Dr. Foerster if it were not for you making these fine and informational videos available, many of us would never have had the pleasure of seeing these treasures. Our deepest Thanks and Respect to you and your Colleagues.
I've been to this site. It was amazing, especially the Lion Gate and the stairs up. And of course, the Hittite wall carvings are very nearby. But that Green Nephrite "altar" has to be the main attraction. I always have wondered how far below the surface that stone goes, and what shape it is beneath.
I worked for a jade cutter in Alaska. Nephrite jade is found in the Kobuk Mountains of Alaska. It is quite different than jadite of the orient. It is very hard about a 7-8.
Aah, you lucky man, and you even got to see the Green Stone. One of the top locations in Turkey I want to visit. When I studied Sanskrit, I took a brief look at Hittite. It was amazing how similar the two languages were in structure. What an unusual place to center an empire.
Brian how old is this site supposed to be dated at. Or anyone that could answer my question would be great thank you. Keep up the great work. I feel like I'm traveling the world following your adventures. Very grateful.
I was wondering about their pushed into the earth flattened-erratically look - my first thought was they were the walls that had fallen evenly outward. Then again the site was probably treated as a quarry in the not too distant past as well...
This is probably a good indication of what a almost leveled destroyed Megalithic Site, with most of the once tall great walls broken apart scattered and buried beneath the ground. A jigsaw puzzle of a different sort I gather.
I am puzzled by 'The Tub' shown at the beginning. Its inlet hole just above the walking surface but its outlet hole 'so far' below surface level ... what was it feeding into so deep? Maybe the current day surface is way higher than when the 'tub' was created?
Those holes are for splitting the Stone to be used elsewhere. They may be old, but that does not mean that they are original. In fact, the whole site looks like someone quarried it and left behind just what you see now.
Hello, my name is Nick Barksdale and I have a large and popular history channel on RU-vid called The Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages. I am always looking for footage that will help me captivate and educate my audience because sure, pictures are great but I find videos to be a better resource. I focus on the Hittites quite a bit and will in the future and I found this by you on the Hittites and I was knocked off my feet by its amazing quality and detail, and I was wondering if you'd allow me to use your footage? I would happily not just attribute you in the video section but also put you in the video credits themselves, thanks for your time and stay well Sincerely ~ NICK
Come on Brian, get the GoPro Hero 7 Black. PLEASE! Hypersmooth will change the video to the next level!!! Reach out to me if you want, I love your work, but the cell phone video makes me carsick to watch it for very long. Linear mode, gopro hero 7 black. Pure win. Thank you for this effort on your part. 👍 This site is incredible. THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Great site and video. Love to go on your tours. The identical blocks with 4 holes, looks like old concrete elements, where the holes was made with the element. That is what we would do today. Concrete turns to limestone/sandstone, when under salt water. Look at the elements used in the walls and think of a modern construction... If we made them 100.000 years ago, our solutions would likely be similar. Also notice how the elements have cracks running from the holes, even between many holes. That is what to expect from metal rebar in the holes expanding because of erosion. The site have since been reused many times, offcause, but try just looking at it as a house we have made, with a concrete base, then wood and windows, top with a roof. Now what would that look like if it has been under salt water for 10.000 years?
73 37: Great comment! The first thing I thought of was concrete and rebar. This style is a unique departure from the use of key slots and metal keys to effectively strap the blocks together. If concrete or cut stone, I see the cracks as a result of catastrophic side loads imposed on the rebar embedded walls.
Wow! This rivals anything you have explored from anywhere. It is more degraded than some sites but the high technology is irrefutable. Thank you so much.
The fact that they could even drill those holes that way is as much of a mystery as WHERE are all of the tools or the TECHNOLOGY they used? Its as if all these things were built and then the TOOLS were hidden or taken somewhere. Not ONE advanced technology or tool has ever been found any where in the world. That is not by Chance!
My thoughts exactly. I'd expect someone someday to find a big hole full of ancient bones and masses of tools and items of ancient tech, all washed into a pile by the deluge. What a find that would be.
Depending on the age of the sites and the general probability of some kind of global cataclysm, I would suspect that any technology would have since rusted away into dust. Only the stone remains. And I think with Lake Titicaca being elevated so high above sea level yet containing freshwater seahorses that we should conclude that a massive upheaval took place that wiped entire civilizations off the map. We are fortunate to have any remains at all; it appears to require a hardness above 8 to withstand the plasma blast that many conjecture caused the cataclysm or was part of it.
I recon the advanced technology they used were tools made from fragments of a meteorite that had such remarkable properties that could cut through the rocks like a knife through butter.
If you will place your hands on the top of the Jade Stone, you will be given a 'vision' of the Cosmos. It is composed of green nephrite, which is related to jade. It's top surface is polished to a mirror-like finish, no doubt from people touching it over hundreds of years. That area is HIGHLY charged with energy and it is amplified by touching the stone there. The drill holes are a way they {{{tuned}} the sound frequency of the stones, to preform a certain task.
I think that you have it wrong on which hole is the intake hole. I get the impression that water was fed into the container from the lower hole. Likely piped in from a spring not far away. Note the slight channel in the ground as you walk up to the rectangular container. That would have been the water course from the outflow
What in the hell did this place look like when it was new and what are all those random drill holes. Brien Forrester is revealing so much. I wish I could travel back in time and see these megalithic sites in all their glory. !
So, can we say this once was a wellness centre? 🤔 😊 With several baths, pools, resting areas, drills, holes (for water) etc.. Well, it's quite plausible to me ... Is there any river or stream or (mountain) spring there, on the spot or in the vicinity? And if not - are there any ancient records of the eventual nearby water sources, perhaps even of thermal nature?
So the civilization that worked these rocks was more advanced than ours. And a cataclysm wiped them out. Most likely they knew it was coming and that is why the underground city of derinkuyu was built. It makes sense to me.
I keep thinking that some of the stone work was done with human powered...peddled like a bicycle type drills and saws. They knew about pulleys and such so it wouldn’t be much of a stretch to use belts and pulleys and sprockets to get fast performing human powered equipment. Most likely anything devised for this purpose would have been fashioned out of wood and leather and fabric...thus gone without a trace. The blades and drills were made of a desirable metal that were found and melted down to create weapons and other devices.
Yes, I don't like the people who go to a site and say, "If these are tool marks, where are the tools?" I think, "Have you ever worked on a building site? We NEVER left our high value tools lying around after we finished a project." if they were of special metals, those materials would inevitablybe kept and used until totally worn, then recycled for other purposes. It's so obvious to anyone who actually works with machinery or tools.
At 7:05 the two joined stones are actually the same stone. Looking at the horizontal striation matching at the joint, one could assume that, because the builders kept the two peices together upon placement, each stone was at the limit of what they could move as far as weight. It must have been very important to the builders to keep as much of the stone in close proximity to the pieces it came from originally. I wonder if orientation of the stone compared to its magnetic disposition was taken into consideration during construction. That would mean that the quarrying of the stone and its future placement were as important as the final product of all stones as a sum of the energy they were concentrating. Energy goes where energy flows...?
I live currently in Turkey, so What you suggest is that Hattusha is much older than the Hittites , correct ? Did you visit Çatalhöyük ? This site shows polygonal stonework.
Perhaps the protuberances are for balancing, like a weight on a tire nowadays? In order to move them. The drill holes may have been for a rigging system, like our modern wall anchors for mounting a mirror, only used to pick up and transport the blocks. Just guessing..... Thx for the video Brien.
I have seen in Cambodia temple of smiling faces a carved picture showing two stones putting on top of each other, and labourers grinding in opposition direction by wooden handles so to make both stones smooth to fit together in a wall afterwords. Afterwards, I saw a current stone workshop in the same vicinity where labourers were using the same technique.
Hi, those holes could be anchored, for example, with iron bars of another layer of stones, due to an earthquake or tsunami. But whether I think that the top layer of stones is disturbed by the high temperature ... what is the stove (2:50) I dare not say, the experts could say soon. Thank you Brien, good job!
It would be cool to take along a small drone, to look at these sites from above, to get an idea of the floor plans. That kind of information might give more insight into their use.
This truly looks beyond ancient. When I see the stone "flooring" pavestones, it appears they were once flush and in a pattern. Now very separated, out of order. The megalithic look almost melted, exploded. Never heard of this site, but looks way older than most.
It sort of looks like the most of the area was paved with stones and that your slabs were a walkway/roadway maybe with hand rails that fit into the holes?
What if a ancient civilization had to build out of big heavy stones to protect them against big dinosaurs. Thanks Brien for your hard and passionate work
If the bath had a block that neatly fitted inside the bath tight fit . Then the holes at base were used to pump air or water into below the stone in centre . It would act as a lifting device or as a floating device . Todays masons still use compressed air through tiny holes on wet flat stones to easily float them around .
According to Pliny, who lived in the first century, diamonds was applied to metal tools to make them cut better, just like today. It's a relatively simple process. The Egyptians were definitely acquainted with diamonds, as well.
Thank you for this. Although I disagree with the conclusions, we're on the same page as to the antiquity of the site. Enjoy the caves, I've been there and they're magnificent.
*1:03. "we can tell they are ancient because of the patina.." Am I spelling this right? I cant find patina or what it means. All I find are copper references..? Help please.
The "knobs" seem to have been used for sound maybe for communication maybe for creating a certain resonance etc. For acoustic levitation possibly I'll make a video about it
nephrite jade deposits can be found in Australia, Brazil, China (Sinkiang), Canada, Russia, Taiwan, Zimbabwe and the United States (Alaska and Wyoming). Nephrite was also formerly found in Poland
The tool marks in the lump of jade are incredible. The whole story is there, I think. They played with fundamental forces, using bronze age implements no less. The failure of their technology alone was cataclysmic.
have you not got a gimble on you're camera to steady the video . as much as its good great in fact , it could be much better with a camera steady , most have a built in gimble in the camera or cell phone which steady's the video
Brien - I really love your videos, but you should talk more to your geologist! Limestone is composed mainly of calcite with a hardness of 3. Metamorphosed limestone is MARBLE and is still composed of calcite with a hardness of 3. The hardness does not change with the metamorphism process.
