@@cgoins1993 No it doesn't indeed as they'd still need actual hard evidence, but they would open a case against him without a doubt, which would mean a lot of trouble for him and if found guilty he'd be back in prison for a long time. Only a complete idiot would confess killing someone, unless they couldn't be prosecuted anymore, like Sammy. That's why he can talk about it. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to talk about it either.
@@-Mohog technically they may already have circumstantial evidence in a locker and they just need a confession, remember the law never rests you can bet that he is still on their list just like his father was and one bad move its over.
After watching Mafia States, i have MUCH more respect for Michael and the way he carries himself. As much as i enjoy Sammy's stories, he's not coming away from this thing looking so good, IMHO. Both men were All-Star Mob guys, but lets be real, Michael could have been a Doctor, a Lawyer, a Politician whatever he wanted to be. Sammy could never be any of those things. Sammy is a life long Street Thug.
Michael is what a Mafioso is in my mind. It could be your neighbour. It could be your uncle. These guys don't stand out. They are gentleman who prima facie are like you and I but they have a deadly streak, and are highly intelligent which sadly, they use for bad rather than good.
Michael was definitely a product of his environment. If he grew up in a house where the dad was a lawyer or doctor he could have easily gone down those paths. Like he's said numerous times, he was in medical school and got involved in the mob strictly to help his dad get out of prison. He is not genetically a bad person, Sammy is. Like you said, he's nothing more than a street thug. Michael rose through the ranks because of intelligence and business acumen. Sammy rose through the ranks by doing the dirty work.
What i find abit cringey is sammy constantly trying to talk down to michael for not being as "street" as him. I'd take it as a compliment. Also belittled michael like he doesnt know about the mafia, when he was born into it when sammy wasnt.
@@michaelfranzese sammy act like that stuff got a statute of limitations. Even in Christ some things you dont share i was saved in prison, i share my testimony. But you cant share everything.
You can tell Michael has done heavy shit and it disturbes him. Anytime anyone mentions the violence of the life around him you can see him cringe and you don't get reactions like that unless you are reliving things from your past you don't want to
Pretty obvious difference between the two. Michael confessed his own involvement but implicated nobody else and went to prison for eight years, much of it in solitary confinement. When he came out he left the criminal life forever. Sammy got caught and informed on all of his friends and associates to get out from under 38+ murders (putting him in the serial killer category), then went into witness protection free as a well protected bird. Not content he went on to more drug dealing and violence, got caught and only then went to prison. Since release he's presumably left crime, if only because he's so old as to make it difficult. He's also out of touch with the life because nobody smart would ever trust him. Definitely not reformed, just presumably inactive. I assume some people in the criminal justice system still keep an eye on him anyway just in case. I'd do honest business with Michael but never with Sammy.
I believe He never killed anyone. He didn't need to and if u watch mafia states sammy perfectly explains why franseze wouldn't need to being his high status and his father. He works in innuendo just like sammy said. Could he have possibly killed someone? Yes there's allways a chance but word spreads in that life and before and after your made everyone knows your buisness and if you put in work its how they elevate people in that life. If nobody knew about anyone putting in work how the hell could u trust anyone?? And you mean to tell me after all these years nobodies talked if michael killed someone? Obviously it would have been an order handed down and another party would know and would have definitely talked by now. If Michael did do it its a very very small chance. Him neither confirming or denying let's him play both bases. Michael is an extremely good communicator and he knows just the right thing to say. I really Michael but this is the unbiased truth I feel if you have any common sense and good amount of knowledge of mobster history.
The dude was basically a celebrity in his day, its not odd at all considering how much work he put in and the ranks he rose to in the Italian Mafia. I would say its his reality through and through and is probably still living in some type of fear to this day, he has every right to be proud that he made it out alive
A man who did what he did out of duty doesn’t brag about it. A man who enjoys the notoriety of being a tough guy talks about everything he did. I think we know who is who here.
It’s obvious Sammy is full of himself, I knew that from his first interview when he was out. He takes pride in being a notorious tough guy. Also it’s obvious he had a big appetite for women and reputation helps in that regard especially a tough guy rep
Yea I think we've all seen enough documentaries etc to know that if ur a made guy, you've had to commit a murder or be part of a murder, doesn't make me respect Michael anymore, his business brain and how he handles himself In general is what I respect
He was a Capo. He rose up through the ranks. He either ordered hits or did a couple himself. It comes with the job. He doesn't have to say anything, and he shouldn't. Why people keep asking him about that just baffles me. When you live that life, you are fully committed to it, and you MUST follow the chain. It is what it is.
It baffles me that Michael is saying yeah I killed tons of peeps but can't say it, it's like at that point just say yes lol they either have evidence or they don't. They aren't asking him to recount the tale and tell who he killed, just if he killed
@@TonyDanza4Lyfe He doesn't want to say yes because Sammy will try to pry more information out of him. He also has people that look up to him and he doesn't want people looking at him as a murderer or asking him about it. He answers the question the best way possible.
Why would you admit it when there's no statute of limitations on murder, not to mention if you look at his Wikipedia he was a suspect in a murder case in 78 as a driver, him saying yes to murdering people is not only bad for his image but is legally retarded.
@@rollingthunder8223 it's glaringly obvious when you watch and listen to them talk. Sammy behaves like a testosterone fuelled teenage street thug, who's trying to prove something, and is delusional and in total denial, to the point that he still believes he's a "true cosa nostra." He has a rabid case of little man syndrome/Napoleon complex. He shoots first, asks questions later. Whereas Michael behaves like a calm older man, who regrets the mistakes of his past, and feels he has absolutely nothing to prove. He gives the impression that violence was always a last resort for him. I know which one of them I'd rather have dealt with back in the 1980's.
@@rollingthunder8223 did you just listen too sammy people know, agents know, bosses know, so it's not just you tube. There's no proof at all he's killed a kid or put anyone in jail. That's the facts. I'm sure people would say these days if he did anything as Ill moral as what Sammy did
Dudes answer is a long form version of yes that puts MORE of a spotlight on him. Idk if he was gonna be in jail he'd already be there. They aren't linking him to 30-40 year old mafia murders. It's pointless and a waste of time and money
I don't think Michael killed anyone. Not by his own hands. Sammy was trying to make a point. Killing someone is normally a prerequisite to becoming a made man. You don't become a made man without your deeds being taken into account. So Michael obviously is being accused of being made without killing anyone. There is a reason this subject gets brought up. It's also unlikely Michael killed anyone personally as a Capo as well. Generally the administration ( bosses, capo) delegate murder to lower ranking members. Michael is being accused of never earning the right to be made but was made because of respect to his father.
@@TonyDanza4Lyfe He's just not admitting to murders with no immunity and he's not proud of what he did. We know you would love to blab to the whole world that you're a murderer but he's not that kind of guy.
Admitting to murdering someone won’t result in an indictment. Especially if he doesn’t give a name. There has to be a actual evidence of a murder for someone to be charged with a crime. Simply answering the question with a “yes, but I won’t elaborate because I don’t want to be charged” would not result in a charge
@@cgoins1993 but why open yourself up to being investigated? Lol we are so entrenched in this social media era that ppl believe that if its not said/shown on social media than it didnt happen
Yeah, he knows what he's doing. There's no statute of limitations on murder and Mike ain't going back to jail. Honestly, to me I don't really give a shit... if he didn't murder anyone I would even admire him more so.
@@cgoins1993 exactly, which is why I don't understand why he can't man up and just say yes instead of some long winded blowhard response that is him saying yes to the question without using the exact words. Nobody is asking for names and details, just if he did it. He's annoying in that way, and btw nobody just joins the mafia like he claims he did. He had to have been preparing and considering it for years. No way he woke up one day and was like fuck this dorm time to kill and Rob other Italians. Like get real that's not how humans operate
Mr Franzese, I admire the way you handle yourself. You are reserved, you listen when someone else speaks, you talk without using inappropriate language. I enjoy watching your podcasts. Mr Gravano is something of a loose cannon. I get it, he’s trying to portray an image. I find a lot of what he says is embellished. That’s who he is. He believes in his truth. You may have both been made guys, but you two are very different. Again, I admire who you have become in life.
Portraying an image? I can agree with what was said about Michael. Very well spoken. But they both lived different lives. Sammy isn't portraying anyone. That's who he is. It's how he lived growing up, to being in gangs then the mafia.
Good lord people stop asking him this question. He was in the mafia he did what he had to do at the time. Leave the man alone he's obviously uncomfortable talking about it look at his face. Now that he's saved its probably his biggest shame in life. No one would want to talk about it.
Exactly! The answer is evident so why bother him with that? Mr. Franzese can talk about so many more things than that with us and people are still fascinated with murder
Besides, he has no immunity and there’s no statute of limitations for murder. He can’t answer the question if the answer is yes. The fact he doesn’t say “no” pretty much tells you he has but doesn’t want to incriminate himself.
Agree, this question bugs me. It is always asked. He was a made guy in the mafia, of course he killed at least 1 person. He's not that guy now, move on......
Too bad for the guys he shot. If only they could feel shame and appear on millions of screens lol fuck Michael dude is a master BS artist. It's so clear with how he talks how full of shit he is. I don't mean full of shit as in he didn't do stuff, I mean full of shit in that he's this great intellectual who dropped out of med school to help his dad. Ask yourself: does someone with that much potential just give it up instantly to go and kill people? No they would rightfully say fuck that.
On those things that the statute of limitations are not up, one should never speak of those things. You know who you are and what you've done. To the shrewed everything is shrewed. In this situation even if Michael admitted to wacking someone most likely it will not be good enough for the haters, after that they will say who was it. Requesting additional details. It will never be enough they are going to want more and more. Michael is redeeming the time and he doesn't need to confess his sins to the whole city to do it. Great response Michael. If God is for you who can be against you.
Sammy what does it matter. Michael was obviously a good choice and you snitched on everyone so you were a bad choice. What is your argument about Michael????
I think Michael won the whole discussion. If there’s a winner here. Sammy is a different type of character, and his mind is in a different place. I still find Sammy fascinating, and I enjoy following this channel. I think he’s one of the great storytellers of our time. I’m grateful for what Sammy has contributed to the discussion, and entire documentation of mob history, as we know it. Very historical stuff.
Michael is current and real, his past is exactly that! Whatever he did or didn’t do, made him the man he is today! He doesn’t need to brag and make his ego big! Sammy isn’t current and only has his past to talk about. Respect to Michael Franzese for the man he has become and for the people he helps day in day out 👍👏👍
Eh. I disagree. The past is easier to empirically verify, and Sammy had more valid points. Mr. Franzese is basically pleading the fifth all interview, instead of talking about the present. I don’t think he killed anybody, and it’s more Likely he was responsible for more names. Either he has a selfish reputation to maintain in the present, or a utilitarian reputation to maintain. Maybe both. We’ll never know.
@@AllNikoNoLai As Michael consistently states, he hasn’t got immunity, so “pleading the fifth” in an interview that could be watched by anyone, is Michael protecting himself and his family, you can’t verify the past if you have no facts, no witnesses or no admissions! Sammy has been proved on many occasions he likes to brag about his past, although again, no one can prove otherwise. There’s much more to worry today than an answered question from years ago! 👍
Dazza Griffiths basically my complaint is not the Fact that pleading the fifth isn’t justified. Who cares if it is or isn’t. It’s just a predictably clickbait interview because the question will never be answered no many how many times the question is asked or by whom, lmao.
Why is Sammy obsessed with you getting made? What does he care? Was it nepotism and he resents people who got made because they grew up in families with made men? I think it is. One of the biggest bosses who inducted family was Carlo Gambino. Two of his sons, nephews, Big Paul, other cousins and he even brought cousins from Sicily (Zips) named Gambino to run the Cherry Hill gang and deal drugs. Colombo did it, Junior did it, Bonannos did it. Bill Bonanno was the epitome of nepotism and the undeserved button plus consigliere status for his father. Sammy is jealous and resents people who didn’t have to do what he did to earn their button. He is also jealous of your success on social media. He wants to move in to your territory as the top ex-mafiosi on RU-vid! It is childish of Sammy but it’s all he knows; move someone out and take over their business.
Sammy takes pride in being a murderer and shames Michael that he might not be. Further, Sammy knows Michael killed at least one person, but continues to twist the knife trying to make Michael feel ashamed that Michael can't discuss it and that people might think he never killed anyone. You have to be pretty f***ing twisted to be a murderer and Sammy is simply demonstrating his twisted mind.
He’s just mad that most people see him as a rat. Especially now that he has a bigger audiance. And not even in a insulting way. It’s just according to their rules of the “streets”, as they might call it.
i think the point sammy is trying to make that michael is "just" a earner while he put in the work. Like a infantry soldier is put to higher regard as someone who works behind the lines.
Michael carries himself with dignity and as a man. He doesnt need to prove anything and he shows it. Sammy is all about proving he was a tough guy. Thats it.
Exactly. He has like a childlike need to prove everyone how tough and capable he was and how big he was in that life and sort of brag about what he did. Michael doesn't seem to have same kind of a need. At least not nearly as much as Sammy does.
Sammy is a short guy, thats why. He’s like 5’4, guys like that always need to prove how tough they are because they dont look tough at all, but they dont realize its off-putting and tiring for the people around them.
Sammy is carrying around a lot of bitterness in his life. He was somebody at one time, but now all he has is his past. Michael has a better life now than he had then.
Right. That's why Gravano attacks & insults Franzese all the time. Most recent he is fixated on Michael being adopted. While Franzese never insults or uses bad language. Their difference in IQ & social skills is remarkable.
This is extremely interesting! I'm nervous just watching this clip on my phone. I can feel the grit, tension, realism and respect coming from this sit down. This is something Hollywood wishes they could replicate.
Im the 1st like here....today. Thats right Michael.....Sammy doesnt know what he did or didnt do!Just like Ive said on many of some of these lives I go on.....
Lmaoo exactly if I was mike I wouldn’t tell sammy if I did anyway ! N again I like sammy a lot but he doesn’t know everything especially what happens in another family , he may have heard rumors but again that’s doesn’t mean he knew what you know
For all this ideal about omertà, and staying quiet, Sammy talks a lot about what guys on the street say and know about who did what. If you all stayed quiet nobody would know anything! This is why you all went down! They all spent more time gossiping than they did running their business.
@@a.a.3699 Exactly the talk a lot Mafia I can understand the guys from the 40s and 50s and 60s but by the late 70s and 80s you should have known what was up
As a guy born and raised in south Brooklyn, you should leave the past in the past, what is done is done. Show you have really changed and move on with your life.
Sammy uses Donny Brasco/Joe Pistone as an example of what can happen when someone isn't vetted. Trouble is, he was never made by the Bonnano family. He was an associate and was proposed but he was never made like Michael Franzese was.
But thing is who is asking Sammy for his approval ? I just don’t get why he responded for Michael he does this a lot he gives explanations as if he was there with Michael through it all. Like he needs to dominate the conversation and take over. ITS MICHAELS STORY not yours Sammy. The self entitlement on this guy
yeah its really weird, like when he was talking about the gas business he was talking about it as if he knew more about it than michael even if he has admitted himself to never being part of that. i would be so infuriated in that situation if i was michael.
Michael saved that series! If it wasnt for him i would be upset that i paid $40 to watch that. Sammy on his own tells great stories and makes great content but he treated this entire thing like a big d!ck contest between him and michael. There were times were he seemed like he would just say anything to disagree with michael and we didnt get good material from him. Michael didnt treat it like competition and made for great content.
I find it hard 2 swallow that Sammy supposedly regrets the actions and crimes based on the salient facts of his criminal career. Salient facts that, now and for the past 30 years, he's generated his (scantily deserved) daily bread 🍞 from. Based upon his proclaimed (and in my opinion pontificated) violent crimes. He has no skills; no portfolio. Only a trumped up legend. Every single SQUAKING UTTERANCE from Sammy should be held in contempt!
Definitely agree with MJF that stuff doesn't need to be talked about and repeated. But Sammy did make a good point about the Donnie Brasco fiasco- your boss and the people who make the decision to make you should know your work
@@tr5947 Indeed and those guys were some of the toughest and well respected old school gangsters, which also tells something. Also likely very smart guys, as none of them got killed violently in that life and one is still alive and still in the mob as well. Although got recently arrested as we know, so probably ends up in prison for the rest of his life. So not THAT smart you could say, but still.
I'd absolutely love to hear Michael weigh in on the life north of the border with the families in Toronto and Hamilton, lots of action up here right now and I suspect he'd have some good insight
@@shezad-three60digital25 : they both could have gone to trial and taken their chances. They didn’t have Sammy on tape talking about killing people. Sammy flipped purely to save himself. He took down a lot more people than Gotti and pretty much destroyed his whole family. Some Cosa Nosta.
I wish people would stop asking this question. I personally don't care to know the answer, but that's just me. I am more interested in the non-violent aspects of mob life and watching the mob movie reviews. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas, Michael. All the best to you.
Asking Michael to make a hit would be like asking a Rocket Scientist to work at the McDonald’s drive through, his talents were better used to make $$$$$ for the family.
Not how it works but your point is correct, in that life there are rituals that date back to the old country, murder is a part of it everyone has to be willing to kill for the family period
Michael, the best thing you can do is partner up with Sammy, and sell the Mafia States of America video in full on each of your individual websites for $3.99. Whatever each of you clear from sales belongs to you, don’t kick anything back to Patrick other than a note that says “don’t get involved with gangsters.”
I do believe that Michael has taken a life. If not, then there would be no comebacks, legal or otherwise, from just saying 'no'. The only repercussions would be from saying 'yes', which he will not do. 'Tis as clear as the summer sun. (Henry V - Wm. Shakespeare)
Mike never got pinched for murder and there's no limitations on something like that. I don't know why people keep asking him this because he's too smart to go back to jail.
Agree. I do find it interesting that he won't say he didn't. That's usually a tell that he did. Doesn't matter to me either way, especially considering he was in the mod so you almost expect that he has killed at some point.
Bruh it ain't like Michael is gonna confess to murder lmfaoo he got caught for the gas thing not killing people, he doesn't get a pass to say things like that unlike Sammy.. And Michael was a capo, which means he had to work his way up.. And u had to do whatever the bosses ordered you to do or u were the one being taken out, u do the math
Excellent interview Michael. I have to say I get tired of people asking you this question. It is no one's business. It is between you and God and since you are saved, even if you did, it's under the blood of Jesus and forgiven. Sammy brags about murder. There is a tremendous difference there.
MSOA was absolutely fantastic! An intriguing sit down! I watch both of these men’s podcasts, but this was a whole other level!! I learned a lot! As always, Michael is a man’s man, a class act! I have so much respect for him! Michael is direct, yet intellectually classy in his conduct! I am in leadership role and Michael’s knowledge can teach us all so much ~ not just the mafia “ stuff” alone! If you watch Michael, he also knows when to concede in a stand up way!! You sir, are intelligent, yet know when to let the other win when it is of benefit to you as well! This is an amazing skill in negotiations! Best channel on RU-vid right here!!! Cheers! 🤍🙏🏻🥰💫🤍🙏🏻
I hope & pray Michael, whatever you may have done, that down the road, many decades from now, that God grants you eternal peace and happiness in Heaven. May God Bless you & your family.
Yes because they are the Italian mafia and nowhere near as dangerous as the Sinaloa Cartel for example. Cartel members can openly threaten with death because they are extremely fucking dangerous and don't take shit from anyone including police, judges. DAs, criminal defense lawyers and even politicians at times. They have the CIA on payroll and yes they do kill them if they have too but the news will never cover that and they don't. Fucking with a cartel will have multiple criminal groups come after you including the Italian mafia. Cartels are way above and beyond dangerous than any Italian mafia group and the mob is dependent on cartels completely. You think it's hard for them to kill even a famous politician? LOL So many Mexican cartel members are very very poor including their family. They will tell one of their poor members to do the killing and they will take care of their family for life which they do deliver on the promise. If they refuse, they tell them that they will kill them and also come after their family for not doing the killing. So think about it, you think Donald Trump is really safe? lol he is not.... Sounds far fetched? Fine.... You can believe what you want... Just remember that Trump's name is being used for a casino because we can fucking touch him whether the secret service likes it or not. lol Who the Fuck is Pierce Cohalan to me? Who the fuck is Gregg Hayim to me? They are fucking less than ants to me... And mark my fucking words - THEY WILL FUCKING DIE A HORRIBLE FUCKING DEATH FOR WHAT THEY DID TO ME! Okay? Better you fuck off unless you want your family dead too. Don't get involved in beef that has nothing to do with you unless you want to die as well. If I can acquire Trump brand name for a casino, what makes you believe that I can't remove the Cohalan name off the courthouse and have it re-named to my last name: Chaudry ? lol fuck you.... hahahah I told you Gregg Hayim would go broke right.... multiple stores gone... Only two more to go until he will probably kill himself.
Michael don't talk about anything related to if you murdered or not, remember you're the only one who will be hurt and it will just be enjoyment for them. All that matters is that you walk now with Jesus. God Bless you and your family and have a Merry Christmas.
Maybe you did kill someone and maybe you didn't Michael. Someone asks you if you killed someone no matter who you are OR who they may be that's an enormous red flag ... Especially if you're not or never had been involved in and criminal activity regardless of whether or not there was violence. Nobody needs that anxiety in their life 😨
@@megajonnyboii From what I understand another part of the reason for a La Cosa Nostra syndicate/family requiring that is sp just case a made member goes mentally haywire they can also be tied to whatever murder they committed or help commit ?
@@hirumbiffidum9145 No, they will just kill the person who was going haywire and being suspicious. The point is to have no leads at all. They take the Oath of Omerta that promises silence no matter what act they commit.
@@megajonnyboii Well yeah that too, that may very well be why Willie Moretti was murdered (the actual guy credited with threatening Frank Sinatra's bandleader). On national television he said "you mean do I carry a membership card that days Mafia on it ?). Everyone broke laughing. That might have been the icing on the cake of a lot of things done and said like that and they weren't laughing, couldn't take it anymore, then finally killed him to prevent him from getting worse ?
@@hirumbiffidum9145 Well technically there is no Mafia, and if you're in the mob and you bring up anything of a Mafia, then yes you will die. Especially on national television. Thats breaking the Oath. They live under the Oath of Omerta look it up
Its simple...If Michael didn't kill someone...he would have straight up said he didn't...end of story...btw...is that a person or maniquen over Sammy right shoulder? Lol
Michael when you brought the bragging around 3:00 it struck a chord with sammy , because thats 100% true you never speak of these things , you just drive by the location and say right here lol
I have two thoughts... 1. I wasn't in the Mafia, but I grew up with guys who were. I have no doubt that a sufficiently skilled earner wouldn't be wasted on street level stuff. Whether that applies to Michael, I have no idea. 2. He's entering a "No Contest" plea. Leave it alone already.
Whos the "they" Sammy keeps talking about? Jon Alite or some guys on the internet? And why does their word mean more than Michaels? How do "they" know everything else Sammy doesn't? Lol I don't really understand Sammy's goal here..."if you did, more power to you, if you didn't, you got in under false pretenses." Michael said what he said, put the pieces together.
To be honest, I watch yours and Sammy's RU-vid content. I tune in because I love listening to stories about the Mob. But I have to say that between the two of you. I like your stories better.
That's your old life Michael, what you doing know is amazing, I don't care if or you did killed, that's your old life, you making loads of people happy know God bless you and your family
Michael without glorifying your past, I can say that the way how you carry yourself how educated you are after all that shit that happened to you, is just amazing and one of a kind! Love from Hungary🤝
Listen mike had too make his bones 🦴 period weather he pulled trigger or not ! He had too put work in ! Colombo family was the roughest family hands down
Commenting before watching the video, im just gunna guess already Michael gives a typical republican style response and skirts around the question for 10 minutes never actually answering the question, cuz of course who the hell is gunna say they killed someone. I know damn well what these people were up to, and it aint pretty either.
Have a lot of respect for Michael he's done some crazy stuff and he respects the gravity of what he's done enough to leave it unsaid which I think is best
I for one don't care if you killed someone. It sounds cold. But I can't honestly judge you that way. Can't judge anyone. That's God's job. I see you as a Christian. Your a wise man and listening to you could only lead to success God bless Michael
Sammy is so concerned about what others think. Why does he care if Michael murdered someone so much? As far as I'm concerned Michael lived the ultimate mafia life and lived to tell about it. Who's better than Mikey Franzese?
