Haymaker is NOT the Best Retro Pokemon TCG Deck 

I mean Pooka can't, since he's a TPCI employee, so at least having one last bastion of the old days being able to talk about the TCG, even if it's not always new sets, decks, and strategies. Is always a good thing in my book

He’s the only person I want to talk about Pokémon TCG. Don’t respect none of the new guys 😂😂😂

It is simple. The channel started of as a Pokemon TCG channel then it expanded to pokemon content. Afterwards, it expanded to Nintendo content then to any content that JWittz wants. JWittz talking about the Pokemon TCG is just him going back to his roots.

Yup

jwittz should do a video on temtem xD

Before that, there was the Yu-gi-oh GX episode where Chazz had to build a new deck out of literal throwaway cards including the seemingly useless Ojamas.

​@@Compucles and before that he had to hunt down cards in the arctic, Chazz had a very interesting character development.

Bill Cipher VRAINS has my recommendations.

@@maybornefloweri like 5ds more but not the dub

@Bill Cipher The new upcoming YGO series looks even more childish than the rest of them and looks like a kids anime that advertises toys and games (which is the essence of the YGO animes, but even more childish and generic-looking). Still, no matter how weird or childish they looked, every YGO series has some dark moments and plots. GX had electric that eventually led to heart problems, Judai reluctantly sacrificing his friends, Edo became the anti-hero he is because his father was murdered over a powerful card, etc. 5D's has the main character living in the slumbs where he spent a good portion of his life collecting junk to build his stuff. The Dark Signers were all killed before becoming Dark Signers and we see most of their deaths (death by explosion, starvation, falling from buildings, car accident, hanging, a Duel of Darkness, and the one we don't see was later revealed to be a cult sacrifice). A post-apocalyptic future where giant machines destroyed humanity, with only four old men as survivors. ZEXAL had genocide, character deaths, one of those deaths being due to the lack of oxygen. ARC-V is mostly about a interdimensional war. Also, Sergey. I never watched VRAINS, but it also looks edgier than most other series from the outside. The Yu-Gi-Oh! manga is still the darkest YGO medium ever.

90’s TCG deck names really where the best.

Foxokon Fan nicknames are always a riot. Like Sneaky Pebbles

TheHeroOfTomorrow What was the basis behind that Deck?

@@megasean3000 I'm guessing it was using wigglytuff's attack (10x number of Pokemon on your side, your bench would be full) then chancey and alakazam. Use alakazam's ability to put damage on Chansey and then use healing items and pokecenter's to dump massive amounts of damage down the drain.)

@@megasean3000 What N Colvin said. Do The Wave was actually so powerful it got Wigglytuff banned from some tournaments.

Honestly, as someone who dabbled in Competitive Mons on Smogon, its not surprising Rain can be oppressive even in the TCG

I played rain dance.dek at Saturday morning pokemon league against the scrubs. Then wiggly for afternoon tourney. Good times earning those packs

I had a deck that relied on Chansey, Dragonite, and Dodrio (for free swapping), and either Wigglytuff or Exeggutor for massive damage (60 or pseudo unlimited coin flips).

Rain Dance actually performed poorly against Haymaker. The main issue was its reliance on a stage 2 and good energy draws, even with Breeder. Whereas Haymaker had quick basics with cheap, powerful attacks, plus Electabuzz which was specifically included to counter Rain Dance. Also, Super Energy Removal absolutely screws over a Rain Dance deck by forcing them to deep draw for more energy. You have to be very careful when playing Rain Dance, the handful of times I've used it in the GBC game I've found it extremely prone to decking out.

@@VestedUTuber I ran Raindance (on accident, didn't even know the meta before playing!) and I decked out a handful of times until I learned the deck. I also didn't use Breeder for some reason but still worked out fine

chuggaaconroy didn’t expect to see you here. Excited for your next let’s play!

Chugga, I love you, but why would you throw away innocent Pokemon *loads haymaker with malicious intent*

mr mime in front

Mitsuteru Abe Pidgey evolutions kills me. Mine easy.. pidgeot is the strongest original card TCG... using whirlwind on Pokémons that was set up by opponents to basically lock them into using basic cards is hilarious. Pair it with energy removals, your opponent is hopeless.

So Lickitung is good, and Gastly is good. Gastly has lick too, so maybe licking your opponent is the best way to win a fight. I should learn Tongue-Fu.

Peter Parker: "I'm going to throw sum d̶i̶r̶t̶ sand in your eyes"

"Haymaker is not the best deck" "Rain Dance?" "No" "Wigglytuff?" "No" "....Stall Ala/Chansey...?" "Lickitung" "Lickitung?!"

Squints and cleans glasses, "that's an interesting nickname for blastoise...have I seen you somewhere before, pal?"

@@iBenjamin1000 Perhaps perhaps maybe maybe

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AxxL oh no, it’s you.

@@AxxLAfriku What?

Same for me, i stopped playing the physical TCG back in like 2003 but i still play the GameBoy Color TCG game and oh man, whenever i see a Chansey or a Lickitung, i know im in for a loooooong game.

I remember beating the fighting gym leader with a cat punch meowth, the guy didnt have any energy cards and I had my double colorless in the first turn, so I wiped his pokemon and winned the battle

There is actually a Japanese sequel to the gbc game that got a fan translation a while back, and it is so much more fun it's unbelievable. I really recommend that people check it out.

@@rustad183 too much of a hassle to even play tho

I played again last week, and I created a deck that ran through every deck easily.. I win so easily it got boring as it became unbeatable and can run through other decks fast.. only time I get a slow game is bad draws but still even then the cycle mechanic I put in I usually draw 10-15 cards ahead.

Agreed

Same. I've been watching Jwittz since his Prof-It series and I really miss his Pokemon TCG content.

Never doubt the tounge

The one time Lickitung isn’t awful (I hate the thing)

Good job bro

If u remember he started this entire channel talking about TCG! Glad to see him go back to the videos that made me subscribe during the Lv. X era

Preme Jon Jwittz helped me get into the game!

Its so crazy to think one of the most powerful Poke Powers ever didnt create an actual good deck in its life time. Just by the sheer existance of Electabuzz, Rain dance was just doomed.

Base-fossil rules

Luckily the cost to build a completely new standard ready deck from scratch has gone down a lot recently. limitlesstcg.com/decks/?list=3498 This deck that just won the Sao Paulo regionals would only cost $91 to build entirely from scratch.

I mean, retro pokemon tcg decks in general were fairly cheap. most of the prominent cards in haymaker are just uncommons and mr. mimes and alakazams weren't too hard to get either. Most of the expensive stuff was in regard to collecting back then ironically with the infamously valuable charizard card actually being one of the worst stage 2 evolutions at the time among several other examples of highly valuable cards being rather weak but highly sought out for collectable purposes.

@@jakegearhart ...or you can just build up your collection in the online game for free.

@@Compucles You can't really build competitive decks online for free. You need code cards as currency to get good stuff.

@@jakegearhart May I introduce you to my boy MaxMoeFoe

Some of my friends got back into pokemon tcg around 2012-2013 and this deck was still really strong.

shaden489 YGO player: “Mtg ripped off yugioh”

@@gigawarman12 lol haven't had a yugioh player tell me that yet but I'm still young and playing mtg so it could still happen

​@@gigawarman12 I'm a Yugioh player, and I always believed that the term milling came from MTG's Millstone?

@@RyanAtlus That is the reference, yes.

@@DerVasto on the rise lmao that deck came out and was tier 1, 5 years ago

Saint Elaine okay

Isn't that called Legacy?

@@Rankurusu777 from my understanding the official Pokemong TCG legacy only goes back to Black n white? someone correct me. But im old af and i would love support for Base to Neo maybe lol

@@ickyy I don't think there are any leagues that play legacy or unlimited. legacy is for the pokemon trading card game online and is from the first heart gold soul silver set to the last black and white and unlimited is a format where you can use any card ever made. there isn't an official format that only uses the older cards.

Unlimited is broken... by "porydonk"

Mom is no joke. One just topped 8 www.thegamer.com/mom-tags-along-pokemon-tcg-tournament-top-8/

Pidgeot is the best answer against me mime.

It'd be interesting to see a more developed meta for retro Pokemon TCG. You might end up with that three way power balance of stall being effective against aggressive decks, but faltering against status decks, and status decks of course folding before aggressive decks. And maybe that wouldn't end up happening, there's of course healing options, ability to recover HP all over the place, and even in the best version the ability to still take prize cards. But part of me is curious

@@maskofice9432 Given enough time in a developing meta the rock paper scissors always falls apart as the top decks develop ways to check their own counters or they disappear entirely. Look at something like MTG Legacy and Pauper (and other 'old' formats) and you'll see there is a strange lack of "true" archetypes. Combo decks take on elements of control or aggro, control decks take on elements of stax or tempo and win off locks or combos, and the aggro decks either become tempo, stax, or combo themed themselves. A developed metagame always looks like this where the top decks have few actual bad matchups, because they have evolved to resist the matchups they should be weak against by incorporating elements of other strategies into their own just for that reason. Rock Paper Scissors matchups are just the awkward teenage years.

@@samuelhain2160 Ah, good to know

I recently collected the Harry Potter TCG (only 5 sets, low demand,) and was looking into decks. While creatures are the easiest way to go, I was surprised by how many other options there were. There's a mono-quidditch deck that works by playing the really hard to win matches and then playing a full set of the two cards that just win the match. I hope I get to actually play it someday

Sword and shield may do it. They are slowly adding back all the left out pokemon. It's only 200 for now, but hopefully soon we can get the other 200.

@@Speedrunner0218 my comment might not have been clear, but I don't care about the other Pokémon

Remember that Pokemon TCG started off life as a Wizards of the Coast game in America. That meant a lot of Magic players got in early to what was obviously going to be WoTC's next big thing (until Nintendo yanked the license and deliberately upstatted/changed the cards to make the old cards mostly useless, LOL) and terminology easily and rapidly passed from one game to the other.

But it is just talking about the old cards

What