@@harjotuppal6787 LOL yes, Team B was superior. Everyone thought so. This is why everyone got upset but also happy for Team A because they got to debut. Everyone was impressed by Hanbin's leadership skills, the group's amazing talent in dancing and rapping/vocals. Their Climax performance is the proof of that. Team A only won because the mass felt bad for them because it looked like YG favored Team B. Well just look at it now, iKON got to be a lot more popular and mainstream than Winner but sadly Hanbin got terminated. Just sad...
So underrated, these boys😦. I mean they can dance, sing, rap, name it and they can. iKON is literally iconic, they have overflowing talents. They deserve soooo muuuuch more ❤
both groups are exceptionaly talented and i am quiet glad winner debuted first with two amazing songs empty and color ring wich shows lots of progress wihin training with each other and for team b i am surely expecting something amazing aswell things take time so be patient both will make it as top idol groups just remeber.... THEY ARE FROM THE YG FAMILY !!!
Yeah according to the Team B/WINNER update/news accounts YG had officially stated that Team B was one of the four teams that would debut this year or so. I dunno.
TheAnimationers oh gosh if thats true, you just made my entire day. team b is seriouslythe best..i wonder what name they'll go by though once they debut.
***** Chris Hwang Alana Le i heard it is 'KIN6S' something like this i dnt sure either want to call them with the real team's name soon and soon can't wait no more Y___Y i call them team b for such a looooong time till get used to it now lol
There seems to be a misunderstanding.... These guys are not just a dance crew who dance for perormances. In case you are not very familiar with the concept of this show, it was a pre-debut competition between two teams and the majority of the choreo's in this video were done as COVERS as part of their training process... They weren't just stealing the choreographies and claiming it as there own. For those of you saying you're sooo "dissapointed" in B.I. for stealing choreo, you need to stop assuming things. Yes, I totally understand that the producers of this show should have done a way better job of adding credits to these choreo's before airing the episodes, but that's not B.I.'s fault and he NEVER claimed to have choreographed all the dances. He just taught them to his members.
YGE should have taken measures to manage, credit or even pay all the choreographers. I don't think Hanbin ever stated anywhere that he did the choreography himself, so all of you keyboard-warrior-cum-haters trash talking these kids about being copycats should just STOP and direct your accusations to YGE, and if you must know THIS SHOW WAS NOT A DANCE SHOW but a reality series to debut YG's next gen idols.
I honestly don't get why people are making a big deal out of the choreography.Yg never asked them to choreograph their own dances.And they never said they were their dances.Hanbin only picks the dances and teaches them and when he DOES make a dance he says so.Don't just assume stuff and get dissapointed.And also team b wasn't trying to make them seem like their own dances.They can't control when the credits for the dances are shown.And even if they didn't make their own dances the whole time, they did in the final battle and that's honestly the part that mattered.And theyre still amazing dancers so don't hate on the them.
For me, that was love at first sight. The harder they dance, the harder I fall ! Then, we learn to know a part of their personality, and ok I was so done of myself, totally fangirling in front of my screen Since the first episode of WIN, I support them soooooo hard and I'm sooooo grateful they debut :'D
No it's not their own choreography and yes they gave credit.. In case y'all didn't notice its on the bottom left corner before every performance. They put the song name, artist, and original choreographers there, and if you read it, it clearly says "jabbawokeez and mos wanted crew"
i really thought they deserved to win but i wanted team a to win more because i felt so sorry for them T-T i mean they were older, they lost almost all of the face offs and they have some members that have been trainees for a long time. but in all fairness i think that team b was more talented
i think its YG ways to train B.I...he wants to know how determine B.I nis... and YG already said there is no one can compete B.I in leadership...YG knows better...thats what I think since I am YG STAN since 2010
2020 and I still watch this over and over like it’s my first seeing this at my 1000 times🤣🤣 ikon is 🔥🔥🔥 and I need BI back to the team... I miss him so much!!!! And I know my boys miss him as well 😔😔
at 1:52 till this day Junhoe's footwork still amazes me. Too bad I couldn't get a perfect view of Donghyuk but I'm pretty sure he was also exactly like Junhoe because he was the best footwork among all the members. I LOVE that Team B's last stage was represented with real fire because it carried on to their new name and the symbol of ikon. FIRE!!!
This is why Gd really loves team B...he also adore B.I. as a leader...proud Mentor...they got thier swag to Gd....💪💪💪first group in YG that best in dancing...
0:10 (Street Kingdom's Choreography), 1:13 (Elektrolytes's Choreography), 1:23, (Johnny Erasme's Choreography )1:57 (Jabbawockeez's Choreography), 2:35 (Johnny Erasme's Choreography), 3:27 (Jabbawockeez's Choreography), 3:55 (Mos Wanted Crew's Choreography) 4:45 (Brian Puspos's Choreography ), 5:37, 6:17 & 7:14 (I Am Me Crew's Choreography), 8:57 (Elektrolytes's Choreography). Other than that their own choreography (Maybe not). They still use the dances choreograph by peoples/crew I mention above on MIX&MATCH.
***** Yes, "he never said that it`s his choreo". And he didn't even gave the choreographers credits until Johnny Erasme (JBlaze) responds to Team B "Stealing" his choreography. JBlaze was not the only one gets angry about Team B using their choreography without permission, IAmMe & Brian Puspos also said they should ask for their permission instead of put their unseen names in the corner. WIN only gave credits them credits after JBlaze comments. I already said this on other video, -> The judges and viewers keeps on compliment them for their "choreography" without knowing who the original choreographers are. Seunghoon did his own choreography since the first episodes, He should get more credit for what he does.
***** He does claim that he choreographs a lot of the dances on mix and match, which I don't think is a good thing to say when people figure out you're stealing choreography.
***** Don't be disappointed. YG knew. The trainees studied professional choreographer's routines as part of their training/practice. The problem was that YG/Mnet allowed Team B to use the choreo on the show but no one credited the choreographers until there'd already been an uproar about it and in M&M the credits were given in Korean, which most I-fans and the choreographers themselves don't speak, and sometimes they flashed by so quickly that they were easy to miss. That's not the boys' fault, though, so it really isn't fair to call them copycats when they never claimed the routines were theirs. Lots of crews learn other choreographers' routines to display and hone their abilities. To actually be able to skilfully replicate the routines just shows how talented they are, plus B.I mixes in some of his own original moves so he does deserve some credit.
they should have given the original choreographers the credit, I always thought some professional dancers were making the choreos for them, but finding out they just took them with no permission is a little dissapointing.
thank you so much for this compilation.. it showcase the real talent of my babies.. I love them so much and I miss them... to others that will view this video this is for the appreciation of their talent so please stop talking about stealing those moves.. if you got nothing nice to say just don't say it.. please..
I am not even kidding but I watched this same video from morning till night and still I am not satisfied yet! All six have to debut and my life will be partially complete until the day I get to meet them. AHAHAHAHA
they don't 'copy' the dances... its a dance cover, like a lot of dancers on youtube too its just that the people who edit the show together didnt give credit & said who choreographed it... but they learnt their lesson cause they put credit in for mix & match
It's technically not a cover if you broadcast the thing and don't give proper credits. They can't be covers also because they are being used in a competition. It would have been okay if just they had credited the real choreographers. That's a pity, but I say we should stop both defending and accusing Team B.
VeroniqueParks If that the case then what can you say about American Idol? X Factor? before the singers sing their song for audition the songs and artist arent mentioned..
Bonita Nacua well, everybody knows the contestants didn't make the song they are going to sing if not specified, but they usually ask "what are you going to sing?" so, yes, they always mention at least the title of the song. Since you can't name choreographies, the right way to give proper credits would be to mention the choreographers.
VeroniqueParks not always.. and as per thatxx they did give credits.. and they never said that its their own choreo.. they are just showcasing their dancing talent
To this day I still stand strong in what I believed in. Team A definitely had the better vocals. No doubt about that. But that's about it. Team B on the other hand! They had everything else. Stage presence. Dance skills. The better rappers. I'm glad things turned out the way they did. No regrets like Team B's Climax.
Thomas L i disagree that all WINNER has is vocals..they have better choreography they have better song writing skills they are "better" looking ,not that iKON isnt goodlooking, WINNER are just better looking... and imo mino is better rapper than BI and Bobby, if you istened to his mixtapes/songs when he was still a trainee in Stardom.. 1) Mino 2) Bobby 3) BI 4)Hoon they both very different groups... its unfair to compare them... both of them are SO talented in their own rights... they are 12 amazing boys who are brothers... and both will slay.. no need to put down one to make the other look better... [edit] WINNER wouldnt have won that many rookie awards if vocals were all they had :)
Here we go again... Comparison .... Don't be like that guys ... They all deserve to be recognized by their own skills not by placing who's first and who's last.. They a suffered mentally and physically... A better way to see it to imagine all of them in a collaboration and see how amazing they are together... I mean all the rappers together.. All singers together... They all have they're own charms let's leave it like... In the end and in reality TEAM A and TEAM B are like brothers
It only takes a bare minimum of media literacy to tell when a reality TV show is deliberately framing someone as the underdog, and employing various methods of making them appear more sympathetic than the competition, in an effort to make them win. Just saying. Pitting off someone more established with an existing fanbase against unknowns in a show that involves audience voting. Check. Giving them more screen time early on in the season, to build a stronger connection with the audience while their competition remains an enigma until much later in the season. Playing into a human bias to prefer the first thing they get in contact with. Check. Picking moments from hours of interview footage that show them being vulnerable, worried and anxious in most of their Interview footage while their competition is being shown as confident in a way that makes some people see them as too cocky. Check. Turning their hardships and physical injuries into multi episode story lines while the other team's are glossed over in one sentence or not shown at all. Check. Manipulating competition rounds in their favour, either by giving them the easier task, or by sabotaging the competition in some other way (e.g. forcing them to change their performance last minute). Check. picked who they want to win before the show even starts and design everything to make that happen. cr andrereacts
most of the fans wanted team A to win because they were the older group, and supposedly they were there longer, so they won. i would like to say that although i wanted team B to win, i would be worried that YG would change team A or even discard them because they did show a lot of problems along the way (because i love them all). I was more confident that YG wouldn't do anything to team B besides hold them back from debuting because YG did seem to favor team B more because they met his expectations. As well as being professionally judged by the YG family, JYP, and whoever else had to judge besides the fans. Hwaiting for WINNER and Team B
they're both hard working, have talent, and have undeniable passion for being in this entertainment. :) i haven't really heard anything but YG did keep the whole team B and they were a part of that YG family performance thing in Japan not too long ago :) they were also a part of Taeyang's Ringa Linga
Aline Nguyen haha np :) i just assumed it was so because during the time they filmed WIN, a lot of fans that said that they wanted Team A to win was because they were the older group and apparently went through more hardships and such (which I think both teams went through a lot of hardship...)
It takes more than that to be a badass crew. If you watched Team A, their pieces and choreographies are original. Don't get me wrong, I liked Team B more than A since they're more "prepared for the battle" but what they lack is originality. (Hanbin watched ABDC too much :P)
I realllyyyy wanted them to win!! I love seeing them perform! Their energy, their skills, and their teamwork is more than enough to make it in the kpop industry. Especially since there isn't a hip hop group like them yet. I mean yes Team A also deserved it but idk. I just thought Team B was more talented and caught my eye more
the way they dance is really SUPERB. i like how they come up with their choreo that always have a style :)) I AM A WINNER FAN but when it comes to dancing, they are really much better. not to mention "Lee Seung Hoon: in team a. i hope they'll debut soon. i miss BOBBY and B.I and if ever they will be disbanded, then i just wish bobby and b.i should debut as a duo
This team handled by GD???or Taeyang? Perfect as a hiphop team, but tgey didnt win as a WINNER,and they are meant to be an iKON the BROTHER of HIPHOP KING BIGBANG 👏👏 Full of swag..
Thanks so much for this. With each episode I became a bigger fan of them because of their amazing dancing. I love them for their personalities too, of course, and their singing but dance is really where they shine. It doesn't matter that a lot of it isn't their original choreo (and they credited the original artists in every episode so people need to stop saying they "copied" or "stole"), it still takes skill and talent to memorize such technically advanced routines. B.I really did an amazing job with his team and the members made him proud, even if they didn't win the show. Jinhwan may be the tiniest of the bunch and I think he's often overlooked but he's always the first one I look for. He's just SO good. I would love to see Seunghoon choreograph for them. During their performances, you can see how impressed he is with their level of skill and I really think he could do things with them that he can't do with his own team. Team B just has that edge, that technical IT-factor that Winner doesn't.
At first I was sad they lost but now honestly I am satisfy they didn't win to be in WINNER.....they can debut with a better name and image...hopefully they all debut together...finger cross
Oh, man. Why does it matter so much that they used moves from other dance crews? It's not like this is a competition focusing solely on dancing. This merely tests the level of their dancing skills. It's a matter of being able to execute it well. So what if you could do the same moves, if you look like shit while dancing it you wouldn't be able to impress anybody. Team B was judge based on how they performed such complicated movements which also heavily relied on their teamwork. If we were to look at their dancing skills alone, you could conclude that they really excel in that certain aspect.
team b is sure the team who can dance!!! i love their unified, sure B.I is a good leader!! with their rap and power dance, i think that's their charm.. :D and team a/winner is the team who can sing well!! i think their syncronized is just perfect!! with their composing talent, it's just make the perfect musician! that's what make their different from team b, i think be a singer it's true must have a good vocal and syncronized.. that's the point! :)) i think team b just have to raised their singing ability, and boom! they sure will make a great boyband! keep the faith, and fighting! we wait for you guys to debut soon after winner officialy debut, just have more patience.. love you~ :) and for team a/winner i think they just have to increased their power dance ability, and they true be the winner!! during the passing of time since win, I think their dancing ability has improved greatly!!! seungyoon just prove that you can be the best leader for leading your team!! just can't wait for their officialy debut!! i believe in you guys!! fighting!! love youu~~ :*
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