I don't do any really either. I just make sure it's able to do the bandwidth I need....which is only hi-speed. Belkin cables have a fanbase lol. I'm still rocking the factory PS4 PRO HDMI 2.0 cable, and another nicer cable from Walmart, that has lit up RGB ends.
@@Coloradocaliber I do too, to an extent, but not with HDMI cables anymore.... I've bought enough over the years. I have enough of them as it is. Some of them are older 1.4 cable's though.
Researched for HDR and 4:2:2 for Xbox one x/Apple TV. Got Belkin HDMI and it works well on both devices using all the features. Thanks for the video it helps with the new tv OLED I am getting soon.
Monoprice AND Cable Matters work great! HDMI 2.1 cost is not much if any more than HDMI 2.0; for me I’d buy the HDMI 2.1 just future proof buy one and done.
Hi FOMO! Thanks for all the great videos. The expensive AudioQuest HDMI cables you mentioned are not for home theater use; I can’t imagine them making a big enough difference to be worth their price in such a use case. They are really only for use in ultra high-end HiFi audio systems, where cables make a very big difference in the sound for critical listening. This week I obtained one such cable, and am using it as the I2S interface cable from a PS Audio SACD transport into a Holo Audio May KTE DAC. The main transducer system I use with this setup is a HiFiMan electrostatic headphone system, which is known as a ruthless microscope into the source material. In a system with this kind of resolving power, it is VERY easy to hear the difference cables make, this signal cable being no exception. But again, it is most definitely NOT for use in a home theater rig, where neither the sound equipment nor the video signal could possibly be made that much different by it while simply playing a movie.
One of only 2 presenters of HDMI capabilities (of a Half Dozen I Watched) that actually has his head Screwed On. Excellent presentation Technically, And Excellent Speaking - Articulation and Cadence. Good Job..............
Bought 5 hdmi 48gb cables, 3 just flat out didn’t work, one would work randomly but almost always cuts out,finally ponied up for an audioquest cable and haven’t had a problem since….I honestly never believed that paying that much made sense until I had to and now when it comes to my high end toys I will always buy them. Setup is lg cx, Ps5, Xbox series x, and finally bringing in the sound with the lg sn11rg.
i use Zeskit Maya 2.1 HDMI Cable. Works amazing. my old cables (one included with the ps5, and amazon basics etc,) had black screen flickering and drop outs. Zeskit fixed it. 0 dropouts all week
I've been using the stock Series X 2.1 cable on my 4K/120 TV and I've been having the same issues you were experiencing. I'm hoping this Monoprice one he's promoting has the same success as your Zeskit, just ordered it.
@@TheHabitualWordsmith be careful with promotion videos. Not saying it’s a bad cable but he’s definitely pushing his own link. You don’t have to overspend but no reason to underspend. I’m a firm believer in you get what you pay for. I also know Amazon can have QC issues and would rather spend $15 on a future proof 2.1 cable of decent build quality knowing it’s going to last at least a decade… as it should. Using cheap subpar materials is a crapshoot for longevity. Again you don’t need $100 cable but I’m a buy once cry once guy. However, I wouldn’t spend over $30 on a cable and if I’m spending $20-$30 it’s because I want a braided cable that’s fairly flexible because I’m afraid it could put undo stress (probably not though) on the hdmi port. But something to be said for future proofing because HDMI 2.1 is good enough
@@greg6162 I appreciate the advice. I ended up going with a different cord that I looked into and I haven't really had any further drop out image issues, save for once in a blue, and I'm chalking that up to running 120hz in Destiny 2 PVP, which is notoriously bad for that and usually the only place the drop out happens.
What I read was, both Audioquest and Club 3D were the only two 2.1 ultra hdmi cables to date with the official cerrification. But Club 3D are readily available online and Much cheaper. Did I hear correctly, about the certifications?
Thank you for this review!! Just recently discovered you guys when shopping for my new OLED. Clicked your link, bought the cables. Liked and subscribed too! Keep up the good work!
I just bought a Sony x950h, on sale at BB, based on your really helpful reviews. Realizing that I better get HDMI cables before the TV is delivered, I jumped on Amazon this morning. After 30 minutes I had such a headache. I'm 65 and just wanted to know what $$#& cable will work with my TV. Thanks so much for the easy to understand use explanation AND product links. I stopped the video, hit your links, bought two cables on Amazon that didn't cost more than the TV, and jump back on RU-vid to finish your video. Perfect 👍
Great video! My 2c on Audioquest cables based on my experience using and selling them-- for video, i doubt anyone would notice any difference at all. Either they work or they dont. For audio, it is a whole 'nother ball game. I've done the tests, and you can clearly hear a difference from a $5 cable to a $50 or hundred dollar one. Beyond that, clearly diminishing returns. With that being said, we are talking about speakers that are at minimum 2 grand for a pair with high end receivers etc to hear the difference. if you are using a home-theater-in-a-box or soundbar, of course the exotic cables aren't worth it. Point #2--for people who are building a 10k, 25k, 50k, 100k home theater, they arent going to hook everything together with a $8 cable. In the grand scheme of things, a $75 or $150 cable is pretty cheap. Looking forward to more content!
If it's analog (including speaker wire on modern digital AVRs), an audiophile MIGHT be able to tell the difference between cheap & expensive cables. Nearly everything else is now digital; as long as the next device receives it accurately it will be perfect.
Thanks for the information i'll have a look at monoprice's HDMI 2.1 cable once Sony adds the HDMI 2.1 update for the Sony 55 XH90 Bravia TV which i'm currently using.
Hi there, thanks for the good content. Let me give you some technical reasons of why long HDMI cables ( non optical )are expensive and sometimes unreliable. Building a cable that is ready for transmitting 48Gbps means around 48 billions bits per second. This requires something called controlled impedance which is a technique that assures precise impedance on the entire conduction line. To do this manufactures place a bunch of fillers inside the cable along with the cooper line wires and they are all spaced out at a precise distance. This is much easier to do when the cable is short, but when the cable start becoming longer it is very difficult to keep all those parameter consistent. When the impedance start to miss-match at some point on the transmission line that creates signal reflections and the communication colapse ( other words, it does not work ) That is why the price goes up exponentially as the cable length increase. Let’s not under estimate this technology. It is pretty amazing we are able to transmit data at such high speed ( again, 48 billion bits per second ) that is smoking fast.
I think it's worth it looking for the premium certified label for HDMI 2.0 cables and ultra certified for HDMI 2.1 when buying HDMI cables. I say this since I've tested plenty of HDMI cables and lot of noname brands aren't able to hit the minimum required 18gbps just for the HDMI 2.0 causing all kinds of annoying drops or other mysterious issues making it tough to troubleshoot bad TV, console, Apple TV, etc.. Quick way to test this is to try enabling or running RGB 4K@60hz since that will hit near the 18gbps limit 4K 60 4:4:4 (no HDR) = 17.82Gbps. Also won't be able to enable HDR in Windows 10 with weaker cables since won't handle higher required bandwidth! Cheaper cables won't be able to do it and I'd return those or get rid of them.
@@stopthefomo doesn't your audio receiver have a 8K cable test I watched another channel with a 2700h and he did a cable test by plugging the input to the output. Once he plugged the AK input to the output it did test at 40 GB per second... Doesn't your 3500 have the same capability?
True, I will continue to buy Audioquest or other renowned brands because experience is experience, isolation is very important and cheaper manufacturers do not have that.
@Ernesto Hernandez Yeah bought another one week after. I mean, they are Ultra high speed ethernet cables with 48gbp bandwidth. Any cablr with these specs will do, just dont buy snake oil cables like Audio quest lol.
Next gen console PS5 or Xbox X will be 4k 60fps max.... 2.0 hdmi cable will be perfectly fine and also everyone who buy new model console will get one good quality hdmi cable.... I still use hdmi cable what i receive with ps4pro and working top
For people who live in high-RFI/EMI environments (apartment complexes, large office buildings, etc.) a high-quality SHIELDED cable is critical for good sound/ picture. THAT is worth paying for.
Monoprice makes you feel good because you didn't get ripped off. I have used them for years. Never has one not worked of failed. 2 PC's, 1 PS4, 1PS4 Pro, and 2 TV's in my house all have Monoprice HDMI 2.0 cables on them.
As someone who has spent big money on expensive hdmi cables for a pretty decent home cinema setup I honestly can’t tell the difference between cheap and expensive cables.
I just got the Sony bravia x900h, waiting for the 2.1 upgrade that will be coming soon. Going to order the 13 dollar cable you mentioned. Thanks your knowledge is appreciated. 🤘
Wow just dished out $3000 for a Samsung Q800T....And here I am wondering how much I’m going to have to pay for new 8K hdmi wires. You sir are a godsend and I thank you very much for your input on this topic! Straight forward and Cheap prices for cables that do the job!
Don't buy expensive cables. This is the same back in the monster cable days where they tried to make it seem like you needed an expensive cable to get a good connection. Today we use a digital signal which is 1s and 0s and not analog where a high quality cable made sense for a better signal. If the cable is able to send a digital signal that's good enough.
simplified: It either works or it doesn't ( at all or artifacts). The material and construction quality determine the output, just physics no magic where some people resort when they are lazy to think, want to believe or just want to justify their huge spending. Using local German DeleyCon HDMI 10 meters long for feeding my optoma beamer for 5 years with rough handling and works like a charm.
Bought a Panasonic UB820 UHD player and replaced an Oppo blue ray player. I began to have momentary blackouts when viewing UHD movies. Bought a 8K rated HDMI cable 2.1 to replace a 2.0 HDMI cable and problem was solved.
Cheaper cables are more vulnerable to interference, thats why the expensive ones are thicker, also in longer versions, wich is what fomo said, the cheap ones dont work longer then 20 feet. What most people also dont know, is that ferro's and non ferro components have to match otherwise or both start to oxidize when there is moisture in the air or you life near the ocean(chlorides), But mainly these cables are for pro's and the input/output components are only be found in high class professional audio video products, and im not talking about products like sonos etc products for the mainstream. Of course these brands have to sell their products they dont hang on to only pro users, so there are way too many of them in store, but there is a huge profit for stores if the try to sell those cables to consumers.
for consoles PS5 and XSX both will come with HDMI 2.1 cable 6 feet so don't be hurry just buy hdmi 2.1 cable if you need more than 6 feet or PC graphics card
Not sure if you read these comments or not but Ill take a chance. I enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from you over these past 6 months. I am very active on reddit and I enjoy helping others when it comes to my experience with 4k tvs. In one board I was twice banned for either linking one of your videos or once just for mentioning the video. I dont like bullies. So I decided to start a new sub where people who want to discuss 4k tvs can do that and share links to video content like yours that will help others or at the very least give them another thing to think about as they ponder which tv is best for them. I limit the videos I source and link too, to only 4 or 5 content creators, you, HDTVTest, Digital Trends, Rtings, and randomly here or there maybe one or two others. I wont advertise or link the sub here as I am not trying to spam you and the fact is I only set it up the other day and have only 1 member so far. I have a lot of work to do to hopefully build it up with good information and attract people to it and build a reputation as a great place to come for good information with a friendly vibe and no censorship over sharing videos from youtube that are helpful when discussing 4k tvs. I love talking tech, learning new things, seeing what the industry does as a whole and its response to changes that come and go, I just really enjoy it and am an avid viewer of this type of content. Is it alright with you that I share your videos and reference your work in my reddit sub? I make and read comments on these videos as well, but I think over time they stop getting any attention or replies and I think the forum is a better place to archive some of this stuff for folks that come around looking for information and have questions months after the videos are made. As questions pop up on Reddit I often will refer to a video you made several months or weeks earlier and it creates a new discussion on the same topic with people who werent aware of your channel or the video before hearing it in the forum. I hope that you dont mind my sharing your videos and content and I hope that I can help others along the way who are just learning some of this stuff while trying to make an expensive purchase for their next tv.
Iv just ordered the Q95T, so will need the second wire. Can’t wait. The CX isn’t good for bright rooms which I have, plus burn in and also only transmit up to 40gb. The Q95T has a lot higher contrast and is brighter, apart from darker blacks in the OLED. Samsung is the winner for me.
Thanks for the info. For me, the reason to spend a few dollars more and get HDMI 2.1 is so I don’t have to buy new cables as I upgrade my equipment. The difference in price is minuscule. Especially if you are running them through the walls. I have an old TV but just got a Sonos Arc. For various reasons I need some new cables. My TV is too old for ARC but the Sonos sound bar is capable of eARC. Spending a few dollars more and getting 2.1 means I don’t have to buy new cables later when I upgrade my TV.
Looking TV definitely doesn't do 4K120hz HDMI 2.1. However, plan is to upgrade the graphics card on my PC to something that will be able to push a minimum 4K@60fps and ideally 4K@120fps with HDR enables and ultra visual settings. So may just go with the HDMI 2.1 cabless
Any "HDMI 2.1" cables are just Premium Certified cables with a different name on them. There currently isn't a certification that rates cables to 48 Gbps.
This video simplifies the HDMI 2.1 gaming requirements in terms of just resolution, framerates, and HDR needs but there's way more to HDMI 2.1 than just that!
Just bought an LG c2 OLED tv. Plugged it into my rtx 3060ti and it was working well. I started getting these purple horizontal lines flickering and tearing the screen. I thought the tv was broken but it appears my hdmi cable (series s included cable) was not enough. I got an 8k 60 rated cable. 48gbps. My problem was solved. My hdmi 2.0 cable for the Xbox was not enough. Also. HDR wouldn’t work with the older cable. I think it’s safe to say that if you get a modern OLED tv and a good graphics card. You are going to need a 48gbps cable.
I just wanted to thank this guy. I just got a "new" Q70r and saw this video yesterday. And realized that my sound bar and PS4 are hooked up to old pre-4K era HDMI cables. I ordered the Monoprice 4K cables and ordered the 6ft cables for $6-7 each. So i got the two and literally like an hour before my shipment came in today, the PS4 picture would not show on my Q70. I didn't have to wait long and switched the cables and it was back to normal. Thanks!
As long as the cable is certified "HDMI High Speed with Ethernet" it should work with ARC or eARC. "High Speed" is 18 Gbps; ARC & eARC use the HDMI wires originally intended for Ethernet (a mostly redundant feature when most devices have WiFi).
I have always been an early adopter so this is very helpful, I appreciate it! I just bought the Sony X900H with eventual hdmi 2.1 support and hope to preorder the PS5. Looking forward to next gen!
Arcaneus Umbra 48gbps is what the standard speed is for hdmi 2.1. HDCP 2.3 is what is needed to transmit certain copyrighted data at some point in the future.
Just be aware that a real HDMI 2.1 certified cable has not arrived to the market yet. Structured Cable Products (SCP) will be the first to deliver. And they will be reference cable to anyone else, who want to launch a HDMI 2.1 cable.
I've got a 3090 and lgcx, I was using a 2.1 zeskit cable before watching this video, and I am definitely a convert to monoprice 2.0, its cheaper and does exactly what I need. I paid a ridiculous amount for my zeskit cable, like 24 bucks or something, im going to see if I can return it. 2.1 is simply not needed right now and is a cash grab. Thank you for this video.
Once I had a cable that worked out of the box for my PC and monitor fine, and at some point I started watching some visualization on my screen with fast moving images and the screen went black every time I run it on the desktop. It was not even a game. In games the cable also worked... The cable was made to just "work" until it met something that caused not to work... I got faster cable and no more problems after that.
You are much kinder than I. Cables get overpriced because of the ridiculous profit margin companies can get on them from consumers who don't know better. Back in the day, when we were all using analog, yes better cables likely impacted the sound/video given that the output of the cable was determined about how well electrical signal could traverse it. Now? Everything is digital and using codecs that have built-in error-correction at multiple layers. The odds are astonishingly high that the cable would make much of a difference. But stores (and consumers) got used to asking $100's for gold-tipped awesome cables back in the analog days, and when we moved to digital, consumers (who didn't know) just assumed it was the same paradigm. Of course stores and manufacturers were happy to oblige. Pure greed and preying on those who don't know better or think they know better.
I have the LG CX and Emotiva XMC 2 and both support 2.1 HDMI so its a no Brainerd for me on which one to get l have the Xbox one X and have a 2.0 HDIM cable already Very good informative vid on HDIMI cables, job well done!!
Mono price is Da Bomb! Been buying from them for 15 years. Remember Monster Cable HDMi for $100! Lol a$$holes! Thanks for sharing the best cable supplier in Monoprice. I even bought a guitar from them! Nvidia and AMD GPUs are highly anticipated.
After watching this im looking for a back up hdmi, i got the 2.1 monoprice 8k, i know i only got sony 4k led, but man this way better than my monster fiber hdmi, wish i can show it to you guys the different, monoprice performance is like $500, i only got it for 12 dint turn my tv like 8k but the sharpness the lifelike, and in gaming color morr vibrant more details good input lag, not trying to convince u guys but give it a try is really good save a lot of money too😎
With PlayStation five coming out I was a little wary of this HDMI 2.1, I’m not upgrading my TV till after Xmas lol - I still got a 2012 4k LCD Samsung - A normal 2.0 cable should be fine I just hope it doesn’t make my Ps5 run slower or not enjoy the hell out of the next gen gaming but you definitely helped me out - goin online - to get the same 4k gaming HDMI cable I used for my ps4 - and cancelling The AK 2.1 fancy HDMI cable probably fit in the 2.0 slot anyway Just wanted to make sure I can get the most out of the PS five as possible with what I have tv wise - thank your for clearing that up subbed and will be watching more for sure .
Ha, funny monoprice story. I got in a fight with the owner 10 years ago and he banned me from store when I stopped selling his products by the pallet because he refused to tag my pallets with a rebrand.... we bought over $1M of his products in 2009 alone. He held a grudge on me, i had to open an anonymous account just to buy smaller orders before Amazon got big and the Director of Sales and VP of company sold to me behind his back. So dumb... no wonder he hired a CEO
bought the monoprice hdmi 2.0 premium certified 15" and I kept getting random blank screens. Then I decided to go for Audioquest Ocean 12". Bought at half price used from Ebay and couldn't be happier. I never experienced any kind of random blank screen with audioquest. Perfect sharpness and color.
I agree with everything you've stated, with caveats. I have a Sony 75X940E, which is only 4k 60hz with HDR 10 and Dolby Vision. It has no HDMI 2.1 features like eARC, etc. I also have an LG 65C9 with 4 HDMI 2.1 ports. Nothing on the market right now, until the Xbox Series X is released, supports HDMI 2.1. However, with both sets, using just any HDMI 2.0 cables Apple TV 4K will either not work, or be extremely finicky. If you recall, Apple marketed an "official" HDMI cable for it by Belkin that was HDMI 2.1 compatible. I swore it was a scam, but after trying numerous high quality cables, nothing worked. So I tried the "official" Belkin cables for the Apple TV 4K, and voila, like magic everything worked. I've also had success with the Zeskit premium Cinema HDMI cables that allegedly provide 20Gbps-ish of bandwidth. For everything else, including 4k Blu-ray, cheaper, quality, HDMI 2.0 cables worked perfectly. The Apple TV 4k is an outlier, and not indicative of 99% of devices. However, other people have reported issues getting eARC to work on the LG C9 as well with many HDMI 2.0 cables, so if you have a C9 and the price difference is relatively small, go with a decent HDMI 2.1 cable, as they are fully backwards compatible.
I have a cable it's for 4K & 8K... It works okay but need a new 4K HDR10 TV... Moving to NY had me Leave my TV sad it was best TV I ever had 4K HDR for $320 at Wal-Mart it was Hisensee "43" H6 series from 2018...
Thanks for the no BS, no-nonsense advice/information. I use Amazon Basic and Monoprice 2.0 cables with my Samsung 4K set. - 6" cables and one 25' to my laptop. All work perfectly - of course, I mostly stream content and watch dvd/blu-ray discs. But I'm an OF. Subscribed.
thank you for being an awesome source of information. you are very informative, but also treat your audience with respect, and as you relay the information, you are slow enough pace, so that people understand rather than talking really fast and we can't keep up or comprehend . thank you.. again
Even a console you don’t need a 2.1 cable. The only thing that needs a 2.1 is a high end tv connected to a pc with a minimum nvidia 3080 or a Radeon 6800xt to achieve that kind of bandwidth. Then you’ll see the difference. Xbox or PlayStation is never going to push that limit.
