He Who Moans Review of Doctor Who: World Enough and Time 

Yes Stuart, but the fact that you were so invested in Bill and Razors relationship is what makes the Masters whole evil scheme that much more twisted.

It's a stubagsian cyberman

Pain. Pain. Pain. Creepy shit, and the Die Me. Die Me. thing was freaky too, because the patients can't even tell you to kill them properly anymore. The Razor dialogue is awesome, with the "Mainly the tea" dialogue.

Biggest flaw for this episode: The only reason the Doctor was late to saving Bill was because he took 5 minutes to explain time dilation caused by close proximity to a black hole to the blue guy. Blue guy didn't ask, and the explanation was mainly for the audience's sake, not blue guy.

My first ever exposure to the Cybermen was I think Death in Heaven, and then I watched Doomsday after that. The combined effect of those two episodes was to make me think the Cybermen were about as threatening as a water soaked tissue, so I didn't initially understand why Stu seemed to think they were so awesome. Then, however, I saw this, and I think I'm beginning to understand. The Cybermen might be relatively easy to kill, but that isn't what makes them threatening. It's the body horror aspect that makes them scary.

I think the Master's presence actually does more than you give it credit for. After all this episode opened with us trying to see if Missy could become good (as well as a good chunk of the season for that matter). In that sense John Simm's Master is the ultimately wrench in that question. Essentially in this story he is the personification of all the Master's dickish tendencies, the devil on the shoulder as Missy is trying to do good. It's also the ultimate reminder of how the Master's past crimes will never truly go away because they are haunting him/her in the present. As Angel has said redemption is not an easy thing and you can never really wash your past actions away and the temptation to just give up because of that fact is always looming over you. Plus this whole thing with Bill is probably one of the most sadistic things that Master has ever done. He befriended Bill for 10 bloody years just so he could make her eventual conversion that much more horrible.

"I hAve bEEN wAitING FOR thIS reViEEW" Talking as Mondasian Cybermen is really fun.

Simm's purpose in the story is to validate Missy's redemption.

I get the feeling Moffet watched Interstellar before writing this episode.

I knew Moffat was watching, always watching

He Who Mondas

Sorry, but John Simm's reveal was incredible. Loved and agreed with everything else though.

apparently "some individuals" got offended about the level of horror in this episode.......Lol, This is exactly how the cybermen should be...the most chilling and "adult" villian in the Doctor Who world. This one kept me on the edge of my seat in revulsion.....Rise Of The Cybusmen put me to sleep in 5 minutes. LOL

The cyberman stuff in this was great, stuff around it was a bit more wobbly. The Doctor Falls isn't amazing but it is a solid finale that is by far the best of his tenure.

The main gripe I have with this episode is that Bill became like the 4th girl in a Moffat episode who waited. Also I think the Mondasian cybermen were supposed to be a surprise, but the BBC got paranoid that they either couldn't keep it a secret or couldn't get the viewing figures without revealing them. But it's more of a shame that this is basically all we see the Mondasian cybermen do (aside from cyberBill).

Like being the 2017 young millennial I am, for some reason I can watch the entire of you videos without getting the sudden urge to skip to another video, well done! gold star

Just gonna say now, i think the next part was actually pretty good. It was just so full of every moffat trope that if i was completely unfamilliar with moffats work that i'd have liked this one a hell of a lot more than i did.

Razor's mask is torn off, reveals a bald man with sinister eyes and charming smile. "I'm the Master... Hello me!" What I wish had happened.

3:27-3:35 So Moffat is like Ego from Gaurdians of the Galaxy 2. Starts off as a decent guy then reviles that he is a giant winy greedy parasite.

Next week you'll be headbutting the desk

Yes, the purposelessness of Simm´s Master was also the thing, that bothered me the most about this episode! They could´ve at least added some awesome flashback, that explains how he landed back on Galifrey, how things went there and how he ended up on that spaceship!

Pain pain pain. That I feel is pity for Mondasian Cybermen.

Okay, this is weird. Am I the only one who thinks The Doctor Falls was fucking awesome?

One other thing I liked about the whole prelude to Bill getting shot thing that you didn't mention is how they subverted the Doctor speech thing. Usually in these situations the Doc is able to talk a person down into doing what he wants (in fact the speech he uses here is lifted from Oxygen). But instead it fails and in the heat of the moment Bill gets shot which makes the moment have even more impact.

Just stumbled onto your channel and oh my gosh I love your reviews

For goodness sake Stuart that review was terrifying.

7thWhoKnots and I are currently in the making of a Cyberman film, and we're doing a rather good job of recreating the costumes here. It's a Doctorless fanfilm and I really hope you get to watch it when it comes out.

Dude, I´VE LOST MY SHIT at the *"Moffat´s massive, massive brain"* part! That´s YOUR joke! Now and forever.

I'm glad you enjoyed this episode, I was looking forward to hearing your thoughts! Can't wait for the next one...

I guess John Sims master was kinda included for two reason 1: Making Fans sqeeeeee 2: Making sense in Canon with Spare Parts, because of the second brain-lobe stuff that was taken from the Doctor's Timelord Biology in, judging that the Master is also a Timelord.

Nice Review. In all honesty I think after his last christmas special you should do an overall on the Moffat Era like as in his strengths, his flaws, his best wnd his worst. I woukd watch that.

haha i loved my cameo. fantastic review. also felt this episode was great, part 2 is good, much better than hell bent.

Oh, I was waiting for this! I still don't know what to think about the next episode

that end skit was great.

Yes. Thank you. I hated the forced Danny Pink relationship. In his first few minutes, they drop his clunky melodramatic backstory right in our laps like a ton of bricks, as a single tear rolls down his cheek. And there we go. We're told, in all caps, that this is a sympathetic character that we're meant to sympathize with... so start sympathizing, damn it! Remember how Rory came off as kind of a pathetic drip for 2 or 3 episodes, and slowly he revealed himself as the goofball with a heart of gold? Somebody worth liking, as a character? Yeah, screw that noise! We'll take care of that with a 20-second flash-back of a boilerplate tragic sob-story and an unconvincing tear.

I think the tear was relevant because it shows that Bill wasn't fully converted as she still was able to shed tears which is a human trait. Secondly, it also foreshadows that Heather (the puddle girl) left her tears to Bill, so that when it comes into play later, it would make sense.

This episode actually actually scared the shit out of my little brother when we sat down to watch it on ABC3, and he's 14!

This episode actually made the Cybermen great again! I loved it!

Spare Parts still wins out, but this is probably my favourite Moffat written story (even if the follow up fell into The Moff's usual trappings... Albeit less egregious than Hellbent) Part of me did have a few nitpicks and desires to tweak certain scenes for added horror factor, but on the whole, I loved World Enough and Time's build up and portrayal of the Mondas Cybermen, with some of the best scenes dedicated to Bill slowly learning more about the plight aboard the ship and the pain in which its people were in. Can't really say much about The Master's redemption arc since I'm convinced that come next showrunner its all gonna be undone as "MWAHAHAHAHA! You never truly thought I could be a good guy right Doctor?" The show loves itself some status quo and I doubt The Master's redemption is gonna stick in her next incarnation. It does kinda piss me off though... Maybe a little too much. Maybe I should go to Mondas where I will have no need of emotions. In fact, why don't we all go to Mondas. You will become like us.

Even though it has flaws, I actually liked "The Doctor Falls" But I'll talk about that more on your next video.

The Cybermen should really be the doctor's worst enemy as they have killed 2 of his companions. Unlike Gallafriy they didn't get brought back and face it the Doctor always held the time Lords in contempt anyway.

I absolutely love this episode. Definitely my favorite of Nu Who. My favorite part about the episode is, looking back on it, Bills conversion is kinda the Doctors fault. If he hadn't blabbered on so much at the top of the ship, for example the whole Venusian Akido exchange, he would have gotten to Bill on time.

Series 10 really surprised me with how good it was. After hell bent I was just completely burned and expecting things would never get better.

Another thing about that zoom in shot of Cyber-Bill's eye is that her tear comes from the wrong end of her eye. Tears come from the red tear generator thingy at the side closest to the nose not the outer side. That annoyed me

hmm.... that end gives a whole new meaning to your intro!

I agree with pretty much with everything you said here. Ngl I really feel that they missed the opportunity to call one part Exodus of the Cybermen.

I'd say next episode, while containting alot of Deus Ex Moffata about it, is a 100% improvement over Hell Bent.

Great episodes like this make Moffat's crap episodes even more annoying.

I hope you catch the slight Frobisher reference in part 2 Stu!

Finally the review is up!

I don't see how this'll conflict with Spare Parts, since this just a colony ship and it's trapped in a black hole now. The Master's influence could've been what steered them towards the Mondasian cyberman design or it could've been they had the cybermen planned all along as a fallback.

What did u think about the pre titles? U prob will talk next time about it but just wondering

I'm convinced that Moffat has a split personality; one personality who actually tries to write engaging and interesting stories and another personality who just cares about mystery boxes and fan service

what's that? oh, look, it's Moffat's massive brain xD

Why did the half finished cybermen from the hospital spend months (of their time) going to get a human (Bill) from the other end of their ship when they had a whole city full of people.? The same question goes for their "raids" to snatch kids off the higher levels when these went wrong and were met with resistance why did they continue? I hated that the mondasian cybermen had to evolve into the "new who" ones despite the really obvious higher level of technonolgy in the mondas ship compared to early twentyfirst century earth (even the alternative reality one) where the new Who cybermen arose. I do like the idea that Mondas culture was just about to give rise to cyberman society at the point when the big ship left so they were culturally or historically determined to do that. I liked the whole classic who idea of the cybermen they could have been the borg of their day and "Genesis of the cybermen" along the lines of genesis of the daleks is a missing story that should have been written years ago. Genesis of the cybermen............ The doctor goes to mondas and stops the cybernetics research or else backs a faction that opposes it's implementation. He maybe does this because all these regenerations later he now wishes that as tom baker he had actually done his job on skaro properly ! Or maybe he is using the whole thing to teach a new companion how usless it is to try and change "timey wimey stuff" I'd love to see the doctor agonising as a nice democratic mondas is being seduced by the lure of a promised hi tech answer to the problems of it's society. The result of his time meddling is that when he returns (a couple of episodes later)mondas society has suffered a great plague or civil war that would otherwise not have happened and realising it was due to alien interference they then develop into a hugely xenophobic society or are in some other way worse than they would have been (maybe by delaying the process better speech modulation or weapons tech goes on in the meantime and they are more successful as cybermen) So with tears in his eyes the lad from gallifrey goes back to mondas just after his meddling visit and undoes his work this time teaching them cybernetics or blackmailling the nice leader of the "anti-cybernetic opposition faction" Becoming in effect the davros of the cybermen !! Maybe even Our boy could be forced into this not by his own conscience but by a survivor of a time sensitive species who's planet has been knackered by the cybermen whilst they know it should have had a nice future. They could be all lovely and spiritual and able to see in time but not corporeal and so unable to actually manipulate objects and build time machines and weapons and stuff. I'm rambling now but I think gallifrey was once invaded by (along with sontarants) some sort of transdimensional things that only manifested is this universe as ethereal music and a shade of light on some cellophane stuff. They could come back as a reward to old geeks !

The wait was worth it!

The garden scene also had me imagining Moffat, Peter Capaldi and Pearl Mackie suddenly appearing out of the bushes. Mackie would give Stu a big hug, while Moffat would give him a hard punch in the face. ;)

Bill Potts....was Spare Parts all along!!!! BOOOMMMM!!!!!

When I watched originally, I swore it was written explicitly for you personally.

Operation Exodus is the second part of the continuing initative made in Spare Parts

Ahh the cyber stubagful is terrifying

8:51 it's just a different group of humans coming up with the cyber men, on the ship far away from mondas. Something like how the doctor describes the cyber men rising in different times and different places, or what he termed 'parallel evolution'

You have no idea how quickly I clicked on this video

Wait Stuart did you just upload your reviews from s8? The Master and Cybermen also a black character gets converted

Well now I'm super curious to see what you'll think about the finale. I'm of two minds about it personally.

I would have preferred if Bill had slowly started to lose faith in the Doctor and had become darker. I mean, she was trapped there for at least 10 years with only one person to talk to. I wanted it to kind of be like future Amy in The Girl Who Waited, where she gave up on the Doctor and adjusted to life in that place. It was just not realistic for me that Bill remained the exact same for 10 years. She was away from home, away from friends, away from family, she had little entertainment, she could barely go anywhere...and yet she didn't change at all? Okay... >_>

this review is a little similar to mine... Stubagful watches The Whoniversals confirmed?

In my opinion it was the best finally episode of he new who

The Doctor Falls does pretty much say that Spare Parts and all these other Genesis of the Cybermen stories could still take place due to "parallel evolution", y'know the Cybermen still happen on Mondas, Telos, Marinus, etc., just coinidentially seperate from each other

That little intro had some serious Adult Swim at 3am vibes lol

This doesn’t contradict Spare Parts. That takes place on Mondas, this takes place parallel to that.

I think the inclusion of John Simm's Master just emphasised how much he really doesn't belong alongside Twelve. Twelve is a flawed, serious, authentic adult, and here Simm just comes across as a juvenile, psychopathic cartoon character, stroking his goatee and going, "I'm so EEEEEVIL. Bwahahahahaha." To a small extent Michelle Gomez does that, yes; but I thought Simm's response to Twelve's speech about kindness just made him look like a pointlessly vindictive child, more than anything else. I think it's that although Gomez's theatrics were a lot of fun, in general, psychopaths like the Master don't really interest me much. "Oh, it's you again. Can someone pass me a shotgun?"

Bro, this was fucking amazing! And hilarious!

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I feel that there are parts of the finale I feel you'll enjoy but definitely parts you'll dislike.

I still love that intro.

Glad you enjoyed it, I certainly did.

He's getting better because he's leaving. That way we'll miss him even though so much of his tenure was garbage.

Spare parts is still canon. They talk about it in part 2. In fact it makes some of the comic origins canon. They are always beginning.

I think your going to have issue with the season final, it's got Moffat's fingerprints all over it.

1:40 potts potts potts potss

Yah! Who Reviews...also known as the highlight of my day! I'm so very, very sad!

At the 7:21 mark of the video is absolute joy

This was the first cyberman story in new Who to actually creep me out!!

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Damn. That was one narrow back garden.

If I felt more about bill's characters or she had more of a character I would of felt more invested in his story

I loved this two parter

bill potts, bill potts i waited.

It's just such a shame about how meh the doctor falls is after this episode

This review was hilarious and fantastic Also nice one on admitting the tenth planet isn't that great. Because I think it's very overrated

Capaldi's Doctor isn't a good nor bad man. He is an idiot with a box. He is just a kind man floating through the universe, trying to help people whenever and however he can.

Don't worry Stu, part 2 is just as good, if not better.

could you do a TV dissection on made in chelsea?

Its gonna be Hell Bent/The End of Time all over again with The Doctor Falls

FOCUS STUART!

The cybermen aren't scary because of how intimidating, stompy, or 'AWESUM' they'ved looked throughout the show....they're scary because of what they are...taking a human being like you ad me, slowly and painfully butchering them and altering them to become a cruel parody, a walking life support unit. without body horror, the concept of these villians fails. Whyelse do you think the worst cyberman episodes show them as "generic, dalek imitating conquerers"

I knew it was John Simm IMMEDIATELY. It's John Simm, nobody has that evil-face-range. The rest of the episode's great. Especially Capaldi's face when he sees the Simm Master.

The finalie was my kind of Fun bollocks

This episode is fucking beautiful... but then the doctor falls. Don't hold your breathe on him getting better again.