Head Position for a Faster Butterfly

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Technology can be a wonderful tool in helping swimmers swim faster. At The Race Club, we feel that there is a great opportunity to help all swimmers swim faster using new technology, the velocity meter.
Recently, National Team member and world-class butterfly swimmer, Amanda Kendall came to The Race Club for some Velocity Meter (VM) and Pressure Meter (PM) testing along with her coach Coley Stickels from Indiana Swimming and Diving. The VM measures velocity, acceleration and deceleration synchronized to video.
In doing her VM testing, I asked Amanda if we could make a slight change in her butterfly technique and test for the outcome. She agreed. Her normal technique while breathing was to keep the head position more or less in alignment with her upper body, resulting in very little motion in her neck. We tested her using her normal swimming technique and then asked her to extend her neck more fully for the breath and flex the neck fully to her chest after the breath, resulting in significantly more head motion. She had never actually done that before.
Amanda went to USA Winter Nationals swim competition and won the 100 m butterfly in a PR of 57.8, using the new swimming technique taught in this video. Comparing Amanda to Kelsi Worrell Dahlia, whom we had tested with the VM over a year earlier using a similar ‘head-in-alignment’ butterfly swimming technique, we found that with her new swimming technique, Amanda had more acceleration on the second down kick after the breath (coinciding with the head snapping down).
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@GlobalPenguin2012 5 лет назад

I tried this technic this evening during training. Wow..... it worked. My coach commented my butterfly is more powerful. Average 50m LC is 1s faster. Thank you race club

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Great! So glad to head it helped. Thanks for watching.

@y.g.1313 5 лет назад

hi, good point- you answered important gap that was missing in the video: average speed, which in your case was about 3% faster... can you please update- after 5 months post-comment- what was your progression / observation ?

@thibod07 2 года назад

Awesome! Those analysis are amazing! So surprising to see that such a small change in the head movement could make that much difference in your acceleration speed. Butterfly is such an energy demanding stroke any small change which does not take more power but increase speed is always welcome. Thank you for sharing it.

@theraceclub 2 года назад

You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

@lillocosta1777 5 лет назад

Very interesting analysis. I was already adopting "the new technique" proposed by this channel and my stroke still keeps improving. Butterfly is the stroke where you really feel the water. Swimming in full harmony with the water and in a relax mode is the key for a successful performance.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

We agree!

@AlejandroRmz35 5 лет назад

Thanks for doing and showing us this kind of videos where you present cientific analysis and evidence for the arguments you defend. From now on I will implement this technique caracteristic with my swimmers and myself. Great Job!!

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

You are most welcome, Jorge. Check out all of our videos in Lanes 2, 3 and 4 on our website, theraceclub.com

@davidgodinez8798 5 лет назад

Dr. Gary Sr. Thanks so much. I will begin to implement with my group at practice today

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Great! We hope it went well!

@user-qm6up7kz4n 5 лет назад

Thank you! You are the best swimming youtube channel

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Thank you for watching! We appreciate the feedback.

@bobsmoot8454 3 года назад

Talk about the nuances of stroke technique, I was told by a fellow swimmer to tuck the chin, but never heard the neck extension as being an element. Thanks to the coaches and the two young ladies for demonstrating that head position is so important.

@theraceclub 3 года назад

In fly, the neck/head goes through nearly a full range of motion from complete extension (forward) to nearly full flexion (downward). Helps keep the shoulders down and gain more kinetic energy for coupling with the down kick.

@ikkhan2581 5 лет назад

Wow 😮 great people with great techniques. My respect and appreciations from Germany 🇩🇪 ❤️. Thanks to help us swimmers with your guidance 🙏🏼. God bless you Sir !

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Bitteshon

@craig484 5 лет назад

Amazing analysis! I prefer the more scientific / evidence based videos :) please make more

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback! More will be coming out soon. Thanks for watching.

@matthewg8095 5 лет назад

This is really, really good stuff. Using facts, not just traditional opinions. Keep up the good work.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Thanks!! Will do.

@Born2BFly Год назад

Head position is so important. For me it’s the last piece of the 🦋 puzzle. So hard to coordinate. Thanks for the informative video. A blessing for us recreational swimmers who swim medleys for health and well-being.

@theraceclub Год назад

Glad we can help! Hope you subscribe to our Lane 2 or Lane 3 membership (www.theraceclub.com)

@alfredocalpito9439 4 года назад

Hello, your teaching is awesome and I appreciate the technical knowledge you brought to the sport...Alfie

@theraceclub 4 года назад

You are welcome, Alfie. I hope you can subscribe to our channels...Lanes 2, 3 or 4. www.theraceclub.com

@fredrickomega1457 5 лет назад

Thanks great coaches for the great work you are doing practically to teach other coaches and swimmers these good staff of swimming technique.... continue with the good job and your regards gonna be great

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

You are welcome, Frederick. You can find many more great webisodes on our subscription in Lanes 2 and 3 at www.theraceclub.com. Hope you will sign up!

@coachneffry2847 5 лет назад

Awesome video! Thanks for posting this. Will be sharing with my swimmers

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Glad we could help!

@abandeyamv 5 лет назад

Amazing analysis Incredible video, ive been very impressed with these in depth analyses.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Thanks!!

@tolikb8701 5 лет назад

Incredible video, ive been very impressed with these in depth analyses. I personally have always felt that it is better to keep head in line because I felt like jutting the chin out made my upper body go out more (hips lower). Do you think this is normal and is worth it, or was I just doing it wrong? Thanks

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Thanks. Our studies seem to indicate the opposite. Keeping the head in alignment will result in the upper body coming out of the water more. The coupling effect of the elevated body coming down is greater, but so is the frontal drag. In the end, keeping shoulders lower seems to be better. In other words, use your head.

@youwouldbetterfuckme 3 года назад

Amazing and extremely insightful video. I am glad I found this as it pull some scientific approach into physical excercises.

@theraceclub 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@marilynstrube4970 4 года назад

This made a huge difference for me. I get so much more momentum coming out of the water with the head movement! Thank you!!!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

You are welcome! You can find many more great tips on our website at www.theraceclub.com. Lane 3 has our complete library of hundreds of videos and articles.

@alisontamswimming4677 4 года назад

Thanks for this! Looking to cut my times down with this technique!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Hope you can! Check out all our videos! Become a member of Lane 2 or Lane 3 at www.theraceclub.com.

@AMADYTB 5 лет назад

Wonderful work !

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Thank you! Check out over 175 other excellent videos in Lane 3 of our subscription. Www.theraceclub.com.

@user-si9nt6wd3s 4 года назад

Very helpful ! Thank you ^^

@theraceclub 4 года назад

You are welcome! Hope you will subscribe to our subscriptions channel Lane 2 or Lane 3. Lots more great videos there.

@gabeo.731 4 года назад

I'm not a swimmer, my boys are , I will pay more attentions to their necks now, Good stuff, Thanks!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Thanks. Hope you will subscribe to our channel. Lane 3 (www.theraceclub.com) now has over 175 videos like this one.

@mykolazhyvytskyi2720 Год назад

Gorgeous video

@theraceclub Год назад

Thank you! Cheers!

@tigerwho99 5 лет назад

I'm still practicing butterfly stroke, thank you very much for this technique.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Thank you for watching. Check out Lane 2 of our website at theraceclub.com for more great info!

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

You are welcome!

@caroleverjoy 4 года назад

Very useful!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Glad you think so!

@fturla 5 лет назад

As far as my experience, moving the neck up and down on strokes feels as if I get much more of an acceleration than trying to keep my head aligned to my body.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

In our study and analysis we agree with you.

@daeunghwang 4 года назад

It is a helpful technique to swimming beginner!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Glad to help! Check out all of our great videos on Lanes 2 and 3 on our subscription service.

@nochos500 5 лет назад

Thanks for the analysis. You focus on peak acceleration and peak velocity, but how much of a difference was there in the average velocity over the whole swimming interval (maybe after first stroke to last stroke)? It seems like average speed is the most important factor. Also, which technique do you think uses more energy? Thanks!

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

You are right. Speed is the bottom line. Amanda's average velocity was 2.16 m/sec with a stiff neck and 2.28 m/sec with a moving head. She also did PB at Nationals using the moving head technique. I don't believe that the energy requirement to move the head quickly is enough to exhaust the swimmer.

@tomatomb8704 5 лет назад

Yes! Proof! I'm not a competitive swimmer but I happen to be a pretty good swimming teacher. I'm ok ish at Butterfly (learnt from "A Shaw way to FLY") really good go check it out. I had another teacher who used to race in the 1960 something olympics and kept telling me to keep my head still even though I find it way waaaaay harder. This makes me feel alot better about my style of fly!

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

You have it right.

@houtansadeghi Год назад

First I would like to congratulate you for your scientific approach and the consistent use of the metric system ( which is a lot more than what NASA did when they destroyed Mars Climate Orbiter) which shows the swimming community is more scientific than the space experts. I shall put this into practice in the pool next. Before I practice this one I’d like to practice the double kick fly. I was instructed the basic version in 1980. I always found this stroke fast for short distances of course!

@theraceclub Год назад

We do our best to use the data - thanks for the kind words! Good luck with the 2 kick fly!

@lillocosta1777 5 лет назад

I've a question for @therececlub: when I take breath on each stroke, I move my chin towards my chest (as suggested in this video) and the head contributes (in a decisive way) to the S-motion that characterises this stroke. The head gives an impulse to the start of the underwater motion and I can feel it. However, when I take breath once every two/three strokes, I feel like the head should keep a fixed position (chin close to the chest) till I decide to take breath and restart the cycle. In this case, when I don't lift my head above the water surface, I don't feel any impulse given to the stroke and I'm worried that maybe I'm not swimming correctly. Hope my question is clear enough. Thank you in advance!

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

During the non-breath strokes, the chin needs to come off the chest in order to generate more propulsion from the pull. But it should not come off very far to keep the frontal drag lower.

@Nik-oo6zb 5 лет назад

Can you make a statement for a swimmer who is breathing to the side?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

We'll take a look at it. We started with the chin tucked and the chin slightly off of the chest because those are the positions that we see the most. We have measured side breathing with our Velocity Meter and the numbers are significantly lower than either option in the video. However, a side breath does allow some fliers to keep their tempo higher and drag lower. Thanks for watching!

@rogerhuston8287 4 года назад

I learned butterfly 40 years ago and we were thought to snap our heads. For me, it just helped me keep flatter on taking my breath. Still, more things have changed than stayed the same. Good to see not everything is better. Go old farts!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

I am right there with you! Some things we got right.

@jjotinha 5 лет назад

Nice!!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

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@swimsmooth 5 лет назад

This is an excellent video Gary - really brilliant! Your objective findings are exactly what I've been coaching from a more subjective / empirical basis with the younger kids that I've been fortunate enough to voluntary work with at the local school here in Perth, Australia. It's very interesting to note, that of all the examples I use of great butterflyers who use the technique your results point towards are "correct" in most cases (and also fit the improvements I'm able to generate with the kids), the only anomaly I've really found and struggled to account for is the great Michael Phelps - wondering if you had any insight on that? The other interesting note to point out here is that what Gary has been able to show objectively is also the same movement pattern that you can see Adam Peaty demonstrate so well in the breaststroke which we affectionately refer to with the kids as the "Adam Peaty head-butt". Anyway, love what you're doing and hope we can maybe meet at some point down the line!

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Thank you. You guys do great stuff as well. I am not quite certain why so many people think that Phelps did not use his head in fly, but he did. He extends the neck almost fully for the breath and then flexes it very near his chest on the way down. Phelps is an 'early breath' butterflyer, as opposed to Joseph Schooling and Jack Conger (late breath), and seemed to hold his head above water in the forward position forever....thanks to his strong legs. Yes, and we also teach breaststroke like Peaty and King have demonstrated, using the head as a weapon!

@DonostiGros 5 лет назад

Truly insightful and helpful. Fly is my weakest stroke and will definitely incorporate this in training. Thank you!

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

This will definitely help! Thanks for watching.

@arianamoyav 3 года назад

This page is really good😨

@theraceclub 3 года назад

Thanks Ariana! hope you will join our Lane 3 membership. theraceclub.com/product/race-club-memberships/?attribute_lane=3&attribute_subscription=

@ugljobrijez 9 месяцев назад

Wow! It's so good to hear and see scientifically proven facts. I have the same problem with head position while swimming freestyle. Did you maybe analyze that matter?

@theraceclub 9 месяцев назад

We’ve done tons of analysis on freestyle head position. You can find a video or 2 here on RU-vid. All of content is available to lane 3 members so if you choose to sign up just search “freestyle head position” in our search bar to find it all… this would be a good video to start out with: theraceclub.com/video/classroom-head-position-in-freestyle/

@stefanichakarova4215 5 лет назад

I don't know english very well,so i didn't understand which way is faster with the head to the chest or more relaxed?

@theraceclub 4 года назад

More relaxed, moving the head.

@markcracknell6796 4 месяца назад

Great video. Is it possible to say what percentage s fifty fly time will come down by, with these kind if improvements in oeak acceleration and oeak velocity

@theraceclub 4 месяца назад

What keeps fly times from reaching freestyle times is that the stroke doesn't take advantage of inertia. With just two down kicks per stroke cycle and both arms pulling at the same time, there is just too much fluctuation in the swimmer's speed to stay with freestyle. WR will come down in 50's but by hundredths of seconds...and rarely by tenths of seconds.

@Gotteskind17 2 года назад

Well,you know how the saying goes If you want a thing done well do it yourself. If you want a thing incredibly done ,give it to Coach Gary.

@theraceclub 2 года назад

You are too kind!!!

@Gotteskind17 Год назад

@@theraceclub 🥰🇧🇷

@borrlaksen9325 5 лет назад

Life would be a waisted one without swimming.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

We agree! Hope you can hop in one of our Lanes, 2 3 or 4 for all of our great webisodes.

@ztian5624 5 лет назад

Really want to know how it goes with breaststroke which seems much more tricky for me = =

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Stay tuned! We did a similar test with head position for breaststroke as well.

@ricardomartinez9895 4 месяца назад

Hello! This is a very good study with significant results. I also have a question, as I am watching videos of Michael Phelps, I can see he did not use this technique. Then, I am a bit confused about the right technique. Can you clarify this ? As I am training alone , I would use your results but I don't know why Michael was using other technique. Thank you.

@theraceclub 3 месяца назад

Actually, Michael tucked his chin down very close to his chest at the time of hand entry, which is when the peak velocity from the second down kick occurs.

@dennisjo2128 5 лет назад

Thanks for your video. I have one question on head position when we do not breath, for example, when we do 50m butterfly. In that case, it is better for us to keep our head still or move it ?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Keep the head still but tuck it down toward your chest...not looking forward.

@snowpants2212 5 лет назад

What does "stiff neck" mean? The video contrasts the "active head" approach with a "stiff neck" one, but isn't another option to have a relatively inactive head and a relaxed/loose neck? If anything, the active head/extra neck flexion approach seems to require a stiffer neck (stiff in the chin-extended position on recovery, stiff in the chin-down position immediately afterward).

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

By stiff neck we mean very little motion of the head. It actually requires work to keep the neck in alignment with the body during the butterfly and also to move it forward and downward. This is more about the effect of the motion of the head, which weighs about 11 or 12 pounds.

@dcoughman 5 лет назад

I also tried it and I feel a definite improvement. Thank you! But what about on the non breathing strokes? Does the chin stay tucked or do you raise the head slightly?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

We like to keep the chin tucked on the non-breathing strokes. When the head is submerged even by a fraction under the surface, you completely eliminate frontal-drag.

@dcoughman 5 лет назад

@@theraceclub That makes sense but then I was thinking that you might not be taking advantage of the coupling motion of the head going back up and then down the same way as on the breathing strokes.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

The chin should come off the chest some on the non-breathing strokes, simply because you will get more propulsion from the arms by arching (extending) the lower back. Just don't come off too far.

@user-fp2sb9on1w 3 года назад

It's so beautiful form/~♥️

@theraceclub 3 года назад

Thank you! 😊

@shrawanrai542 Год назад

thank you so much for the info. sir. sir do we have to exhale the air when our head is inside the water or when it is outside ?

@theraceclub Год назад

You're welcome and thanks for watching! Exhale most of your air through your nose when your head is underwater. Exhale the last bit of air out of your mouth when you go to take a breath.

@nikoladze77 5 лет назад

Does this actually mean that undulating starting point in butterfly kick should be significantly shifted from sternum (bottom of the rib cage) to the upper thoracic/ neck spine area? If this is a case, don't you think that swimmer is actually more susceptible to the some degree of neck injury or strain? In my opinion core muscles are much stronger and flexible than head/neck muscles which now are taking a bigger load in producing that powerful kick. Kind regards and thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

The upper body or chest should move up and down and there must be hip flexion in order to get any up kick propulsion. You just don't want to elevate the upper body too much. You want the head to take on a more exaggerated motion than the upper body. These are non-traumatic motions and will not cause neck injury.

@derpasaurusrecks5464 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for releasing this video! As an aspiring D1 swimmer and butterflier, this is such a helpful video! I was wondering if you would recommend this head positioning for all distances of fly or more so for the 50 and the 100?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

I think it is a good position to have whether taking the breath or not, though the chin will lift off the chest some during the underwater pull for greater propulsion. We found 4% less drag with the chin tucked down vs off the chest in alignment with the body.

@liukang85 3 года назад

9:55 "... help use the weight of my head to propel myself forward." I think this might a key sentence here to help understand why tucking the hin in might help. I take it it's about tucking the chin in only, not raising the head even more (because you are talking about head movement in general a lot of the time)?

@theraceclub 3 года назад

For the breath extend the neck all the way forward, but keep the shoulders down . That way you can snap the head all the way down without causing excessive frontal drag.

@ajaxcatch 3 года назад

Reducing that 45 angle versus drag is one parameter. However i speculate that the flatter you become the harder it is to get the core and hence body to push on the arms. So by going to flat it forces you to have to use more arm/shoulder than body core to generate power so thats a negative compromise. Look at milaks angle underwater. He looks flat above but on the rare underwaters hes not. You can check but i think he was very 45. But you can see the drive coming from the body core and emanating out into the arms and legs. I think the key is the timing to get the whipping counter between the second kick and the arm pull through. One is squeezing against the other. The whole body is pushing on the arms and the kick helping that push/squeeze. And the squeeze between the 2 is the power generator. But they have to coincide at termination. And it starts by feeling the legs acting as a point of balance before the whip Phelps coach states it clearly in his vid and phelps demonstrates it beautiful under water. Iv probabaly confused everyone There is 1000 details but i think the easiest way is to get the big concept correct, and then the little details the swimmer has to figure out with feel through repetition.

@theraceclub 3 года назад

All strokes, including fly, involve compromises between the drag and propulsion forces and the positions that reach the greatest speed.

@user-on3hw2ti5e 5 лет назад

Perfectly

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Thanks!

@trainwithross7091 5 лет назад

Would you recommend the same technique for breaststroke to keep creating undulation?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Yes. We believe that the head in breaststroke snapping down can provide powerful coupling energy for the kick

@gdeangelkick 4 года назад

So where do we get the rotational sensor to hook up to the fishing reel to make the "velocity meter", and is that real time analysis from software, or did you just run some excel plots? Frankly I'm a little skeptical about this advice which comes off like a prescription for every fly swimmer. The fact is that the leg is a lever and in that second kick, it is generating an angular acceleration of the center of mass. By tucking the head, the center of mass moves in, and to conserve the angular momentum, the body must rotate faster. Not everybody has the same rotational geometry in their fly. It's interesting that a lot of fairly successful fly swimmers at the age group level have what I call "whale" body shape, so that their center of mass is relatively non-rotational (and very buoyant). Sure, they are not up there are super-mega-world-class elite, but the point is that you have to qualify what you are observing to the facts of this swimmer's body. Also there is an assumption here that the engine can run at maximum rev's in low gear for an entire race without blowing a gasket. That is a HUGE assumption. Nobody uses first gear for an entire bike race. So if you train on maximum acceleration mode all the time, and they you screw up your back or neck, what good is it?

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Our Pressure Meter technology which measures body rotational speed (and distance), along with the pressure on the front and back of the hand, can be used in conjunction with the Velocity meter Technology, which measures velocity, acceleration and deceleration....all in real time, synched to video. We test over several strokes at race speed which is about 100 meter race speed. The speed of body rotation couples with the propulsion of the pulling hand or kicking feet to augment the propulsion.

@cathrynsalladin4095 4 года назад

Is this chin tucked technique better achieved by pressing chin to chest as if looking down farther, or is it achieved by drawing chin to chest as if making a double chin, so to speak?

@theraceclub 4 года назад

The chin should get tucked down to near (not to) the chest during the arm recovery. After the hands are in the water, at the completion of the second down kick, the chest presses downward with the hip flexion and the chin comes off the chest. When it elevates completely depends on the technique of early breath or late breath butterfly.

@Coach_K_Swim 4 года назад

Throwing this out there. There are many variables in this test that could alter the results and I do not think we can draw a conclusion about the head/neck motion when we cannot account for the pattern being pulled underwater. In these videos, you can see a very different catch and pull patter amongst these women.

@theraceclub 4 года назад

With Amanda (as with other athletes) our Velocity Meter technology enables us to measure velocity, acceleration and deceleration every .02 seconds. So we can tell exactly what is happening during the different techniques. Each athlete is different, so you are right in not generalizing. For most athletes the snapping of the head down increases the propulsion from the second down kick, leading to more acceleration.

@vivianadzibe6660 4 года назад

Me gustaría que tuviera subtítulo en español. Me cuesta trabajo la técnica de mariposa, la aplicación de ejercicios me gustaría para principiantes

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Hola Viviana. Estamos en proceso de traducir nuestros videos. En el ano que viene, esperamos ofrecer todo en espanol.

@markwallman4219 Год назад

A great vid. In my masters club my coaches tell me snapping my head down is making me go too deep, does anyone have any tips for this? Best

@theraceclub Год назад

Don't over flex the hip but get the chin down. Don't press your chest down...just your chin

@markwallman4219 Год назад

@@theraceclub thanks for that !!

@ijhart708 5 лет назад

How can I breath less I have to breath every stroke or I will start choking also my glides are short

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Don't stop breathing often learn how to breath efficiently.

@shimmergalaxymarlynne693 3 года назад

I’m just wondering how to do butterfly does send help out with your butterfly because what I am having trouble with is keeping my feet in the water

@theraceclub 3 года назад

Feet should break the surface on the down kick...but not by too much!

@gloriastellacifuenesramos4637 4 года назад

Un carajo de ingles. Pero trato de atar cabos y por el video trato de informarme, y entender, la explicación. Gracias.

@theraceclub 4 года назад

De nada. Baja la cabeza completamente hacia el pecho cuando entran los manos en el aqua.

@Chinetti35 5 лет назад

Hello Gary, make a same video for backstroke ☺

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

We will have a backstroke video out soon on our subscription service only on our website... sign up for Lane 2 and check it out!

@Chinetti35 5 лет назад

😊

@andrewvelykorodnyi2759 5 лет назад

Need your videos.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

@maxgluteus4263 Год назад

Scientific!

@theraceclub Год назад

Science is fun... and quite helpful as it turns out :)

@vigo_van_beneden2419 Месяц назад

and if you dont breath in 1 stroke, do you still need to tuck in while doing the stroke without breath?

@theraceclub Месяц назад

Yes.

@aidanwagner118 5 лет назад

How do you keep from tiring quickly when swimming fly? When I swim a 100 I get really tired and my stroke falls apart at the final 8 meters. I’m probably just out of shape because I have been able to hold it and get a 1:14 but when I lose it my time drops to around 1:20. Any advice?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Work on your legs, Aidan. The legs will keep you going in fly. Without them, you are a sinking ship. Also try not to over-elevate the shoulders for the breath. Let your neck do the lifting.

@aidanwagner118 5 лет назад

theraceclub ok thanks

@swimwithcoachraven1532 5 лет назад

Some breath produces drag some breath flies you forward. Your eyes are in the head. Head movement is only when breath is in the low

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Lifting the head up increases frontal drag...no matter what stroke.

@swimwithcoachraven1532 5 лет назад

theraceclub Agree still breathing is a necessity. If your breath can take it the body can do it. 10 years for full mastery everyday in water

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Yes..it takes time and a lot of work!

@kdongyoo5481 5 лет назад

So..which one is the best chin & head position?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

The chin on the surface during the breath and then tucked to the chest after the breath yields significantly higher results in most swimmers we test. This was the case with National Champ Amanda Kendall as well, and is the fly she uses now.

@teukumuhammadhafizh1490 5 лет назад

Phelps thecnique is the best

@James_swim_technique_coach 6 месяцев назад

is that just from the coupling?

@theraceclub 6 месяцев назад

Having a low breath will help from a drag perspective,. The timing & the speed with which you tuck your chin after the breath will be important from a coupling perspective! Hope that answers your question!

@himanshusparikh 4 года назад

Which is better, Second kick then pull or First pull then second kick ?

@theraceclub 4 года назад

The first down kick should occur during the pull when the hands are near the belly button. The second down kick should occur exactly when the hands enter the water.

@himanshusparikh 4 года назад

@@theraceclub Thank you very much

@robertharrison8762 5 лет назад

major problem with this. the peak acceleration is with the hydrodynamic position of having the head tucked but if u look at the graph it shows much bigger dips when the head has to move all the way up through the water. causing much more drag than the parallel position that the likes of michael phelps and caeleb dresses use/used. you might also notice that these guys are the fastest flyers in history.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Phelps actually extends and flexes his neck tremendously during his stroke cycle. The trough of the deceleration curves represent the peak of frontal drag and the peak of acceleration curves represent the peaks of propulsion. There is considerably more acceleration with the head movement. When testing frontal drag in the passive position of head down versus in alignment, we found the head tucked down causes 4% less frontal drag with hands at sides and 9% less drag in streamline position.

@philipmurphy7445 4 года назад

theracecl

@kyxxpark 4 года назад

So, the point is tuck your chin to chest. right??

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Almost. Come very close to the chest on the way down.

@joesr31 5 лет назад

oh wow, been swimming butterfly for years not never knew this. In fact, always thought the opposite was true since our coach sometimes told us to swim while holding a tennis ball under our chin thus restricting the movement. When I push out my chin, I feel like the back of my head is pushing my body down creating some tension around my neck but not moving it feels more relaxing and alined with my spine

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

There is less work involved in holding a 'still' head position than by moving it from one extreme position to another (flexion to extension). We have found that you will accelerate faster on the second down kick by moving the head quickly.

@CoachLorin Год назад

My observation across all strokes, not just Fly, is "all the backwards facing muscles tend to work together." And not in a good way when the back of the neck is tight. A tight neck results in lower back tightness (so arching), then often tight glutes and hamstrings. And since kicking primarily follows the angle of the hips, a curved lower spine can adversely affect kicking. The back of the neck most frequently is the initiating culprit ... the first to act in this cause-and-effect domino-ing of posture issues. I see these reactions in this video. At timestamps 4:04 and 5:44, the back of Amanda's neck is engaged, and we see her lower is back arched. At ts 6:12 when she is bringing her chin closer to her chest, we see much less lower back arch. If we imagined her on dry land standing, she would now have a dancer's great posture ... tall. Think ballerinas. So her entire body is now fitting into a smaller diameter tube as she attacks forward.

@theraceclub Год назад

Great observations/perspective Lorin, I'd like to add that lower back arch isn't necessarily a bad thing. For example, in the case of the butterfly, if an athlete has good mobility in their lower back, a greater arch (during recovery) should actually allow them to take less drag forces during their breath because they're able to keep their feet more "in-line" with their body vortex. But in this case, at the very end of the recovery, the "ballerina" or "small tube" analogy works great, because this position is happening immediately after peak acceleration (e.g. when we want to have as little drag as possible). Thanks for your thoughts!

@i1024getCA 5 лет назад

The moment I saw those webbed swimming flippers, I was like: NOPE, I ain't watching this!

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Haha! At least you made it that far!

@ashishtomar289 4 года назад

Hey Garry!..What is the correct way of finishing the pull in fly??. One has to pull water towards feet or towards hips??.. Thank You..

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Keep pushing the hands straight backwards as long as possible. Then release the hands with relaxed wrists and little fingers upward to reduce drag.

@twobeatkick_swim 5 лет назад

As before I wonder if this would be true for Breaststroke?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Yes, we believe so.

@twobeatkick_swim 5 лет назад

@@theraceclub Many thanks ...even in my own geriatric well past my sell by date 58 years old (... older I as better I used to be) breaststroke I find being consciously still with the head and eyes down rather uncomfortable and just letting the neck loosen is much more comfortable and makes me feel more fluid. Lochte and Phelps and Le Clos all seem to look forwards in Fly on the breath and use the head as a driving force down. I do some coaching as a Total Immersion coach and am not dealing with elites but one day would love to come out and watch you work for a week if that were a possibility? I am UK based.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

We charge a camp fee for coaches to attend our camp, unless they are accompanying a paying swimmer. We also include 1 hr of consultation at the end of the camp to answer any and all coach's questions. You can also attend as a Masters swimmer and learn from being in the water.

@swimwithcoachraven1532 3 года назад

I can do a fly 25m in 12 Sec. The next 25m would be endurance and maintaining breath. Without taking a breath you a faster. Without changing the body curve much you are consistently hitting the target every stroke

@theraceclub 3 года назад

Yes SR is faster without breathing. Speed is about the same with and without the breath when SR is same (SR is stroke rate).

@uw_foto 4 года назад

In Korean summary. Thanks for your passion and sharing. 기술은 수영선수들이 더 빨리 수영하도록 돕는 훌륭한 도구가 될 수 있다. 레이스 클럽에서 우리는 모든 수영선수들이 새로운 기술인 속도계를 사용하여 더 빨리 수영할 수 있는 좋은 기회가 있다고 느낀다. 최근, 국가대표팀의 멤버이자 세계적인 접영 선수인 "아만다 켄달"은 그녀의 코치인 인디애나, 수영과 다이빙의 코리 스티켈스와 함께 벨로시티 미터(VM)와 압력 미터(PM) 테스트를 위해 레이스 클럽에 왔다. VM는 비디오에 동기화된 속도, 가속도 및 감속을 측정한다. 그녀의 VM 테스트를 하면서, 나는 아만다에게 그녀의 접영 기술을 약간 바꿔서 테스트할 수 있는지 물었다. 그녀는 동의했다. 그녀의 정상적인 기법은 숨을 쉬는 동안 머리 위치를 상체와 거의 일직선으로 유지시켜 목에 거의 움직임이 없게 하는 것이었다. 우리는 그녀의 정상적인 수영 기술을 사용하여 그녀를 테스트한 다음 숨을 쉴 수 있도록 목을 좀더 완전히 뻗고 숨을 쉰 후 그녀의 가슴까지 목을 완전히 구부려 훨씬 더 많은 머리 운동을 하게 해달라고 부탁했다. 그녀는 실제로 그런 적이 없었다. 아만다는 이 비디오에서 가르친 새로운 수영 기술을 이용하여 57.8의 PR에서 100m 접영을 했다. 1년 전에 VM와 유사한 '헤드인 얼라인먼트' 접영 기술을 사용하여 테스트한 켈시 워렐 달리아와 비교했을 때, 우리는 그녀의 새로운 수영 기술로 아만다가 호흡 후 두 번째 다운 킥에서 가속도가 더 높다는 것을 발견했다.

@theraceclub 4 года назад

You are welcome! Thanks for watching.

@jacobtindall7851 6 месяцев назад

The Lord showed this to me for a reason😀😀😀

@theraceclub 6 месяцев назад

The Lord speaks to us in many ways!

@mrt2895 Год назад

why complicate the testing?? how a stopwatch is not sufficient to prove one technique over the other?? great work non the less

@theraceclub Год назад

We can see and learn so much more with these testing modalities (it takes out a lot of the guess work). Stopwatches are great but won't give you the full picture of why one technique is better than another for a given athlete!

@bansAfricaUG 4 года назад

am improving on my fly

@theraceclub 4 года назад

Great to hear! check out all of our videos on Lanes 2 and 3 on www.theraceclub.com

@sickoid87 5 лет назад

What about 50 fly sprints when you are not breathing at all? Do you have to snap the head to your chest in that case?

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Good question! If you aren't breathing you want to leave your head submerged in order to reduce surface drag. If you decide to breathe make sure you're snapping your head down!

@Arsenlupen249 Год назад

@@theraceclub Does this mean that in 50meter your head stay submerged with chin close to chest or no ?

@fysh1945 5 лет назад

What about breathing every stroke vs. every other? Phelps was an every stroke guy. My coach forced me to breath every other, and I hated the oxygen debt it created.

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

Elite men tend to breath every cycle while most elite women breath every other. The difference is in the rate of lactate production, which is greater in males. Of note, Sara Sjostrom breathes every other for the first 30 meters and then every cycle all the rest of her 100 meters. I prefer the oxygen as well, with a lower profile breath

@agnesakne4409 3 года назад

I tried this technique and broke Milaks record

@theraceclub 3 года назад

Congratulations!

@agnesakne4409 3 года назад

@@theraceclub nice comment hall senior

@ijhart708 5 лет назад

and I'm out here swimming 30sec 50 fly haha

@ijhart708 5 лет назад

I so slow compared to these girls

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

That is not bad! Hope you get faster with our recommended technique.

@jordanwebster181 Год назад

I’ve learned this the hard way 2 fly splits 53 1:03 🤣🤣🤣

@theraceclub Год назад

Hey at least you learned it!

@jordanwebster181 Год назад

@@theraceclub do a video on the kick with butterfly and timing

@davejordan1458 4 года назад

The butterfly stroke is bad for your health.

@theraceclub 4 года назад

It is a tough stroke...that is for sure!

@ZoioGame 5 лет назад

too few evidences if you want to prove with a scientific way

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

You are right. However, we have found a similar result in other swimmers we have tested. If you fund a research project for us, we will test as many as you can afford for good statistical analysis.

@ijhart708 5 лет назад

How can I breath less I have to breath every stroke or I will start choking also my glides are short

@theraceclub 5 лет назад

You need to breathe more in the 200 fly, less in the100 fly and very little or none in the 50 fly.