Head-To-Head NACS Adapter: Ford Vs A2Z Typhoon!

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With Tesla now allowing Ford and Rivian customers to use its Supercharger network in North America - and more models due in the coming months - there's a lot of interest in available CCS Type 1 to NACS adapters.
And, having just got our hands on Ford's official NACS adapter (as designed and manufactured with Tesla), we decided to pit it against the A2Z Typhoon adapter!
Here are our thoughts, and why we think either would be a great pick in your charging arsenal.
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00:00 - Introduction
03:08 - Unboxing - Ford NACS Adapter
06:14 - Unboxing A2Z Typhoon NACS Adapter
09:25 - Using - Ford NACS adapter
14:15 - Charging With A2Z Typhoon NACS Adapter
16:08 - Comparing both side by side - who are they for?
17:38 - The cost of Supercharging is going up!
18:55 - Closing thoughts
20:08 - Thanks, and Goodbye!
Links:
Buy Ford's Adapter: www.ford.com/support/how-tos/...
Buy A2Z Typhoon Adapter: a2zevshop.com/products/nacs-c...
Watch our Video on Supercharger Etiquette: • Using Tesla Supercharg...
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Presenter, Script, Audio: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield
Camera, Editor, Colorist: M. Horton
Art and Animation: Erin Carlie
Producer: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield
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@jeraldgooch6438 21 день назад

Love the rooster in the background.

@thomasramos7164 20 дней назад

As a note, UL guideline's order of operation recommends that if you are using an adapter after stopping the charging session, you'll disconnect first the supply cable connector from the adapter while the adapter is still connected to the car's charging port and then disconnect the adapter from your vehicle's charging port. I believe Tom Moloughney from the "State of Charge" RU-vid Channel mentions this in one of his videos also.

@JohnRoss1 21 день назад

Basically the adapter only swaps the positive and negative DC pins and (perhaps) network pins to match the supercharger handle. The rest of the "magic" is dependant on Tesla reprograming the (V3) supercharger for the OEM .

@MrDRSMAX 20 дней назад

That's helpful to know. I've wondered what would happen if I tried one of these on my Kia Niro. Seems obvious now that it just wouldn't work.

@PaulBarwick 21 день назад

Thank you! I received my A2Z connector a couple of days ago and had trouble getting it to work while testing it. Your video showed me where I was going wrong. BTW was that you in your Lghtning towing that trailer, like in the lead up shot on this video charging in Chehalis/Centralia WA near the Walmart the other day? If so, I am kicking myself for not turning around a going back to check and say "hi"

@markhulett6129 21 день назад

Re cost: EA is currently $.56/kwh, which is more than what you stated at the SC station price you quoted. EVCS at the coast is .49/kwh recently

@Robert_McShouty 21 день назад

It changes based on county. Within a 35 minute drive I have Chargepoints that charge anywhere from $.13 to $.39 per kWh and EA's that charge $.48 to $.58 per kWh.

@Russwig 20 дней назад

370... Wow, that's a lot of info! Well done Nikki! Keep Evolving!!!

@FameyFamous 21 день назад

Any news about the Tesla charging group staff? Are a lot of the former Tesla people working for competing charge providers? Which companies? Is anyone working on charging at Tesla? As a Bolt driver, I wonder if anyone at Tesla is collaborating with GM on adapters and supercharger access or if they were all laid off.

@jpatche 21 день назад

Was hesitant to by a non ford adapter. Thanks for the very informative video.

@mach1nefan 21 день назад

Really well shot and edited video, hopefully this one racks up a good few views! Looking forward to TEN on Sunday :-)

@Yanquetino 21 день назад

I like the Typhoon adapter. The reviews seem to indicate that it is a solid, robust unit, like my A2Z Stellar J1772 adapters. I just hope A2Z will also release its Supercharger extension cable in the near future to solve the problem with short cables and different charging port locations. Tesla's website states: "Coming Spring 2024: General Motors, Volvo, Polestar." Ummm… so… over the next 6 days those automakers' EVs will also be authorized to use NACS adapters, right? RIGHT…?

@matthewbaynham6286 21 день назад

The problem is the reason why CCS is unreliable is going to move over the NACS. CCS is unreliable because no one company is developing everything, the cars are all developed by different manufacturers, the charging stations are all developed by different manufacturers, and the payment has so many variations as well. When NACS was just Tesla it didn't have this problem, but it will have this exact same problem. Anyway I prefer what the EU did in just forcing one charging standard on everyone, it's just much simpler for everyone (except for the second hand Nissan LEAF market).

@canis9178 21 день назад

Good to see these are available although the cost is excessive.

@tomrossman9371 21 день назад

Nickk-NACS, paddywhack, give your Ford a bone...

@greatpix 21 день назад

If large vehicles take up more than one space at charging stations shouldn't there be an etiquette for those drivers to pick the farthest charger on the right or left so they don't intrude on other drivers ability to hook up to a charger? Which side would depend on the location of the charging port on the vehicle. I'm seen drivers block other drivers ability to reach a charger because of the size of their vehicle or when they are towing a trailer of some sort. In those cases etiquette should dictate they unhook their trailer in order to charge. Sometimes those drivers will stop their charging to let others charge, then go back to charging when it's less busy. Those are the good drivers.

@rossr6616 21 день назад

Nice Job Nikki

@patrick7228 21 день назад

Great vid. Thanks. Will be interesting to see how long it takes for other brands to get access given the shakeup.

@thomasfriedmann8522 21 день назад

Great content.

@jakthebomb 21 день назад

The V4 Supercharger in Wilsonville is 20 cents per kWh 24/7 for Teslas, they charge more for non-teslas.

@danielmadar9938 19 дней назад

Thanks

@cpear760 20 дней назад

Is there a video explaining why charging stations don't have overhangs like gas pumps do? Seems like a charging station would have even more need to be out of the weather than a pump. And despite the cost, I'm leaning towards the Ford-Tesla adapter over the A2Z. But hey, I think having options will bring the price down.

@greatpix 21 день назад

Question: Are the top locking levers on both models metal/plastic? Same with the little tabs that come up to lock the charger in place and the bottom switch cover. I ask because if these are plastic I believe they may not last as long as ones made of metal (quality of metal and beefiness of parts counts too, I guess)

@randycarter2001 21 день назад

The problem with the SAE J1772 standard. The SAE didn't restrict the location of the charge port. So automakers put it wherever they felt was good. Now you have to park in wonky positions in order to plug in at a supercharger and may even have to use an extension cord.

@PaulBarwick 21 день назад

have you found a source for a DCFC extension cord? I would consider buying a short one if I knew where to get one.

@randycarter2001 21 день назад

@@PaulBarwick I've seen a NACS extension cord but I don't think it's capable of DCFC.

@oldgeeksguide 21 день назад

I don't see that as a problem. For one thing, if they did an overly restrictive rule like that, they'd probably pick the wrong place for it (like not putting it on the curb side of the car), plus it would be very restrictive for design. If car makers want to particularly be compatible with tesla chargers, they could put it on the passenger side front of the car, or just on front or back of the car, but I don't think there is a clear best place to put it nor is that something a plug standard should be dictating.

@PaulBarwick 21 день назад

@@randycarter2001 Yep. I don't think that they make such a beast.

@patreekotime4578 20 дней назад

@@oldgeeksguide Yeah, itll be interesting to see if Ford's next gen vehicles put it on the other side.

@chriscranford6229 21 день назад

We got our A2Z a few days ago . The Company was more profestional than lectron. Dose the electricity smell like gasoline? I think not.

@JohnJay-yd9hr 20 дней назад

Ah the smell of ozone after an arc fault is wonderful and fleeting.

@jeffreymerriam7025 21 день назад

I was really hoping to hear what Jim Farley had to say. :) 😄

@chrisbuczeksmith8289 20 дней назад

Well done video. I kept looking out my window to find the rooster until you mentioned yours. Does ford precondition automatically and use its route planner to find chargers on the way to your destination - now including superchargers? The Tesla road trip experience is made worry free due to the supercharger network and the intelligent built in routing which knows where they are, knows what’s available, and automatically preps the car by preheating the battery to take a fast charge. Software integration is more than half the experience - how is ford doing on that experience?

@transportevolved 20 дней назад

Ford is including preconditioning…

@chrisbuczeksmith8289 20 дней назад

Is the integration well done? Even more than gas cars the electric cars integration becomes the differentiator. I’ll go look for more reviews of it.

@cyberoptic5757 21 день назад

Is there any enthusiasm for testing a Chademo adaptor? Chademo to CCS or Chademo to NACS. Am I the only one interested ?

@transportevolved 21 день назад

We have plans to test a CCS to CHAdeMO adaptor, but because you require a manufacturer agreement to use the Tesla network at the moment CHAdeMO to NACS isn't going to work on the US network at least. ^Kate

@todkapuz 20 дней назад

I really wish ford would send me the OTA to allow plug and charge with Tesla.... I am still waiting, even though they have sent me the adapter already... plug and charge works fine on EA.

@stefanweilhartner4415 21 день назад

car manufacturers could implement both at the same time directly next to each other. that would not be too expensive. or order the version that you like to have.

@kensmith5694 21 день назад

I like the 2 ports idea. It wouldn't cost that much to do.

@chrisbuczeksmith8289 20 дней назад

Lone standard. In the USA that is now NACS. I’d expect to see the other adapters die out over the next 5 years first becoming uncommon then rare.

@davidreadbikes 20 дней назад

Why would there be a difference in cost of the same charge session if using an adapter?

@angusbartlett9270 18 дней назад

Charging curves have higher charging speeds at lower battery capacity, they got more kw added at the start of the session then at the end.

@acidburnforever 21 день назад

Do you think they will work on, for example, an evgo in case a ccs is not working or is broken. you could instead use the tesla one that evgo has? I've been to many charging stations that have all 3 connectors and the ccs is usually down while the other 2 are in working conditions. This would help a bunch if it works for other chargers that aren't tesla. Thank you 😊 keep evolving!

@onekopaka 21 день назад

Right now those Tesla ones at EVgo as far as I've seen are an integrated CHAdeMO to Tesla adapter so these adapters won't work there, but when other networks like EVgo have J3400 these adapters would work.

@Joshcom88 21 день назад

What about NACS to CCS to CHAdeMO to charge a LEAF, Soul or iMiev? I'd love to see either of those 3 vehicles charging at a Tesla Supercharger... Is this possible?

@patreekotime4578 20 дней назад

I think its a software issue less than a plug issue.

@craig8638 21 день назад

How do you know which Tesla superchargers you can use with the adapters?

@PygKLB 21 день назад

The Tesla Supercharger map distinguishes between the non-NACS superchargers (red circle with lightning bolt) and the NACS superchagers (red circle with NACS symbol). The superchargers with the Magic Dock adapter have a red circle with a bracketed lightning bolt.

@craig8638 21 день назад

@@PygKLB So Fords can charge at sites chargers with the red circle and picture of the NACS charger?

@GeoffreyAnderson2112 20 дней назад

Great vid, but can you wash your truck? (ducking, just kidding!)

@transportevolved 20 дней назад

Maybe! but then it’s unnecessary;)

@PandaKnight52 20 дней назад

G'Day algorithm comment

@DevAnubis 20 дней назад

Did this need to be 20 minutes long? Did it need to explain how to slot 2 bits of plastic together? Or when to press a button? It's just a lot of superfluous information...

@davidws5439 21 день назад

Nikki. Be careful, as you may catch 🔥 📛 if you touch the Tesla connector! 😊. The NACS connector is much better as AC and DC use the same small light weight handle.

@luisvelasco316 21 день назад

"Zee" not "Zed"?

@ksnax 18 дней назад

It remains super problematic how Tesla is slow walking access to their network regardless. There is zero technical reason not to open it up to many CCS models already produced, yet they are continuing to exploit exclusive agreements with OEMs for new vehicles vs. simply firing up their app to work for anybody that wants to use it. And frankly, owning a perfectly good EV that will last for decades, getting left in the dust on this absolutely pisses me off and amplifies the hate I have for Tesla and Musk specifically. It's Apple grade connector bullshit for cars.

@DaxVJacobson 21 день назад

Tesla prices are dynamic *people can join Tesla charging membership club and get the same rate that Tesla drivers get, seems weird you did not point that out* I've watched your struggles with finding working -fast- charging stations on your road trips in the years past, you seem to be as anti Tesla as you possibly can be. Did you remember to tell us the name of your Truck in this video, got to push NuTrek before it's all canceled the way STD was.

@transportevolved 21 день назад

This is a personal attack. Just a reminder, those aren’t welcome here. neither is transphobia or homophobia.

@patreekotime4578 20 дней назад

🙄 Rage watching isnt healthy or normal. Go find a different channel if you feel that way.