Headmaster Uses Avada Kedavra On Isidora Voldemort Fight Scene - Hogwarts Legacy (4K 60FPS) 2023 

The Protaganist: Can I add in massive blunt force trauma when I repeatedly smash them as hard as possible on the floor?

The ministry: yes

@@X360PHILNUMBR1 I forgot that one.

that was my case ALL the time people say it's forbidden but u can cast accio on a person and make the person fly against a walll crack their skull, spine and die withtin seconds totally fine but not instant death of avada kadrava.

@@dark3rthanshadows I transformed a guy into a red barrel, but realized he was the last enemy. So I used Wingardium Leviosa and maneuvered him above a ledge and let go. The same second he transformed back....

Agreed, irl highschools used to have competition shooting and rifle ranges... No school shootings back then

@@Romuluz369 Exactly!

A gun would be much quicker. The bch

No! Unforgivable.

look at lore members of other houses used the dark arts as well, just for defending against dark wizards. I feel like all magic is beneficial. It's only bad when it's used for bad.

and voldemort and his death eaters were the most merciful people

but it's unfair since it's impossible to defend agains't it. (or you have for some reason something like a statue on your way because normally you wouln't have time to do anything at all)

@@quannguyen-je8cl Unless your name is Snape. Then you get the Snake.

@@b.a.r.f1004 a duel isn't meant to be fair unless its a tournament sanctioned by the ministry, real duels are a fight for your life and playing fair is a very good way to get yourself killed unless your the protagonist

@@9manny99 or Bertha jorkins/the longbottoms where you get tortured into insanity and in Berthas case murdered right after.

They needed to stay that way, It’s the same argument for the second amendment- criminals will use them illegally anyway. It’s only the innocent that will suffer the consequences.

@@darkgenie3167 OK voldemoret. Aurors are allowed to use them under certain circumstances. But there is no reason to kill someone when a stunning spell works.

@@Grigsy if there is no reason then it wouldn’t have been created or used in the first place, there’s obviously a reason regardless if we want to acknowledge it or not. One glaring example was with isidora herself. Good luck stunning her when it’s already way too late for any compromise.

It wasn't necessary and Bakar hides his game well, this guy is just as dangerous as Isidora

​@trishasecondsistersapprent61 isidora was out of control a s beyond reason. She already killed Fitzgerald and stole the emotions of God knows how many students regular magic wasn't taking her down.

@@trishasecondsistersapprent61 i mean you could go back and forth on that but his cast was decisive and necessary. She was evil and powerful, and needed put down.

​@@j-wilkyand the worst thing about it is she didn't even realise what she was doing was so completely demented and horrifying. When I saw her father I was reminded of the Tranquil from the Dragon Age series. If you don't play it Tranquil are mages who have been permanently cut off from their abilities, and spend the rest of their lives not being able to use their magic, dream or feel any emotion.

​@@j-wilky No, no and no. She became powerful yes but not evil. Good intentions bad outcome. There's a difference. Not understanding that is the main problem. It seems the keepers lost the ability to reason and became quick to judge so they killed her instead just to have their selfish ways prevail in the end. What's the point of having ancient magic if not to make the most out of it? They don't understand the capacity of how far ancient magic can go and that which is unknown to them they simply fear it thus became judgmental of her for exploring it. She didn't kill anyone only experimented on them as any typical Ravenclaw would have in her position after witnessing such pain over and over just to test the limits. I understand some lines should never be crossed and perhaps she should have asked for permission to cast the spell on others first instead of freely doing so and maybe she did ask but the end result did not justify the means. She didn't have to die especially for being a healer not a killer. What makes it right for them to be judge, jury and executioner? They didn't have to gang up on her and try to back her into a corner by wanting to take her wand away. She being the defense teacher in all was most definitely going to defend herself. They the ones corrupted for not wanting the word of ancient magic to get out and what good it can do by embracing her accomplishments then leaving my character to keep their secret and clean up their mess of Ranrok uprising so they can get away with murder scott free no questions asked. They only focused on the negative and completely ignored the positives. Her pain extraction spell is incantation less and is not dark magic but healing magic, not an unforgivable curse but an unfathomable cure. Pain itself is a curse especially when it's unwelcomed by those who would have to suffer it for so long. The spell and how it was used is not that much different than how the memory extraction spell is used. Instead of pointing a wand at the temporal lobe and storing the memories in a pensive, a wand user of ancient magic simply point at the heart and pain is then extracted and stored in a repository as storage for ancient magic in the form of corrupted emotions. However, this now red ancient magic traces of corrupted emotions could be thought of as dark magic but simply isn't and while the Dark Arts had a bad reputation, overall, dark magic was not, by definition, "evil" magic, as reflected in some of the people using them not being evil. Dark magic could be used for good as well as evil. The keepers never seen it from that perspective but just instantly became wary of it. Too much of anything is never a good idea, True but absorbing the red ancient magic traces is not so different than consuming potions, especially the maxima and focus potions since it shares the same effects. Isadora said "it's a source of strength - of focus. It enhances my ability to wield magic" so it sems she created magical stimulants which is a good thing not bad but the keepers wouldn't understand that because as stubborn and hypocritical they are they ignored her and had no interest in learning what it is because of the standards of limitation they all set on themselves and expected her to follow the path of their secrets. She was very open minded and ready to teach them.

It's situational. She was clearly evil/insane. They're not dumb enough to lock him away for executing justice.

Well you can’t just use a cutting curse to kill people, that’s far too messy.

Wasn't considered unforgivable at that time, plus how is it any different from killing someone with diffindo or bombarda

@@10ReasonsWhy I found it amusing that the killing curse is so bad but cutting someone’s head off is ok 😂

in that ephoc Neither of the 3 unforgivable curses were unforgivables so thats why it didnt have any repercusions

@@maeror1022 hes talking about these characters specifically

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​@@xakune8357😂

She is not a dark wizard

turban king

Same, i felt it the moment she stepped in

I said “Ew why she look like that.”

Headmistress *

​@@perckmalice70 In this era Headmaster can be used for both men and women.

merlin's beard. you have a horrid imagination. i would love to read a book about this

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Good theory!

Completely agree.

@twerking bollocks plus this was like the first type of Harry Potter RPG game anyone had ever created. This game was a rousing success though so hopefully the sequel, if it happens, will be even better and have more content

@@christianastorga4555I think the ending was extremely disappointing. In the end your decision to use the power of the final repository (essentially the crux of the entire main story) has no bearing whatsoever on the events that proceed it. That was disappointing for me. Otherwise yes, phenomenal game.

@@thesnackbandit Yeah ending could've been better but as I said, first Harry Potter RPG game like this ever created. Hopefully the mistakes were learned

Yes

She only took away the pain that ability is why she started experimenting with it

Unfortunately, Isidora was more traumatized by the loss of her brother and her father's depression then she ever let on. The truth is, she never learned how to deal with sadness and grief, and wanted to just make it go away. This woman had absolutely no emotional maturity.

@@SnowyWolborgI agree. Mind you, she was a literal child when she first learned about this. The keepers were all in their careers and past their prime. They never tried to help her or help her understand her powers. It’s their fault just as much as it is hers. 😢

He *meant* it.

MEAN IT

His model even smiled lmao

The fact he spoke that spell, even I was disturbed

@@Epic11705 Reminder that this scene likely takes place in the early 1700s, far before the spells were unforgivable. Even in modern day Wizarding, it's likely the use of the Killing Curse would be pardoned. She had already incapacitated one powerful wizard, was bearing down on two (and wasn't exactly losing). He could have used maybe diffindo, bombarda, or another "less than lethal" curse, sure. But it's likely should would have deflected the spell lock into him and defended herself. The Killing Curse, while frowned upon, is easily warranted here to "reasonably defend" yourself. That being said, it took me by surprise. We are so used to Dark Magic being evil, not to be even thought of being used. To see a main good character use it to defeat an extremally powerful wizard was nice to see. Very anticlamitic route. But that's kind of how the Killing Curse works. It's done. You're dead. No pain, just sudden nothingness.

That's literally what everyone was anticipating and her being the final boss would have been better anyway.

I really thought that would happen. Instead we fought a dragon, it was fun, but meh

@@ahsank. Honestly how would’ve they gone about it though? Isidora existed during the Tudor Era. The player didn’t. How would they have made Isidora the final boss?

@@christianastorga4555 Sir, she exists in a world where it's possible to live perpetually. They have the philosopher's stone or the horcruxes in the universe, I'm sure her living in different era wouldn't have any issue.

It would have been a very bad idea and it would go against her personality.

That does open an interesting question. If terrain obstacles can block the spell, how much "obstacle" is needed to stop the effect? Can full plate armor negate the Death Curse? Could modern Kevlar body armor? Like logically there needs to be a point between "normal clothing" and "wearing a brick wall" where the armor is think enough to keep out magical effects.

WRONG

Not wrong. All this detailed info comes from the books. Read the books

@@RikudoSennin47 you are indeed partially wrong. Same core triggers Priori, that's fine. The sacrifice is unrelated to the wands core (Harry's mother had a completely different core) it's simply a plot device to create a "ancient magic" shield around Harry. Elder wand, you are also wrong, it can very well hurt it's Master (not that it mattered as technically the elder wand soul was in malfoy's wand) but Harry didn't die has he possessed all the death hallows, making him immortal for the time being.

Pretty sure Harry died but he used the resurrection stone to respawn

And they couldn't even hold her, by the look of it. If Bakar didn't cast the Killing Curse on her, they'd have died.

If it was pre 1717 then yes, if not then they were illegal

@@clarence8389 The keepers were alive during the 15th century, so the curses were still legal and the statute of secrecy hasn’t been enacted yet. Pretty good job of the devs keeping with the timeline.

@@Lethal_Giggles Oh cool, that's good to know, judging from the reactions they gave it makes sense. It's good to see someone who knows their stuff.

@@clarence8389 I always thought that, besides the narrative of Harry Potter, the world building JK Rowling did was one of the best things she did in both the books and her website. It’s such a shame that the Fantastic Beasts series didn’t do a better job at building up the other Wizarding communities around the globe.

@@Lethal_Giggles It’s sad but true, Fantastic Beasts didn’t provide much in building the world further. I recently found myself going back and researching the world of Harry Potter, and was amazed by how much I missed or forgot about.

i laughed

@ZanarAesthetics.. Package? What?

We have bathrooms here in Ravenclaw.

@@colemin2 ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

@@thesailingofthedawntreader2047 ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

I'm playing ravenclaw as well, love their common room

Not Isidora

You didn’t watch the full clip lol. At the end when you(your character) are battling rock wood he casts it an you cast expelliarmus and wand struggle

@@tbducky4136 I've completed the game myself, you're using an ancient form of magic which is more powerful than the magic used by others, that's how its countered.

@@rossp106 I’ve completed it also, an your comment has nothing to do with mine lol. You asked why everyone is asking why Isidora cast Avada kadavra but that’s not what anyone was asking, they are asking about the last minute of the clip with rockwood which you didn’t watch or existed out of the video before.

Right? This is before Tom Riddle was even born. Has no relation to this story whatsoever.

Hey here to explain quickly. Isidora is supposed to be a ancestor of voldy that's why his name is included. It's supposed to be like Isidora's surname. Hope that makes sense. Edit: nvm I'm stupid lol I just realised. Sorry for the confusion

Yeah it is, and it’s not even the headmaster it’s Professor Bakar

@@futureinyoureyes no she isn’t Ominis Gaunt is the only ancestor of Voldemort look it up

@@futureinyoureyes no Ominis Gaunt is the only Ancestor

Yes...Same Thought

The way the professors never helped Isidora get over her own pain was cowardly. Having Avada Kadavra her is bad but the Wizarding World's way of Incarceration is a fate far worse than death. An example would be how wizards were imprisoned in Saint Mungos Hospital and Azkaban for most of their lives. To be honest, Isidora was kind of spared from getting mentally worse if imprisoned in Azkaban.

The unforgivable curses are banned because their ONLY goal is to inflict pain, suffering and death. You could kill with a lot of other spells as well, but these spells can also do good. It‘s the difference between shooting someone in the head with a gun, or trying to stop him with a club, thereby accidentally killing him.

@@MisterK9739 please read his comment again. the key word was "blow up" we are able to blow people to ash with our special move how is that okay ???

@@Yutsyumi because killing people in combat/self defense is not forbidden?

@@MisterK9739 OMG you donut

Yes

Fr, the only one who wasn't afraid to do what was necessary.

Because it's not but there was no other way to stop her.

Because I dont think it was illegal at this time

I agree I don’t think it was illegal during the flashback time sequence. Because none of the other professors looked at him like he did anything wrong. And to be blunt I always thought it was kind of dumb that it was illegal in the first place. Sure maybe for an average wizard. But not even being able to use it for self-defense against someone who’s gone completely psycho like Voldemort that always seems pretty stupid to me.

Same. There was a lot of focus on the use of the spell; you'd think they would discuss it in dialogue at least briefly. While they are called the forbidden curses, they aren't entirely forbidden. If you used them to save a great number of people, the use of it would be forgiven. They taught the 3 curses within the Defense Against the Dark Arts class in the fourth year of the movies, in fact; because they had reason to believe the students may be attacked by Voldemort and his death eaters. So to protect them they also taught them the curses, incase push came to shove.

@@Faceplay2 yeah it is like taking a squirt gun to a gun fight! The Keeper had to do what was necessary! Killing her was the only way to stop her at that point! Police in my area resort to talking down a situation before they have to draw their weapons similar in this case! They tried to talk her out of it first!

San Bakar cemented himself as one of the most decisive and intelligent people in the entire franchise in this one moment.

@@SnowyWolborg Absolute Sigma.

Same

In that time there was no unforgivable nonsense I believe they became illegal in the 1700s

Probably because the effect is instant and cannot be resisted. Like the moment someone said the phrase, it's guarantee someone hit by it will instantly die

Because it's a spell exclusively designed to kill. Ancient magic is just a type of magic, how it's used is up to the wielder's imagination. Like, it can be used to cure the land, but also to slam goblins

What is so hard to get ? It's a spell made to kill. The intent is to kill. You could slam the goblin 1 or 2 times until He's out cold but it's a game. It need to feel good to be fun to use.

Also, here’s me disintegrating a troll out of existence.

No, you're right. Her image has been destroyed, we only know the memories of Keepers. I was surprised at how short and quick the trial was from Professor Niamh Fitzgerald. Not to mention that the trial of San Bakar was only his memories. I think, personally, that there are more interesting details here that, for some reason, all four have not said and are not saying. The destroyed image of Isidora, already proves something. Even our character says that "it's strange, but no one appears in the painting," which of course is drowned out by Sebastian's dialogue. I think the creators left themselves an open field to possibly release DLC and add to the story, because I think Isidora herself would change a lot, especially the story told through her eyes. And, as you mentioned yourself, Sebastian's promise and help to heal his sister. There are many threads that have seemingly come to an end, but the truth is that they are still open. And let's remember that we started in the 5th year at Hogwarts, and every student has 7 years of study there, so in theory we have 2 more years :P

​@@Jiminsaie Agreed. When I saw Isidora's pensieve i was expecting to get the whole picture but it was still just tiny snippets that didn't really explain a whole lot more than we already knew at that point (her meeting Bragbor and containing memories of pain). I hope Isidora actually shows up in the DLC

Honestly, I think it's a huge missed opportunity that they chose to focus more on the goblin rebellion rather than this keeper stuff. Isadora is a way more interesting villain than Ranrok is, because she's villainous out of a desire to be kind, whereas Ranrok is just your classic "I want power" badguy with no real connection to the main character.

What connection to another professor?

@@Jiminsaie Honestly her Trial, while short, was the best one out of all the trials. Becoming the Master of Death while having the Deathly Hollows in your possession in a story of the 3 brothers was epic

Yeah, that's why she died. 4:04

? Who ever said that? Even in the movies, where Rowling helped a ton, they showed it being blocked by people. Priori Incantatem is the only thing that happens when wands are related.

@@AzureRoxe In the Goblet of Fire novel, it's mentioned that Avada Kevdavra can't be blocked.

@@abohachuk4765 Rookwood uses it at 6:30

@@GemGames3 The magic that the MC was using was not normal Magic against his Avada Kecdavra. It is Ancient Magic which is far more powerful than current known magic and unknown compared to Avada Kevdavra due to the secrets of Ancient Magic being lost to time. The Ancient Magic he uses to block Avada Kecdavra is one of the Ancient Magic that the MC can use on a enemy though this one is designed to literally disintegrate the person hit by it. I suspect this Ancient Magic is a form of Dark Magic, long forgotten of course, that is far more powerful than Avada Kecdavra considering it not only kills the person but literally disintegrates them so that nothing is left behind. Limits of what Ancient Magic can do is unknown largely due to being forgotten but they are known to be extremely powerful and may even include forgotten spells more powerful and deadly than Avada Kecdavra that can even block it.

Depends on the pleasure of the life you take . I mean a psycho killer , must be killed and you can't fell anything else but pleasure

No its not taking pleasure its that you have to mean it to use the spell to kill.

Like you could mean to kill someone to save your life but not taking pleasure in it

Nope She’s a complete different story

@@ThatOneNerd2 tf are you smoking

ending up as a husk is a worse fate than anything. What she did was basically slowly turning everyone into either living corpses or lesser version of dementors. Using the Killing Curse bec there is no other option, she is already further down the dark path and has gone mad to the point, she is willing to kill her own colleagues and blinded by her own power

@@primecoconut4204 True. But at least her victims still have their souls…but you’re right regardless

@@primecoconut4204 The funny thing is, she basically sent her father back to where he was before she attempted to remove his pain. All he did was stay at home, not speak, and sit around like a zombie. With no emotion at all, positive or negative, Isidora unintentionally condemned him to the same fate.

That's why he DID really mean it when he casted Avada Kedavra on Isidora

@@shikuri3178 Not to mention he was also the kindest and calmest of the four lorewise. Really shows how bad Isidora's actions were that san bakar was pushed that far to using AK willingly

@@tfox1919 what really pushed him is the fact that she is willing to kill her own colleagues just for power, not to mention she used this magic on children. Plus the fact that she has been warned several times and perhaps her arrogance is what also pissed him off

​@@primecoconut4204 I think the fact that she was doing this to children is absolutely what made San have no interest in conversation. At that point, she was beyond reasoning with, because they had been warning her for years about this. Professor Rackham warned her this could go sideways, and it did.

U sure it isn't illegal cos murder is?

nah murder is fine, just not with unforgivable

it could still happen, a sequel was confirmed and the Sebastian trying to cure Anne plot line has yet to be truly resolved, I think it would be a pretty cool reveal.

I think the implication they make is that she lost her mind and went back to remove all his emotions after having removed pain.

The implication appears to be that in removing a pain she, whether intentionally or not, was removing part of the soul. A good comparison I saw someone make was that it is effectively what Dementors do in reverse. Isidora may have been taking something unpleasant, but she was still taking something that is key to a person. Moreover, what clearly started out with good intentions was eventually blinded by arrogance (there is also the potential implication that the magic itself may be so dangerous that it messed with her mind which...is kind of a thing with certain magics in Harry Potter; play around with the wrong magics too much and you can go off the deep end).

Pain provides context for other emotions. Without it, they stop being special and you have no frame of reference for the positive ones. Suffering is the constant companion of all life, and you cannot escape it. To attempt to do so is to deny part of what makes life worth living.

@@Null_Experis spot on. That's what most magic users missed and overlooked the most important lesson and what should be taught: "The meaning and value of Life"

@@Null_Experis Also, the basic truth is, Isidora did not have the emotional maturity to be an educator to children. She was traumatized by her father's depression and her brother's death, and instead of learning to acknowledge sadness, she just wanted it to go away.

The game does a good job at making you question yourself and the actions of others

Unforgivable because you have to mean them. You have to want to take away their free will. You have to want them to feel unimaginable pain. You have to want them dead.

One of the reason why it is unforgivable, as per Hogwarts Legacy, it completely destroys the soul. Isidora's portrait is simply a blank compared to other keepers.

@@MenrvaS magical portraits dont contain the soul or any real part of the depicted wizard/witch, otherwise dumbledore couldn‘t appear in his portrait

A tip of advice, if a death is instant and there are no signs of death, then it is affecting something you can't see. For the curse, it attacks the soul, ripping it out of the person's body, and according it's most popular caster, it is not painless to the soul. Additionally, be honest, in what world would an instant death spell that relies on intent to kill not be made illegal or looked at badly? You are focusing on the pain factor vs what the spell can do and how it works. No one would know the full gravity of the curse unless if they survived to tell the tale. Cruciatus Curse: Affects: Body Intent: Torture Effect: immense pain and insanity after a whole Use: Torture people. Resistance: None, only avoidance. Imperius Curse: Affects: Mind Intent: Dominate Effect: Turns someone into a slave. Use: Control people and Resistance: Very few people can resist it. Killing Curse: Affects: Spirit Intent: Kill Effect: Instantly kills someone by ripping out their soul. Use: Killing someone. Resistance: None, only avoidance.

The enemies say stuff, when you fight them theyll occasionally say “oh you learned the dark arts huh” or when you cast the death curse they be like “WHERE DID YOU LEARN THAT?!?!”

No, not an instant defeat condition, I hate that. Our Character is more than strong enough to beat whoever the Wizarding World throws at it.

late reply sorry, but yeah I know they say stuff like that but I would like real reactions from them. In the harry potter movies or books, you wont hear about a student who casually uses unforgiveable curses without anyone having a real reaction to it@@TheCuuCuuCachu

But she had no children 🤔 and her brother died.

@@epcza13 perhaps her family extends beyond her current one

That would imply that professor Perceval Rackham was also part of her family, which is not true.

@@SnowyWolborg perhaps her mother had other family members

not likely its a nice theory to think about though but no the keepers are not the only ones with ancient magic and it can't be taught but it can be honed and manipulated by a very rare few. isadora was amongst the rare few who could see ancient magic which means she could potentially wield it which is what the keepers thought so they brought her into their fold to help her nurture the self same power they discovered in the hopes she would use it to help better wizardkind and the world of magic but when she abused it is when they decided to seal away the knowledge of it so a tragedy like the one isadora created wouldn't happen again.

The Harry Potter world abandoned that bit of lore years ago. Even in the movies they embellished priori incantatem in several instances. One of the most widely known was when dumbledore and Voldemort’s wands connected in the order of the phoenix. In canon yes, they have to be brother/sister wands but cinematically this has never been depicted accurately.

No mate you watch too much yt theory stuff that's all

@@Ardeus welp he still knows more than your ass

@@Ardeus read the books dudes it was stated that wands can only connect if they have the same core🤡😭🤦🏻‍♂️

Even in the movies(and I think book) harry used malfoys wand vs voldemorts elder wand

thats the whole point, It can never be defended no matter how much sheer magical power you have. you have to workaround it(Like Voldermont's Hocruxes). also Isidora manage to gather a ton of ancient magical energy be she didnt have the fraction of Dark arts experience the keepers had which is why she lost, funny enough she could have kept getting stronger and stronger if she kept things lowkey (like Voldermont who only after reaching a certain point to be sure to stop anyone showed his hand) instead of going all crazy with involving students and forcing the Keepers to intervene

I think he was talking about being a fragmented soul without a body.

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