(Hearthstone) Big Spell Mage Experiments 

Completely out of control and of any sense whatsoever

I mean... have you played Magic?

Yep. Had to pump it all the way to 100% and it still rather low.

It did get slightly better about half way through the video, but it was still unusually low

Yeah, I looked through my sound settings cause I thought it was on my end

They legit need to hall of fame quest mage and quest warlock because those 2 (i know currently mage is way more dominant than warlock but warlock was also a problem earlier part of this expansion +has same issue so) completely killed all control decks and most mid range decks Now meta is either you play quest or play aggro because other options just get fucked by quests

@@allhailderpfestor4839 hall of fame shouldn't be a solution it's just redirecting the problem to the wild

God forbid quest mage reward gets nerfed to +2 or +1.

@@nerdock4747 Should be +1 tops and warlock should be "first time your hero takes damage this turn"

@@Kratatch No the solution is making the reward just +4 spell damage on the first spell you cast each turn (on average it would cut down damage by about 5-8 a turn and pump the brakes on the deck). You still get a huge reward, but its value is limited and the deck can still go infinite and is a lot slower. Warlock has 2 options: 1. only effects allied minions and spells. All other sources work normally. Hero power and fatigue would cause damage to hero and not the enemy. And burst minions on the enemies board would not count towards hurting yourself. 2. Healing reverses the progress. Then you have to actually play around when you heal instead of spamming healing every chance you get.

This. Anything that reduces cost to Zero and any Combo that allows you to go infinite are just fun Killers.

@@kareemthedream5025 Infinite combos are good for the game, as long as they're bad. (They're a sometimes food) Basically why everyone hates ignite, but loves Elwynn boar.

@@kareemthedream5025 combos aren't the problem, the lack of combo interaction is. Its why i stopped playing hs in favor of pretty much any other tcg years ago. I enjoy combos, but in hs they are only ever busted af or completely useless.

Totally agree. This problem is even worse, since you dont need more than a braincell to pull off these combos. They just happen, no planing or set up or thinking is required.

This...is more delicate than you may think: T.L.D.R at the start since it's long: Combo bad 'cause no interaction possible, disruption bad 'cause random in a bad way and neither of them should exist in this game. Combo _(or, more properly OTK/infinite...and let's put mill in there as well since it does the exact same thing in a different "skin")_ is acceptable in most card games because you usually have ways to influence the opponent's turn _(trap cards in Yu-gi-Oh, counterspell and spells in general in MTG and so on)_ a.k.a. actual counterplay. HS on the other hand has NONE of the sort, therfore the only real CoUnTeRpLaY left is to kill them b4 they get their "win game button". This is the point where you _(at least...kibler does...and I HEAVILY disagree with him on that one)_ argue in favor of cards like dirty rat/demonic project/mutanus but...think about this for a second: Is this REALLY the game you want? The "play rat and win/lose an entire game off of a cointoss with NOTHING ELSE THAT MATTERS" kind of game? I'm not just talking about games vs combo either, any control/value "mirror" matchup can be essentialy won or lost by some ugly fish eating your N'zoth while yours doesn't, I know HS is a game heavily influenced by RNG but most of the time it is neither THIS potentially gamewinning nor this outreagiously out of your control _(and, when it was, it usually got nerfed)_ . If you REALLY want disruption to be a part of the game _(why? Who pissed in your cereals?)_ then I present to you " far watch post-like cards" that increase the cost of X cards in the opponent's hand/deck by X _(up to 10)_ THIS is the only way disruption is ever...not toxic...in HS, you don't randomly remove wincons but you DO make comboes/synergies harder to pull off AND you still keep counterplay in the game.

You get it if you own all the cards from Scholomance Academy

@@BouncyBear. ty

the un'goro quest rewards were (in part) 5 mana 7/7s with upsides...

@@america5792 they were 5 mana 8/8s but their upsides were slow as hell (Minions in deck cost 0 and shuffle raptors into deck that draw). You also had Galvadon as a semi 5 mana 8/8 adapt 3 times and the 5 mana persistent spells that are much more similar to the constant wincon that we have now **with 7/7 less stats**

@@frankfs8415 Yeah, the issue these days is the rate of completion and not the size of the reward (although both are factors for sure). The ungoro quests were slower and generally less impactful, they'd often come down turn 10 or later and rarely won the game on the spot (Amara against any aggro deck being the exception, but that used to be true for any big heal against aggro). Then the Uldum quests sped things up to around turn 5 while providing similar if not stronger rewards. Now we have turn 5 completion with three rewards, the last of which is likely GG in most matchups. They could tone down the current rewards but it would probably be far more impactful to just slow them down instead. If it took 3-4 turns on average to complete each phase of the quests instead of 1-2 then it give more time for other archetypes to actually play the game (and also just make more sense from a card design standpoint, what was the point in giving multiple stages of reward if you're just going to get them all immediately anyway?).

I agree, barnabus the stomper shows us that anything for 5 mana above a 7/7 is just innately overpowered. Barnabus still keeps me up at night.

​@@thebigyes8482 Barnabus wasn't oppressive by himself though, you still had to draw into your big dumb idiots for a wincon (and those gimped your quest progress). Questlines just give you a wincon on cards that progress your quest, they make your whole deck a menace, the 5 mana 7/7 is just an extra dumb idiot the turn you play your permanent effect

Yeah even twitch chat complained about it

Collect ALL scholomance card

collect all scholomance academy cards

Not sure if this is true, but I’m guessing Diamond Jandice is your reward for collecting all Scholomance cards.

@@TentaCole It is, I was given it retroactively after this past patch.

@@jensenchavez265 I see; thanks!

What does halal mean?

@@jensenchavez265 That means muslims can eat it. Opposite of "haram".

@@jensenchavez265 It translates to permissable in English. In Islam food especially meat should be stored, prepared, and eaten in as healthy a manner as possible down to the unaliving of the animal itself.

Thanks guys