HEATED DEBATE: Penuel Vs Josh on Andrew Tate, Cult Leaders & Kanye West 

I so badly want to watch this but I can’t. Andrew Tate triggers me so much the first and only time I ever watched anything about him I literally had an anxiety attack with severe heart palpitations. As soon as I saw Penuel was going to be part of this discussion….I took my anti anxiety meds and made peace with skipping a Josh podcast☹️ But I love love looooove ♥️you Josh and can’t wait for your next upload hopefully with no patriarchal misogynistic shitheads like Andr….I actually can’t say or type his name for the second time😅 and anyone who shares his views.

Thanks Josh, it was great. Nicely balanced

Keep it up Bru 😊

Brilliant episode, a clear train of thought without any bias and both of you have stated your opinions clearly, whether one agrees or disagrees, the essence of freedom of speech. Keep up the good work, please invite Penuel again in future.

Wild

People have a right to feel touched. If you don't like it, don't do interviews. Or is that the reason for doing them? If it is, it's stupid.

False/Half-Truth: The definition of religion is not organized "belief systems." Collins dictionary defines religion as thus 1. a. belief in a divine or superhuman power or powers to be obeyed and worshiped as the creator(s) and ruler(s) of the universe. Josh is actually more correct in saying that religion denotes following something that there's no proof of. Religion is thus a synonym of faith. The truth is that the English language has many definitions for religion, as is the case with words such as 'politics'. The English language is also evolving and therefore open to re-evaluation. None of the principles Penuel is citing as organised belief systems /his religious principles can be proven as true without first leaning on one's faculty of faith to validate their utility to human-kind. even their application is vague and cannot be elevated to a point where they can be considered religion by his own definition. One needs a great deal of faith to folllow Panuel and his delusions of grandeur. Calling yourself God, being a man is actually abominable and blasphemous. There is a God who created all things, including the laws of morality and logic which we all find in existence when we arre born. That you have no knowledge of all English definitions as you claim you do is proof that you are not God, therefore no man in their right minds should follow you. As a God Panuel lacks the following characteristics - omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence. Penuel must also stop comparing himself with Jesus Christ/Yeshua, his story is completely different to His. To all Christians, especially ones new to the faith, I implore you to seek truth for yourself and not rely on cult-leaders to do it for you. No religion is as practical and consistent as that founded by Jesus before time began, there will always be characters who will try to convince you of their flawed beliefs don't buckle.

Dear Pen, Papa Pen. do you think Bester had a God / Cult leader character that is why he had so many helping in his escape?

I like the way you think

Penuel I think you've mastered stoicism

I envy his ability too. He can remove himself so much from the subject that be removes logical reasoning as well, including consistency. Take the hypocritical stance he took on cult leaders not being held accountable for their followers actions for instance, yet just 2 weeks ago he said Julius Malema must be held accountable for any racial crime against boers because he sang a chant.

He is very good and people think he is a lunatic but for me he is intentional.

South Africans are stupid if they're following a cult leader. Are you guys nuts?

5 minutes into the video I already feel like he's trying to intemedate the host

Breaking free from the screen is harder than one might think it to be.

@@snokelpops haha

Especially brothers

Lack of Humility is a factor. Too much knowledge can misdirect you❤✌

I said it bro❤

anyone who can't understand basic finances and can't see how offering 40% returns doesn't work isn't intelligent but an absolute clown.

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​@@godpenuel😂😂😂😂😂

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Naaah Penuel is too average for MH unless it’s aimed with Dawah

Lol I agree.. Yeah that's the aim.. Not just Dawah at him but for the south african masses. He has a large audiance and just like him most need dawah

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Singaphihlizwa amakhanda😂😂😂

😂😂Zingakhala straight. Weee njengase maTexini

Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Just subscribed 🤘

I hope it doesn’t disappoint! 😂

@@wideawakepodcast whether it's RU-vid or Instagram your uploads never disappoint! lol​

He lives in delusion its hilarious

Overt Narcissism. And then all of the people here who call it "Intelligence". Shameee!! 12mns is all I could do.

He ticks the box as an occult leader,that's what he says 😂 😂

Finally someone with some sense in this comment section.

I don't see any difference between Penualism and all these other religions.

Penuel is talking shit...he must stop smoking crap n go to a rehab he wud ok...who the f....k is he to call himself a god???

I really hope he takes all necessary steps and process to refresh and recharg plus heal. More like therapy or something, it's exactly people like us who are known to be strong but are going through the most

Do you really think it a wise idea for black ppl to be divided according to tribes?

Perhaps we could unite to create stories for our people in our language. That would be dope ❤

Bump!!

Andile mngxi!!!!!!!!!!!

@@Sakhatina I don't understand why it's Mngxi now and not Mngxitama

@@jimmy-tg6qh only his true followers will know why

@@Sakhatina lol Another cult. Are you part of his stockvel cult?

That's not true, though. All three were viewed as cult leaders and were despised by people and thought off as narcissists and lunatics. The rise of their movements to becoming religions happened over centuries.

Same here

You catching feelings

His personality is meh, at best

Classical example of an overt Narcissist...struggles to set himself aside and just hold a conversation without trying to sound so important.

He's an empty soul. Even his face screams that

@@andilemajiki2203 Hehehe... You guys are ripping him to shreds

@@tshidi129 he asked for it🤣

God is in u