@@thang4534 no, she ends up not living long. Not only because of being half homonculus, but also because of all the experiments and adjustments Acht had her go through to become the lesser grail.
@@myaava6608 And what would happen in that route? I think that all of ninelives's stuff was planned for Illya's route. But Nasu merged Sakura and Illya's routes.
He actually was trying his best considering his memories were being erased due to the memories of archer being implanted in him while also having his brain pierced by swords. I must say, HF shirou was truly the bone of his sword.
Is there a afterlife in the fate world? I thought souls returned to the root to have their components broken down and reused to make new souls. Hence way heroic spirts are made from the records stored in the throne of heros because their souls no longer exist.
And then Angra manyu copies Shiro in alternate marble-universe. As the story finishes, he also returns to the Grail. "Hey Ilya, we also have Shirou here. But just ignore him when he howls like a wolf." Everyone's happy, and Shiro is doggy..
For me, Illya was the best thing that happened to HF, it hurts that Ufotable cutted so much of her, expecially "that" scene, because the route is so tense and sad for the most part, but Illya was the light that shines over everything and made us happy, i love her, she deserves her own route
@@Silasssssssss Die Lorelei, a song that Illya sings to Shirou, while Shirou wonders what it would be like if Kiritsugu were with them, as a family. It is one of the most famous scenes on HF
I never got the impression that she liked him romantically, maybe it was different in the VN but it seemed more like she grew to love him as a little brother and her first human friend.
Her grandfather raised her to absolutely resent Shirou, yet she was still able to love him as a sister. It's like she's the sunshine in the abyss that is the Heavens Feel route.
Heavens Feel is actually both Sakura and Illya's route combined, they were going to be separate from each other, but several problems arised with that plan, so they merged it. That is the reason why there are so many Illya moments in heavens feel. If I had to guess the plot, it would probably be about the Avenger class and the Holy Grail, and the Heavens Feel route would have Sakura as final boss with the route renamed. Also, because of the movie format for this route, al lot of important and amazing scenes were cut, and they also killed the explanation for the plot, serving us the "Avenger bad. Kill Avenger." So if you want to understand the plot better(Applies for all 3 adaptations) and get to experience an overall better experience, read the light novel. And for all you Illya simps, there was a cg with Illya that was cut. Go scream at Nasu.
Original plan from Nasu: Fate/Stay Night is Saber and Archer/Rin route Fate/Other Night is Illya and Sakura routes Similar to how Tsukihime has Near Side and Other Side
Originalmente shirou era archer para ser el guardián de el grial después de que illya se sacrificó tiene lógica esto es el clásico de mostrar todo lo que sucedió en la última etapa para que todas las etapas iniciales tengan sentido.
VN player, unfortunately there is no single route were you can save everyone, the closest you can get is the UBW route the good ending saves saber, sakura, and rin. Heavens feel gives you the next best thing. at the end of the game Illya explains that this was done on purpose to give the VN more depth.
@@Lazy-MayFate/Stay night VN, in both versions, day 11 (Fate route). Next part for context. -Saber used her NP. Since her master is Shirou, she's gonna disappear (she will anyway) -Archer tells you, it's because you suck. -Shirou goes to park, to think about it. -Illya comes, hypnotizes Shirou to lost consciousness. -After waking up in castle, Shirou finds himself tied to a chair. -Illya gives you a choice, while sitting on your lap/knees(?) (Sorry, not native eng speaker) "Shirou, be mine." - Said Illya, while sitting on tied up Shirou. Hmmmm, I wonder what does it imply??? -Try to lie (say yes) and get to "Bad end 7", where Shirou is her "familiar". In Tiger dojo, Illya and Tohsaka "jokes" about "corrupted honeymoon" and "Discarded H-scene" - Tell the truth (refuse offer) Illya decides to kill Rin and Saber out of petty and anger towards Shirou, after that she would kill kill him too.
There is a wonderful fanfic out there called Chaos Theory written by Moczo. It has been referred to as an unofficial Illya route, and I can happily declare it was written very well. It is one of a handful of fanfictions I’ve come across that has actually been COMPLETED rather than petering out over time, and the characters are all written very well. I hope anyone who wants to will enjoy.
Theres Saber route: underdevelloped, feels like a scam in comparison to the rest Rin: Saber route but develloped and about Rin mainly, so differant end Sakura: lets take a turn into the extremely develloped and dark Illya: ... "right, i aint writing loli scene, lets just... add part of a potential route in Heavens feel, she IS technically the one capable of this stuff and not Sakura so it covers the naming problem, and hum no route for her il sure none will complain"
Shirou: Don't sacrifice yourself for the sake of anyone other than yourself ! That's my job. and your job is to be the reason that FBI puts me in jail.
Here's the thing, the trade, Illya for Sakura, was not worth it. Sakura is ass, and not worth an ounce of what Illya is. The only bit of bad writing and storytelling in the entirety of Stay night, is the fact that Illya sacrifices herself for Sakura and Shirou to live. To save Shirou? Ok. To save Sakura? Fuck no. Sakura used Shirou, tried to kill him multiple times, turned him away from being selfless, which is Shirou's main selling point, and then basically had Illya die for her. Not worth it, Illya did more in Heavens feel and in the other routes, that Sakura has done in the entirety of the Fate franchise.
Reminder that Sakura was stuck in a basement being r#%! and was taught nothing *Nothing* If she was taught she would have surpassed Rin Illya on the other hands was trained and taught since she was born
I always hope Nasu will rewrite HF route follow more serious way.I hate have to read it while checking the setting to realize what the character actually thinking ( exp: from day 10-13, Sakura tries her best to prevent Shadow from attack Rin. We never can realize that if not check the setting.) If he doesn't even care to rewrite HF route, how can we hope for Illya route?
@@erfanthered9801 This takes place in Japan where the age of consent is 16, so nobody would be getting arrested. It's actually kind of important to consider the country and time period in a legal discussion. 18 year olds are still allowed to be together with 17 year olds even in countries where the age is 18 though. It would make high school pretty fucked up if everyone just had to dump the person they were dating once they turned 18 due to arbitrary dates & legal issues lol.
Adopted at most. Shirou was some random kid saved by Kiritsugu when Fuyuki was burning due to the grail mud from Zero. Though even then Shirou didn't know Illya until the grail war so adopted sibling is a stretch.