Hela is supposed to be the goddess of death but the Darkhold is the knowledge of Chthon, so not even Hela's status is of any use against Scarlet Witch and the Darkhold.
@@hwuzbshusChthon is a former Elder God of Earth, now a Degenerated Demon. Whereas Hela is the Asgardian Goddess of Death. They’re probably evenly matched if Hela is on Asgard. People overhype the Darkhold because they don’t actually know it is. The Darkhold is just a book that holds all of Chthons spells. Scarlet Witch takes the win in the comics, but if it’s MCU then Hela on Asgard wins. Hela not only is an incredible trained fighter with Thor level strength and durability, she is also a magic user and has an entire army at her disposal. That’s enough to take MCU Wanda down.
She doesent need swords to kill wanda Hela literally chocked thor to death, helas strenght might be enough to defeat wanda, besides hela cant really be damaged anyways.
@mahmoudfayez4567 lol you're silly, first of all wanda can't destroy the whole comics she's not strong enough to do that, but in thor ragnarok it was revealed that "hela can rule the cosmos" and also without hela there would be no asgard because of hela asgard is there because she built most of it she spent 5000 years in hell, she killed hundreths of valkyries and didnt even move from her position, she destroyed many armies all by herself and odin didn't even do nothing, hela defeated the asgard army on her own and didnt get a scratch or blood, thor, valkyrie, loki, and heimdall all coulnt defeat her even when thor hot his God like powers hela didnt get scratched or wounds nothing, she nearly defeated surtur all on her own, also hela has a resistance to magic so Wanda's witchcraft won't really work and wanda can't wound her since helas wounds just get sealed she doesent even bleed. Darling, maybe stop fangirlie over wanda I love wanda not even doctor strange, Wong, and whole Kamara Taj can't defeated her, but America Chavez nearly defeated the scarlet wit h just by punching her and America Chavez is only 14. So there sweetie can't you shut up now.
@mahmoudfayez4567 dear baby girl listen wanda can't destroy the cosmos she's not strong enough and also doubt you know that hela conquered the 9 realms go research how big the 9 realms, are you even a marvel fan? Or just a fangirl lol, do you even know what you're saying hela is incredibly powerful she has a resistance to magic even Wanda's chaos magic which is the same resistance that wonder woman has but just more powerful and resistant.
I believe this is a joke, but it doesn't change the fact that Wanda stans are sometimes ridiculous. She removed someone's mouth and Wanda stans are like "WHAT MULTIVERSE?"
The Scarlet witch who held Thanos with her 1st hand, destroyed the stone of reason with her 1st hand, almost killed Thanos alone, defeated Thor, ruled the city only with the power of reason, destroyed kamartaj alone, moved to other universes, in 2 seconds destroyed that gum and his friends from another universe will lose to Thor's sister 💀
But hela ain had no problem with defeating Thor 😂 Wanda had to fight Thor to beat him hela ain’t had to do nothing to beat him, it’s not about powers or nothing it’s your reflexes and speed, if Wanda vs hela in anything but powers hela will Win automatically yall only say Wanda win cause she’s a witch if Wanda wasn’t a witch then hela will win automatically, let’s also not forget how Wanda struggle with taking out ships, hela took out Thor ships with just throwing a knife😂😂, it takes seconds to do witch powers, by time Wanda done trying to do her spell, hela knife will be inside her, even if Wanda stops it she can’t focus on hela and a knife at the same time, by time she stops the knife hela will be running up nd punch her down 😂😂 Wanda can’t even stop Thor hammer let’s not forget that, everyone in MSU struggled with stopping it, everyone needs power to stop his hammer hela is a human no flying or nothing hela used her hands to stop his hammer in seconds. So ye hela got 95% of winning Wanda got 5% cause of help
Bro it's hela on asguard Only on earth that too just came out of hell she broke mjolnir with single hand and by using very less potential and you are saying Wanda wins easily
If Wanda does win between the both of them, it wouldn't be an easy win to acquire for Wanda in other words, Wanda is reliant on her powers to mostly carry the win while Hela has combat skills even without a weapon
Kinda not rlly hela was still regaining her abilities when surtur arrived thor stated they needed to defeat her quickly since she just returned from imprisonment for a day before she grew too powerful and conquered everything
@@lumatic6624 Captain Marvel, an avenger from an alternate universe, tried to fight an alternate version of Wanda, who possessed by the Scarlet Witch, and was instantly defeated. Hela is powerful, sure, but holds no power against a powerful telekinetic, telepathic, magic user like Wanda.
Scarlet witch wins with her reality warping abilities and powerful mind manipulation. She literally has all the infinity stones abilities without have them. She even goes 1 on 1 against The Phoenix Force, something Hela can’t do.
Wanda would win. Her reality warping is insane and she completely overpowered Thanos in Endgame before she even had the Dark Hold. Hela just doesn’t have the scaling to deal with that.
Hela doesn't need scaling. One touch and Wanda is dead. Hela is way smarter than Wanda. All she got to have is element of surprise, teleport in and touch Wanda, like when she sleeps since she's mortal and Wandas dead. Whose dumb enough to walk in front of her and say hey I want to fight right now and I'm going to just stand in one spot and not use all the tools at my disposal when I fight you. Wanda goes to hell the end. Plus hela has a hell army of dead Gods
The healing goes to Hela. Aren’t she unkillable as long as She"s on Asgard? . *edit this is an old comment yall I like both of them. lol They are appearantly equal when it comes to healing ability due to Darkhold/Asgard. But I still gotta go for Hela simply due to her attack speed and strength and her durability. if america chaves can land a punch on wanda, wouldnt that be an instant death if that was replaced by Hela's Punch instead or worse behead her with Hela's Blade? xD considering wanda is not really good at dodging.
@@JKINgz786 lmao,wanda wouldnt take any damage from thor's lightning too,hes so weak.... and you are talking about durability,its not regeneration.helas still featless in healing factor
❤️WANDA'S CHAOS MAGIC❤️ ✨ We need to understand that Wanda's Chaos Magic/her power is both MAGIC(First Form of Magic) and the oldest Cosmic Force(The Earliest Primordial glint of Cosmic Understanding & Happenstance) 📖TRIAL OF MAGNETO📖 by Leah Williams Thank you so much Leah for creating the best comic book that defined & fixed Wanda's Power structure/system "To bring it all in one Umbrella, like no this is CHAOS MAGIC. You SPIN THE WHEEL" "All encompassing Chaos Magic" - Leah Williams ❤️Chaos magic Encompasses Life & Death, Light & Dark, Good & bad for it is neither/both at the same time BALANCE ✨1.✨ Wanda uses systemized structures of spells using ORDER through CHAOS(Balance) to manipulate the Raw DISORDER (Raw building block of Life, Creation & Existence) that exists in ALL of creation(ALL THERE IS/ALL OF REALITY) In short ABSOLUTE MAGIC(First form of magic) ALL LIFE contains CHAOS - CONTEST OF CHAOS ✨2.✨ When wanda devoid herself with Order. It becomes Pure Chaos which is the form of her power that doesn't depend on laws and order to work. It is the Disorder of ALL THERE IS that she channels. ✨3.✨ Primordial Chaos is the Power that dates back to the beginning of everything. this power allows her to command the very fabric of All REALITY(It is the power she used in House Of M) This type of power is the very reason why Wanda's Chaos Wave is auto reverting everything back to a blub of pure disorder Like the first MULTIVERSE ✨4.✨ Last is her Unique Nexus Being powers(For she is the Nexi of Prime Earth) Which allows her to channel the Forces & Powers of the cosmos far superior to any other nexus beings. This is the reason why Wanda can use Life Force & Force DC's Anti-Crisis Forces & Powers to obey her will automatically. 616 is the main reality & Prime Earth to the Whole MARVEL CONTINUITY ❤️NOTE❤️ The only thing that Low Mysterium can affect is the first form of Wanda's Chaos Magic. If Wanda Uses other higher/deeper forms of her Chaos Magic. mere Low Mysterium won't do anything against it, cause chaos in its PUREST FORMS is LAWLESS. ScarletWitch & Wiccan Wanda knows that the TRUE dark hold is indestructible. And now she became the TRUE darkhold. She already understands that she can never kill chthon. But she can posses his power for her self. And that made her the immortal goddess of chaos. A being beyond a dc chaos lord. A nexus being beyond a cosmic entity. And a comic character that is having some boost as we speak now. Mcu is already constructing a revelation that she is destined to rule or destroy the cosmos it self. Marvel already have 8 cosmos right now. The first firmament and beyond are destined to kneel before the ScarletWitch Her Current Status(Comics/MCU) - She is an omniversal threat. - Used Life Force and Chaos to cast "No More Mutants" that affected the Omniverse. - The nexus being of the Central universe 616 - The new goddess of the first magic(chaos) - A being who made a heaven like pocket dimension that holds the past, present and future soul of all mutant kind. - An immortal being that granted resurrection to all mutants of all time. - The only being to stand against the full force of the phoenix five. - The only being that absorbed the indestructible book of the damned (DarkHold) and the immortal elder god of chaos(chthon) - She gave birth the the future Demiurge(wiccan) - Her chaos wave threatened the existence of order, chaos and creation it self. - Her being the medium of all forces, magic and energy of her universe. Pheonix is the heart of all creations within the cosmos. But even the first fire has byond things above it Even after mday, The alteration of reality cannot be fixed by anyone, one wrong move Wanda's power will revert everything back to a blub of pure chaos wanda's chaos magic still exist in all reality "With great power comes with great responsibility" it took wanda a Gentle whisper to threaten all of reality the pheonix force came to earth in avenger vs xmen Because it is equal and opposite reaction to wanda's powers That's why now wanda keep restraining herself cuz she knows she wields a kind of power that could end all of the reality. This is why wanda is a multiversal threat to omniversal threat Her using the primordial chaos and her nexus beings power commands the very fabric of all there is Chaos wave is just a glimpse of her power( Don't belive read the last or ending or whatever it is said) chaos wave can revert back Everything to pure disorder chaos wave can reach the farthest reaches of imagination sundered planes sublimitry ascension other world is a tva like plane of existence it is beyond time and space they are the gaurdian of all of there is Imagine if wanda reconnects to her primordial chaos it will be different than before wanda has master control of her chaos magic which is order and chaos balance She overcomed her trauma, sufferings, guilt #withces road #trial of magneto I think she is ready now A power that exist beyond the beyond Beyond the tva and the other world The union of all sephiroths of the tree of life Wanda can use her nexus beings power to harness all of the forces and power there she is a focal point of reality Nothing can save the all of the reality Against the wandas powers if the uses the same power again this time with control What is wanda's true potential? Answer: Her accessing her as true power as nexus being of the main realities 616/199999 She is perfect avatar of toaas power For she is the light of pure possibility Im/probabilities, Im/possibilities & Pure Chaos these are part of Wanda's Chaos Magic ✨Trial Of Magneto wanda stated that it is easy for her to fold these possibilities into Confettis, past present future is the same to a being like Wanda Im/probabilities, Im/possibilities & Pure Chaos these are part of Wanda's Chaos Magic ✨Trial Of Magneto wanda stated that it is easy for her to fold these possibilities into Confettis, past present future is the same to a being like Wanda Yet those Ideas didn't come from the WHR itself. it needs Kether & Daath to even create something. Daath is the source of True Knowledge Daath is the place beyond Tifereth(WHR/Pure Phoenix) "Beyond me is darkness, ABYSS" - stated by the Pure Phoenix ✨Defenders Beyond #3 DAATH - is divided into two halves NEVERS(Impossibilities, Improbabilities) Couldn't be, shouldn't be ALWAYS(Possibilities & Probabilities) Could be, Should be Daath is also the place of Pure Chaos "Unchecked Possibility is Pure Chaos" -stated by Defenders Beyond Beyonder ✨Defenders Beyond #4
@Ben Stokes did you red comics ? Wanda with darkhold is god level she can hurt strange in another universe like u seen in mom, and plus it was only 30% of her power in the movie
@@reyr.7439 dude The Asgardians control Yggdrasil and every thing including the Multiverse is connected to Yggdrasil. Odin almost destroyed the Multiverse just by having a battle with another god. Surtur could have destroyed the Yggdrasil and it took Odin'and his brother's to stop him. Hela is not far behind. Scarlett witch with all the powerful beings gone such as ODIN, SURTUR , HELA and many others she didn't have to deal with is still not on that level. She had trouble with Dr Strange without his infinity stone and America Chavez. Also she needed the Darkhold and Strange could have stopped her with the Book of vishanti.
@@ricklopez4703 What Hela? What Asgard? She could do all of that and more. In case your puny brain can't remember, she erased almost all of the mutants in the Multiverse with just three words. Massive cap, you can't beat a Nexus being.
I kinda believe Wanda can destroy all of Asgard though. I don't think she needs to teleport Hela elsewhere. Wanda can likely cover Asgard & destroy it, like how her hex covered Westview & remember, Wanda was able to expand her hex, so she can expand her magic around Asgard & conquer it, thus getting a 1 up on Hela.
Also, remember how Wanda had that humongous stealth hex in Multiverse Of Madness in the orchard when Doctor Strange arrived. If Wanda can hex such a massive plot of land, and can hex a 4000+ populated town in WandaVision, as well as mind control the entire Sokovian capital city to evacuate in Age Of Ultron, then I believe Wanda can cover & conquer Asgard.
He thats how i know u never seen anything under 2018 witch means ur 11 or 12 witch means u only seen 1 Thor and thats the original one not the one with hela and u must’ve only seen multiverse of madness because you don’t read comics because your generation is new and know only weird ass slurs plus u probably don’t even know how to read probably dont even know what most of the words i said in this sentence if you even know what a sentence is but your dumb slow and young and only know how crack 90s and probably not crack a egg or make breakfast and i hope u find a dictionary and make up a SENTENCE to find a good grammar comeback for this u sped little shit
@@Charro_Negroactually Odin was a nexus being in the comics and smashed Galactus's helmet with a headbutt, the guy is skyfather level so i'd put him and Scarlet around the same level
You say hela got stabbed trough behind with a sword and nothing happened not even a single drop of blood aslong asgard is not fallen she would never die
People have debated this over and over and no, Hela isn't going to be able to defeat Wanda. She reacted to Captain Marvel's photon blast consistently and she has force shields. In the battle of Kamar Taj, she redirects the sorcerer's arrows back to them so who's to say that she can't do that to Hela's swords and daggers. No, Hela isn't immune to reality warping because she's a God, Chaos magic is a form of Elder God magic so it is definitely more superior than Asgardian magic. She also has mind manipulation that can manipulate a God's mind. How? Because like I said, Chaos magic is God magic as it is Chthon's magic. Oh, not to mention, she broke Thanos' uru sword which is the same material Stormbreaker and Mjolnir. So uru weapons are not a big threat to her.
Chthon feared Hela in comics lmao so what chance does Wanda have Y'all really don't know Hela she clapped both Wanda and Strange at the same time in Hel because magic doesn't work there and whenever Wanda is in Hela's presence she feels ill, because Hela is draining her. Hela's powers can't be absorbed because they're not energetic+ she's a master magician and necromancer with 5k years experience so would know spells to counter Wanda, her necroswords are godkillers and she can spam them, sure Wanda may redirect a few but all she needs is one plus sorcerer arrows are fodder compared to necroswords Hela has way more experience and knowledge First she would destroy the darkhold(which was destroyed by a human) and without it Wanda would be weaker without the spells. And if that wasn't enough Wanda was struggling with the souls of the damned and Hela is queen of the dead, stop simping and accept Wanda loses.
@@xandervc26And speaking of elder gods, Hela ragdolled Thor who in comics is the son of Gaia, Chthon's sister, so being related to an elder god doesn't mean anything. Hela literally threatened the omniverse in comics, she one shot cosmic ghost rider, and smoked Annhilus whereas Wandas best feat is no more mutants which was universal. Wanda has always won her fights due to raw power and the massive difference from her opponent but that won't happen with Hela, she's on her level and will push her to her limits, she can't just reality warp her away because she's a higher being, in comics she rebulit eternity smh. Hela dogwalks every Scarlet Witch apart from Elder Goddess
Durability definitely goes to Wanda. She was blasted with a fireball from a canon, escaped the mirror dimension with no injuries, and took like 3 punches with the force of all of the universes.
Well if she killed the whole Illuminati team while sleepwalking then it’s kinda obvious Wanda is winning. I mean she is one of the most powerful Avengers.
@@itzthorfan1596 wish u know chaos magic and scarletwitch being a nexus being and even destroyed thanos sword which is the strongest sword and dont forget she can warp reality and has the power of every infinity stones
Hela is an Asgardian goddess and a powerful magic user too. Hela wouldn't be fazed much especially if she has regained full power nothing could have stopped her from conquerering anything the Yggdrasil offered and that means the Omniverse in theory. Scarlett witch wouldn't be strong enough to stop her.
Bro Wanda is a goddess too and has the power of a omniversal god chython and has the dark hold plus the chaos magic created the omniverse plus if Hela is Omni lvl then why did she died to a lava sword 🤦
@@Hello13333she isnt BORN from a Goddess bloodline tho. Let's say she is a Goddess, but she isnt strong and powerful enough to defeat Hela, Hela is just a different breed. The GODDESS OF DEATH defeated many characters in the comics (lets base in the comics, not the MCU, MCU characters are nerfed, so that Wanda fans can cry) Hela defeates Wanda (Darkhold) and The Phoenix, and many other powerful foes, such as Dormammu. Even Hela not being in Asgard, she still is a VERY POWERFUL being, Asgard just enhances her power
@@Hello13333 Hela was killed by Surtur who can literally destroy Yggdrasil which is Omniversal🤦 Chthon was banished by Elder gods to his own demention he needs avatars like Wanda(she's no goddess) and Hela is a more powerful magic user plus she's Omniversal dude she literally traveled the Yggdrasil and she wasn't even at full power when Surtur at full strength killed her and destroyed Asgard which is literally a universe
@@auvqlicorice "MCU" You said? They meant Wanda is THE MOST POWERFUL character in the MCU at the moment, again MCU nerfs characters, Wanda isnt even like that in the MCU, in the comics she is so MUCH MORE. Wait til Dr. Doom is in, surely and I hope you know EVERYTHING about Doom, in the comics he defeated Wanda multiple times, absorbs powers and abilities from other characters, became God Emperor Doom, he made his own planet, he stole the Beyonder's power. Stan Lee wouldnt even say Wanda is THE MOST powerful character, because she isnt IN THE MCU. And people tend to forget Hela is a GODDESS. She was also a magic user, and knows a lot about magic in the comics, so stop whining and accept the truth, lol. If you cant, well live in your delusional beliefs, Im saying my side based on THE COMICS, which accuracy takes place in Marvel.
Hela is powerful, but you must admit it that SW is OP in MoM. She could single handed the illuminati and slaughter them one by one, only just dream walk in a weaker Wanda form.
@Ben Stokes Never was stated,shes featless in healing factor kid.Wanda was destined to destroy or rule the cosmos,she automatically outscales Hela,shes above her
Then how can Wanda even get close to Hela. Hela was the most skilled Asgardian in history. Wanda takes in her attacks from a distance while Hela takes in up close. Keeping enemies at their defense and never letting them get a chance to attack
@@Hydra-lb4dm Hela cant even use her comat,Wanda can just mind control her/collapse by telekinesis/use spells.She can effortlessly create hex and hela is gone.
scarlet witch is basically human level durability, Wanda still need some time to read the dark hold what if Thor hit Wanda with Storm breaker before Wanda use her powers
Strength Hela Speed Hela Agility Wanda Durability Hela Iq Hela Biq and experience Hela Power Hela Abilities and hax Wanda Skill and combat Hela Stamina and endurance Hela AP Hela Mom Wanda Offense Hela Defense Wanda Technique Hela Winner? Hela low diff
TBH Hela would win but she's probably gonna struggle since Wanda can teleport, create shields and telekinesis so it really won't be low diff probably mid diff
strength wanda speed wanda durability wanda hexes wanda offense wandA defense wand reality warping wanda that she wins all she warp the reality so scarlet witch wins
Scarlet witch always wins because she killed the illuminati without any struggles she destroyed the darkhold without any struggles and in the comics she killed Phoenix and mutants by saying no more mutants Phoenix
@@kartikeyhardainiya4365 Asgard provides Hela with power... So without asgard, she isnot so powerful... Darkhold provides only knowledge not power ! So even without darkhold, Scarlet Witch gets stronger in every minute because she draws her powers from chaos magic and elder god Chthon
I agree Hela wins ! Even if Wanda Can change the reality she can't change the fact that Hela is the god of death. Not to mention that Hela litteraly destroy Mjolnir, I really doubt that Wanda could do the same thing
Actually hela and Odin can do reality warp and they also have the Odin force to access. Hela and Odin are old warrior they have many magical power they know about chiton or darkhold book
@@notyourpageswap1628 I know chiton is above asgardian level but the fight is between Wanda vs hela where hela takes place in magical powers she already knows chiton and about the darkhold book she fought many wars she as more experience strength magic durability skill combat stamina Odin and hela can't face chhiton or scarlet witch at her full potential level but this should be fair fight base hela vs base wanda hela actually kill Wanda in base fight u know asgardian are resistance to magical power and also in many comics Odin ,Thor has fought many reality warp I mean they are resist to it they can Barely survive from the reality warp so the real clear winner is hela (not a fan boy may be ur )
@@georgeikezue4196 well hella is dead and Scarlet witch got way stronger bro they said she’s strong enough to rule or destroy the universe bro where u been lol
@@slipperychugger dude scarlet witch is also dead just so you know Odin couldn’t stop hela that’s why he banished her and you gonna tell me scarlet witch is stronger than Odin? Not even Thor could stop her lol bro go watch what if and stop the cap
@@georgeikezue4196 Bro hella is strong asf I’m not saying she’s not but Scarlet Witch is literally powerful enough to rule or destroy the universe and she’s not actually dead at the end of Dr.Strange 2 after she tried to kill her self if you pay attention there was a big flash of red light And you fail to realize hela gets a huge power boost from Asguard it self which is now destroyed and Scarlet Witch is a Nexus Being so even though hela is op asf scarlet witch would win that my g
@massimohack1367 Even if she can teleport she is absolutely no match to Scarlet Witch's mind control, telekinesis where she can crush her instantly and rip her intestines out. She can slaughter Hela on spot without struggling much.
