Hellish Quart - Longsword, weak vs. strong mechanics, some answers 

I whole-heartedly agree

For reals. We can wait and we’ll pay however much you want us to pay for a good game.

learn from your fellow Poles, don't rush.

My thoughts exactly.

That is why I support games like this, Manor Lords and Star citizen, rather than a rushed "AAA" title that has a billion bugs and at its release hardly can be called a AAA title. I rather see a long development where it is perfected than a rushed one with flaws that annoys me and then I have to wait until they fix it in their next game (if they even do that)

I just check the steam page and it says sp/split screen wtf it should have online pvp

@@Jacobson47 Anything online is hard to implement and if done badly is a buggy mess that is infuriating to play. i hope they add it as it would be a great feature but it shouldnt be rushed.

Hollywood needs to stop misperceive people with how swords work in movies and actually incorporate HEMA techniques in swordfight scenes.

Say the kid with a baseball bat

@@sapateirovalentin348 Lmao, i swear i didn't done this on purpose.

I guess

@@geovanneteixeira100 lol baseball kid

@@nuclear9977 Yeah, i just hope they add more longsword fighters.

exactly what i was thinking Abi

Yes, recolors of the fighter's outfits would be great.

Even something as simple as alternate clothing colours would make a world of difference, but let's let the man work on core features before addressing visual quibbles.

Sorta like On the rapier gal Like if player 1 chose the rapier character 1st The character will have the normal skin While if player 2 choosea the rapier character as well The character will be different Like have a plumed or feathered hat And also a leather camisole or justacorps

Yes, or maybe even let people customize their character so this game will look more appealing. I truly want people(or at least gamers) to know what real swordfight looks like

You have hema during COVID?

@@DwarfElvishDiplomacy just wear a mask over your helmet

@@staryided3773 ^ wear it OVER the helmet? I have worn a thin mask under the helmet.

@@kaizen5023 wearing it over the helmet lets everyone else to see that you're wearing one and it's actually safe to fight with you... if you exclude hematomas, fractures and other fun HEMA stuff from the "unsafe" list

@Toy yeah the body is pretty weird. You can even run around for a few seconds after a stab wound to the heart very often before falling over dead. If I were designing the game I'd have a system that creates a situation where the rate of blood lost depends on where you get hit. Out of 10 it'd be like heart-10, stomach-2, aorta-8/9 ect. Once the meter ran out the other guy would just collapse in the middle of the fight.

Thumbs up for bleedout system, but I think the game does a great job of allowing multiple minor stabs from the rapier yet can kill with just one good blow.

@@isaiahmendoza6394 i think the game 'stops' the fight at any fatal strike because realistically, if you struck a killing blow you could just hang back while your foe bleeds out. no need to advance and risk injury if the fight is already won. This translates into boring gameplay.

@@oceanbytez847 That's a valid point. you could get around that by giving the other person a speed buff while he's bleeding out so the other guy can't outrun him. It would serve as a balancing mechanic and would make sense because if you saw that you were losing blood quickly it would make sense that you'd get one last adrenaline dump out of physiological desperation.

Ok so you only need one hit to win eight? If my opponent start to bleed I'll just run away until I win

"Are you coding son ??!"

That's because the Hellish Quart developers are ACTUAL developers, with actual experience, tons of knowledge, and and aren't lazy sociopaths.

How to play with many champions and how onlin

Except for woman fighters (Sorry John, didn't see your comment)

Hollywood rarely has historical accurate fighting. It's all somersaults and needless spinning. It looks cool, but no one would have fought like that.

@@xL4RG0x Depends on the time and place. Women were barred from war most of the times, not fencing per say. Just like hunting was a male dominated activity, with women participating from time to time. That's how falconry began in the Bourgogne region. While "big events" were very codified, daily lives had some peculiarities not unlike today, especially when it comes to sports and free time among richer classes.

@@xL4RG0x The biological and cultural is exactly why those activities were develloped. As I said, they were barred from war, not fencing or hunting. Daily lives aren't "irrelevant". Battles and slaughter are not the only shapers of history. Hunting was very much a thing with women with, as I said, flaconry. Because biology. It wasn't lady-like to go ride a horse to skewer a boar, sure, but sending a pretty bird to catch small game? And that's the middle-ages. Slightly later on, they did ride with the men. Louis the XIV had a great friendship with his sister in law, the Palatine, who was an avid rider and hunter. As for fencing or other martial arts, women did learn to protect themselves (altho less likely in noble circles). A master-swordswoman wasn't likely to be seen, sure, but any man with soldiering experience worth his salt would have teached his wife and daughters to defend themselves. We know this from court reports and legal documents relating to assaults gone bad in self-defense. Women warriors are well documented, especially since they were indeed rare (note that at no point I say it's common. It isn't. Doesn't mean it's inexistent or unimportant). We have church ordinances forbidding women from going to war with men (The Christian Synod of Druim Cett), because it was a problem at the time. And a bit later Johannes Skylitzes refers to Kievan Rus attacks on the Byzantine, with women in armor found among the dead on the battlefield. Defense efforts in besieged cities also saw women take up arms, and I can think of two knightly orders that were born from it (the order of the Hatchet and the order of the Glorious Mary). Cultural norms are all well and good until somebody is trying to slice your throat.

@@k.v.7681 Bruh. I don't know about sending a pregnant woman into war though

I wasn't the only one thinking abt the old unique game😆

I think Kubold has access to enough HEMA experts in his home country. I imagine that the only problem right now is the pandemic making organizing motion capture sessions that much harder.

The grappling, in my mind, should not have to use a minigame, separated from the rest of the combat. Two players fighting with direction buttons over the center of balance may indeed be worth trying. I plan to get some HEMA people to perform this on mocap - I need two people anyway to record this.

@@Kubold U can look at PS MMA fighting game, I didn't have enough experience in it, but it is rather balanced in kicking and grapling. Also in longsword fencing u can add mini-game during bind vor-nah-indes and winden techniques, but it is german system. Not only with grapling.

@@Kubold But do you think that deeper wrestling mechanics actually fit the game's setting? I mean, it would fit a game set in Middle Ages really nicely but Ringen in XVII century dueling?

@@kamilszadkowski8864 Ringen, wrestling, clinch - whatever you call it, if someone grabs your sword hand, you need to do something. Right now it's a very simple mechanic in the game, that is intended to punish players who like to rush in and mash the buttons. It's always a big surprise for them when they get grabbed. But it would be cool if they could reverse the hold somehow - and of course, counter reverse the reverse. Each step more and more difficult to perform.