Hello Old Friend! (Yaesu FT-890/AT & a mystery device)

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How good is audio frequency DSP? In this video we explore third-party audio DSP, using a vintage radio from 1991. Watch for a future video where I do this with a Yaesu FTdx10.
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@Vinnie305 Год назад

I have an ft890 at and I absolutely love it I have had alot of radios out of all I had this one is the best

@n4hnhradio Год назад

The RX audio quality from my FT-890/AT is unrivaled. Paired with the DSP-59+, the 890 holds up fairly well against modern transceivers.

@skiptaggart8116 2 года назад

I just bought a FT-890AT and can't wait to try it out. Thanks for the great tutorial. It looks like that 59+ is rare as hens teeth in the used gear market. I'll keep an eye out for one.

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Yes, for some reason, the DSP-59+ doesn’t appear for sale very often. People must be holding onto theirs. My brother found a mint condition FT-890/AT and later obtained a DSP-59+ on eBay. It was only there for a short time and he grabbed it. Just keep checking the used market and maybe another will pop up. They do appear once in a while. Congratulations on getting the FT-890/AT. It has a wide-range tuner built in, something you don’t get in radios anymore. I used mine as a mobile after it was my base station for years. The tuner allowed me to work 10, 12, 15, 17, and 20 meters with one 10 meter ham stick. I’m considering putting it back into not my truck. My new radio’s tuner can only touch up my ham sticks for the one band they are made for. Enjoy one of the most fun transceivers that was ever made. 73, de N4HNH

@skiptaggart8116 2 года назад

@@n4hnhradio I bought the FT-890 for all the reasons you mention. I did a lot of comparisons and just waited until this model became available as my fist HF rig on a budget. I'm an apartment dweller so I will be hamstrung (pardon the pun) with antenna selection. The tuner was a must-have. Thanks again for a very useful demo of the FT-890 and the Timewave 59+. 73 de KK7DOY

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

I look forward to hearing about it. Welcome to HF radio! 73, de N4HNH

@brianumbrell4049 2 года назад

Love my FT-900AT's that I have.

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

My first eBay purchase was a FT-900, but it arrive scratched and broken, even though it was double-boxed and neither box was damaged. So the seller ripped me off. He made the shipping agent refund him for the entire price of $714 but he didn’t refund me. I eventually got my money back by disputing the transaction via my bank. I’m pretty sure I would have liked it. 73, de N4HNH

@VinylTherapy 2 года назад

I had the Dsp-9 that I used on my TS-450SAT and it worked really well. That’s a sweet rig you have there.

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Thank you! I wish Timewave still sold their DSP units. The next time I see one for sale, I think I should grab it, as a backup. 73, de N4HNH

@TaterFarmer154 2 года назад

Thanks much for the video and VinylObscura for the comment. I have a Timewave DSP-9+ that was given to me. I actually thought about just tossing it at one point then decided I might just sell it. Now I’m going to keep it and use it.

@polymath5119 2 года назад

Whoa. Need to find a good AF DSP for my Ten-Tec Corsair II.

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

It could breathe new life into an older radio. 73, de N4HNH

@philholmes5926 2 года назад

Have the FT-707, FT-890 and FT-650 fully filtered, 3 Fantastic radios from Yaesu that still hold there own even today, MFJ Tunable DSP Filter MFJ-784 is also a great alternative and not forgetting bhi dsp products.

@stevepatterson2290 2 года назад

my very first radio was a Yaesu 101EE then I bought a new 840 , 2 very nice radios

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

There’s something special about radios from those days. My FT-890/AT has given me many hours of communications enjoyment. 73, de N4HNH

@josemanuelperezrodriguez-hm8vw 11 месяцев назад

FT890AT ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@n4hnhradio 10 месяцев назад

Still one of my favorites. Won't sell it.

@ka5get 2 года назад

Hi Doug! Saw you on the DXE channel that I'm subscribed to and followed you to here. Subscribed as well. I have the 890AT as well snd love it. Going to be watching your videos to get to most out of that little guy as well as my FT-1000MP!! What are your thoughts on the TimeWave DSP-599zx compared to the DSP-59+ or DSP-9? Looks like the 599zx is a bit more avaliable. Many thanks for the great content!!

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Welcome to the channel! I won’t part with my FT-890/AT. Any version of the Timewave should be fine. The 599zx is the newer one. The auto-notch is better than IF auto-notch. It doesn’t affect the audio quality. 73, Doug

@ka5get 2 года назад

@@n4hnhradio Manu thanks Doug for the reply/info! Best 73.

@PT9KK 2 года назад

Based on your video, I grabbed earlier today a DSP-59+ that I will use with my FT-890 and TS-450S.

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Congratulations! I haven’t found any DSP-59+ available here since a couple of years ago. Every once in a while one shows up on eBay. I saw a DSP-9 at a ham fest. I did see the DSP-599zx on eBay. It should be good too. I think it was the last of the Timewave units. So good for you to find a DSP-59+. That unit and the FT-890 provided me with very many DX contacts. 73, de N4HNH

@PT9KK 2 года назад

@@n4hnhradio I have some hearing issues and don't know why the Yaesu FT-890 has the best RX audio. BTW, it would be great if you could make a video regarding the FTdx5000mp RX and TX equalizer. 73, PT9KK

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Those videos already exist. There are over 170 FTdx5000MP videos on my channel. 73, de N4HNH

@PT9KK 2 года назад

@@n4hnhradio Amazing!!!!

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Just look for the FTdx5000MP playlist. 73, de N4HNH

@marks2254 2 года назад

Interesting. I enjoyed this type of thing. .

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Older technology has some advantages. We cannot assume that newer technology is always best. The DSP and SDR era has made it possible for manufacturers to make less expensive radios while increasing their profit margin. They depend on our ignorance to make it possible. And enough of us are uninformed enough to fall for it, so I’m afraid the trend will continue. It is my opinion that Yaesu has struck the best balance between old and new, but their approach is still not perfect. It just represents the best available today, especially at an affordable price. Their hybrid approach has proven to be a good compromise. I just wish they would go back to analog noise blanker and Auto-notch. 73, de N4HNH

@vu3voc 2 года назад

I still have my FT 890 , have done a few mods and still works good. 73 AK4EC

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Great transceiver! Especially since it is up-conversion and 30 years old. The receive audio is so rich and organic. 73, de N4HNH

@SCzxjk 2 года назад

IT has everything one needs to operate.

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Indeed it does. I got it out a few days ago to talk to a friend. He is one state away. He was using his FT-890 also. It was fun. 100W into our ZS6BKW antennas and 59+15dB. We were on 40m. 73, de N4HNH

@northcarolina1993 2 года назад

I have a hard time emotionally selling my Icom 735, which I bought new at the Dayton Hamfest in 1992. Seems worth more than the $300 - 350 they typically sell for used. It is nearly mint condition after all these years. Production of the 735 went back to the late 1980's. They were considered mobile size and is identical in size to the Icom 7300. I sure you remember the Icom 735? Rated 4.8 out of 5 on eham with 124 reviews. N8LVR

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

I have a mint IC-725. I mentioned it in the part 2 video I will be publishing in a week or two. I’m considering a future video that features it with the DSP-59+. 73, de N4HNH

@northcarolina1993 2 года назад

There are quite a few differences in features between the 725 and the 735, although they are the same time period. Neither of them have 6 meters. On a different note, I must say you do a great job on your videos. Still thinking about the FT DX10. Already have 2 Icom 706mk2g's (first one bought used in 2006) and an Icom 7300. I believe I read several places that the Icom 706mk2g is the most purchased radio up to that point in time. Excellent radio. Some say the sales of 7300 are greater, which is probably true.

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Yes, noticeable difference. I guess ICOM can do that. Yaesu certainly made a huge change between FT-890 and FT-891. 73, de N4HNH

@nigelbrooks6756 2 года назад

The 890 looks awesome I've just purchased a ftdx 10 and I'm well pleased but I'm not going to part with my yaesu ft 950 and I'm definitely not getting rid of the first radio I brought in 2018 when I done the foundation license a yaesu ft 840 it's a great first radio and great value shame no IPO but att helps and it's got a proper old school s meter , going to try it portable next summer, thanks again for the videos

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

The FT-840, as you probably know, is built on the same architecture as the FT-890. Both great radios for mobile/portable operation. I used my FT-890 as a base station from 1991 until 1999. The DSP-59+ made it a tough contender with other transceivers of that era. 73, de N4HNH

@nigelbrooks6756 2 года назад

@@n4hnhradio great stuff , after owning the 840 for a while I went out and brought a small BHI speaker and wow the difference it made , for any body getting into the hobby with limited funds a yaesu ft 840 and a BHI NES mk3 speaker work great for the outlay. Thanks again 73 de 2e0nbk

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

I absolutely agree! And you see the FT-840 available on eBay and other used gear sites. 73, de N4HNH

@Pascal-F11DRE 2 года назад

Bonjour, Interesting comparative approach. I look forward to the test between this device and the FTdx-10. On my FTdx the DSP greatly distorts the audio to the HP. but I do not think I completely control the intricacies of the rules. Best Regards sir In French : Approche comparative intéressante. J'attend impatiemment l'essai entre cet appareil et le FTdx-10. Sur mon FTdx le DSP deforme enormement l'audio vers le HP. mais je pense que je n'en amitrise pas totelemnt les subtilités des regleges. Cordialement 73és

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

If you are hearing distortion in your FTdx10, you probably have DNF enabled. DNF is known to cause distortion. Again, some features were better executed in analog circuits. Noise Blanker is another. 73, de N4HNH

@taniajuedes7621 Год назад

Hi there, We have a yaesu FT-890AT and the Timewave DSP-59. We have the same set-up and new to the hobby. How do you hook up the DSP 59 to the 890?

@n4hnhradio Год назад

Congratulations! Welcome! The FT-890/AT is one of the greatest. Connect the line-in of the DSP-59+ to the external speaker connection on the radio. Then connect an external speaker to the DSP-59+ speaker connection. If you want to send the output of the DSP-59+ to a powered speaker, use the line-out connection instead. Be sure to connect the PTT of the DSP-59+ to the radio as well. The DSP-59+ needs to know when the radio transmits. 73, de N4HNH

@n1rbd 2 года назад

Second time I've heard W9ZN in your videos. He was doing Ben's Best Bent Wire during your 300Hz roofing filter video on the 5000. LOL

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Good catch!

@grs6262 Год назад

I hve the dsp 59, not the plus.. it was a good performer.. for my local noise today I use the CLR noise filter.. wonder what both of them would do?😏

@n4hnhradio Год назад

You could try setting them up in tandem. One might clean up what the other lets through. If you like this video, you might be interested in the one where I connect the DSP-59+ to the FTdx10 and compare the DSP in the FTdx10 to the DSP-59+.

@jamiecombs3359 2 года назад

I bought my FT890AT in 1994 right after I became a ham. I made a lot of great contacts on that rig so I would never part ways with it either. It’s been collecting dust now for 10 years or so and it needs some repairs. I really should get it fixed and get it on the air again. Awesome rig!

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

I encourage you to get it back on the air. After listening to these digital rigs, the rich sound of the FT-890 is refreshing. 73, de N4HNH

@rst5nn 2 года назад

Thank you! All these rigs have some kind of charm. Also air noise sounds more "natural" comparing with fully SDR rigs and IF AGC id also more pleasant to listen to comparing with SDR. This is just my humble opinion. I would never sold rig like this =)

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

There will be an upcoming video with the DSP-59+ connected to the FTdx10, comparing between the FTdx10 IF DSP and the DSP-59+ AF DSP. There are already videos on the channel comparing the FTdx10, hybrid SDR, to a IC-7300, full SDR. 73, de N4HNH

@paulhastings3109 2 года назад

Is still working on the backyard or the back 40 so I can get that stuff and turn it up in the air, I will get it as high as I possibly can until I can get my tower I'll put together but I'm only a lot of help from some friends around here. And I guess I'll find out who my friends are

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Indeed, times like that are when you find who your friends are. Be sure to keep the ladder/window line at least 18 inches away from metallic objects (i.e. tower, rain gutter, tool shed, etc. 73, de N4HNH

@TingILi 2 года назад

It is what one of I favor transceivers, I regret selling it a few years ago even added the Inrad filers and TCXO-3. How noob me is .... hahaha

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Oh no! The FT-890 is definitely one of the best. Mine was a great mobile rig after it was a base station. I will probably make it my mobile again. 73, de N4HNH

@josemanuelperezrodriguez-hm8vw 11 месяцев назад

yaesu's little giant. It has better reception audio than many larger and more expensive Yaesu devices.

@n4hnhradio 11 месяцев назад

Yes it does. Less chips, more discrete components, provides larger resonance cavity. If only it had the low phase noise of the FTdx5000MP.

@josemanuelperezrodriguez-hm8vw 11 месяцев назад

@@n4hnhradio Yes, I agree with you.

@WILLIAMPERRELLI Год назад

Does anyone know what the tuner ratio was? 10:1? Thanks William

@n4hnhradio Год назад

Yaesu published 16.5 to 150 Ohms, which is 3:1. But I know it could match more than that. Mine matched a 10m ham stick on 12 through 20m and it matched a G5RV everywhere from 10 through 80m.

@WILLIAMPERRELLI Год назад

@@n4hnhradio I agree. Thanks

@mikesmithg0rfd356 2 года назад

and the agc works well

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

Indeed it does.

@mabo4848 2 года назад

Hello.. how deep can you go with the voltage ? Because I want to use it with battery

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

The radio or the DSP unit? Both require 12vDC. They should operate down to maybe as low as 10.5vDC. The radio won't provide full RF power output at less than 12vDC.

@joekrepps 2 года назад

Thanks so much for posting this video! I've got older rigs (Kenwood TS-530S & 599D "Twins") and though they both have 500Hz CW filters, I've wondered if a Timewave DSP (or similar) would make an difference! I'd _really_ like to hear what you think makes the 890 a little better than the 891. (I'm guessing the NB.) I have an 891 that I originally wanted to use mobile but might become a POTA rig...if I don't haul the '530S with an external inverter, out into the parks. Dragging a 27lb. '530S + the Samlex pure sine wave inverter is less frustrating because of the single purpose buttons & knobs. Anyway...super grateful for this video! I admit...I have some Rig Envy for the high end rigs BUT...this gives me some real hope. 73 de WB3CFN...dit dit

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

You’re right! It’s the noise blanker. Other than that, the 891 rules. 73, de N4HNH

@WILLIAMPERRELLI Год назад

I had a new 890 and never shld hv sold it. A tank!! The receiver was very sensitive n selective. Ah, the tuner. It wld tune almost anything and no relays!!

@n4hnhradio Год назад

When I combine mine with the Timewave DSP-59+ it can almost compete with my FT-891. It won’t match it but it isn’t too far behind it.

@nailuj45 Год назад

With a 890at you can tune a spoon for hf...

@n4hnhradio Год назад

Ha! Yes, indeed.

@nailuj45 Год назад

@@n4hnhradio for m'y is the best, and it so good quality...

@paulhastings3109 2 года назад

Wow that's all I can say for now. I do have a question of patron I can text you in that mode but I haven't figured out how to do it yet. Or maybe I can't. Question on the ZS6BKV I have a section of coax That is 72' Can I snake it through the yard to get to my shack so I can hook up with that Through a antenna switch. It's also noticed that I can do FT 8 FT 4 . I know go I got to downloads from drivers 4 the 991 a. And if I do that I have to go into the menu is that gonna change anything I do when I go to sideband mode. And I do appreciate your content and your sincere about about amateur radio help people learn. And I thank you for that. I know I missed the bunch of questions that won't ask but I guess I'll have to write them down and then asked them later. 73 KQ4CD

@n4hnhradio 2 года назад

72 feet of coax is perfect. You can route it anyway you wish. Just be sure that the window line comes straight down from the center and doesn’t touch the ground or a metal object. The settings for FT8 should not impact the SSB settings. 73, de N4HNH

@paulhastings3109 2 года назад

@@n4hnhradio the setting in the main menu