alot of people dont like Hell's Angels but i have much respect for them... when my siblings and i was little they brought us christmas presents one year because we had nothing .... So for those out there who think they are all bad its not true ... Much Love Hell's Angels
never saw anything like you describe, in fact I witnessed two hangarounds that left the club and non of them had to pay anything, non of them lost his bike, non of them was beaten nor killed. In fact they still come to club occasionally. I have witnessed one of police raid, they rammed unlocked doors, made a lot of noise, dragged people over the ground and found nothing. So they confiscated delaborated decoration arms from wall and showed them in TV as a success of the raid, very criminal...
well I know some of them personally for years, Im going to their local clubhouse regularly, I saw pictures of many clubhouses, I know inside of house/flat of some members. So the biggest question, If I should believe the criminal organization nonsense is, WHERE THE HELL IS THE MONEY? Go see yourself. Yes there are some rich members, but most of them where rich even before club time, and there are also pretty poor members working in jobs I wouldnt work. Go to nearest clubhouse, speak with them...
Sonny never admitted in his book that he planed to bomb out rival clubhouse, he has written that he was ACCUSED of doing it by, as you describe, shady LE officers. He was waiting the trial behind bars but was pledged innocent by judge at the end and set free, this is not doing a jail time. He was doing a jail time for something else few years later. Another proof of your poor education, that every reader here can proofread in Sonnys book.
another BS, the 1% they use since Hollister, where the press made false picture of motorcyclist as a raw troublemaker "outlaw". The AMA was saving the situation telling that 99% motorcyclist are law abiding citizens. The MCs said, knowing that they didnt do any wrong in Hollister, that they will rather be the 1%er "outlaws" then obey a lied out laws and media truths. No one of them braked the law in Hollister. Every one can read about it, so their goes your creditability, you loose.
so you witnessed some crimes done by them? Ah, you have heard that they did some, and you watched some TV shows about criminal MCs (I mean gangs). So again answer my simple question, WHERE THE HELL IS THE MONEY, or do I misunderstand the purpose of a criminal organization? Are there members who committed a crime? Hell yes, same is in every organization even Government or Police. But there are majority of members who dont commit crimes. Most violence was escalated by undercover agents.
nope, I was joust pointing you out to the fact WHO is calling them a criminal organization and WHO is giving you all the information and "evidence". Dont rely on government info, nor on media BS, collect your information directly and personally. You may find a different view on this topic.
actually yes, they do. The 1%er clubs are themselves describing as Outlaws thats true, but what law is mean? They follow the Constitution the only law thats guaranties your freedom, all else was established by Government to take you those rights away. in that case I want be outlaw too. LE agencies spend millions of YOUR money, why not its a good business for them.
well all I know about bloods and co. is from TV, we dont have them near by. I really dont have answer to this topic. And no there is no logic to compare the HAMC with them, sorry different topic. And what my exact words would you use?
well living near DAGO charter doesnt make you person who ever spoke to HAMC member. Almost every single charter makes some open house party on regular base. So far you have proof only one thing, that you have no clue and never ever spoke to living HAMC member in person.
Right, do you not realize that your entire argument could be used to say that the bloods, crips, or la eme are not gangs either? Seriously, I could use your EXACT words to say they aren't gangs either. Do you think they are gangs or not?
You must be kidding, Do you really believe that 99% of HAMC members where doing jail time? Then there is no help for you, you are lost. So you tell me that they sell weapons one pistol a weak to be able to buy some booze or what? Show the crowd here more of your wisdom, now I really know you are just another cop, no one else does have this level of intelligence.
I dont care if blodos and co are gang, its OUT OF TOPIC. We are talking about HAMC here and I dont see here any connection. What proof do you mean? You starting to talk weired. Just remember one thing, dont use those nicknames you gave me here when you talk to HAMC member, dont even use "dude". Its not showing respect by any means, and it might be harmful to you.
Wow, so you think outlaw just means following the constitution? You should actually look up the definition of outlaw because it doesn't say ANYTHING about that. Do you even know where the outlaw bikers got their designation as "1%ers"? It had to deal with breaking the law. Not following the constitution. You are seriously just a laugh for me. This is so embarrassing for you. And you don't have any clue. I'm dying to hear what you'll say next.
