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Herbert 2D Capstan Lathe & Quick Update . 

Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop.
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It's Spring . Winter is over & it's still pissing with rain most days , bringing
The new shop progress to a halt .

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13 сен 2024

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@jonsworkshop
@jonsworkshop 2 года назад
Lol Max, I want to live there "winters over and that's the last of the rain" its like that all year long here in Scotland! Used to work Herbert 2, 4, 8 & 9's in my past, fantastic machines. If you use one every day, you become part of it..... I used to be rapid traversing the capstan up to the work with my right foot whilst turning with both hands on the saddle and cross slide on the 8 & 9. Often had a big boring bar going down the centre at the same time (and feed) as a tool going down the outside diameter (not many CNC's capable of that)! Shed looks great. Cheers, Jon
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Lol , i have done my fair share on Ward's & i soon learnt that i never wanted to be that attached to them ! Hopefully this is the last of the rain for about 9 months . Cheers .
@iancraig1951
@iancraig1951 2 года назад
You had a very interesting working life---thanks for sharing that..Ian
@andrewwilson6085
@andrewwilson6085 5 месяцев назад
Hi, I have a Herbert 4senior pre- optive of ww2 vintage. It is used daily, is the most used machine we have, and is still accurate. Great video, best wishes from Britain
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 5 месяцев назад
Thanks . I am looking foward to getting my one running . Cheers 👍
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 2 года назад
That lathe is going to be a beauty. Its' amazing how smooth it all is.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes , they were made to work .
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 2 года назад
By Ek Max I thought I was in in England. Progress,,,? We have an out door swimming pool. Love the Herbert 2D Old skooooool technology. A1+ with hons. Brilliant video Max. Tony
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks Tony .
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 2 года назад
Gday Max, the Herbert is going to be a nice machine, not a bad drop of rain you had there, thanks for the update, have a great weekend mate, Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks Matty . Cheers .
@OldIronMachineWorks
@OldIronMachineWorks 2 года назад
Max, that's more rain than we got all last year. Nice addition to the shop. Gary
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks Gary . The rain is still hanging around . I am ready to start sheeting the new shop tomorrow , so i hope i don't get held up . Cheers .
@jakebronger3568
@jakebronger3568 2 года назад
good to see Gary here!
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 2 года назад
That lathe is a gem. That was absolutely no waste of money.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers Rusty . Looking at the dealer tag , it's come from over your neck of the woods at some time in it's life .
@Just1GuyMetalworks
@Just1GuyMetalworks 2 года назад
Wow, a lot of power packed into that little lathe! Super cool machine. That's gonna make for some excellent content 😁. Well, pretty sure I could handle your winters, the summers though... 🤣😵. Cheers mate!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
I am hoping there is not too much wrong electrically . The rest is all pretty well bullet proof . They were made to run 24 hrs a day 7 days a week for a bloody long time .
@Warped65er
@Warped65er 2 года назад
Thx for the vid Max. The Herbert looks like it will be a great asset in the shop once you've spent a little time with her.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks . I think it will be first in line out of several machines for a good birthday . Cheers .
@TopperMachineLLC
@TopperMachineLLC 2 года назад
Nice machine Max. Can't wait to see it running. I sure like having my Warner Swasey No.4. Mine is set up with coolant and spade drills for rough boring. Saves me a ton of time.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes , your one is a good size to have . This little one will do the job i have in mind for it . Cheers .
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 2 года назад
I love turret lathes Max. Ran #3 and # 4 Warner Swasey. And some 1a and 2a's. Worked in Aerospace, collet machine and chuckers. Great horse power. Powerful machines. You can do alot of work if you have all the tooling. Great content. Thanks Max, EM. .
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers Mate . Yes they were built to work !
@jdmccorful
@jdmccorful 2 года назад
Things moving along. Good to see the progress. Luck with that lathe.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers John .
@petermcneill80
@petermcneill80 11 месяцев назад
Very nice lathe, hope you are able to get it up and running and enjoy using it 👍🏻
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 11 месяцев назад
Hopefully start on it next year . I have a specific job for it . 👍
@danielabbey7726
@danielabbey7726 2 года назад
That capstan lathe will be quite useful for small production runs, Max. Alfred Herbert LTD of Coventry was one of the largest machine tool firms on the planet, back in the 1960s.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
It will be a useful machine to have . I have a production job for it when it is up & running . Cheers .
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 года назад
Hello Max, Really looking forward to seeing the Herbert lathe in action... hopefully you will walk us through the best approach to getting the maximum production rate with a capstan lathe... See you on the next one... Cheers. Paul,,
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks Paul . Can you keep an eye out in the UK for a parts break down if you ever come across one . Cheers .
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 года назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop I just setup a saved search on eBay, Hopefully I will find what you need...
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
@@TheKnacklersWorkshop Thanks Mate .
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 2 года назад
Awesome lathe….so that is what rain looks like, haven’t seen that in California as we are dry as a bone…
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks Chuck . I thought Calif had a similar climate to ours , saying that we are just about to start out dry seasons . Cheers .
@davesalzer3220
@davesalzer3220 2 года назад
Cool old machine. Can’t wait to see it run.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Same here ! Thanks .
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 2 года назад
Damn max you could go kayaking in your yard , good looking lathe, great video, keep'um coming.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers . At least it pretty well soaks away quickly with the sand we have here .
@705johnnyboy
@705johnnyboy 2 года назад
used it alot when i was an apprentice ,loved it
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks John .
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 2 года назад
Thanks for the update, mate!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
No worries . Cheers .
@fishermanyt8187
@fishermanyt8187 2 года назад
Beautiful piece of kit there Max, bit of a wipe down and some oil, she’ll be ready to get back to work. Workshops coming along nice, won’t know yourself once you get a roof on and start getting all the gear setup. That’s going to happen fast enough. Thanks and see you on the next one Brian
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks . I am doing my best to get the shop pretty well finished for the end of the year . Cheers .
@peterpocock9062
@peterpocock9062 2 года назад
She'd is looking good Max. The Herbert looks like a great project. I'll look forward to your efforts there. It pisses down here in Albany too, don't feel as tho you are the only one getting a wet Arse!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers Peter .
@gordonburns8731
@gordonburns8731 2 года назад
My late mother operated one of these during the war.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Great to hear . I always like the machine shop footage & pictures from back then , what they did was really cool . Could you imagine our younger generation being able to do that ! Cheers .
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 2 года назад
Those are the kind of down pours I get almost weekly here in the mountains. I will search around and see what I can come up with for a parts manual for your 2d.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Hey thanks Tom . Cheers .
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 2 года назад
Mr. Max....the Herbert is a sweet little machine.....love your shop you are building....best wishes from USA, Florida, Paul
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks Paul . Cheers .
@alasdairhamilton1574
@alasdairhamilton1574 2 года назад
That weather looks like a typical summers day here in northeast Scotland 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Bloody Nora , I am glad to be in a warmer country ! Cheers .
@davidcolwill860
@davidcolwill860 2 года назад
I have a 2D (and a number 1). The bits you are missing also include a mechanism for interrupting the auto feed to break chips. I may have spares of some or all of these parts but am not sure how practical it would be getting them to you from the UK. I will try to have a look at the weekend if you are interested.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
That sounds great . If you are able to , email some pictures & we will go from there . theswanvalleymachineshop@gmail.com Thanks .
@smalltownmachineshop6860
@smalltownmachineshop6860 2 года назад
That is a super cool lathe, iv always loved turret lathes
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
They are solid old things , built to work 24/7 . Cheers .
@chattonlad9382
@chattonlad9382 2 года назад
R.I.P. Herbert. Their machine tools were second to none. The price was the only issue.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes . And along with Ward , another one of the many that is no longer . Cheers .
@billythebake
@billythebake 2 года назад
Looking forward to seeing your new shed up, looks like it's going to be brilliant
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks .
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining 2 года назад
herbert lathe is very good machine
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes , nice & solid . Thanks Mate .
@Mark_How
@Mark_How 2 года назад
Just like South Africa, heavy spring rains and Herbert capstan lathes
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Lol !
@howder1951
@howder1951 2 года назад
Nice project lathe Max, it looks like a lot of possibilities in your future, thanks and cheers!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks .
@lesthompson5907
@lesthompson5907 2 года назад
had one of them 17 yeast ago still got some of the colitis that they used yes I maid a collet chuck for the colitis so i could ues them. the lathe went with the goliaths chuck . on it my molester master runs my clit chuck & Herbert colitis . the collet chuck I designed , as the ability to use 2J Collet's & C5 & ER Collets to with interchangeable sleeves.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
I might set it up to run 5C collets one day . The job i have for that lathe will run a 3 jaw with soft jaws .
@christophercullen1236
@christophercullen1236 2 года назад
That looked like my place last night , but it flow through the work shop sub tropical life ! Christopher from Queensland
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Through the workshop is wild !
@simpleman283
@simpleman283 2 года назад
Right on Max, cool stuff coming. 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers Mate .
@markfoster6110
@markfoster6110 2 года назад
Same weather here !! Still locked down a right bugger hi from Canberra ..
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes , we have been bloody lucky in the West to avoid the worst of the lock downs .
@techronmattic5876
@techronmattic5876 2 года назад
Nice little lathe max, be good to some tin go on the workshop
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Next week hopefully !
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 2 года назад
G'day Max, nice to see you getting a light sprinkle lol Wonderful lathe, I used to run a 3D capstan, when we first had a shop .
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers Ralfy . Hopefully it's the end of the rains in a couple of days for several months . Cheers .
@glennmoreland6457
@glennmoreland6457 2 года назад
Here's a fun fact on the Alfred Herbert works in Coventry: The main machine shop at Herbert's was over 1/2 mile long making it the largest machine shop in Europe and one of the largest in the world at its height... Probably why the Luftwaffe paid Coventry a visit....although they weren't able to knock it out of production... I have a lineshaft drive Herbert No. 4 from around WW1 era...🇬🇧🙂
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Sounds like a massive place . Cheers .
@melgross
@melgross 2 года назад
It’s funny Max that sitting here in New York City I often wonder why your weather is so screwy, while forgetting that below the equator your seasons aren’t in sync with ours.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
We have just started Spring here . Cheers .
@melgross
@melgross 2 года назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop we’re just starting fall.
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy 2 года назад
Nice lathe Max. You're going to have a great shop
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers Randy .
@machineshopatthebottomofth3213
@machineshopatthebottomofth3213 2 года назад
Looking good max. Always surprises me how little capstan machines fetch. Even in a cnc job shop I could see use for one of those in the corner for 5 off type jobs.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes . I don't want my other lathes tied up doing work i have planned for this one . Cheers .
@stovepipe666
@stovepipe666 8 месяцев назад
Looks decent enough machine considering its age max handy tool to have in any shop I just done up a ward 3ds capstan 1961 and it’s still making good parts
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks . I was after a Ward 3 but the only one i could find was a garden ornament at the coffee shop just down the road ! They were built to run 24 hrs a day , 7 days a week . Solid machines , plenty of power to spare . I spent a lot of time on Ward 7C & 7D machines . 👍
@ianlangley987
@ianlangley987 2 года назад
Hi Max, Looks like a good buy with your Herbert 2D lathe. I remember many small production shops here in NZ had these types of lathes and from memory they went well. 2500 RPM is pretty good for an old machine so it must have some good bearings on the main spindle. Cheers Ian
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Hi Ian . Yes it surprised me as well the 2500 speed . Cheers .
@MrCongvong2002
@MrCongvong2002 8 месяцев назад
still run good
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
It will when rebuilt . I have a specific long term job for this machine . 👍
@captcarlos
@captcarlos 2 года назад
The shed is looking a nice size. Shed envy I've got. Doing fantastically for one out, with all the rest of that s##t of life.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks Carl . Cheers .
@AaronEngineering
@AaronEngineering 2 года назад
G’day Max. Bloody pissing down over there mate. Wild weather we’ve been having lately. Earthquake in Melbourne and a tornado in NSW. Mate, I love that capstan lathe of yours. She’s a bloody beauty. Is the roof next on your shed build? Cheers 🍻. Aaron
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Doing the walls next week if all goes to plan , then the roof . Yes , the weather is a bit crazy at the moment alright .
@ianbertenshaw4350
@ianbertenshaw4350 2 года назад
When it is wet outside better make sure you are wet on the inside - perfectly good excuse to drink beer - it is raining !
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Only when i am not working on the roof ! Cheers .
@TedRoza
@TedRoza 2 года назад
Hi Max .. Great video, thought that I was the only one that watched the water level ... lol .. If you ever need Noah's Ark, you can always take Herbert for company .. lol Seriously You have a Great restoration or repair video coming up & everyone will be eagerly awaiting it .. 😀 😄 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Cheers Ted . I have a few restorations to do , and i hate doing them . I would rather be machining !!!
@theeddies
@theeddies 2 года назад
Nice machine Max and lovely weather. Looking forward to the new shop coming together. I wonder if I might pick your brain? You are maybe the only person I know who might have some experience with this type of job. I have a boat trailer axle that I need to shorten. It is just square tubing about 5 feet long with spindles welded on each side. The trailer and boat are light weight, much less than 1000 lbs. I was thinking of cutting it, inserting a 12" long square bar, that I have and fits tight inside the tube, to span the cut. Plug welding that in a few places and welding up the gap. Do you think that would be enough or should I think about plating the outside as well. I appreciate it if you had any thoughts. All the best! Eddie
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Hi Eddie . I think your plan will be fine . As long as the square is a neat fit inside & everything is welded correctly there will be no problem .
@theeddies
@theeddies 2 года назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop Thanks Max! I appreciate it.
@Brian-nj7oj
@Brian-nj7oj 2 года назад
I live in Coventry where these were made, two big factories
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
It would have been good to see back in the day . 👍
@grahamsengineering.2532
@grahamsengineering.2532 2 года назад
Very nice Max. Was looking at getting one of these but I think I've got enough machines now hehe. Max I thought you'd be getting that roof on first.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Hi Graham . I can not trust the strong easterly winds to do the roof first . With the walls first ( klip loc 700 ) it makes the structure super ridgid as compared to trimdeck types of sheeting . The roof first would have been nice ! Cheers .
@grahamsengineering.2532
@grahamsengineering.2532 2 года назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop Hey Max fair call with the wind factor. I ended up buying the Herbert 2D that I was looking at on the Gold Coast. For a machine built in 1945 it is in very good condition. Don't try to scrap the main bed ways as they're hardened. I put a mill file on one corner and it just skated over it.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
@@grahamsengineering.2532 The ways look good on this one . Just chasing a couple of missing parts . A guy in England has some of the missing parts in his shed ! Hey , got the first few sheets up on the roof yesterday . Too windy today , bloody Easterlies ! Cheers .
@Brian-nj7oj
@Brian-nj7oj 2 года назад
There is a 5 minute film on RU-vid "Alfred Herbert Factory Covrntry" . We have two of these at the place where unworkable now, made in the 60's
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Thanks , i will have to have a look . 👍
@chuirios365
@chuirios365 2 года назад
In the US we call that lathe a Turrit lathe.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes , i have come across that before with you guys over there . Traditionally a turret lathe has the turret carriage run on the main ways & a capstan has the turret run on a separate set of ways . Weird how terminology can change from country to country . Must be because we generally follow the British ways a lot . Hey , how is the recovery going . Cheers .
@randydeboer832
@randydeboer832 2 года назад
That was alot of rain, The lathe will come in handy in the new shop good find!! Just asking how cold do your winter get? Thanks for the update.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Hi Randy , our coldest weather is about 4 or 5 deg C & that is not that often .
@jamespayne8781
@jamespayne8781 2 года назад
I’ve got a #3. Surprisingly similar though obviously not identical. 4000 lb 9x19 lathe.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
A No 3 Ward would be my choice , but you hardly ever see turret & capstan lathes come up for sale any more . I think they all ended up in the scrap yards , no longer required but still in good condition .
@jamespayne8781
@jamespayne8781 2 года назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop Yes, plus they were enormously expensive compared to a normal engine lathe or tool room lathe so there weren’t nearly as many floating around to begin with. Today you can buy a Chinese CNC machine that can do most of the same things for not much money and the aftermarket is full of them.
@NskLabs
@NskLabs Год назад
Truly nice lathe, can it take a feed turning cut the saddle being so narrow?
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Год назад
Yes , but it would be best done with a roller box mounted in the turret . 👍
@NskLabs
@NskLabs Год назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop What do You mean by roller box? I am considering buying one such lathe, there is an offering near me, but it could be trash, will have to check it out. However, I cant seem to find online if the lathe has power slide feed (not the cross slide), would You be willing to let me know if the wheel on the left (Z axis wheel) has a power feed from headstock? Thanks.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Год назад
@@NskLabs The wheel on the left is hand feed to the carriage . No power feeds except for the capstan slide the turret mounts on . A roller box is a tool that has 2 rollers to support the work for heavy cuts . Google Tonys Lathes UK .
@NskLabs
@NskLabs Год назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop Wow, thanks for your help, I will definitely have to test the lathe to see if it'll fit my needs. So there may be a more detailed video about that, will see, the machine in question is however in bit of a rough state / missing covers and such.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Год назад
@@NskLabs They are a production lathe . A bit of a pain to use as a general purpose machine.
@garygracie4616
@garygracie4616 5 месяцев назад
I have a wiring diagram for it if you want a copy. I'm in Toodyay. Let me know . Gary
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 5 месяцев назад
Hey , thanks . I will see if there is anything in the manual i have . Are you able to email me , it's in the channel description . 👍
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 2 года назад
What size is the new shed? 10m x 20m?
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
Yes 10m x 20m with 3m wide verandah's down both 20m sides as part of the main roof .
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 2 года назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop nice, I've got an acre and looking to build similar size but think it will be too eccy. Guessing around the 50k+ mark?
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 2 года назад
@@mannycalavera121 Probably about that . My one is a custom design by myself . Built a lot stronger than the kit sheds . Bluescope Steel have pushed steel prices up heaps in the last few months as well .
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 2 года назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop yeah seen that, like 20%. Nuts it moves so much
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