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"This is just an absolute life-wrecker. How do you overcome it?" The director actually said in interviews that that is very much the tale that he wanted to tell; there are lots of movies of people going through trauma and coming out stronger and hopeful at the end, but he wanted to showcase that sometimes, trauma consumes people entirely and they never come back from it. He wanted to almost kind of "honor" the level of suffering those people face. You don't open your car door to your decapitated daughter's body lying there and ever really come back from that.
Exactly. My aunt lost her kid, my cousin, in a very sudden and violent way. The trauma consumed her. She didn't become stronger, she sank down into the darkness and is still there a decade later.
That reminds me about the ending of smile. It’s telling its audience that trauma can’t be resolved easily and it unfortunately doesn’t end well for those going through it.
The honoring still doesn’t make sense to me when it involves the depth of evil. Is his honoring to say that those in such trauma become stained in darkness like a possession? I think it’s BS to explain his weird a*s desires of creation. He could’ve done what he said he intended to without invoking what he did.
That moment in the cinema when she hit her head on the pole, the entire audience recoiled back. And then we all just sat in silence curled up in our seats. Also, the actor playing the brother did one of THE best performances of what being in shock looks like.
The entire sequence after the decapitation hit about 10 times harder on the big screen. Watching it on a computer is a little less impactful, but in the theater you could not escape Peter's stoic, shocked expression while hearing the wailing. It was crushing.
Damn - I just saw this movie tonight, I can't even imagine seeing it at the theatre; I'd probably have a heart attack from all the stress and heartache 🥹
@@The_LaughingHyenaone of the best theatre experiences I’ve had lol the collective mood you could hear coming out of the theatre when it came out was “what the fuck just happened in there?? What did we just experience?” 😂
A modern horror masterpiece imo also Toni Collette was robbed of an Oscar cause wow this performance was just masterful and haunting as is the whole movie love it
This movie does get better with repeat viewings where you catch new things you missed the first time. The fact that a lot of shots look like the doll house shots, but then become real. When you realize when Annie talks about her brother committing suicide when he was 16 because he said the mom was trying to put people inside of him, he was actually telling the truth. When you realize that some of Peter's friends in school were also in the cult, and had helped set up the events that transpired to Charlie's eventual death. That the cult symbol was on the pole that killed her. I really enjoyed it, and it is unsettling like a lot of A24 films (The Witch, Midsommar, and Hereditary).
@@galacticcbitxh3641 it’s the one in the blue hoodie when they’re smoking under the bleachers. You seem him bowing in the treehouse at the end. In fact, you start to wondering if he poisoned the weed he smokes as part of the ritual.
The sneaky link sent me!! 🤣I loved every freaking moment of this reaction. I've been so excited for this reaction, and of course, it was worth the wait!
Spoilers in case you haven't watched the film: A lot of the film was explained when Annie (Toni Collette) was at her grief meeting, "her mother suffered from DID (dissociative identity disorder), her father starved himself out of “psychotic depression,” and her older brother was a schizophrenic who killed himself, leaving a suicide note accusing their mother of “putting people inside him.”" They were attempting to put Paimon into a male host for quite a while but failing to do so because the prospective hosts were killing themselves before the ritual could be completed. Everything was set up by the cult which is why the symbol was located in quite a lot of places, including the telephone as Zuff correctly pointed out, noticing this time around. The events of the film were to deliberately wear Peter down to become a worthy vessel. When Annie was sleepwalking and attempting to stop her children from being born it/ continuing to live was potentially a subconscious way for her to stop her children from becoming targets to the cult. Also, Annie mentioned not allowing her mother to "sink her hooks into Peter, but she allowed her to have Charlie." Which is why they were finally able to put Paimon into Charlie's body, but they had to set up killing her to transfer him into Peter. Throughout the film, Charlie was seen creating figures used in various places for the different rituals, so Paimon was being a bro and helping the cult out, especially with the one he made from the bird's head that they put in Joan's place. This is absolutely a film you have to watch more than once to notice more things or watch explanations of to catch all of the Easter Eggs in it. Such a phenomenal film, it's one of my favorites. Toni Collete's dinner scene alone *chef's kiss! Lastly, Alex Wolff suffered PTSD after filming this movie, and in his classroom freak-out scene he wanted to slam his face on a real desk so it was as believable as possible. But of course, legally they couldn't let him, he actually did it on a hard desk that just had a "foam" top but it hurt so much still that he was glad they didn't let him use the real desk. And the scene when he's saying "mommy sorry" in the attic he patterned after when combat heroes call for their loved ones when they are afraid they are going to pass away. I will try to share the links in another comment to the articles, in case RU-vid tries to delete them or something.
Damn, didn’t know Alex had PTSD. I always wondered how Ari Aster, Robert Eggers (The Witch) and the guy from The Smile can just write/direct these movies and go about their lives. It’s disturbing to watch it once, imagine being exposed to it for a long time, nope!
@@bzporto because especially directors don't really immerse themselves as deep into it as someone like an actor. Often they probably come from a place of personal experience or something they want to bring to light, but the production is generally nothing like the general vibe to the film. It can be somber during specific scenes, but overall it's a bunch of people vibing and dicking around until it all comes together. The actors usually take more a mental toll embodying the characters, both in terms of some mental fatigue and definitely physical, like fucking up the nose or sustaining other injuries. Seeing behind-the-scenes footage and stories of the production of 'horrific' movies like Terrifier 2 with the cast goofing around with blood spatters and prosthetics, rewriting scenes with actors to make it more over-the-top and a technical challenge, or just writing a whole new movie like Ti West and Mia Goth did with Pearl. Horror movies usually are miles and miles more upbeat and playful than the end result can be.
@@laveyanist Actors being immersed in it sounds tuff, no wonder there’re lot’s of them going trough hard times after a heavy load of a character. But being the on in control, being the one having to come up with creative solutions for what ever goes wrong, having to always have the story and the characters in mind (all of them, not just one), feeling responsible for others, that has got to be tough too.
My favorite scene is the dinner table scene. I agree with Rob that it feels like she's scolding me directly. I sink down in my seat every time I see it.
Annie’s Mother and her cult have been doing spells on the family their whole lives. When Annie was in the group therapy she told the story of her brother being schizophrenic but it was really the mother putting spells on him. She tried to put Paimon in his body and he killed himself. Then she moved on to Peter but Annie wouldn’t let her near him. Then she went after Charlie once they reconciled: then she had to switch bodies for Paimon to have a male host. You should watch one of the videos explaining it all. I think the students and teacher were in the cult too. And the kids at the party.
There was a deleted scene I really like of Peter crying to his dad about how he wants to die and his dad is comforting him, it was cut because the director didn't want it to seem like there was any family "togetherness" or comfort in the movie. It's still a great scene though, Alex Wolfe did a great job
"I didnt I was trying to save you". During her pregnancy/nightmare she subconsciously knew her son would be used as a vessel for Paimon and she tried to stop it
This movie is so traumatizing! I live by myself and work remotely from home. I decided to watch it one night at like 2am while I was working late. It was a mistake! 😂 I did not sleep that night.
Apart from the running out of the corner, I didn't think it was too bad More like a dramatic tragedy? Sad drama? With some funny moments I might rewatch
FuckIng CRYING at “who’s that man with his willy out?” Do Americans even say willy? I feel like this is the first time I’ve ever heard a non-Brit say willy I’m fucking dead I feel like I’m delirious with the stress of this film.
Honestly the quality is really good, especially for a web cam 😊 really appreciate you guys always pulling out all the stops to get the videos out and they’re always such a fun time 😊
What they have here is a failure to communicate. They could have put all of this together faster if anyone in this family actually talked to each other. Stephen didn't tell any that her mother's grave had been dug up, Annie didn't ask questions like "what's Satony?" when she saw it written on Charlie's wall, Charlie didn't tell her parents that someone was standing in a ring of fire on their property, Peter didn't tell his parents about the accident, Annie didn't tell anyone she was meeting with a support group, she didn't tell anyone about Joan, Peter didn't tell anyone there was a lady across from school grounds screaming at him, Annie didn't tell anyone she was seeing strange things, she never even asked her mother what the symbol was on the necklace she'd given her and why her friends have it too. No one talked about the strange things that happened at the seance after it was over. Annie once even tried to kill Peter once, and no one talks about it, she clearly should have gotten therapy and maybe have been separated from her family for awhile. Everyone just ignores things and hopes they will go away. In a way this movie is all about how bad things happen when you don't communicate.
well charlie wouldn’t have told her anything though, would she? charlie WAS paimon so everything that happened she wanted to happen. but yes, you’re right. nothing was addressed and they paid for it.
@@ibuprofriends Well, IS there a Charlie in there somewhere? She is possessed by Paimon, but that doesnt' necessarily mean that she herself IS Paimon. has no separate consciousness. She said grandma wanted her to be a boy; she never said SHE wants to a be a boy. Charlie is a creepy, unpleasant person, but she didn't project herself as having a strong will to power. At the end, she is being addressed as "Charlie" still and not Paimon", and she doesn't look happy about the situation she's currently in, she looks confused and frightened.
@@moonlily1ari aster said himself that charlie has never been charlie. she was always paimon. “paimon” responds to charlie because he’s been in charlies body since she was born, he’s essentially been raised on earth as charlie
Even if they communicated those weird events I doubt they would ever come to the conclusion that a cult was using her children’s bodies to reincarnate a demon lol what
@@xxxmochibaby Well, Annie DID come to that conclusion, though. Would anyone else have? Probably not, at least not Stephen, he's not part of their bloodline. However, they might have concluded figured out (by the Ellens's photos and writings) that Ellen was a member- leader, even- of a cult and that the family was being stalked by her bretheren for purposes THEY believe in, and can do them harm, without actually sucessfully possessing anyone. They could have figured out they need to get file a police report and get the fuck out of town.
i really love that this movie starts off like serious family drama that spirals into a horror. it's definitely one of those movies that you see multiple times and you pick up a lot of shit you didnt see the first time. Like, every time you see a random naked person, they were always there if you paid close attention to details in the background and the day/night transition shots. Sidenote: but like most horrors, this reaction would've benefitted more from watching it alone. like whenever i watch anything with my friends it's much less scary
Instant classic, this movie is a new horror classic and my personal favorite of all time. No other movie has made me feel dread like this one, the scene with the piano wire made me feel genuine horror. Ari Aster will be remembered for all time because of this one.
This movie was not just scary, it was stressful to watch. The first time I watched it I couldn't finish the movie because I genuinely did not want to see what happens at the end.
The name Joan freaks me out cause my grandma used to live in a senior home, her friend there was named Joan. Joan had no family or children so she was like a part of our family, and when I went to study abroad for a year I got a facebook message from Joan. She was just like "Hi" and I said 'Hi' back and she saw it. I messaged my parents like if Joan was ok and doing well, and they said she passed a while ago during my study abroad year so... it wasn't possible for her to message me. I got so scared when I found out and unfriended the account.
I love Toni Collette, I was first introduced to her in Muriel’s Wedding. It was her first movie, her character was cringe AF, but I loved her quirkiness. She was also obsessed with Abba in the movie, so lots of Abba in the soundtrack. I would recommend. Also to desecrate means to have violence agains a sacred place. Usually it’s used to talk about graves that have been dug up or graffitied on.
loveeeee that u guys remember the naked brothers band too!! Not too many people talk about ittt!! It’s like only a select amount of people actually remember😭😭it’s such a deeep childhood memory
BTW she was sawing off her own head with piano wire, not string. You can see the piano overturned with wires exposed when Peter's wandering around in the dark before Annie jumps out.
One of my favourit suspense horror movies. I love the fact that it let's your imagination run wild before showing what actually happened. It doesn't treat the viewer as if we are dumb and need everything explained.
Another great reaction, you guys! The director, Ari Aster, did a third A24 movie called “Beau Is Afraid” and it plays with your mind so much more than Midsommar and Hereditary combined.
And the reason why Charlie acts like she does in the movie is because its not really her. It was Paimon that whole time. He's shown to be confused and disconnected from reality. Her comment to her mother about her grandmother wanting her to be a boy is kind of the first clue that something wasn't right and why she acted kind of weird. Charlie was basically fucked from the moment she was born because her mother made the mistake of allowing her mother to see her. Anne and her mother's relationship was strained. That's why Peter was never possessed until at the end. Once Charlie died, Peter was doomed as well. The reason his uncle killed himself was because what his mother tried to do to him by trying to get Paimon to possess him. Its such a weird and messed up family with a shit ton of baggage. Even without the supernatural part of it, it still could had worked just as well with the idea of it being about mental illness and family drama.
Paimon was originally meant to posses Annie's dad or brother, but both men killed themselves before he could do so. Presumably, they both realised what Annie's mom was trying to do, but were written off as mentally ill. The cult were stuck with what to do, so Annie's mom bullied her into having children. Annie on some level knows any children she has will be doomed (hence why she tried to have a miscarriage and tried to kill them when sleepwalking) and so kept Peter away but caved to letting Charlie know her grandma. As a result, Charlie was possesed as a baby by Paimon. TL;DR Charlie is Paimon. But Paimon doesn't want to be a girl. So the witches created this convolted plan to put Paimon in Peter, which succeeds at the end. The tragedy with Annie is: 1. She genuinely loves her kids, but wasn't raised in a loving home and struggles to be a good parent. Her violent behaviour (trying to kill her kids) was her trying to 'save them' quite sincerely. 2. She said at the start that she 'is blamed'. And she is. But really she was just like a doll in a doll house controlled by higher forces. Also At the dinner scene, Annie sees Peter sneering all the time because it’s Paimon. Just like when Peter has a regular face in class but his reflection is snarky/sneering. Toni Colette performance is phenomenal.
Guys if you didn't notice when Anni went out to the store , a partner going to the store in that scene and that partner is Dani & Cristian from Midsommar .
Desecration of a burial site can be anything from vandalism to body snatching, basic meaning is disrespecting a place deemed holy/spiritually special like a graveyard, church, religious relic etc.
to desecrate a grave is basically to dig up a grave, that’s her mother’s body. remember the husband on the phone had said that the grave was desecrated.
I’m the movie guy of my family, so when we have our annual theater trip to see a movie, I suggested this when it came out. Needless to say, I wasn’t allowed to pick a movie for a couple years because this f’ed them up too much lol. Good times
ugh. poor Peter. nobody ever understands how shock can literally take away your agency or ability to even think clearly, let alone function. if that happened to me, I don't even know if I could continue being a human being. the fact that his body just went on autopilot after the incident shows the mental state he was in. that entire family just needed therapy and they didn't get it, which is to me, part of the tragedy of the entire film. on a lighter note, Zuff and his Zuffisms made this reaction for me lmao 🤣
11:03 The thing that got me the most about this movie was this scene, and then the maggots. I have such a huge phobia of maggots/worms/bug infestation. I legit have to look away or I fr panic. This is why I’m being cremated 🤩✌🏼
Annie did not saw her head off with a piece of string -- it was a piano wire. Earlier in the sequence before Peter goes downstairs there is a crashing sound, and when he goes downstairs as he is walking past the front door you can see on the ride side of the shot that the piano has been tipped over. The sound you hear while Peter is in the upstairs hallway is Annie tipping over the piano and ripping out one of the strings which is what she then later uses in the attic scene.
This movie is more than scary, it’s gutwrenching and disturbing and just crawls right under your skin and you can never forget it. It’s rare that I am scared by movies even though horror is my absolute favorite genre. But this one scared the fuck out of me. I love that even with the supernatural elements that are going on, the struggles are so very grounded and human in so many ways. It reminds me of Stephen King, to be honest.
YES MY FAVE!! For some reason I thought you guys already had seen this! I realized it was midsommar hahaha. What a pleasant surprise to see this notification haha
