Great explanation and interpretation on both heroes, both were once my main damage dealers. For mobile version k'arkh is very often countered by andvari, and keira is still the most popular damage dealer in mobile version. However, I feel like k'arkh is alot better against a twins plus jorgen team, as keira super charges opponent's energy only leading to faster death, if keira fails to kill twins before they start ulti. I'm surprised to know fox destroyed both of them, would like to learn more about the mechanics, hopefully u will include in your future vids. Anyways good work as always ^^
Oh, Dante is just sorry one of his stray hands set fire to Heidi... we are all apprehensive, should we comfort Dante... or quench the flames of Heidi... I'm gonna sit down and think about it while I chuckle.
dante has been crying for years still being the forgotten hero he questions how the hero war gods knowades him when he got a skin how can it happen like it did with dare devil
50 to 100, (depending on your VIP level) K´arkh soul stones can be also collected free on daily bonus lesser hero soul stone box, every 28th of the month. Well, if you chose to pick Bob of course...
I think Kiera makes sense for newer players, as she is easy to get, and works well enough with almost any team. You can foccus on her early game, giving you great punch for areana, tower, campaign, outlands, and war. Hopefully once she is leveled all the way up, you have access to enough of the other options via events that happened in the meantime to build whatever team. If you have access to everyone, then it is really what style you preffer, even if it is just you think one of their skins look better, because they are on relatively even footing.
Great video. Bob is my damage dealer on my main account and ODH is my B team. Started a second account using Kiera as main damage dealer and Satori as B team. Having fun exploring the other heros. Thanks for the video.
9:00 I take it this list was made before Corvus and Morgana where added to the game seeing as Corvus goes great with Keira, really opens her abilities up a lot earlier then normal. On a new server I used a team of level 54 Corvus, Azaroth, Keira, Celest, and Martha to beat level 70 campaign stuff without letting a single hero die... yes I know that running 2 tanks and effectively 2 healers since I leave Celest in light mode to do that level 70 fights isn't good for end game stuff, but Corvus is too squishy by himself to tank things 16 levels above him but he enables Keira to do massive damage way earlier then she should.
@@jahrn6 If the enemy team has Jorgen, then the enemy Jorgen will outspeed your team and it will still lead to the team's demise, so that's a problem to be aware of.
Having watched your videos, I have to say that neither is better than the other. Every hero in the game offers something. While some are more powerful, I would have to say that its the team that truly makes the difference. A single hero cannot make nor break a team, though that little witch who keeps putting everyone to sleep may change my mind on that one. Every tool has its own role, and it is up to the player to figure out their own build to victory. That being said, I am sticking with Keira in my main team.
Thanks Charlie. Another great video with amazing information. The deciding factors for me was building the K’arkh team was easier and K’arkh’s defensive skills. Good to know that they are very similar in terms of damage. However now that I’ve been using K’arkh with Faceless I think he does much more damage because he smashes the opponents that Faceless lifts as well.
I can't decide who to chose, so I put both in my team :D Asaroth, K'arkh, Keira, Faceless, Martha and it is pretty good too. Keira hits few times all enemy, then K'arkh use his ult and kill enemy dmg dealers. So You don't even need Faceless. You can switch him for, Jorgen, Sebastian or Nebula.
i think that might have been a bit of a nerdy joke. been playing for a while now and there aren't that many Fox team out there, she is more a hero for a special use-case.
I think its worth stating that Ziri's ultimate will stop Kiera's ultimate from hitting the entire team as it will hit ZirI and bounce back away from the team. This is really only something you can do in a controlled (non-auto) fight to keep Kiera's damage more managed.
Keira ALLLLL DAY!! Just kidding, it comes down to whether u have a fast hitting team versus a synergy team. I use them both in grand arena and both are extremely effective.
i started at the end of this past halloween event ive been wasting resources left and right on all the heroes i encounter i decided to level 15 heroes at once for grand arena. team one : Faceless - Kai - Celeste - Khark - Astaroth team two: Martha - Orion - Cornelius - Jorgen - Ziri Team three:Thea(to be replaces once i make Jet stronger) - Fox - Nebula - Keira - Galahad
Karkh was my first 6* back in February, only started playing in November though the Christmas events gave me lots of scrolls, Nebula is next for the six stars though the Martha event helped me get her to 6* most recently.
So happy for this vid, thank you. It's clearly an open discussion but touches on many of the worries I'm having right now (as I started building Keira from the begging). The discussions in the comments are very enlightening, so also thanks for the community you built!
I've played both of these heroes to very high levels, but I've never once exclaimed "omg Keira is a murderer!" whereas K'arkh gets that line from me on the daily because I still cannot believe how fast he erases lives sometimes.
I think tbh I like Keira more because of you can get her next to Dorian then each time Keira auto attacks her blue ability and Dorian’s purple ability make her a monster, also Keira imo just has a really cool aesthetic in my opinion and I used to use her in my alt
You posted almost the same team just changing tank for Galahad on Keira + Jet team. One very strong is: Astaroth / Keira / Nebula / Lars / Martha Both of KARKH and Keira teams seem to need Nebula. The strongest Bob team is replacing Nebula for Jorgen.
Karkh does kill Keira problem is Karkh takes time to do real damage and in auto there's also a ring involved with faceless copying the wrong skill. Keira team usually wins by killing Karkh back line and this damage happens right away with each auto attack. I see people with weak faceless or nebula and they just dies to Keira before Karkh can even ult for the first time. If you don't have weak nebula or faceless and they stayed alive until your Karkh ult and since faceless is also getting hit often it will follow up another Karkh ult this usually kill Keira instantly and then that's it gg. It takes more investment into Karkh team to withstand Keira which allows weaker backline because Karkh team deals almost no damage until Karkh can ult and unless Karkh can ult there's no significant aoe to kill Keira backline. So most people will max out Keira first as their backline by default will live longer than Karkh backline even if they are weaker. For Karkh to counter Keira you can't afford to have weak backline. This is also the most common reason why people with Karkh team thinking they can cheap out on Faceless or Nebula as they don't really deal damage to get blown up by Karkh. Also even if your Karkh gets to ult there's also a rng factor as it hits 3 lowest life enemies which 1 will always be the tank which does very little and if 2nd lands on Martha she can take the hit just fine and if your knockup rng didn't hit Keira you are dead whereas Keira always hit all 5 of your guys regardless and with Martha ult up she attacks all your guys faster than once per second. Get it? Invest on your backline or use Kai or other stun hero to slow her down. Keira team can get away half ass backline vs Karkh but Karkh can't have half ass backline vs Keira.
@@railshot888 Rlly great answer so just asking a little question u said it's much about kahrks backline and the double throw in the air doesn't andvari negates this whole thing on Mobile?
I have Keira and have levelled her carefully. This tells me that K'arkh isn't much of an upgrade, if it is at all and that the hero who appears most on the screen above, Nebula, should be my priority.
karkh only got 2 skins for now, keira is already one skin ahead... the on paper part u mention is just 1 skin away from being equal... so what matters is which hero u prefer :-)
I've been playing with Astaroth, Keira Jet Seb. and Martha in tower and Dungeon and it is VERY strong even with Jet at 3 stars and Seb at 5 stars. The other three are ultimate starred. I also have a strong Kark'k as well and with Faceless and Kai I find him very good too.
As someone with a 75K Keira, I feel I am objectively qualified to say that....Karkh is better. And it's not close. I personally think that Karkh's ultimate is mildly OP. He knocks up THREE heroes with the least health and stuns them. This will always include the best damage dealer from the other side AND at least one of the key supports. When they're stunned, they can't do ANYTHING. Most DPS comes to a grinding halt. The consequences are even worse if one or more ultimates were interrupted. In contrast, Keira's silence only stops the opponent from activating abilities. They're still attacking and dealing damage. All the while, Keira's ricochet is giving the other team energy and enabling them to ultimate the moment that silence is up. In fact, she's doing that the whole time, so it''s effectively a handicap in favor of the opposing team. Keira's a great hero and I use her to great effect. That said, I get absolutely destroyed by Karkh teams that only invest up to 55K in their Karkh (Asta/QM/Keira/Celeste/Martha - 60K Asta with max armor skin and 75K Keira). I'm sure the dynamic changes once everyone is level 130, but below level 130 you need to invest a LOT more into Keira before she is as effective as Karkh.
Keira teams will normally still lose to Kharkh at max level. (1) Kharkh gets charged up by Kiera ricochet and procs first, then (2) Kharkh 2nd skill will heal it back to full health by Kiera ricochet again -.-"... although it's easier to counter Kharkh with other heroes (esp Andavari...)
Everyone has a counter. A 75k Keira isn't even noteworthy in my server... a lars/krista combo works great on karkh/faceless teams. I can beat most karkh teams with them, or I can use Andy/Keira/Dorian/Peppy/Helios. If you're keira is up around 93k try her out in the tank position with dorian feeding her vampirism. She'll build energy and restore health incredibly quickly. The same can be done with karkh
Karkh can be gotten at the end of the week by participating in the Tournament of the Elements. Not hard to gain them and the end result is your Titans get better in the process. That is definitely a benefit in my book.
Fox blinds the frontlines, and for a decently long time at that. She can really cause troubles for both Keira and K'arkh, though that's situational. Keira and K'arkh can still destroy Fox if they time their attacks correctly, especially K'arkh due to tendrils targeting the lowest HP opponents, and Fox has the lowest HP pool in the game.
hey Charlie who would you swap in to counter the same kahrk team you are using when you use youre own kahrk team? and is it worth it building fox to counter keira and kahrk? thx for youre help ;)
In 3rd team Dorian stands in the back so I don't think that Keira gets the vampirisim aura. Recently I've tried Astaroth QM Keira Celeste Nebula and I got to say it's a strong team. Appareantly, when Nebula's in the back she buffs the 4th and the 3rd hero so Keira still gets her benefits. I would like to hear your thoughts on this team? Is this team better than Astaroth QM Keira Nebula Dorian?
Can u see a team with both damage dealers like a asaroth Keira Bob nebula Martha team or any version with both heros. Just curious It seems like double the fire power.
What about having both of them in the same offensive team? For exemple with astaroth martha and dorian for exemple? My karkh is very low so wondering if he could be the 5th hero in my team
Good video, the silver trophies are a paint to get.. because you need silver guild, and even then, the problem is that if another , more powerful guild comes to the server, they can shift guilds arround very easily. --
update kark is now easy to take down thanks to the new hero lol unless you got helios to save the day pretty funny seeing yasmine getting lazer to death
Great video bro. Loved it, since I've got not many khark on my server so don't face him much but these days the one that's giving my kiera team trouble are trio of Maya nebula n jorgan.
@@shine9001 yes try it. It's not best team but with nebula buff Maya is really a pain n with jorgan energy damping it's a pain. Now In guild war we don't face maxout team n since Maya jorgan easy to get 6 star this team has come up as defence team in guild war, Which is hard to beat. That pure dmg from Maya is crazy. For full team it goes as astaroth/galahad Maya nebula jorgan Martha with oliver
Hey Charlie! Love the videos, they are very helpful! I wonder if you would be able to do an update to this video for mobile now that Sebastian is easier to get? I like them both but since you get Keira a little easier (until you get in a silver league) I have more resources invested in her.
How can you purchase K'arkh in the guild war shop oO? I'm also playing on facebook, but I only can get his souls stones in the elemental tournament shop, why is that ? I'm playing in gold league, so I got quite enough silver coins.
Keira is, beyond any doubt, my favourite hero in the game but, to your point Charlie, because her "META" teams are sooo hard to get I have a "Bob team". P.S. Amazing video, loved every second of it, thank you!!!
I was looking at the teams you showed at 9.08 and the very bottom Keira team, I have every hero except Nebula and I'm not at the point where I can get Nebula or K'arkh. What do you think about using Markus instead of Nebula?
My team is similar to the right side 3rd row, but i don't have Cleaver yet and my Celeste is weak (only 3 star) so i need to replace them with similar heroes. Dorian (artifact gives physical attack), Keira(her winter skin is awesome), Qing Mao(add addinational armor penetration). I need to invest in Nebula 8 out of 10 teams have her :O
His Armor Penetration is too low, and he's too much in the front lines for his own good. Dies far too easily to mages and doesn't hurt tanks all that much, in other words, a complete liability and deadweight in PvP.
undead team? looks like on our server its dominant team. tower run i think keira wins the trophy when maxed her out, too cause she dont need any support for throw in air. but her ricichet ist realy crazy and can bring you in trouble cause the enemy team will have more energy
What do you think about using both Keira and K’hark at the same moment in a team? Would that be a good idea? I’m saying it because I like to attack and destroy my opponents quickly
I'm interested to know this as well if they are effective in the same team, my Bob is still a work in progress atm - but which other hero's could these 2 work well with please?
something like : Astaroth, K'arkh, Kiera, Nebula with Orion of Faceless?...any good?...my Bob is too little to really try this setup yet...any synergy with those hero's together or is it too unbalanced?
The recent titan event on mobile was a bust in my opinion. Probably unlucky, but very few of my jars opened to other jars so as a free to play player I failed to get titan stones to evolve any of my earth titans. Very disappointing. Just wanted to vent. If the event had had even a few more opportunities to get caskets...it would have been more fun.
Don't You Like the Dan Buccini's team with Martha Lars Nabula Keira Astaroth? Right now i have Martha jorgen Nebula Keira Astaroth. Do You Think that if i change Jorgen with Fox i will have more success?
