Heroku Is Dead, Here's What I Recommend 

I'm not really involved in any of this and didn't know what Heroku was before, but out of curiosity I went to the website and all I got out of it is that they host a bunch of weird apps, that no one uses and I didn't see anything about other types of services on there. Pretty sure they are just trying to make more money and focusing on the handful of small successes they have, rather then all the random everything else, free users do with them that's basically farts in the wind. I don't know what I'm talking about though, this is just makes sense to me. Also some free users have tons of apps and they're basically charging per "slug", which basically translates to per charging per app. So it's to get people that do that to either pay through the nose, reduce their usage, or move on.

@@dickrichard626 Heroku free tier used by millions, many new developers who started to learn hosted their hobby site there. I would say Heroku was lucky if 1 out of 1000 would upgrade to paid tier. It was definitely a money sink.

5 a 7u tu

and school/college project

This shill is not authentic

Yep, planetscale is a great option lol

@@mikeonthebox they have? damnit!

You can still install Dokku yourself

Not for backend

Same hahaha web dev and Theo are amazing check his previous videos and join twitch if you can when its live

sure if you have all day to watch youtube but 12 minute video for really a 3 minute content is very lowly

Web Dev Simplified is just a hack who copycats the greats 3-4 weeks late. Also his tik-toky style cringes the juice out of me.

10 seconds into the first video and already agree!

Exactly

yup, it still works for me

Firebase gets a lot more of undeserved hate.

😄😄😄👌 Men you're on point

Why? I don’t currently use Firebase, but I’ve played with it before and found it quite nice. Legit just wondering why you believe that Firebase isn’t good? Thanks

@@silvio2402 I'm not too, I'm in supabase, but I've already listened Theo saying about the price for the service is too expensive.

@@rogerlima8961 Oh, got it. But I think the free tier is already pretty powerful. I thought this was more going in the direction of mere hate towards Google.

You, from the past, sounds like me, from the present. Right now I'm doing exactly that. I am trying to deploy my expressjs server and nextjs client files all into vercel. I don't know why that's naive. Can you help me?

​@@curiously-cinnamonI'm in same position as you, i tried hosting server side on vercel , my main objective was to host a websocket but turn out vercel doesn't provide service to host node socket io express server I switched to another free service which allows websocket hosting using node , but only problem is after few hours they turn off the server to save their cost (for free users I think).

Fly has a region in Sydney, maybe a good alternative

Does it support cookie storage tho?

@@radagon6919 cookie storage is part of the browser and has nothing to do with the server.

for sql i am using planetscale

Make sure you configure cache, otherwise your server can freeze randomly like mine did

coolify is also really cool alternative to caprover

Is this per month ? I'm looking for a free tier Linux server

@@thvozdovic how do you do that?

In kimsufi you get a dedicated machine for 5 bucks.

They just sound scary, okay?! 😂

I was really scared and didn't really *get* backend until I learned about express, and later on next.js. Then also understood it in other languages

i afraid not databases but bad databases design ;D It's brings so much pain

I tried this, it works okay if you set it to always keep a "warm" instance to avoid cold starts. If you always have to deal with cold starts, however, it takes way to long to spin up your container. It's a viable solution, if you have about 200k requests per mount with a minimum number of instances set to 1, you will be spending about 20 USD per month. Since the point of this video is finding free solutions, I assume spending 20 USD/month is not the goal, so I don't think it would fit as a viable alternative.

@@aleksandermirowsky7988 I don't think cold start is that big of an issue as you make it to be. As far your container is not oversized, the cold starts are pretty quick. I am using Cloud run currently for my Nextjs app. Rest you are right about. It is not free so you will have pay for container resources.

@@sanesanyo I was under the impression that container size did not affect startup times. Quoting Cloud Run docs: "Because of Cloud Run's container image streaming technology, the size of your container image does not affect cold start or request processing time. The container image size also does not count towards the available memory of your container." Admittedly, I haven't attempted this in a while (more than one year) and both NextJS and Cloud Run have received updates/upgrades since, so I guess it could have improved. I will test it out again, thanks for the tip!

@@aleksandermirowsky7988 Well you could be right but that has been my experience with cloud run. Smaller images start faster. Once they start, the response times are rather similar. But in one case I just deployed an API using fastapi serving a ml model so the comparison is not fair. Nonetheless I don't think cold start is that big an issue at the start. Once you reach scale, cold start wont be a problem. Let me know how it goes for you :).

I dont get the trail period thing

I've used it for database hosting and it was painfully slow to query. I find supabase much better

@@Hunt92 you get 500 free hours or $5 worth of compute

@@micaelvieira6724 I haven't used it for larger applications -- but saying that your query speeds might not be because of Railway, but rather because of your the code your using to communicate with it. If you have a working example I can test to see how slow this is send me a link.

@@max-c14 how much is the cost to have a full month? (500h cover only ~20 days)

Yes

OMG...I'm pretty sure I've heard of Cloud9 sometime during my very early projects. And I'm almost sure it was related to a Rails app.

That’s what I’ve used for years too

As a 2 year free tier oracle customer I'm shocked this isn't a hugely up voted comment. I run multiple personal sites on one free tier compute instance. As an aws engineer daytoday who could deploy there easily if I wanted.

probably aws/gcp/azure and the like

Render, cyclic, railway.

yes

@@SandraWantsCoke Which one?