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HF APRS & HF Winlink on ANDROID Devices 

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HF APRS & HF Winlink comes to Android devices with a new Robust Packet TNC called the Teensy RBR TNC.
The Teensy is Robust Packet TNC, enabling HF APRS and HF Winlink on Android (and soon iOS) devices. If you were a fan of the Mobilinkd KISS TNC running on aprsdroid, the Teensy should be very interesting for you.
This first video is basically just an announcement about the Teensy RBR TNC. Once the kit is released and I have the final version in my hands, we'll follow-up with a second video, showing the Teensy capabilities at home, and in the field.
For more context or instructions on getting your own Teensy RPR TNC, please read the episode notes at: oh8stn.org/blog/2023/09/28/hf...
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Комментарии : 74   
@rachmielbenberel
@rachmielbenberel 10 месяцев назад
It opens up a number of previously limited communication options for the operator. It also has the ability to improve the reliability of EMCOMM under challenging conditions--a very important advantage!
@SeamasterSig
@SeamasterSig 10 месяцев назад
I had just installed the WOAD app on my smartphone a couple of days ago when I realized that, in my eagerness to streamline sending/receiving Winlink email using my Android phone, I had completely overlooked the fact that there is no convenient way to interface it with a radio. The ham radio gods must have sensed my frustration because this video is very timely! Thanks for bringing the Teensy TNC to our attention Julian!
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
You are very welcome 👍 73 Julian oh8stn
@m.p.6330
@m.p.6330 10 месяцев назад
Winlink and APRS on the 705, yes please. Thanks for bringing us this video and looking forward to the next video.
@virilis
@virilis 9 месяцев назад
Thanks Julian for digging and presenting new solutions to emcomms. I'm looking forward to this new kit. Please keep us posted about availability, 73
@garylawrence1575
@garylawrence1575 9 месяцев назад
This is exactly what I've been looking for! My nine-year-old son and I have been doing a lot more off-grid hiking and looking for a way to keep in touch with the wife. You've been great and very informative and are inspiring me to get my general!
@Swamp-Fox
@Swamp-Fox 10 месяцев назад
Looks like the Teensy RBR TNC is going to be a game changer. I actually like a hardware solution for this application. I am definitely interested in HF APRS. Looking forward to see where this goes.
@adubs.
@adubs. 10 месяцев назад
APRS and JS8Call are the 2 modes that might just get me to suck it up and take the test. Cool video.
@KN4RAY
@KN4RAY 10 месяцев назад
I love the content and your points of view. I’m building my portable options and have learned a ton. Thank you for creating great content.
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
You are very welcome 🙏
@dougbas3980
@dougbas3980 9 месяцев назад
This is just what I need. It is an action item for me. I hope this catches fire. Thank you for letting us know about this.
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching. If you would like more insight on this topic, read my blog post at oh8stn.org/blog/2023/09/28/hf-aprs-hf-winlink-on-android-deviceas/ 73 julian oh8stn
@Siskiyous6
@Siskiyous6 10 месяцев назад
I love this, I have been interested i HF APRS for some time.
@Auharry
@Auharry 10 месяцев назад
Julian many thanks for the video Great content as always 73 from the netherlands
@PopeBrak
@PopeBrak 10 месяцев назад
Great video, sir! Love your work!
@ifpo238
@ifpo238 9 месяцев назад
Well done, sir. Thanks for the video!
@stithjim
@stithjim 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this! I was quite disappointed that I could not use WoAD on my smartphone directly with my trUSDx like I could for FT8. Winlink is sadly missing from my ultraportable HF station and this might be the solution! Edit: Also, thank you for making me aware of this hardware and I cannot wait for the kit to become available!
@jeffallen6459
@jeffallen6459 9 месяцев назад
Are you able to run Andflmsg with your trUSDx?
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 9 месяцев назад
@jeffallen6459 I haven't tried but there's no reason it shouldn't work. Just like FT8, It's just audio.
@SavageAirguns
@SavageAirguns 10 месяцев назад
Over my head but I am glad you got it working on android with this program. Very cool.
@mikebanta8788
@mikebanta8788 10 месяцев назад
That was a great video! I learned a lot!
@owlcricker-k7ulm
@owlcricker-k7ulm 10 месяцев назад
This looks like a brilliant piece of kit! Thanks
@MairinGoBragh
@MairinGoBragh 8 месяцев назад
I have a Mobilinkd TNC2.1 and TNC3! Really want to get my hands on a TNC4.
@MairinGoBragh
@MairinGoBragh 8 месяцев назад
Can I make a suggestion? Get you a tripod. It would be a relatively inexpensive way to improve your production quality. Love to see ham radio content out there!
@MairinGoBragh
@MairinGoBragh 8 месяцев назад
Ooooooh I just came up with a Pi concept in my head for ultra-portable ops.
@jimbefit3073
@jimbefit3073 6 месяцев назад
Interesting for a newbie!
@dangermandave67
@dangermandave67 6 месяцев назад
It just occurred to me that some of the Chinese vendors of the (tr)uSDX transceivers as kits and built units might have the capability to turn out a version of the Teensy TNC under license.
@Idahoanghost
@Idahoanghost 10 месяцев назад
Great information and love the project. Thanks for sharing!
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
You are very welcome. 73 Julian oh8stn
@waltwolf1232
@waltwolf1232 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 9 месяцев назад
Thank you 🙏 73 Julian oh8stn
@J1mbo888
@J1mbo888 10 месяцев назад
Very informative as always Julian. Thanks. Rock and Roll. 🙂
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
Thank you 73 Julian oh8stn
@aaronakiyama
@aaronakiyama 9 месяцев назад
I want one! I've had WoAD since shortly after it was released but there are very few VHF or UHF gateways near me so I didn't use it a lot. I've been waiting for an HF solution!
@thuff3207
@thuff3207 10 месяцев назад
This is interesting and I need to investigate a software modem that is the rewritten UZ7HO Soundmodem for Linux in C. I am not sure yet what robust packet but I will see if this soft modem will work for HF. The problem with HF is the very low packet speed that needs addressed. VARA HF does run faster so maybe a gateway to get to APRS with a better modulation. I plan to stay with Raspberry Pi’s for now. I do like the packaging and I hope it as a battery but time will tell.
@douglasvamateurradioandmore
@douglasvamateurradioandmore 8 месяцев назад
I have been looking at the digirig due to its small size and it's about 100 shipped with all the cables i need to connect to the radio and computer.
@johnk3go
@johnk3go 10 месяцев назад
yes would be great for a turnkey box -
@keithfrost1268
@keithfrost1268 10 месяцев назад
I would like to see some of these tools on Fdroid.
@timferguson2682
@timferguson2682 10 месяцев назад
Keep on trucking.
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
👍
@dangermandave67
@dangermandave67 10 месяцев назад
Awesome. I've experimented with Robust Packet on 30m in the field and got packets gated through a i-gate digipeater in the Seattle region from a mountaintop in Utah. So I know this stuff works. I'm concerned about whether there are enough Robust Packet i-gates in the US. It might improve the usefulness of the device if it would support other packet protocols like AX.25 for legacy network compatibility. It seems like Vara is becoming the gold standard, so I wonder where Robust Packet sits. Both are proprietary.
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
Thanks David. Valid points. With no plans for Linux, iOS or android, Vara will always require a windows machine. It's ok for a windows laptop or a tablet, but not a great option for mobile devices. The lack of i-gates is a problem, as is the lack of RPR Winlink gateways. This is easily remedied by the software version (Winrpr) of RPR which runs on desktop. I have to make a series of videos to get people interested in setting up gateways and i-gates. It's definitely a process. As for the propitory software, I completely agree with you. If nothing else, this will become a proof of concept for something open-source later down-the-line.
@dangermandave67
@dangermandave67 10 месяцев назад
@@OH8STN Yes, I suppose that, rather than griping about the lack of RPR Winlink gateways and APRS RPR i-gates, I could just set one up at home and use it when I'm in the field doing my SOTA activations in the mountains of Utah and neighboring states. Shouldn't need much of a station for that. Probably would be best with a NVIS antenna.
@hawkeyeCH53E
@hawkeyeCH53E 7 месяцев назад
Julian, curious if the Teansy works in KISS mode? I build the Mobilinkd DYI kit for the TNC3 when the Bluetooth version was unobtainable. I have been experiment with WOAD but only utilizing Telnet capabilities. Thanks for motivating me to get back into its utilization. I now have the TNC4 and have a craiger KM6LYW digipi setup. I'm curious how this device compares to them all. I like the internal GPS device. Not sure why it can only be used in tracker mode though. Looking forward for future content. Semper Fi
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 7 месяцев назад
Hello brother. It works in kiss mode. It doesn't only work in tracker. It can be a standalone Tracker, or TNC. Semper Fi
@douglasvamateurradioandmore
@douglasvamateurradioandmore 10 месяцев назад
Looks great. Because I haven't developed my kit building and soldering skills, I'm leary of kits. Is there a way to purchase these kits?
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
Check the description
@jhlewis10
@jhlewis10 5 месяцев назад
Web page says BT version is out in Jan 2024. Does not show where to buy one though.
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 5 месяцев назад
There's been some tragedy in this project so it might be a no-go. I'll try to do an update video when I know more
@jhlewis10
@jhlewis10 5 месяцев назад
@@OH8STN Oof that's too bad. This is needed, as well as JS8 on Android.
@wolfholler9939
@wolfholler9939 10 месяцев назад
I'm running behind more information and/or source to get a kit or a assembled TeensyTNC but I was not successful until now. I own a original SCS-Tracker but would like to have a HF-TNC with Bluetooth and inbuild GPS - you know: the cable mess ;-) My PTC-IIex is a RPR-modem also and it is nice to find HF-APRS GWs on 30m but not with Android-SW. So hopefully the TeensyTNC will be available soon. 73 Wolf
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
I know the team is very close but it seems like unobtanium until the kit is released. About half a year ago I wanted to produce a turnkey version of the Teensy to avoid exactly this problem. I'll try to get a delivery update. 73 Julian oh8stn
@4X4-RADIO
@4X4-RADIO 7 месяцев назад
Also simple... Windows Tablet + PinPoint(S/W) + VARA HF Modem(S/W) + Small Radio(817/Venus4020 etc,) = HF APRS Just so many Developments/Solutions for the same Use Case...!!! The ideal solution, An All In One device that looks like a X6100, with GPS with it's screen and a built in HF-APRS App for Position/Messaging Connect Power + Antenna and away you go. Voice/CW and HF-APRS
@thed8229
@thed8229 10 месяцев назад
Did I miss how the APRS packets are being I-gated on HF?
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
Same as VHF. HF APRS stations listen and gate RF & APRS-IS. This allows gating between h f and v h f and vice versa.
@dougdaniels
@dougdaniels 10 месяцев назад
Are you using mostly/exclusively 30m for HF APRS?
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
Mostly, but others are using 20 & 80 as well.
@jameslee522
@jameslee522 10 месяцев назад
Where can you order the kit?
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
Check the description 👍
@JamesKC3OXN
@JamesKC3OXN 10 месяцев назад
Ahhh! No more hardware! Please! Better software is what we need. A VaraHF app perhaps? A CAT control feature through BT or WiFi into an IC-705 using an Android device? Imagining a 705, antenna, and my phone. That's what I want. Everything else is just more stuff to fiddle with and maintain, not to mention points of failure. I love the channel though, keep it up!
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
I completely agree with you but developers aren't listening. The Vara developer absolutely refuses to support Linux, Android or anything else but windows. It is expected that we setup windows mini computers to run vara remotely. This slso adds hardware, without adding Android or iOS support. This is what I meant by the chicken and the egg problem.
@JamesKC3OXN
@JamesKC3OXN 10 месяцев назад
@OH8STN I know what you mean. I'm currently running a Vara HF P2P station and just had a tablet failure. I've been on the hunt for a miniPC that won't break the bank and hold up to 24/7/365 use. It's too bad they still don't make the Windows Phone.
@blahbadyblah
@blahbadyblah 8 месяцев назад
​@@OH8STNI'm sure that eventually we'll have some sort of Windows emulation on android.
@samuelwhittemore7675
@samuelwhittemore7675 8 месяцев назад
For a SHTF event, tempered with what we've seen in Ukraine and electronic warfare, I'm not so sure I'd take any device that can ping a cell tower. Is that a worthy consideration?
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 8 месяцев назад
Totally agree! First thing we should be doing with any new mobile phone is to swap out the operating system for a secure one. This way, when we put it in airplane mode, it really is off air.
@dennisschultz1175
@dennisschultz1175 10 месяцев назад
Does this still work on vhf aprs?
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
That's a great question Dennis. I don't know the answer right now because I haven't. I'll try to answer it in the next video. For now here is the documentation. robust-packet.st/teensy-rpr-tnc.html
@dennisschultz1175
@dennisschultz1175 7 месяцев назад
Any updates? I still am looking for this kit too.
@DE-ke2rf
@DE-ke2rf 10 месяцев назад
Ok now do it with the IC-705 & I’m sold. Wish you had an IC-7200. Like to be able to use mine for that.
@OH8STN
@OH8STN 10 месяцев назад
As soon as I make the cable. Cable instructions are in the advanced ic-705 manual.
@DE-ke2rf
@DE-ke2rf 9 месяцев назад
@@OH8STN TY. A 705 is being delivered by Santa this year. I don’t mind rucking my 7200, reminds of my days as a RTO in my Army unit. But the 705 will be a game changer for portable data comms. Much easier to set up.
@DE-ke2rf
@DE-ke2rf 6 месяцев назад
Julian, any way you can pressure Apple & iPhone to support these modes? If not any ETA for its adaption?
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