Hidden Gems In This Neglected Bible Passage: Romans 16:1-16 

you are not alone.

I always pray at home with Mike 😊

I too bow my head, close my eyes and say "amen" right along with Pastor Mike, and all of you, my fellow Christians. We are a praying family and a nation wide if not world wide church body . ❤

@Kevin Belgrove no thanks

Agreed! What would good support look like? Maybe a church where the pastor(s) are more directly involved in an evangelistic ministry?

Kevin Belgrove I understand you brother. so which is it yahushua or yahuah that salvation is found? They are not the same? Elohim ?? My understanding (Jesus)is a translation from ORIGINAL. Hebrew to Greek to English. LORD is also just a translation. Cornerstone is probably a translation…….. Salvation (Sozo )probably a translation…….. The list goes on. When I say God I’m talking about the God of the Bible. When I say Lord or Jesus I’m referring to the God of the Bible. The creator of ALL Lots of names for YAHWHE Provider? Healer?

Kevin Belgrove most Christians know Jesus real name. TRUTH BE KNOWN it’s a translation. Easy to learn. Easy to understand. Scripture also reveals that GOD is 3 in one. Maybe three different names and parts, but still only ONE GOD. True many church goers don’t truly BELIEVE the FATHER SENT HIS SON for many, and that will be revealed and has already been written down.. And your spelling it wrong. It’s Yahweh YHWH ADONAI ELOHIM ……………..lol

Kevin Belgrove the only EXCEPTIONS is when a person is written in the lambs book of life but GOD will reveal his TRUE NAME???? Where is that in scripture? I mean I believe HIS TRUE NAME is revealed and that the one who is saved from the beginning of time is well aware. But I wouldn’t go around ADDING to the HOLY WRIT

And yes HE IS VERY MUCH GOD!! My GOD my LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST!! YHWH IN THE FLESH!!

Kevin Belgrove you seem to be a good “law”’ abiding citizen. And yes the scriptures (HOLY SPIRIT BREATHED) you present shows 2 of the 3 Deities of God. Of course The spirit (God) leads us to the SON (God) that leads us to the FATHER ( ultimately GOD) The truth the way and the life? No one comes to the father except through HIM. And if you SEE HIM YOU SEE THE FATHER. The WORD IN THE FLESH.

Amen

20:45 He believes it's necessary to give women permission to have an opinion. He's pathetic.

@@ircjesselee I think your misunderstanding, he said if your a woman asking yourself can you correct someone with theological error or do you need a husband with you if so the answer he believes is that yes a woman can and no a husband does not need to be with her to do it.

@@savannah138 St. Paul knows the righteous way for women to behave in these regards. "11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression". 1 Timothy 2:10-14 (KJV) AMEN!

Yes I pray he does more study into this topic as I have done. For I found that it was the Catholic church that watered down diakonos to mean just servant. Yet the first 3 centuries it was defined as "one who serves as a minister"...... And Junia there is multiple documents throughout the first 5 centuries confirming her both as a female and a Apostle like Papyrus 46.......

@ Knight of christ Please note that at least church history records / legends are there regarding the Twelve Apostles. But absolutely nothing of that sort is there regarding Andronicus or Junia . If they were really outstanding Apostles or at par with the Twelve , it would not have been so . Your argument lacks force at this point .

I agree. What was included would eventually have to be limited, just like in an acceptance speech, for example. What others did for the person speaking go well beyond the noted things. Just because they’re not expounded upon, doesn’t diminish what they do. There’s just a limit to how much detail records can include,. Also, it’s small thinking to assume that all the records kept of what was done are known, or that records per se were kept at all, or in as great a detail as the work done, which quite obviously they wouldn’t be, even today people’s records aren’t always fully known.

Great t teaching

Amen to that.

Amen

Junia was a female Apostle as there is multiple documents throughout the first 5 centuries confirming thus. Papyrus 46 being one of them.....

@@kennethcadwell2124 Papyrus 46 contains parts of Paul's epistles. So, we have those in the New Testament! 🤪🤪 Also, whether Junia was a woman or not (and it seems she was), she and Andronicus were known among the Apostles, or known *to* the Apostles. That means they were both highly regarded among the Apostles. It doesn't actually say that either of them *were* Apostles Why is it so important to you to be right in this, anyway?

@@alexhamilton624 Junia is indeed a woman. People should accept the Bible and not "add" to it.

Same in Europe... some places you do one cheek, both cheeks, or even 3 kisses going back and forth!

Same thing in Guatemala!

Same in Ethiopia!

@Patrick your HI's tradition is like that in the underground evangelical church back in the communist USSR 😉😉

Same in Chile! 🇨🇱

Lol. They gender-separated the early church pretty early because people were misbehaving during the holy kiss.

I thought it was using your tongue ;) lol!

A kiss only takes about 5 seconds. So the difference between a Holy kiss and an unholy kiss is more like someone coming up to you and the kiss being ( 5 ) [ seconds ] too long. . . 🤨

It is incorrectly translated as "kiss" and is supposed to be greeting XD.

Or a kiss on the cheek would fit today, (and it would be good to have that return, as few do that in greeting in the US, anyway), though throughout history people did give a peck on the lips. That’s not even a full second of lip contact, unless they’d not seen each other in a long time...

keep proclaiming this message...

Louder!!!!!🙌🏼

Actually, it can mean either or both, depending on how it's used! Example: Turn right at the church (building) on the corner. Our church (people) is cooking and delivering meals to anyone who calls and is in need of food. In the English language, most words have multiple meaning, not just one!

@@karenpierce6424 but the biblical meaning only refers to a group of people, not a building. Our culture has added the definition of "building the church meets at", but the original biblical meaning is only the people. It's very similar to calling your home "family". It's like saying "my family has family time at family", instead of saying "my family has family time at home".

Church means Ecclesia in the original [an assembly of called-out ones].

Bingo!

Hahaha 😁😄 Actually probably a tree-felling or carpentry analogy. Lol 😄😄👍

Don't be nitpicky please have patience

Good morning Tim. Thanks for the reply, but I don't believe I was being nitpicky. Was merely making a point. I have listened to and watched many of his videos and mike tends to do this. I don't know if he's just trying to fill in time or if he feels he needs to explain his brilliance. Either way, I apologize if I offended you. I'm curious though, what is your take on this video and the topic Mike was covering?

D MO, if you’re not being fed, go elsewhere to be fed: The food Pastor Mike serves is good and your take is interesting but of little use to anyone.

@Kevin Belgrove I'm not sure what your argument is. Spit it out

@Kevin Belgrove I'm not sure what your argument is . Are you just babbling?

Hazel Bowen Hey Hazel I hope that Mike responds! If I were in your situation my heart would cry out for the lost sheep! But I would be angry with the wolf that is deceiving the sheep. I believe that it is right to feel anger and a sense that 'This is wrong' but we certainly need to be in prayer and ask God to guide us. It's a big thing to deal with and it sounds like you. Need support from other believers who see the problem and be able to meet with someone in church leadership and address your concerns in the most loving way possible. But if you have already left the church....find believers locally to support and comfort you. I know the deep hurt that it can cause and no doubt there is plenty of pain that needs to be healed.

Stephen Thompson Hello Stephen, thank you for your very good advice and kind words, you obviously understand my situation. I have remained in fellowship with members of the church that I used to hang out with, we are continuing with our home bible study and discussion, I have no issue with any of the church members, I am troubled by what I see ..... in them being taught false doctrines, an extremely liberal, charismatic new leadership and corruption that has crept in through the back door, I know it sounds dramatic but some of the home group practices are bordering on occultism and new age mystic nonsense, I don't want to be confrontational, it's not in my nature but I'm still angry at what I see happening, others have noticed too but don't seem to want to confront these issues so I decided it's best if I leave quietly without a fuss and look for a new church family, I will be doing my research first though... That's for sure, don't want to get into church hopping! Thanks again for your support and best wishes from grey, rainy England!

RUN AWAY,,. Churches will always have some things wrong,, but ultimately remember the scripture does not say avoid those who cause division, but avoid those who cause division, contrary to the doctrine you have received. IE, get away from those divisive people preaching false doctrine, the shack would surfice. I remember as a young believer reading in foxes book, a story ( not sure if its true) of the Apostle John finding himself in a meeting where they were preaching a heresy. He got up tore his clothes and shouted " O please Lord don't destroy me with these people" and ran with all his might away. I think sometimes God himself will ask you to strip away all the religion, all the theology, all the church activities, and simply approach a situation as a man with only a conscience, .. The whole shebang is that we believe unto righteousness, its not a strange spiritual awakening, but a solid belief unto righteousness, get away, get far away, and don't look back..

Grant Holland Grant thank you for your reply and words of support, it's great to receive these responses to my post because it encourages me through a situation where I had some doubt regarding my decision. I'm feeling more confident as each day passes that it most definitely was the right way to go but I guess I'm feeling most disturbed in the knowledge that these lovely people are being sucked in by this garbage, it's tragic! I sent the guy who's been handing out "the shack" an email last night with an attached RU-vid critique of this book/film and explained that I'm very concerned he is promoting this heretical nonsense, I've been diplomatic and humble in my approach and said I am praying for him that he may see what he's doing is wrong and he needs to stop. I've also spoken to one of the deacons at the church who is going to "have a word"..... We shall see but I'm still seeking a new church, that doesn't mean I don't care for those that I've left behind, thanks again, God Bless.

Don't worry, everyone goes through this, its just a test of your faith. Mostly if you are a more mature believer it would be important for those young believers looking to you, not to defile their conscience. They need a solid foundation, and giving new converts such a controversial book is like giving a new born a shot of rum to see the effect. The doctrinal foundations, just about every single one from Hebrews 6, is challenged in that book. Also if the pastor is engaging in such sketchy activity, he can be rebuked by the elders, and come under discipline for a season, but if he continues like a celeb pastor for the sake of conscience you cant remain.. Keep well, unity can only come inside the actual person of Jesus,

what did they call each other then? all the churches i've been to in the northeast use those terms.

I've never been to a church who calls one another brother or sister. We've always just used people's names

@@bufficliff8978 Pretty common in Southern and Black churches

I am in New England and I’m from a church that we call each other “brother” and “sister”. Churches are small and hard to find tbh. Took me a while too to find somewhere

@@firedrakeillusional9862 I can confirm this.

Jackie Peddie i agree brother. I was recently at a church in uganda where the only thing the pastor talked about was how God was going to rain riches on the people. He then would ask people to give "seeds" and from what I understood the bigger the "seed" the bigger the wealth. He was also very much into faith healing and prophesy and would ask people for "help" in exchange for prophecy. A friend of mine gpt drawn into his deception for almost a year before he realized that the man was using his gift to extort money. We all must be very careful of these men. God bless

this has to be a worldwide issue....I am involved in the Latin American world, and it is the same, all over....this world....

@@timg5603 that's the false "prosperity gospel" which only serves to enrich the "false Pastor" and the leadership of the church.

Yeah, that "seed faith". thing is BOGUS 😂

meggy8868, I pray that you would pray for more clarity about your wonderful call to God's ministry. God indeed raises up women to proclaim His word in this day to believers and unbelievers. This is the Promise of the Father. .... You mentioned you never functioned "that way" in a church.... I believe you're allowing cultural considerations to have preeminence over Christ and His commission. Christ doesn't wait for approval from His male disciples when He gives Living Water and His Gifts to women. He doesn't wait for His male disciples to overcome their cultural ideas for other races, gender, past sins, professional occupation, egos etc..

@@dianawilliams6700 The Bible says though that women cannot preach / teach men in the church,1 Tim 2.11-14, 1 Cor 14.33-37. This was something I've struggled with as well, as it's not a cultural thing, but a command from God. I think the only time we can is when men aren't obeying God's command for them to lead and lead correctly, but I have no basis for this except using other contexts as precedents, such as Abigail. We cannot ignore parts of the Bible just because we don't like them or they don't fit what we'd like culture to be; we must always choose the instruction of the Word over the fatuous dictates of culture.

@@snopureI understand that this post of yours was from at least a year ago. I just felt a probing of the Spirit to tell you that the Scriptures that you shared does not include preaching. It only says that women are not to teach men or usurp authority over the men. You are not the only person who has grouped preach, and teach together. However, they are two separate distinct callings of God as part of the five fold ministry listed in Ephesians chapter 4. ❤

I agree those are missing from most churches. I’d like to see more of it, and more ministering to communities as well, and for people to take John 14:12 more seriously. Very few will even agree that Jesus actually meant what he said. Most try to dismiss it. Jesus has very high expectations of his followers. He isn’t looking for a bunch of benchwarmers that just want a spot in heaven, and don’t do much, if anything, beyond that.

@@snopure Yes, I've never fought those verses and just let God open whatever doors I can walk through and be of service.

Deacons are to be MEN. "12 Let deacons be husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well." 1 Timothy 3:11-12 (ASV) Wives and children thus obedient and under the husbands' rule.

@@thewatcher96 you keep saying that. Where did this say let only men be deacons? It didn't. It says the men to be servants in the church have one wife and be a great leader in their homes. God can use whom he pleases to preach His word. Dont quantify or limit My Father based on your limited fragile masculine viewpoint.

Thank you for your service in the Kingdom sister. The counsil that put together the Bible severely undermined the importance of women in leadership and struck many out of the scriptures because they never wanted a female pope. How shameful. Christ himself said he will pour out his spirit upon ALL flesh and that all that follow him will do what he did and greater. He didn't say only the men. The 1st century church wouldn't have made it without women as many were called to lead and preach the word. And thank God for Mary Magdalene who believed Jesus rose from the dead when her male counterparts denied it was possible even when Christ said he would. Maybe this is why God called women to lead the early church. We are more humbly susceptible to His messages.

@@robertomontanez1163 i read the same Bible you did and studied beyond and never found what you're saying. Provide scriptures evidence with proper context.

@@SDGirl05 stated, " Where did this say let only men be deacons?" "8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well". 1 Timothy 3:8-12 (KJV) HTH.

Ra Marduk, yes, Jezebel played a role of ungodliness & unrighteousness, & most of all the spirit of Jezebel is a spirit of wanting 'power & control' absolutely nothing like the Godly women of the Bible! Also remember Ra Marduk, men also, can & do have the spirit of Jezebel, not at all Godly in either a man or a woman !!!

@Ra Marduk Proverbs 18 : 2 A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.

How come Paul didn't specify gender with the five fold ministry in Ephesians? Hint: because anyone can in those offices. Why? Hint: there is neither Jew nor gentile in the body of Christ because women don't get a "pink Holy Spirit" and men don't get a "blue Holy Spirit". There are many gifts, but ONE SPIRIT. People need to take those churches history into account.

@@blam9360 Paul doesn't mention gender in the Epistle to the Ephesians, because he had already spent *over two years* there establishing the Church and putting things in order (Acts 19:8-10), and then *left Timothy* there, to straighten out any issues (1 Timothy 1:3). Including making sure that women did not take positions of leadership, or teaching roles (1 Timothy 2:11-15).

1 Tim 2:9-15

Justin Chamberlain I don’t see the name Junia in that passage. I guess I must need my eyesight checked. What I saw was a letter Paul wrote specifically to the new church in Ephasus addressing, not gender roles, but the issue of false teachings. Like if a politician becomes a Christian and then believes that automatically qualifies him to be a pastor. It doesn’t, he needs to be quiet, sit down, and learn what it is to be a Christian first. That is what he is saying to these women. Women who were likely leaders in pagan temples. They needed to learn before assuming any authority. Do an in depth study on the original words and meanings and you’ll find that what he says is actually closer to “I do not (presently) permit a woman to teach or exercise her authority inappropriately over a man”. If you read the whole book you will see the constant concern is being properly equipped before assuming leadership in the church. If you look at the whole of Paul’s writings you see him exalt women in leadership. Context, context, context.

There is irrefutable evidence that every region of the early church had deaconesses. These were soon restricted to widows. But that wasn’t biblical. We are also missing our women in the women’s ministry according to Titus 2. No man should be counseling young women, according to Titus.

Your point being?

Have you read the writings of early church father (4th century) John Chrysostom? Archbishop of Constantinople? He and his contemporaries identify Junia as male...

I didn't think a one sided divorce was possible in the west in this day. I'm in Canada, but I knew a couple that from decades back, where the husband could not get his ex (but technically still legal wife) to sign divorce documents. He and his commonlaw wife were forced to stay commonlaw, just out of vindictiveness, because his ex was commonlaw too. Go figure.

Amen sister peach Gods word!

@@saintejeannedarc9460 - it's similar to a civil law suit. There is a complainant and a respondent. One spouse sues the other. You don't have to respond, but you'll likely be in contempt of court and rules against in a preliminary ruling or summary judgement.

@@holychildofgod3778 Amen amen amen. the word of God is a lamp unto my feet.

@@holychildofgod3778 Deborah a Prophetess and Judge, Judith also who was placed by God in a leadership position...the women Paul describes for them to greet because the met in her house... especially 2 John.. very clearly. I'm not into names. But consider this we live in a world when *men* surrender the *birth rights* and become homosexual, transgendered and exchange their glory for another. In their grevious mistake...do you think all the gifts and talents God invested in the man will go to waste...no but the God that we serve will use anything. He used a donkey brethren Listen til this day, people are able to see signs in the sky why? Because God established it in order to communicate with men. Now Joel 2 says he will pour out His spirit upon all flesh and the old men...the young men...the maidens (women) will be prophesying...I love you. Lets continue to pray for one another!

Wrong! Read Acts. Four women are mentioned as heading churches

@@detroitbaby161 which part of Romans? Thank you.

So Christ in us saves others.

@@afkcnd2395 I am only God's vessel to sow seeds (the word of God) to others. The power of God brings the increase. It's all of God and none of me.

@@lorielogan1816 Well humility is a good thing but we must stay biblical. If it was all of God it wouldn't be a good work, they would be no reward. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. Romans 4:4 There is a reward for saving souls therefore its a good work, you have your part in it. But you only work because God created the will in you. There are plenty of verses on this, Paul called Christians he's work.

@@afkcnd2395 One plants, another sows, but God brings the increase. Be blessed!

@@afkcnd2395 1 Corinthians 3:6-8 6. I have planted, Apollos have watered; but God gave the increase. 7. So then neither is he that planteth anything, neither is he that watereth; but God giveth the increase. 8. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one; and every man shall receive his reward according to his own labour. That is why I said it is ALL of God who brings the increase. God does not need me, but I need him. He can choose anyone he decides to do his will but he receives all the glory. Amen!

The whole problem to begin with is that the Greek word only became defined as "a servant" in the 3rd century by the RCC....... Before that every usage I could find was that of "one who serves as a minister".........

@@kennethcadwell2124 what is the RCC? Thanks.

@@annlowry9841 RCC is the Roman Catholic church........ The Protestant churches started (Reformation movement) to counter the false teachings of the RCC. However to this day some Protestant churches still hold to some of the corruption the RCC did.......

@@kennethcadwell2124 ohhhhh...i feel so stupid now 😂😂😂. I should have figured that out. Thanks.

@Kenneth Cadwell do you mind sending me an article or study on either this specific word being manipulate by the RCC, or the topic as a whole? Just interested to learn more :) thanks!

There is neither jew nor gentile. Man or woman. Old or young but all are one in Jesus. The leading of the Holy Spirit is not to be diminished by religious men and women. "Determine between your selves whether or not it is good to serve man rather then God, but for me I shall serve the Lord." Do children receive a different Spirit then the elders? Do Jews get a better Spirit then the gentiles? Do men have better listening skills to the Holy Spirit then women? If one speaks of her self then she has no business being in ministry. However the same can be said of men as well.

If she isn’t following the Bible then yes. It tells women not to preach but to teach the kids. Head of the kids is the woman , head of woman is man and head of man is Christ

@@robertomontanez1163 when led by the Holy Spirit children can teach. The youngest king was an eight year old. However, will we have ears to hear what the Spirit says? In regards to saying, the Holy Spirit is restrained or rather 'restricted' is *excuse me* but garbage. It was bold women that spoke with authority in the Holy Spirit, laying hands on me to delivered me from homosexuality. The woman that discipled me, used to be a witch. It was the love of Jesus that touched her life. She left the demonic power that she had. Now standing in the authority of Jesus the Messiah, through the Spirit of God, walks in deliverance ministry. She, her daughter, 2boys, and myself. Whether it be casting out an unclean spirit of homosexuality, fear, confusion, self righteousness, manipulation, bitterness, etc. The same commission was given to any that believe. Salvation and the GoodNews of the "Kingdom of Heaven" or the "Reign of God" is within who ever asks and believes. We have witnessed the Father move several times in our lives. Whether it be deliverance for a Luciffarian, an Atheist, or even a Christian. We have seen so many be delivered from oppressive and possessive spirits. I warn and erge you not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit! The Pharisees said that Jesus casts out demons through the name of Beelzebub because he laid hands on the sick and cast out devils. Through the same Holy Spirit, these wonderful sisters in Messiah and myself have layed hands on the sick and cast out demons. *And even raised a boy from the dead (this one happened before I met them. However I did get to meet the boy that was raised from the dead).* It's the Spirit of God who lives and dwells inside of us. The Pharisees blasphemy the Holy Spirit by claiming it was demonic power. They slandered the gift of God as though it was unclean. "But if you Blasphem of the Holy Spirit this will not be forgiven of you in this life or the one to come." -Jesus Blasphemy is to slander the name or character of God. Example: God is really okay if you break His commands there is grace. *Blasphemy* The Spirit of Grace empowers us to walk out righteousness that we couldn't because we once were enslaved to the law of sin in the flesh. 3 times in my life have different prophets ministered to me saying you will Lead many to Christ. Once when I was 13. He, the Prophet spoke and laid hands on me saying, "You will lead many to Christ." I thought to myself, "oh, that's nice. But, no thank you. I don't like to talk to people and I would rather observe people and listen. Then be in the spot light." 😅 8years later another lays hands on me and speaks the same thing and then I remember what I dismissed all those years ago. Only this time I was able to realize that it was a prophetic word and expounded upon. The prophet spoke as though it was God Himself speaking to me. Calling me 'little lamb'... only my mother called me that. He said, ("Just as you have been my little lamb for all these years. I am raising you up to be a lion to seek out the lies of the enemy to destroy and Lead many.") A year later another prophecies the same thing. 2 years later as I am Leading a bible study of mixed people. A catholic young man gets all huffy and starts to say, "the apostles died out who can teach us. Are you an apostle? Have you had hands lain on you?" And the Father reminded me. ("I said you shall Lead many.") I responded, "I know I know."😒 Then again He said to me, ("I said you shall Lead many.") Then I stoped and said, "you did". He then asked, ("is this not a position of office I have call you too"?) I didn't want it to begin with but, through 3 prophets and God confirming 3times who am I and who are you to deny the voice of God. "A kingdom divided against it's self can not stand." -Jesus Why would the devil speak to me and lead people to Jesus. And cast out devils by devils? Is the devils desire that we obey and desire a relationship with God? To lead people to walk in righteousness? And to submit and surrender there whole life to Jesus? No. The adversary the devil is seeking like a lion whom he may devour. Kill, steal, and destroy. Not to heal, cast out them self and guide them to righteousness. Again clamming that the Kingdom of God and the works of It, is of an unclean spirit,is blasphemy. Blasphemy of the Holy spirit. You have not blasphemed, if I understood you correctly. But I wright to you in warning, to be careful not to stumble. I care for you brother, may the Father lead you and guide you by His Holy Spirit and His Word. Not by a man. SHALOM brother.

@Kevin Belgrove Amen Brother. I also use the name Yeshua. I am not a sacred namer. I have seen the Ruach HaQodesh heal in the name of Jesus many times. If I had went to Mexico, people would call me Raquel. And similar in Hebrew. In French 🤷‍♀️ IDK. But I guarantee it is different. Will I be offended if someone calls me by another name that means Rachel, No. There is power in the Name(Character) of Messiah. You probably already know this brother. But, Hebrew is a action based language. The word, "name", in Hebrew is שם "shem". And this means character. So, when someone's named "Caleb" כלב it means loyal, the character of a dog. "Rachel" רחל means lamb of Elohim, character of a little lamb. "Yehoshua" יהשוע the character of Yehovah. Is His name mystical, No. But there is power behind the character of Yeshua. Belief in who He is and what He has done. The first and last, what He was and is and is to come. When speaking to mainstream chriatianity. Normally I us the name Jesus. -Blessing brother, Shalom.

@Kevin Belgrove You speak of things you do not know. I also had a Spirit of self righteousness. Thinking in the Scriptures and obedience I would have salvation. It was Jesus/Yeshua that lead me back to the Torah of Yehovah. I surrender ALL my life and He led me through His Ruach. I wanted to live to the T of what the bible said. And then found that I was being rebuked from the Father. He asked me, "was I not patient with you? Did I not draw you in by my love?" He gave me a dream. And showed me how His people are wounding each other. I would like to ask you as you brother. Did Yehovah not draw you in by His Goodness. Or did He beat you and condemn you when you fell? The Father taught me that (speaking truth because you love someone is NOT the same as speaking truth in love.) Brother I used to be a clanging cymbal. But It's the Goodness of Yehovah that leads all men to repentance. Salvation doesn't come by works of reading your bible every day and it doesn't come by even praying every day. Salvation comes by the Grace of Yehovah. His Spirit of Grace that empowers us to walk out righteousness. If salvation was by works then it would be not of Grace. But the Power of the Spirit of GRACE we walk out righteousness. We don't obey the law for salvation. We obey the law because we are saved form the bondage(slavery) of sin(breaking the law) in the flesh. Blessings Shalom

I'm living across the street from IHOP right now. Weird place.

@@TheFreedomDefender good place.

@@victorvanvyver6394 its not for me.

@@TheFreedomDefender you can see their 24 hour online, prayerroom on RU-vid. So you don't have to guess what they do.

@@victorvanvyver6394 I used to be on staff.

I’m not saying these are female elders in the overseer sense. But they are older women in pastoral roles. You’re young. I’m quite a bit older. I can’t tell you how wise Paul was in this instruction!

No they are not women in pastoral roles.... A woman's pulpit is her home and her kids are her church

dieselcowboy777, people have been debating this one for years. One verse is telling us who taught Apollos about the Holy Spirit. We have judges and prophets in the OT who are women. Deborah may be the only one mentioned as a judge but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t more.

dieselcowboy777, who was the first evangelist? The woman at the well or Mary Magdalene? It wasn’t a man

@@michaelbrickley2443 oh geez....she was not an evangelist....that is absurd She was just telling people her testimony

What were your conclusions? As far as I've found, there were occasions of women in some capacity of ministry and Deborah as a judge in the OT, Joan of Arc (my namesake) as a mascot and pseudo guide of the French army back when women were also not usually in leadership roles. We all know there have been queens as well. So I think it's not meant to be the norm, like leftists are trying to do w/ women now, but God has always raised exceptional women, but if it was as common as it's forced to be now, then the population declines (as it is drastically in the west), because women have a sacred commission to bear and raise children and it's most often given to men to lead.

Population is declining because of secularism only. Not because women have jobs. Good grief. Lots of women in the Middle Ages had “careers” as we would call it now (all the silkworkers of London were women for example) or manages estates. They still had kids.

I love bethel church!!

First Timothy wasn't written for everyone to understand. It was was written specifically for the church leaders. First Timothy is a personal letter and a handbook of church administration and discipline from Paul to Timothy (a young leader (minister).

Does anyone know if he ended up doing one yet? I agree

"3 For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having **itching ears**, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto fables." 2 Timothy 4:2-4 (ASV)

@@thewatcher96 Thanks...I never knew that was in Tim 2 V 3 heap teachers to themselves etc.

@@smiiler1000 It's in 2 Timothy 4:3-4

Same ive always said brother and sister out of southeast Louisiana

@Kevin Belgrove and as usual by saying this you don't know how transliteration works. As it doesn't matter if you say His name in its English form, Greek form, or Hebrew form......... We are all still calling on the same Lord....... Those of you who argue this point fail to acknowledge the Lord's name in Hebrew is different than it is in Greek....... As notice scripture also says He will be called Emmanuel...... Limiting the Lord to just one transliteration of His name is false guidance........

@Kevin Belgrove no its not as again you are using translation, not transliteration which is how Gus name Jesus came to be...... And no transliteration is not the same in every language. My name as well as yours is pronounced differently in Spanish, Japanese, and so on....... It's nonsense and easy to debunk that all names are pronounced the same in any language.......

@Kevin Belgrove first I know what His name is in Hebrew, and since you just condemned me it shows you are not His. Because if you were His you would know His warning about condemning others...... God's Word says when you condemn another you are actually pronouncing that judgment on yourself.......

@Kevin Belgrove again you pronounce condemnation on me and not just me but my family to. You better repent and pray because again Jesus and Paul said if you condemn others you actually condemn yourself.......

@Kevin Belgrove as I said you don't know the Lord Jesus Christ nor have you been born again with the Holy Spirit if you think it's okay to condemn people........ And I suggest you repent....... Since you think you are the elect, you probably think you are part of the 144,000 ???? Are you a Jew or a Gentile, and I mean by Jew not a flesh and blood born of the 12 tribes........... And it is you that has the lying tongue if you think the Lord's name can only be said in its Hebrew form...... From the Greek to Latin it becomes in transliteration Yeshua, and from the Latin to English it becomes Jesus.......... Thus by you claiming it's always only the Hebraic form is wrong, as in case you haven't read through God's Word lately scripture calls the Lord our God by many names....... But you go right ahead and think only I version is acceptable.........

There is multiple documents from the first 5 centuries of the Church like Papyrus 46 that confirm Junia as a female Apostle.......

@@kennethcadwell2124 Have you written out your studies, or recorded them on video? Mike already has a belief about a woman's role concerning authority in The Bible. Right, or wrong in his prejudged conclusions, he seems to go to lengths to find ways to "dumb down" what is seemingly quite evident about certain great women in The New Testament. One can do this convincingly, but is it the reality of the Bible?

@@kathleennorton6108 I have written them down but what holds me back still is I want to make sure I am able to answer each question that could be presented to me. I am working on that though as I want to make sure I can do the work and what I say is only truth from scripture before I start posting things....... For I don't want to be like a good portion of youtubers who I have seen that speak against certain doctrines while they themselves error in some things they say........ At least Mike here admits that even though he holds a certain understanding, that he hasn't actually done to much indepth research on the subject and would change his mind if he see's things in research...... So I simply gave him a little insight into looking into.the corruptions the RCC did starting in the third century....... Me myself have though if you want to know my background. Have lead Bible studies, done prison ministry, and have gone around evangelizing........ I have also been called to counsel a couple people...... I have over 30 years in the Church, but only accepted my calling of what position the Lord wants me in 12 years ago........

@@kennethcadwell2124 2 Corinthians 8:23 As for Titus, he is my partner and fellow worker among you; as for our brethren, they are messengers of the churches, a glory to Christ. Philippians 2:25 But I thought it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, who is also your messenger and minister to my need; Messenger being αποστολος in both of the above. I agree that Ιουνιαν is likely a female, but there is no cause to assume αποστολος is used in a technical sense here.

@@jasonr2771 first there is clearly more people called an Apostle in scripture then just the 12 and Paul. To water it down to meaning anything else is just a wrong approach in handling the original language...... For examples: "Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, AS THE APOSTLES OF CHRIST." (1 Thessalonians 2:6) Paul made this statement in reference to himself, Timothy, and Silas....... So they were Apostles...... As for Junia again as I told another there is multiple other writings from the first 4 centuries of the Church that confirms Junia's identity...... Like Papyrus 46 which confirms both that she was a female and an Apostle.......

that is the amazing thing, about these types, of studies...they seem to be Biblical....but the results, of the study...are no where to be found....

@@philipbuckley759 Please be a little plainer, can't quite get the true meaning from what you are saying !

Thank you very much for your beautiful addition to the conversation. You are a blessing to others. Keep on spreading the truth and doing God’s work, brother in Christ.

I may have to type this comment to add to my notes so I can read the references

Yeah. I've thought the same thing. My husband used to get offended when I would talk to one of the pastors and I never called him pastor, I just called him by his name or called him brother.

Rosanna Miller *Some men.

Bryan Bridges absolutely!! Thank you, precious brother in Christ, Amen. I stand corrected and thankful.

Rosanna Miller There was no need to thank me, I just standing up for me, I mean men. XD God bless you, sister.

Huh?

I disagree, Paul said in Timothy that a woman should not teach in the church, and he was clear why. A woman can teach other woman how to be good wives and moms. Paul says a woman must not have authority over men. It's Gods order of things... not ours. We should submit to God and His authority over us... woman can't be pastors or elders. The bible says so

Amen. I also feel well put too many “hats” on our pastors and elders and other should be sharing those loads. Especially elders teaching as the Bible states they should be able to do as qualifications to be an elder. When is the last time you heard an elder preach regularly in your church?! I would think both evangelism and discipleship to be more important since it is directly ministering to the unsaved and also biblically teaching and directing new converts about Bible apologetics. That has a lot of importance because when you guide new disciples you are laying their biblical foundations to discern wisdom and truth and set them on their spiritual “working out of their salvation”. We need the right biblically-minded people in discipleship and teaching positions in our local body of believers.

That’s exactly how I feel. As a women I’ll happily let a man lead a gathering a church members because I know that my job as serving my community and raising a family holistically is vastly more important. Like Mike said, you can’t be a teacher unless you have someone evangelizing to bring you more believers to teach.

@Kevin Belgrove What a ridiculous argument! Jesus is Yahushua's name translated into English. In Vietnamese it would be Chúa Giêsu. In Uzbek it is Iso. The name "George" would be Yuri in Russian and Jorge in Spanish. Not a hard concept to grasp is it? The New Testament was written in Greek, not Hebrew, so Yahushua's name was written as "Iēsous".

@Kevin Belgrove Nobody has the original scriptures (manuscripts) including you. They have all turned to dust. All we have today are copies of the manuscripts, some of which are very old. All the biblical scholars I have read say that the Old Testament was written in Hebrew and Aramaic while the New Testament was written in Greek (probably because in the Roman empire, Greek was the equivalent of English in today's world). It's interesting how when you quote Acts 4:10-12 (in what ever version you are quoting from), all the words except for "Yahushua HaMashiach" and "Yisrael" are in English. I wonder why it's OK to translate most of Acts 4:10-12 into another language other than Hebrew, but not the name of God and Jesus? It seems like you are a gnostic. If one doesn't say God's and Jesus' names in Hebrew, he can't be saved. You have to have the secret knowledge of the correct pronunciation of Jesus' and God's names in order to obtain salvation and if you dare to translate those names into their exact equivalents in another language, then you will be eternally damned! Is that how it works? No, thank God that's not how it works! I realize that trying to reason with someone like you is a waste of time. You have no eyes to see or ears to hear. May God have mercy on you!

Hi Kadda, you raise some interesting points. I think the Churches you were a part of were both extreme and there is a balance between the 2. It's clear in scripture that the only exception in role that women miss out on is elder/teacher over men (I don't think it forbids women teaching or leading women). When you look at current persecuted Churches in China the elders of those Churches are targeted and are sometimes arrested and killed. Call me old fashioned, but I would protect a woman from that role in that environment. It is only in the West that this is an argument because it seems like such a prominent celebrity like role inside the Western Modern Church - which was never the original intention. There is even instruction in the Bible to not be "eager" to be a teacher because they are judged more harshly. I think the reason Paul references Adam & Eve in Timothy because we as the Church are not to represent "the fall" where the "roles" and "authority" were reversed, rather we are to represent the God given roles and authority that he ordained. It is never a question of value. Both genders hold the same value. Hope some of these thoughts help :) Bless you.

@@Sbock86 Did not see your reply at all, I somehow don't get notified about them... My main problem with the passage in Timothy is that first of all it is really hard to translate, second the reasoning with Adam and Eve makes no sense at all in that context. You know, it literally says that woman have to bear children in order to be saved unless you translate it more like being saved as someone who bears children. But for that the context of the gnosis is necessary (which is kind of given by the epistle). A lot of that reasoning would make sense as a response to gnostic false teaching in which Eve was seen as someone who enlightened Adam, even gave life to him, and Adam was deceived by Jaldabaoth, and childbirth was considered a damning sin. I read a book by Catherine Clark Kroeger about that. It was really interesting. If a woman can be a teacher to women and children, she can also teach men, I think. I think that we are supposed to teach through the Holy Spirit and would it make a difference then? I think the conservative standpoint where women are held back does more damage than good.

kadda1212 interesting response. Thanks for making it civil, not emotional. Yeah it does make a difference. I still believe it is distinctly a role for men - it is clear that a teacher and an elder seem to go hand in hand. I just don’t get why women have a problem with being able to do everything else but that one thing God reserved for men. (Hang on, maybe I do - eat from all the trees except this one) Jesus even had the perfect opportunity to choose a female representative to show this example, yet he chose 12/12 men. The other thing is that there is encouragement NOT to become teachers because of harsher judgement. Pastors in persecuted churches are targeted and they are dragged, beaten and sometimes killed. As a man who would want to protect them from that danger I would find it downright evil to expect a woman to hold that role in a situation like that. I think the problem we have in the West is that it is a very glamorous role so it is somewhat appealing, when clearly in the Bible it is not. I’m just gonna leave this here too: I’ve heard a lot of sermons and men are just frankly better at it. No shame in saying that.

kadda1212 I realise I repeated most of my last post due to it being a delayed response lol....have a blessed day!

@@Sbock86 I thought 12 disciples due to the 12 tribes, we all have to represent Christ though regardless of who we are. Why want something? It's not so much about wanting rather than using your talent. And some women have teaching talent. And men should not want either. It's not about what we want. It's not about honor or glory, just about sharing something - giving advice to someone who needs it or so.

You’re really misunderstanding if you think that God has restricted the majority of the human race for all time from teaching the others. The sheer illogic shows that there’s something going on that Paul alludes to but doesn’t spell out because the people he’s writing to (church at Ephesus) know what he’s talking about (influence from the cult of Diana creeping into the church). This shows why Christians must be educated, or they run the risk of misinterpreting scripture.

@@Himmiefan how do you know this ?

Because I spend a LOT of time in the Word. Never take anyone else’s word for it.

@Patrick Montgomery you seem like someone desperately seeking attention

There’s no scriptures in the Bible that God called a woman to preach or teach the word of God or they got called a woman apostle or bishop or deacon or pastor if you do these things you are in error you are going against the word of God you are lying on God and you will find yourself in hell if you don’t repent

@@vegeta3394 amen brother judgement awaits these liars

I don’t get it...

Can you explain plz?

I'm pretty sure it's the ESV.

Believe*

Where does the bible say in Acts 16 that Lydia was a deacon?

."A SERVANT of the church" KJV. Deacons were to be MEN. "12 Let deacons be husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well." 1 Timothy 3:11-12 (ASV)

@@eldotjay ......."A SERVANT of the church" KJV. Deacons were to be MEN. "12 Let deacons be husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well." 1 Tim 3:11-12 (ASV)

Amen

Well said

They were the one who change Junia to a male name that dont even exist! Why would they hide something thats not anything to hide? Do women make you that angry?

No Thanks Mike made it clear that the pastoral/ teacher and leadership role is not for a women and the Bible backs it up that you can’t be a Pastor if your a women

@@claudiabailey5302 Sooo, does the Bible prohibit women from being prophetesses.??

@@claudiabailey5302 if women REALLY can't be pastors, why didn't Paul say that when I gave the 5 fold ministry in Ephesians 3? Totally different letter.

GodsWordSaves 7 how?

Tice Rippy Because the word "church" brings to our mind images of church buildings and all these different denominations. The word "ekklesia", the word translated church, means a gathering, not a building. When someone holds a bible study, that is church. When someone has a prayer group meeting, that is church. Etc etc etc etc

I mean, it isn't egalitarians claiming the passage is unclear. The preposition is quite simple and clear in context. Junia was among the apostles.

@@DudeDisposableSoul that may be true but no one can say for sure the gender of Junia. Junia could be male or female but if you read the writings of John Chrysostom (4th century archbishop of Constantinople) him and his contemporaries noted Junia as a male apostle.

@@eldotjay We know for certain from early external documents like Papyrus 46 that Junia was both a woman and an Apostle. However those documents have been largely ignored by those who want to maintain the women have to keep silent fiasco. John Chrysostom was one of those who believe in the women keeping silent fiasco. It seems you are one of those too. Study the historical and cultural context of those verses and you may gain an understanding of what Paul was actually saying.

@@DudeDisposableSoul And early external documents like Papyrus 46 back up that Junia was both a woman and an Apostle.

@@nigeltremain1900 _Junia_ was a fellow prisoner with Paul & Andronicus. Did they house male and female together in jails in 1st century Greco-Roman culture? I have studied and researched the history; _Epiphanius_ (315-403AD) in the index of Disciples says “Junias, of whom Paul makes mention become Bishop of Apameia of Syria.” The Greek phrase οὗ _hos_ (meaning of whom) is a masculine relative pronoun, and shows Epiphanius considered Junias a man. Furthermore, in Latin we have a quotation from _Origen_ (does 252AD) in the earliest extant commentary on Romans, says that Paul refers to “Andronicus, Junias and Herodian, all of whom he calls relatives and fellow captives” (Origen’s commentary on Romans, preserved in a Latin translation by Rufinus, ca. 345-ca. 410 AD, in J.P. Minge, Patrologia Graeca, vol 14, col. 1289). The name Junias here is a masculine singular nominative , implying that Origen, who is one of the ancient worlds most prolific scholars, thought Junias was a man. Even with history tending to suggest Junias was male, I still would not make the assumption of Junias’ gender as it isn’t indicated in the passage of scripture. Nor is it indicated in P46. P46 literally transliterates the passage as “ἀσπάσασθε Ἀνδρόνικον καὶ Ἰουνιᾶν τοὺς συγγενεῖς μου καὶ συναιχμαλώτους μου οἵτινές εἰσιν ἐπίσημοι ἐν τοῖς ἀποστόλοις οἳ καὶ πρὸ ἐμοῦ γέγοναν ἐν Χριστῷ”. There is no gender inferred so to say P46 recognises Junia as female is very disingenuous. But if anyone was to know, then I would argue Epiphanius and Origen would likely know better as they lived much closer to the time of the apostles. In a 2008 JBL article, Al Wolters argued that Iounian, accented on the second syllable, was the accusative case of Ἰουνίας, being a Hellenized form of the Hebrew name Yĕḥunnī, which would enable the possibility of this being a male name. (Bruce Waltke, An Old Testament Theology, 241.)

@Patrick Montgomery are you a Christian?do you understand the Holy Scriptures

@@justsobritish kind of echoed on Paul. But looking at old testament it wasn't so restricted. Looking as jesus he had Mary Magdelen. There is a warning about treating woman well as we are cosharers in heaven. We are not supposed to lead that's all. Decon is about right.

@@Odo-so8pj Ohhh Tammy. I appreciate your response. "We're not supposed to lead, that's all" I wish that answer clarified everything.. Alas: Not supposed to lead - how and where? Is that in a secular context or a church context? Is it just in marriage or within the church as a whole (I've heard it argued that Timothy is talking about marriage here not necessarily about church leadership). Women can prophesy in church (implied in 1 Cor. 11:5). And Philip’s daughters prophesy (Acts 21:8-9) but what is new testament prophecy? Some say it's the same as teaching. Is it? What is the difference? When it says authority (authentein) in Timothy is that oppressive authority or is it good leadership (some say the Greek says different things on that)? What about leading a church service? Did Lydia lead a service in her own house or not? Not to mention the whole deacon issue. The description of a deacon is a husband of one wife (1 Tim. 3:8-13) yet Phoebe is a deacon. Why did Paul not use a gender neutral description? Why did Paul not specify that women could be deacons too? What does a deacon even DO? Can a deacon preach? Can a deacon make decisions about the wider church, same as an elder? Administer sacraments? I have more questions but I’ll leave this as a starting point.

@@justsobritish quick response to one of your questions: in the Koine Greek the masculine is often used as generic, including both male and female.

@@justsobritish I am crushed to hear Mike say that. I now feel that God does not love me as much as he loves my brother. I don't necessarily WANT to be a pastor, but why would God deny me if I did? Am I only good enough to sponsor a male pastor financially, or serve the darned coffee?

@@robertomontanez1163 What about a deaconess?

@@robertomontanez1163 I never tried to claim that a woman can be in authority over a man in any circumstances whatsoever. At the same time understand that God never gave men any authority over women. Ephesians chapter 6 God is telling wives to submit to their own husbands, and this is absolutely her own choice whether she does or not. If she doesn't then she does sin against God, and her husband. However, understand that not only did God not command the man to be in authority over his wife but God never gave a man permission to take authority over her. Where in the New Testament Scriptures did Yahshua Messiah ever say that preaching, and prophesying are positions of authority? Nowhere! Yahshua was clear that preachers including himself are to have a servants heart. It's a servitude. So sorry you think it's an authoritarian position. I will remind you that Yahshua told his disciples that the Gentiles lord it over the people, then he said, "but not so with you." For whosoever thinks that he shall be greatest in the kingdom of heaven shall be the least in the kingdom of heaven.

@@robertomontanez1163 The authority belongs to God, not men. All christians (male/female) were given authority over the power of the enemy, not over other christians.

@@justonetime6179this is a very important, and true point.

@@robertomontanez1163 From the beginning of creation God created both man, and woman male, and female as "equals." When Adam, and Eve sinned because of Eve allowing the serpent to beguile her, only then was the woman cursed by God as he gave the authority to man over the woman but with the promise that a seed would come from the woman that would crush the head of the serpent. That seed was Yahshua the Messiah. When he died he broke this curse over the woman. Now men do not own women like cattle as in the Old Testament times. The apostle Paul wrote about women by name as hard working minister's that were diligently labouring in the faith including them in his list that the people were to salute, and greet. I noticed that you included in your list women such as Mary Magdalene who was never called to be one of God's prophetess's or called to be any type of minister period. Unfortunately, you have allowed yourself to be falsely indoctrinated by high minded men who refuse to except the New Testament Scriptures that Yahshua, and his Apostles established as our New Covenant. Now any willing vessel filled with the Holy Ghost can, and does operate in all of the gifts of the Spirit listed in 1 Corinthians chapter 12 which do fall under the five fold ministry listed in Ephesians chapter 4 for the perfecting of the saints in the church. God called me to salvation from the young tender age of 4 years old because he has chosen to use me in some of these gifts of his Spirit within my own family, and also in the ministry to preach, prophesy, speak in tongues, healings, and miracles. If I didn't answer my calling from God, I would have to answer to him.

@@robertomontanez1163 what you’ve said is unbiblical. Please quote the passage that you got all of that from...

@Ra Marduk Assuming you mean greeting people (especially those you know) with a kiss - I don't know where you live, but that custom has never gone away where I live. Do you not give your grandmother (for example) a kiss on the cheek when you greet her? I thought this was universal. I guess not.

Jesus wasnt upset with judas he knew beforehand who would betray him .that's why he said do what you have to do quickly The son of pedition was lost so that scripture might be fulfilled

This custom is practiced on my mother's side of the family I was adopted into. It's not uncommon in Middle Eastern practice either. Usually, it's a greeting and kiss peck on the cheek.

the new testament was written in Greek........the Latin text is ,,,was...a CORRUPT CATHOLIC TEXT.....

I wonder about titles because Paul said "greet the brethren by name." In my opinion, titles only address a portion of the person, where their name addresses the entire person. It's like the name of Jesus addresses ALL His titles. That is my take. We may all be brothers and sisters but each person is unique and different. I think it would drive me crazy to hear everybody being called brother or sister. It seems so impersonal.

@@graftme3168 Nah you’re overthinking it.

@@justchilling704 I didn't have to overthink it, it just rubs me wrong.

lol, thats so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the kiss of peace got out of hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that made my night

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a hug and a kiss on the cheek(s) as a form of greeting. Shaking hands is about the most unsanitary thing you can do!

Holy kiss , kiss on both cheeks in friendship like Italians and European countries do Einstien. America has a perverted mentality