Hidizs MP145 - Did they changed the Sound? 

Thanks!

That is enormously frustrating - I was considering getting one, but if they mucked with the tuning, I don't feel like I can trust its going to be what I was expecting.

So… it’s not worth buying the MP145 anymore? Or just changes nozzles and cables

​@@bernaquinonezreveles2952 It's still worth buying. I still use my set regularly

Glad it was helpful!

MP145 is still a great IEM, you just need to swap nozzles to get the sound that suits you better

@@donglemadness Thanks for the tip! bro O maybe I can’t wait for the MP143 hahaha. It’s seems perfect to my tastes. Kinda warn I think or V shape

Awesome. Enjoy your MP145!

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You can remove the foam inside the IEMs. @MichaelBruceShortbus has a video about it. That's what I did, and they are better without that foam. The foam isn't glued or anything, a simple long and thin tweezer will be enough.

Thanks!!! ​@@Bounsy2D

@@Bounsy2D How that's very useful ! 🙏

I won a giveaway for the S8 Pro dongle but I received a faulty unit with a 10db drop at 16khz. Hidizs are a bunch of clowns 😂

No worries. I think it makes sense that Hidizs would release a new one, a year after the release of MP145, sounds about right to me

Yep I saw that lol

Glad I could help

Thanks. Working on S08 now

@@donglemadness Nice thank you! Also Meze Alba is an iem that many talk about!

Same happened w/ the tanchjim oxygen the new 2023-2024 production sounds bad!!!!

Yea, its enormously frustrating as someone who'd just got curious about it and was considering trying one. But thats going to be a no. I wish companies would stop doing this sort of thing. I assume it's due to some change in parts or manufacture, but at that point just call it V2, regardless if its better or worse. Just be honest.

No worries

Warmer than WHAT? 👀

@@TheWorldTeacher warm but detail

Thanks bro :D

My pleasure :D

Damn I was about to buy MP145 after hearing a lotta good reviews about it. I think I will not buy it.

I have the latest one and I find it so bassy/boomy and a bit sibilant so I had to do some tip rolling until the bass got lessened and the upper freq less brighter. So I guess it all boils down to preference? I think it still sounds better than Kefine Klanar, Timeless and KZ PR2.

@@shdvf767, I am selling my fist-run pair.

I just returned mine a few days ago because I was baffled as to why they didn’t sound the way early reviews described them. Bass was just okay and treble was lacking. I tried to give it a chance, even with the silver nozzle.

PREMIUM price? 😬

One thing for sure we will not sacrifice our MP145 just to look what's inside. I personally not into that sort of thing, to destroy any IEMs for curiosity sake, how they sound and perform is what matters more to me, not what's inside

This is not acceptable and this is similar to Kingstone's case with SSDs. Hidizs should inform about changes on time and make changed version recognizable or im another way they could clarify modification and impact on sound. Choosing IEMs customers use reviews but MP145 reviews are not valid now. Hidizs current reaction is funny - they react because of customers confused, no sorry and still no detalis about modifications. The reason I am writing this is because I found differences on sound comparing to your reviews and found issue with left IEM...which was new. It was rattling with MID bass so finally returned IEMs. I am confused because of Hidizs company's policy and customers treatment and also quality Control. Be honest...this is not the same product. With earlier version we also had nozzles and be able to modify characteristic so in case of any change inside IEM you will have also differences in impression using different nozzles. Maybe this is still good product but Hidizs company made step in wrong side

No problem!

@@donglemadness thanks bro, sbnrnya ada planning duk usha2 mp145 🙏

Still a great IEM, you just need to use the Silver nozzle

Thanks! The eartips depends a lot on individual ear which could differ from one person to another. Like me, I always prefer KZ foam tips because it works best for many of my IEMs, but some people will find foam tips not working at all for them. So this is something that would require some test on the user side

@@donglemadness Ok I see. So I think I got my best ear tips choice then ( _TRN or Moondrop silicone_ ) I may try a smaller bore to judge, just in case ... Edit : problems solved. - ripped off the filter with a needle from the red tuning nozzles. - Keep Hidizs silicone neutral small bore for any music genre in my carrying box. - Keep TRN/Moondrop silicone wide bore pair ear tips too for Classical/Modern Classical and Orchestral for wider sound stage. 🔥 Just a week of use and a 100 hrs burn in then I'll switch my listening cessions on Tube Amp. and Cmoy portable Amp. 😍

Both me and Ben do not feel that there's loss of soundstage

@@donglemadness agree, heard both

Thanks!

Thanks. MP145 is still a great IEM, they did change the tuning but you just need to play with the nozzles to get the right sound you want

@@donglemadness, yah it just sucks that when you have the latest version of mp145 and instead of plug and play after you unbox it, you need to tweak with the nozzles first to suit with your sound preference.

​@@bamskie2024The inherent design isn't plug and play. That's not how the hobby works due to everyones hearing being different. Different ear shapes and hearing abilities. That's why I find it brilliant for any designer to incorporate tuning nozzles and multiple sets of tips.

@@views8962 thanks for your insight! appreciated!

@@donglemadness Were you able to compare yours and his tuning nozzles? One other thing to rule out.

You can remove the foam inside the IEMs. @MichaelBruceShortbus has a video about it. That's what I did, and they are better without that foam, less damped. The foam isn't glued or anything; a simple long and thin tweezer will be enough.

@@Bounsy2D I did that mod already and am using them without the nozzles right now (another shortbus tip). Definitely makes them sound less dampened but still not as spectacular as everyone is making them out to be IMO.

Yes, I think that's what exactly what me and Ben said here. Silver nozzle works great on newer MP145, Gold nozzle offer the same effect on the earlier MP145

as per my info received that Hidizs is a start-up company. I mean, you know that type of company.

Ear tips will depend a lot on you own ears as we do have different shape to our ear cavity. Having said that, I personally like MP145 with KZ foam tips, but no guarantee this will work for you as well. Ear tips need trial and error to find the best. For cables, you can either get my AAV Valkynaz or NICEHCK MixPP 6N OCC

Will I be able to experience the same feeling as the old, well-received MP145 if I use a silver filter?

Some hint? MP143 seems to be tuned to offer different variation of MP145 tuning, a bit more relaxed if you will. But my full review will be up soon. Thanks!

@@donglemadness Thank you so much for the hint andy. I'll look forward to the full review!!!

Working on it

I experienced poor service from them also. 👀

It's practically the same once the nozzles are matched, so no worries

3 months after July 2023 is when people started to say there's differences

We have no access to tools to measure

@@donglemadness A copy 711 coupler is $100 and is still the standard for measurements at least a year or two until a copy 5128 comes out. It's easy stuff in the end.

@@aaronignacio4652 It's the same wide open soundstage and resolution, you just need to match the right nozzles and all is good

@@donglemadnessthanks, andy! Before I decide, I think I'm going to wait for your mp143 review and recommendation.

Yes that's the idea

Maybe

As mentioned in this video, the rose gold nozzle is warm sounding on the new verison, but perfect for the early gen. For the newer version, it sounds much better with silver nozzle (silver nozzle on early gen will sound very bright)

​@@donglemadness Thank you, I will try it out now.

I use the 2.0

KA11 is smoother across all frequencies

@@donglemadness thank you for the reply andy, justice for AKM velvet ??😂😂

71 does not exhibit the traditional AKM tuning, the way they tuned it is more like ESS Sabre instead

@@donglemadness i had the 7hz 71 but it returned as it didnt have enough power to drive hd599, so i returned and got the shanling U1S but it turned out to be a trash, it sounds soo peaky and tuning is worse. I think shanling themself knew it was trash and upgraded to UA1 Plus with cirrus logic.

None other than AAV Valkynaz which I made myself, for further details you can watch my video on it. $50 for the cable and to place an order just email me at Andyaudiovault@gmail.com

I favor DUNU Titan S2 more

@donglemadness if the dunu titan s2 comparing to letshuoer s12? The price now isn't too far apart. Should i go for the letshuoer s12?

Yep. testing one now

@@donglemadness Oh, that's good news. I'm looking forward to your review 👍

They all looked the same. You use whichever nozzle that works best for your ears, only you can determine that, which sound you like the most

@@donglemadness Thank you

Still working on it

The old one, the same unit you saw in my MP145 review as it was released last year

I don't have the means to do graphs

Going by personal experience, it does change the sound. If the cable is broken somewhere, no sound comes out from the drivers. There's the change. 😅

Crappy KZ cables also exist... I was sure KZ IEMs were V-shaped until I bought a 10$ cable for em and all the mids appeared...

it does

@@LeDechaine Yup, i have similar encounter. I genuinely whole heartedly believed people that it doesnt make a difference and went with that for years. One day i use a simple cheapie KBear 3rd party cable (which i bought for purely aesthetics to match my desk tone) without paying attention or looking for differences and i was just listening to music because i never believe it anyway, and it stopped me doing whatever i was doing because i could tell the sound was different. Maybe luck would have it that coincidentally i had been listening the same IEM (single dynamic driver) for sometime and very very familiar with its sound with stock cable. When the cable was switched, i swear the difference is there. For my case, i believe the stock cable i was using was actually lower quality which had limited the full capability of the IEM giving me a thinner sound and missing fullness. I actually kept this stock cable because its my evidence that there is a difference

How, just use what nozzle works best?

@@KiwiNickG there is no 'best' sound. Just a lot of messing around with nozzles, tips and apparently now cables.