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@Foxtrot6624
@Foxtrot6624 3 года назад
This was one of the most incoherent, uninformative ,subjective rambling reviews I've ever watched, and I loved every single second of it. 10/10, will be subscribing
@sethagastya
@sethagastya 3 года назад
Foxtrot6624 welcome to z reviews
@grant9634
@grant9634 3 года назад
lol
@Hikebike365
@Hikebike365 3 года назад
He's the Jack Black of everything audio.... Rock on
@HamBone123456789ten
@HamBone123456789ten 3 года назад
Listen to the first 10 seconds of any review, then use your gut feeling. It’ll save you 24 min every time. The opening line says it all, every damn time but still, I watch the entire video.
@HaTeCrEw93
@HaTeCrEw93 4 года назад
" I'm not here to make sense, i'm here to make sex. With your ears. " -ZeosPantera, 2019
@shadowboxer47
@shadowboxer47 3 года назад
I've watched a lot of your videos but this was the first one that made me go out and buy a pair of headphones on the fly
@JanisKudins
@JanisKudins 3 года назад
Mee too very close.. only 400i 2020 version model for 2x lower price looks good too.. not sure yet.
@wolandphotography
@wolandphotography 3 года назад
i just ordered after have M1060, hope its better
@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt
@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt 3 года назад
@@wolandphotography Get it yet?
@wolandphotography
@wolandphotography 3 года назад
@@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt yeah, slow lazy sound, not my style, i wanna sold them now now and looking for some double magnesium Planars
@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt
@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt 3 года назад
@@wolandphotography interesting. Idk Im kinda backing off planars if or when I get a different set. I don't like how un portable they can become Because of power requirements needed to really make them sound proper.
@sandmann521
@sandmann521 3 года назад
First headphone review I've ever watched. "There is none headphone perfect". From an electric guitar, tube amp, and pedal hobbyist who is also a mouse and keyboard enthusiast, fantastic job. The best hobbies are those that give you the room to always seek something better. I've never spent more than ~$150 on headphones, and I thought that was enough, but always knew that guitars just didn't sound the same as they do in person. The best I've ever had, subjectively, are the HyperX Cloud II straight into my motherboard's integrated amp, so I basically feel like I know nothing. I'm a total noob to this scene, but so far, this set will be my entry once I can afford it along with a suitable amp. Thanks for a great video!
@brandonkey181
@brandonkey181 2 года назад
So. How did it go? Are you past the 1k mark yet?
@SidewaysShadow
@SidewaysShadow 4 года назад
The Sundaras have been my favorite and end game headphone for everything since I ever picked one up new (open box) for $280. Haven't changed the pads or anything on the Sundaras and I am in love with them. Haven't used my DT880 or HD660S ever since.
@carlob95
@carlob95 4 года назад
Robert Daugherty oh man! I have dt880 and hd600 that I like a lot but I’m shopping for kind if a upgrade...I thing you convinced me for the Sundara.
@jensenyeow5723
@jensenyeow5723 4 года назад
@@carlob95 the pair is amazing. Fantastic tonality and detail. It blew me away when i tried. Source: cord mojo
@MrJodete23
@MrJodete23 4 года назад
Hows gaming on these? Are they difficult to drive?
@SidewaysShadow
@SidewaysShadow 4 года назад
@@MrJodete23 gaming in my experience has been fantastic. The Sundara is much more airy and open in soundstage than my 660s and DT990 600ohm. It also has the my clarity of details plus It can handle a little bass boost in EQ or dac/amp without distortion. Its also easy to power. I power it just fine with a $40 FiiO e10k
@Tripokaridos22
@Tripokaridos22 3 года назад
Keep your Beyer and Sennheisers u gone need them after some months. Hifiman doesnt last long and thats known to anyone. Personally speaking i get my third pair of Sundaras in 9 days from now. I hope these not have any driver problems.
@superlameusername362
@superlameusername362 4 года назад
It is time Zeos releases his own line of anime b00bie headphones.
@barchetype6430
@barchetype6430 4 года назад
Anime boob pads... *drools*
@superlameusername362
@superlameusername362 4 года назад
The only viable option for pads is silicone. And Zeos should make headphones based on different cup sizes.
@barchetype6430
@barchetype6430 4 года назад
@@superlameusername362 Yes.
@Foppalainen82
@Foppalainen82 4 года назад
@Free Speech Maybe you should get to know the reviewer? Audio is subjective. I was not surprised Zeos liked Sundara. Im not a huge fan of them. They are good but not my preference.
@juanignacio8476
@juanignacio8476 4 года назад
4:32 "someone killed it" xD
@jordohayes
@jordohayes 4 года назад
Got me too lol
@owen-ng8oe
@owen-ng8oe 3 года назад
i don't get it
@allen0088
@allen0088 3 года назад
@@owen-ng8oe the barking was messing up the review then it suddenly stopped. So he said someone killed it (the dog) but then it kept barking so he said came back alive
@robertm8518
@robertm8518 4 года назад
I love the Sundara's, I just got them and they're everything that everyone has boasted about and more! I've tried the Thei Audio, Beyerdynamic DT 780 Studio, Sennheiser HD 58X, 600's, Audio Quest Night Owls, and the Sundara's are my favorite out of all of them by far! Great Review Zeos!
@mayoral897
@mayoral897 4 года назад
@Free Speech so you think the sundaras are worthless, why? I want to buy them, but I am not sure yet
@unclekim0
@unclekim0 4 года назад
@Free Speech you are clearly a basshead 🤣
@unclekim0
@unclekim0 4 года назад
@Free Speech umm.. Okaaay 🤣🤣
@savoyroyale
@savoyroyale 4 года назад
I just got mine yesterday and ahhhhhh!!! The treble is so good...clean, clear , effortless, non sibilant treble. Resolve Reviews has a video called Sundara-coming up for air, it's about as close to 100% of my thoughts you can get. Either they're building them better now or I got a good one cause when i grab it by the headband and shake it hard it doesn't drop spaces and seems sturdy.
@CountCarbsNotCals
@CountCarbsNotCals 4 года назад
Good to know.. I just watched that other review and he wasn't too high on the build quality, but sound quality is good.
@m.gideonhoyle409
@m.gideonhoyle409 4 года назад
I returned these for the Hifiman HE5se's. Less treble on the top end, but substantially more bass on the bottom. Also, in my opinion, better imaging and soundstaging. They list for $699, if you can still get 'em (limited edition cans), but I picked mine up on an Adorama sale for $300. Cost-to-benefit, my best audio purchase ever.
@whn2309
@whn2309 4 года назад
M. Gideon Hoyle What genre of music do you enjoy the most with the HE5se and what amp do you use with them.
@m.gideonhoyle409
@m.gideonhoyle409 4 года назад
@@whn2309 I listen to a variety of genres: prog rock, "classic" rock, metal, alternative pop, folk/pop, jazz. The HE5se is a good all-arounder, so it doesn't really lag with a particular type of music. My amp is a Liquid Spark, which sits at the end of a chain that includes Tidal Hi Fi streaming to the Roon app, then through Fx Sound Enhancer and a Schiit Modi 2 DAC to the amp. It's a real budget setup designed to give me the best bang for the buck. Which it does.
@whn2309
@whn2309 4 года назад
M. Gideon Hoyle Thank you.I mainly listen to Jazz and I may pick it up at Amazon. It’s listed for $329. and my only concern is the seller is a merchant I’ve never heard of but since it’s a Prime sale I know Amazon will stand behind it.
@m.gideonhoyle409
@m.gideonhoyle409 4 года назад
@@whn2309 Glad I could help.
@rubenpulles7382
@rubenpulles7382 4 года назад
Dont worry Z, your reciews are an artform
@mostafaabdelnaser7572
@mostafaabdelnaser7572 4 года назад
They truly r.. very expressive, genuine expression. ❤
@kellanmackenzie5230
@kellanmackenzie5230 4 года назад
I am a Campfire Cascade bass head and I approve this headphone. Not saying they have the bass you're looking for; but dollars to donuts one of the most pleasing headphones I've heard. Top 3 at CanJam in my opinion.
@RizqiAngga
@RizqiAngga 4 года назад
I cry when seeing your setup 😭😭😭😭,, such a heaven at yout desk
@minigaangsta
@minigaangsta 4 года назад
They sound like exactly the headphone I am looking for. I was having an ey on the DT1990 but I think these would fit my taste more as I am looking for a headphone that lets me comfortably listen to detail without making my ears hurt or my brain take fire.
@minigaangsta
@minigaangsta 4 года назад
At saturday I actualy went to a local hifi shop (its pretty cool I think) and listened to a few headphones cheapest beeing the sundara. I spend allmost all the time just listening to the sundaras and they left me listening for quite a while. I tryed most of the others twice but always came back to the sundaras. Didnt listen to a higher model from hifiman though as I couldnt afford it anyways. And you could, if you want to, drive this of a phone but the soundquality is seriously worse with less punch and energy in the base, verry hollow voices, sharp highs and actualy some distortion there even over usbc with a dac. With a great amp though they are absolutly amazing I cant wait for when I go back and buy them tomorrow.
@renaldasa9344
@renaldasa9344 3 года назад
@@minigaangsta Did you end up buying them?
@minigaangsta
@minigaangsta 3 года назад
@@renaldasa9344 yes and I absolutly love them.
@renaldasa9344
@renaldasa9344 3 года назад
@@minigaangsta Good to hear. I'm getting my pair soon. Any QC issues?
@AnitaSV
@AnitaSV 4 года назад
It is from Sanskrit so not Sun☀️dara but Su - ndara like super. Sundara means beautiful. Similarly with Susvara means pleasant sound also su- like super.
@harshadlamrood
@harshadlamrood 4 года назад
Anita SV soon-the-raa
@TiagrajI
@TiagrajI 4 года назад
Thank you for the explanation on susvara
@KiyPhi918
@KiyPhi918 4 года назад
Glad I got my second pair before this video came up. I even joined your patreon for this month just to see what you said about them early. These are a steal at $350. Bass heads might add a bit of EQ. I use +6.2dB with a Q of 0.48 and get a great thump. These are open front volume unlike Audeze with their thick pads so their bass extension isn't as far without EQ.
@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt
@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt 3 года назад
whats your eq software name?
@KiyPhi918
@KiyPhi918 3 года назад
@@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt EQ APO. Some people like to also use Peace GUI on top of it but I like it stock
@sujayd
@sujayd 4 года назад
Sundara means beautiful in sanskrit, and yes these sound awesome!!
@ancientslav4863
@ancientslav4863 4 года назад
these of H400i?
@nick8339
@nick8339 4 года назад
Sand what?
@lordjaashin
@lordjaashin 3 года назад
who cares?
@ilhanmikhail1132
@ilhanmikhail1132 3 года назад
@@lordjaashin stfu
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 4 года назад
0:18 $6000 z, SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS...
@barchetype6430
@barchetype6430 4 года назад
LaViva's cheapest tube amplifier is $12k.
@enjoshi-godrez8775
@enjoshi-godrez8775 4 года назад
@@barchetype6430 dont worry, d'agostino got you covered with his most value amp costing $18000. It's like going in to a Michelin star restaurant, to then go out only eat the bread and played a $50 bill.
@barchetype6430
@barchetype6430 4 года назад
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 D'Angostino... EW. Pure snob material.
@TheSolistGamer
@TheSolistGamer 4 года назад
@@barchetype6430 In fact, so snob that his name can't be spelled right.
@gemanjake1434
@gemanjake1434 4 года назад
Finally.I was waiting for this review
@peterdesmidt8742
@peterdesmidt8742 3 года назад
I've had mine for about a month, and I love them. My cord started to fall apart, though, after 2 days of careful use. Hifiman customer service is uninspiring, at best.
@Nonamguys
@Nonamguys 3 года назад
Thankfully we have a great, cheap(ish) cable company that zeos has told us about, Hart audio. They are a masive improvement over those terrible stock cables.
@mhoomans
@mhoomans 4 года назад
Nice review! I'm enjoying my HiFiMan Sundara every day at work and I totally agree that these are very natural/neutral sounding headphones. As a sound designer, that's exactly what I need! :)
@dennisvanderben2719
@dennisvanderben2719 4 года назад
mhoomans would you say these are good for sounds related work? Mixing, scoring, production ? They sound natural to me with a lil weak bass,
@mhoomans
@mhoomans 4 года назад
@@dennisvanderben2719 yes absolutely, I use them all the time for sound design work and producing and I also can do most of the mix on them with ease. I prefer mixing on studio monitors though. I think the bass on them is excellent, they dig pretty deep but don't hype it, so I totally understand that people who are used to headphones with stronger bass, that it might sound a bit recessed. I however think the bass, mids and highs are nicely balanced, it reminds me of good studio monitors.
@dennisvanderben2719
@dennisvanderben2719 4 года назад
@mhoomans I agree with monitors being preferred, just I don’t have a treated room really.. so would like a pair of good cans to help with mix decisions. Thanks for you reply btw now I’m strongly considering these. Do you have experience with k712 pros by any chance?
@mhoomans
@mhoomans 4 года назад
@@dennisvanderben2719 Yes, I've used the K701, K702 and K712 pro before switching brand and pick the Sundara. I don't think the AKG K7xx line is bad, I just think the Sundara is a step up when it comes to resolution/speed. I also feel the Sundara has a more correct soundstage, with the AKG it can be perceived as a bit too wide sometimes.
@dennisvanderben2719
@dennisvanderben2719 4 года назад
@mhoomans thanks for the reply, ended up with hd600 used for 140bucks for now, next goal would be Sundaras😆
@theosamma3a60
@theosamma3a60 4 года назад
I have to agree with you on the Sundara. When I got to review them around 18 months ago I really thought they were a great turning-point for HiFiMAN, especially in the build quality department. The sound, whilst a little bass-light, I thought was also exemplary of what HM can achieve when they actually get their shit together. Unfortunately, it seems more like they were an anomaly since every HM I've reviewed since then have had build quality issues.
@LORDZERO777
@LORDZERO777 4 года назад
Z does it again, I should be receiving these tomorrow and I'm pretty excited
@HogRider420
@HogRider420 3 года назад
what do you think?
@SaraBearRawr0312
@SaraBearRawr0312 3 года назад
I bought these a year ago (january 2020) based on a ton of research as i prefer open backs for soundstage and had wanted to try plannars for years. One year later and my only regret is that I hadnt tried plannars years ago. I love how clean these sound. The only issue i had was that out of the box i got a defective cable with a bad connection inside the jack which wasn't a big deal since i had also ordered a balanced cable for them.
@JohnCiaccio
@JohnCiaccio 4 года назад
We need an ultimate CLOSED planar for budget audiophiles. So many great open ones.
@gundybears
@gundybears 4 года назад
Ether CX, depending on your definition of budget...
@JohnCiaccio
@JohnCiaccio 4 года назад
@@gundybears Budget more like $300ish. Same price for good budget open planars. Some would say the Monolith 1060C's but they seem more average according to reviews and most owners.
@gundybears
@gundybears 4 года назад
@@JohnCiaccio I would like that shootout as well, I couldn't find many closed planars in that range.
@shravananyam
@shravananyam 4 года назад
Audeze Mobius might suit your needs
@JohnCiaccio
@JohnCiaccio 4 года назад
@@shravananyam That's a Bluetooth with built in DAC. Not a passive headphone. Not heard much after the initial reviews. No modding ability really. Since it's got a built in DAC/amp with DSP it's been electronically correct and still have not heard rave reviews so I will pass. Right now the best closed passive planars under 800 are the 1060c by monoprice and they seem to be popular because you can mod them and remove the backs.
@EGH666
@EGH666 4 года назад
I have sundaras and i can say for real they make me cry. eargasms after eargasms.
@luiscardenas2924
@luiscardenas2924 3 года назад
Can you use them with an iPhone?
@ncrtrooper2370
@ncrtrooper2370 3 года назад
@@luiscardenas2924 how can you even casually ask that like its an ok thing to do?
@adrianmorrish8494
@adrianmorrish8494 3 года назад
@@luiscardenas2924 yes you can use them with an iPhone but as Beef Baby said you will need an amp. If you want something reasonably priced that will warm the Sundara up a little look at the hipdac, watch Z's review and then go watch a few more first. Anyone tell you you need a thousand dollar plus amp to bring out the "real sound" then don't subscibe
@gypsygib
@gypsygib 4 года назад
I had the Sundara's they were great on somethings, not so much on others. Especially games. Got some 1990s and have been very happy. Sundara's are like a 9/10 on somethings and a 7/10 on others. 1990s are like an 8-8.5 but on everything with better build quality. Still plan on getting another pair of Sundara's a bit later though. Really loved them for music. "Natural" is the perfect word. Nothing else I experienced in my price range sounded more like I was listening to real voices/instruments, they sound live but better.
@blackoutnine
@blackoutnine 3 года назад
18:36 - and now we have the 400i and 400se. Nice one Zeos
@SussyBaka-em9rq
@SussyBaka-em9rq 3 года назад
True
@Krishnakumar-wl7ih
@Krishnakumar-wl7ih 3 года назад
Just out of curiosity, do you listen to DSDs and FLACs or try the sound quality with lossy compressions like MP3 and AAC too... Do these headphones amplify the lossy compression noise while listening at moderate to high volumes?
@max-6035
@max-6035 4 года назад
Hey zeos, about those red blue and purple wires, where can I buy them for my 4xx’s?
@TheDealer1228
@TheDealer1228 4 года назад
Max - I wish he'd put that info in the description. He never does.
@brianhays2139
@brianhays2139 4 года назад
Those look like periapt cables. He is having issues with a lot of US based cable companies so that maybe why.
@max-6035
@max-6035 4 года назад
After watching hours and hours of Z video’s (and reaching a shopping cart bigger than my years income) I caught zeos saying these cables are custom ursine cables. Too bad we can’t really get our hands on those anymore.
@CheeseTheFish
@CheeseTheFish 4 года назад
He gets them custom made and will not link who makes them
@MrSnoops3d
@MrSnoops3d 4 года назад
Dude I love your reviews!!! Im just getting into audio a bit... but man your presentation is awesome!! wish you reviewed other subjects.. your very entertaining !!!
@metaphorgucci6175
@metaphorgucci6175 4 года назад
Can you put all the cables you’re using for the headphones plz? thanks
@iluvj00
@iluvj00 4 года назад
Oh I'm saving up for these... Already have the he400i and I love them.
@freewheelin100
@freewheelin100 4 года назад
I have the 400i as well. I'm debating the same, but i'm thinking they might be way too similar, minus the head band and maybe slightly less wide soundstage
@NaggingTax29039
@NaggingTax29039 4 года назад
I use honey and it said the lowest price is 290
@iluvj00
@iluvj00 4 года назад
@@freewheelin100 well, I have the hd650 and it wouldn't stop me from buying the hd600 or the hd660s. I just love the planar sound.
@freewheelin100
@freewheelin100 4 года назад
@@iluvj00 that's awesome! Would be great to have plethora of nice headphones to choose from. I just meant conservatively speaking money wise
@iluvj00
@iluvj00 4 года назад
@@freewheelin100 Then buy something like the hd600. Those and the he400i are both very neutral BUT one is dynamic and the other planar. Or the hd650.
@jeremyluke2076
@jeremyluke2076 4 года назад
I purchased these from Amazon recently. I guess they are my first "real headphones" They do sound good to me but I just can't get over the lack of bass impact. If I were to return them and buy LCD-2Cs would they provide the bass impact or do I have to go with dynamics? If a dynamic what would be recommended for under $1K that will give me good sound and some bass impact?
@jeremyluke2076
@jeremyluke2076 4 года назад
@Au12 I bought the Argons. They're awesome.
@imbhulu
@imbhulu 5 месяцев назад
They are on my wall too, along with the Audio Technica M40X, the only couple of headphones I have :)
@BunnyslippersEUC
@BunnyslippersEUC 4 года назад
Ok. I love the sound of the Sundara...for 350euro. I was considering buying it. But than the Stax L500 dropped to 500euro. So I bought the L500.
@BunnyslippersEUC
@BunnyslippersEUC 3 года назад
@Mushroomstamp What do you mean?
@charlesnr
@charlesnr 4 года назад
At AXPONA HIFIman special was $280. Cable cloth covered. $80 for longer cable. Deep in booklet, they recommend 100 hr breakin. Replaced the 400S still working fine. Balanced sound almost obsoletes regular drivers at this price point.
@EUK007
@EUK007 4 года назад
Hi Z, I'm looking for a headphone with $500 budget and im torn between Sennheiser HD660S and Sundara. Which one would you recommend? or any headphone that you recommend for $500? I listen to Classics, Instrumental, Oldies, Jazz and Rock music.
@ee1yd
@ee1yd 4 года назад
id go with the sundara
@kenabi
@kenabi 4 года назад
i'm sorry if rtj doesn't have that proper 808 wobble, fuck the headphones that can't do it. note: that doesn't mean murderbass. it just has to be able to produce it faithfully.
@yasserouacha6299
@yasserouacha6299 3 года назад
Please can you tell me which amp is better suited for Sundara : Topping a50/a50s or schiit heresy. Thank you.
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 4 года назад
I've been waiting for the Focal Stellia review because I have them on the way to me for a week but I also am getting the Sundara's to review so this was a timely review. The way Zeos described them is kind of how I expect them to be. But I am surprised just how much he liked them . Unfortunately I am looking for a modern day replacement for the HE-500 and as good as the Sundara's are I'm not sure they will fit the bill. but still can't wait to hear them .
@HtS643KyS6555GxQ3edA
@HtS643KyS6555GxQ3edA 4 года назад
Every time I watch this I get tempted to go to amazon and order this
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 4 года назад
How does the x2 compare with them?
@jonatinoo
@jonatinoo 4 года назад
You said the Audeze LCD X's were perfect ;)
@JD-dc1eb
@JD-dc1eb 4 года назад
Yes we'll you can get several sundaras for one LCD X
@Tripokaridos22
@Tripokaridos22 4 года назад
Sundaras the only headphone in the world with expire date on the box :)
@michaelfeher
@michaelfeher 4 года назад
I love my hifiman he 560 my only complaint about them is the plastic yolk.
@tigonridge
@tigonridge 4 года назад
I sold mine 2 years ago. The HE 560 is honestly a disappointment, and the hype around it has been more a placebo than what is actually based on reality. I A/Bed it over and over with the humble mid-end HD600 and ATH-AD1000x, and felt no reason whatsoever to keep the 560. For the price at that time ($700), it was absolutely crud. Really comfortable, however. The HE-400 (discontinued) honestly is superior sonically to the HE-560. My Stax L300 beats them all handily, except in the subbass department.
@jownbey
@jownbey 4 года назад
Also Zeos, how can you not compare em to the ananda? Or basically what cans are a real upgrade from the sundara?
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 года назад
Haven't heard the Ananda except for a few seconds at RMAF last year.
@jownbey
@jownbey 4 года назад
Z Reviews my bad, i was thinking of josh valor’s review of em
@jownbey
@jownbey 4 года назад
jkteddy77 thank you, first real answer to that question ive gotten
@even1313
@even1313 4 года назад
This is kind of an old video but what are the purple headphone cables he's using? I've been looking for something like that.
@VuffyPulva
@VuffyPulva 4 года назад
Oh snap, I see the Marantz HD-DAC1! Even though I moved on from that to my TA-ZH1ES, I still have a lot of love for it. I'm curious to hear what you think of it. On topic, I'm sorta interested in getting a pair of Sundaras, I just have my doubts that they'd be as good as the HE-500s. The HE-500s have been such a hard act to follow for me, even the HD800 don't quite measure up.
@iridescentgherkin
@iridescentgherkin 4 года назад
Same for me. Especially after adding a few mods to the HE-500, everything else is underwhelming. Then recently one of my drivers developed a 5dB imbalance, and Hifiman offered an 'upgrade' of the Sundara if I traded my old HE-500 in and paid the 'difference'... I didn't take their offer, I kept the HE-500 and built a resistor adapter for it instead, and never looked back. Sundara seems to be more like 'the best HE-400 mod ever'? But I've never seen a photo of the Sundara driver... curious to see if it's DNA is closer to the fivehundred series or the fourhundreds.... so that's just speculation based on measurement graphs and my experience modding an HE-400.
@HungryCheff
@HungryCheff 4 года назад
The sundaras sound completely different, i would personally pick the he500 over the sundara.
@HungryCheff
@HungryCheff 4 года назад
The he500 was the first headphone i owned and i really liked em' the headphone i like most as a sorta step up is the verum 1
@iridescentgherkin
@iridescentgherkin 4 года назад
@@HungryCheff Step up in which way? Because it's certainly not in build quality ... and compared to Hifiman, that's saying something! XD ... but seriously, I've read a lot of bad things about Verum 1's having driver failure problems. Also, frequency response doesn't read better either.... never heard one, but I'm still totally sceptical about that one from the graphs and comparisons I've read elsewhere (SBAF etc).
@PinkyPowers
@PinkyPowers 4 года назад
Natural... that's just the word I used in my own review. They sound natural. Effortless, open, and natural. Like you, Zeos, I have a lot of headphones. Being a reviewer will do that to you. Sundara is currently my most-listened to. Not because it is my best headphone. That would be the Audeze LCD-3. But I don't listen to my best headphone 95% of the time. I save that for special sessions. The HD6XX was my everyday headphone. You know, the cans you grab when you play a game, or watch RU-vid, etc... now it is Sundara. Yes, I would like them to have more bass, like the HD6XX. But they sound so right, and beat the Sennheiser in every other way. They've just become indispensable to me. PS. The HD800 proves that bass and soundstage are not a necessary association. ;)
@jonpatchmodular
@jonpatchmodular 2 года назад
where do you get unmastered versions of music?? I'm very frustrated that all Iron Maiden stuff I like is destroyed for the 2015 iTunes releases, but I can't find anything else...
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard 3 года назад
Care to weigh in on comparing these HiFiMan Sundara with the Audio Technica ATH-R70x, and/or with the Massdrop HD 6XX headphones?
@sahajsb2728
@sahajsb2728 3 месяца назад
Sundara with balanced cables, k7 pro, and eq means phat accurate bass
@CHMcGill
@CHMcGill 4 года назад
Zeos would you recommend these or the Verum Ones? Thanks
@deriqdavid9843
@deriqdavid9843 4 года назад
Hey Zeos, sorry if this is the type of question, but in your opinion which do you think is the more "worthwhile" headphone, the Sundaras or the HD600? Thank you so much
@careylymanjones
@careylymanjones 2 года назад
Add about 3 to 4 db of eq from 50hz down to 20 hz. If that doesn't give you enough bass with the Sundaras, you probably should just get some Beats. Ifi makes a Zen Can Signature series for Hifiman phones with a button to activate an eq curve tailored to Hifiman phones in general, and the Sundara, in particular.
@peterotremba8980
@peterotremba8980 3 года назад
Right when you said the headphones sound “natural” that’s when I am sold on the headphones.
@ujean56
@ujean56 4 года назад
Beware! After owning a pair of these for 15 months (1 year, 3 months) the right channel began distorting and then died completely, This was not a cable problem. For the first 12 months I was not able to register these headphones on the Hifiman website due to endless errors in page scripts. Despite errors on their side of registration, they refused to extend the warranty and are asking $180.00 as a replacement and want the money up front before even providing the details of how replacement will happen. Otherwise, nice headphones - if they worked.
@Sephir89
@Sephir89 4 года назад
Probably Zeos was very lucky, or, knowing who he is, Hifiman choose wisely the only Sundara who actually work.
@Iridescence93
@Iridescence93 4 года назад
Are these (used) worth $100 more than the Takstar HF 580 and if I don't mind taking the foam out are the Thieaudio better sounding than these? Bass doesn't matter to me, I'm more about accuracy.
@Wizbrokun
@Wizbrokun 4 года назад
Thanks Zeos, you sold me on these. Also, Hestia bestia. Digging all the anime stuff you got in your room.
@luiscardenas2924
@luiscardenas2924 3 года назад
If I plugged these in to my Xbox controller will they work if not how can I get them to work is there a work around??
@saganaWidow
@saganaWidow 4 года назад
I’m searching for an upgrading for my fidelio x2 since after many years of work they are breaking up. I was interested in the sundara because by description they seems to have a similar sound signature. Would they be a good choice considering that I value soundstage, speed and I don’t mind a slight v shape? Consider that my budget is 450$, I generally don’t like the senheiser should signature and that I’ve a decent fiio dac/amp combo?
@saganaWidow
@saganaWidow 4 года назад
P.s.: for those who can be interested, in the end I bought the lcd2c as an upgrade, compared to the x2 the sound is much cleaner, the base is outstanding, the midrange is really nice and the treble I would say it’s very similar to the x2. If you love the base it’s a great upgrade, but if you love the x2 soundstage you may be disappointed in the absence of it in the lcdc2 that compensate it with a much cleaner imaging.
@theknee5590
@theknee5590 3 года назад
Do these mean anything to me if I have M1060s and like them?
@sierre00
@sierre00 4 года назад
For around $350 or more or less, I have hd6xx, x2, ad1000x, m1060, a2000z, he560, so far, this is the best
@midoriwind276
@midoriwind276 4 года назад
Does a2000z have better imaging than m1060 for you?
@bashendriks4211
@bashendriks4211 3 года назад
They personally lack a bit of low end for me, so I eq these with a +6db bump around 60-70hz.
@jwest88
@jwest88 3 года назад
I was hoping Zeos had an Ananda review. I'm on the fence on buying those(currently own the Sundara). Been playing the review watching/reading game to decide(just spent a bunch on a smsl su 9 and monoprice 887, so am trying to reign in the spending....).
@sethagastya
@sethagastya 3 года назад
Zeos: “Are these going to make these on my wall?” Advanced Alphas: *sweating nervously*
@jownbey
@jownbey 4 года назад
My sundaras the bass really depends on the song. A lot of hip hop bass doesnt boom much. Throw on some modal soul (we all make mistakes the song i think it was) and oh dear god its perfect. Perfect wub wub cans and classical
@FlorentDorinMusic
@FlorentDorinMusic 3 года назад
Hi! You guys might help me here. I bought the Sundarars and a Ifi Zen dac. I wanted to plug my headphones to the balanced output so I bought an extra 3.5mm female to 4.4mm male jack adaptater. The problem is that it got worse, so much worse... there was a buzz sound and the music got all messed up. Si I send back my adaptater thinking it had an issue... So my question is : is the Sundara stock cable balanced ? Do I just have to get a working 3.5mm to 4.4mm adaptater to use the Ifi zen dac balanced output? Thanks. Hope someone find this message
@georgebogdangrigore3882
@georgebogdangrigore3882 3 года назад
Hi!The stock cable its not balanced,u need balanced cables that end in 4,4mm and an adapter 4,4 mm to 6,3 mm or xlr or 3,5 whatever u need if u want to play them unbalanced if u have different amplifiers!Sorry for my bad english!
@MicheIangelo
@MicheIangelo 4 года назад
Plot twist: He found the perfect headphone 784 days ago and have been lying ever since.
@adrianmorrish8494
@adrianmorrish8494 3 года назад
Problem is he dosent remember what they were 😂
@buddystewart2020
@buddystewart2020 3 года назад
I just got a pair of Sundara, had them about a week now. I think they sound great. Plenty of bass for me, and I'm a bass player. The only thing I don't like is the cable. The cable it crap. I ordered a new pair of cables yesterday.
@R4NG3R2012
@R4NG3R2012 4 года назад
My Bass People! 13:55 is what you are looking for. You're Welcome my friends
@JioFreedOfOphan
@JioFreedOfOphan 4 года назад
It's nice that you reference the M1060 C's when comparing other planar magnetic headphones but it would also be nice to hear more comparisons made in reference to the Audeze LCD-X (which I know you love and it's been forever but I'm a peasant and I want solid advice before I pull the trigger)
@sondkcla
@sondkcla 4 года назад
If you had to get one pair of headphones, which would you get? (Value in mind as well) 1.Fidelio X2HR 2. HD 6XX 3. Sundara. GO!
@albertomorales9628
@albertomorales9628 4 года назад
Help me, to decide, for my first planars, this one's Hifiman Sundara or Verum 1, the same price 350 usd. I would like to pick up the right ones, I don't like the bass head style on a headphones, I arready have at my work office atm50x and the koss porta pro for street. And the planars I would like it to use at home.
@enuazeal
@enuazeal 3 года назад
how about 2020 version? :)
@Armbrust210
@Armbrust210 2 года назад
Gotta say, from my experience with the Sundaras, i think the most important part of this Video is his comment on grainyness. The Sundara just isn't. And that's what sets it apart.
@godface81
@godface81 2 года назад
Love ur reviews Z. I recently got 6xx and sundaras, The 6xx mids are good but standard kill them imo. The build quality on the 6xx is disturbing I had to buy new pads and cable. I did spend 25 bucks on a cable for sundaras well worth it fabric cable. I'm a musician 🎸 and the sundaras sound much closer to my hedd MK2 speakers then the 6xx, I wouldn't want to wear the 6xx for more then an hour or two. I also own the Beyer 880s, I would buy sundaras again. Openbox 300$ worth it imho. Thanks for ur vids
@Sorin_F
@Sorin_F 3 года назад
Hi! Could you compare sundara with akg 712 pro that also you liked some time ago? Tx!
@nicodimus2222
@nicodimus2222 3 года назад
I noticed one time that you sound a lot like Mr. Plinkett from RedLetterMedia, and now I can't unhear it. I love thinking that he's reviewing all this audio gear between those sessions of tearing apart bad movies.
@GarikDuvall
@GarikDuvall 4 года назад
What cables are you using in this vid or currently recommend for connecting to HE4XX/Sundara & Atom? (btw Hestia is bae)
@maxbatzi3883
@maxbatzi3883 4 года назад
do you know what typ of connector he is using at 2.00 ? I have never seen those bevore
@IAmSippycup
@IAmSippycup 3 года назад
Can anybody clarify for me? The ear pads don't look easily replaceable. Last cans I had with a pleather ear cup started flaking apart after a couple years and it really sucked because the manufacturer doesn't sell the pads separately.
@crokinoledk
@crokinoledk 3 года назад
Hello Mate, Thank you for your review. Always enjoy. I’m on the fence right now between them and Sonorus VI, which you also admire. I’m looking for decent neutral, reliable cams. Purpose: mixing, and music production. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance. All the best, Elwis
@theinfinate
@theinfinate 4 года назад
This guy I'm sure is Jack Black, he says he's 1/4 Polish in this video of which Jack Black has said in an interview that he is 1/4 polish. His mannerism's are uncannily like Jacks
@NuwandaSM
@NuwandaSM 4 года назад
This definitely is Jack Black!
@joaopedroaguiarfmatos1473
@joaopedroaguiarfmatos1473 4 года назад
hes 100% jack black
@TechnoGuy11
@TechnoGuy11 4 года назад
I've been thinking about getting a pair of these for a while and finally pulled the trigger. Headamp had them open box for $299 and thought that was a good deal so I had to get them. No more headphones for me, well for at least a few months. 😉
@Snake20
@Snake20 4 года назад
Do you like them? I'm thinking of getting them. Would be my first planars.
@TechnoGuy11
@TechnoGuy11 4 года назад
They are really good for the price, I like about as much as my Aiva and LCD-2C.
@henrymarocchi7844
@henrymarocchi7844 4 года назад
@@TechnoGuy11 I'm saving for these to upgrade from my Sennheiser hd599. These should be a decent step up.
@TechnoGuy11
@TechnoGuy11 4 года назад
@@henrymarocchi7844 they'll be quite a bit better than the HD599. One thing is the ear cups don't swivel so the fit can be annoying at first but over time it gets better.
@henrymarocchi7844
@henrymarocchi7844 4 года назад
@@TechnoGuy11 that's great and I can't wait hopefully I'll score them in a month or two.
@nathanowen2426
@nathanowen2426 4 года назад
Aye these can be played with my iPhone right. Cause I don’t think my parents will buy me a 2 thousand dollar amp. Also would it be worth the 350 upgrade from my sony MDR-XB950N1. I’m new the game so I don’t have much to compare to.
@misterpep-aae3422
@misterpep-aae3422 4 года назад
yeah bro, tell your parents these come with a (balanced) lightning connection for your perfect for your apple iphone just tell them someone on the internet told you they were worth 350 dollars
@TechnoGuy11
@TechnoGuy11 4 года назад
I don't know if it's just because I'm use to them or what but I don't find the Aiva's to be violent or overly bright sounding at all anymore. I never liked bright headphones until the Aiva and now I can say that they're my favorite headphone I've ever had and I've had a few good ones, hell I still have the LCD-2C and HP-3 and I love both but they're just a step behind my beloved Aiva's. Anyway, about the Sundara, I think I might get a pair for shits and giggles.
@THK142
@THK142 4 года назад
These or the Beyerdynamic Dt 1990?
@muymuy8102
@muymuy8102 4 года назад
1990 and if you dont like them dm me well trade i have the sundaras
@Rayman30
@Rayman30 4 года назад
Skip the DT1990, get the Kahn Modded DT990, otherwise its treble murder.
@THK142
@THK142 4 года назад
@@Rayman30 interesting.
@lennardgalander5729
@lennardgalander5729 4 года назад
I significantly preferred the DT 1990 over the Sundaras especially with A pads. Siblance can we be an issue with them but it's easily fixed with eq. Also Quality control is a big issue with Hifiman.
@THK142
@THK142 4 года назад
@@lennardgalander5729 Yeah the build on the Beyers looks beastly and EQ seems like a nice fix. I have some months to consider before making the plunge. Thanks for your thougts.
@turbomustang84
@turbomustang84 4 года назад
When it comes to Dac's and Headphone Amplifiers you can absolutely trust Zeos opinion if you throw out his ridiculous anti Blue LED obsession..... But I know his opinion of how a headphone should sound is so far away from what I find enjoyable that I watch the videos while paying no attention to his opinion .... But lately the Stellia's, Sundara's and several IEMs my opinion is almost the same so now I'm worried....am I going deaf ?
@TheNeilo-Audiosound
@TheNeilo-Audiosound 4 года назад
Guys anyone know what format Zeos uses as his Music Player on his PC? I think both Zeos and Joshua Valour Use the Same Player. I’m just sure there’s better than VLC player which I use. As for the Sundara Cans they look great and I have the HE4XX but I wonder if they are that much better than the HE4XX.
@Enceladus335
@Enceladus335 3 года назад
Will these work with an dac on smartphones?
@codykeegan1848
@codykeegan1848 3 года назад
Yes but won't be very loud at all.. u need an amp to make it worth it
@MrMeoow91
@MrMeoow91 4 года назад
HE-500 was my 1st and still my favourite Planar. I got the LCD-2 later on but I keep going back to the HE-500. I want Hifiman to make another HE-500 in the future.
@SaveTheHero210
@SaveTheHero210 4 года назад
Like the 500se?
@Steadybeheady
@Steadybeheady 4 года назад
Looking to upgrade to the Arya from the Sundara, I've read some comparisons but anyone here who's heard both want to chime in?
@winddancer77
@winddancer77 4 года назад
You sound like Kenny from Kenny and Spenny! ;) Apart from that thanks for the awesome review!
@theinfinate
@theinfinate 4 года назад
I reckon its Jack Black
@okinawabongrip
@okinawabongrip 12 дней назад
No he doesn’t? Lol
@disco.jellyfish
@disco.jellyfish 3 года назад
Where did you get these exact cables? I only find some either with only one ring on the ends, which plug into the drivers or 2.5mm ones. But the Sundara needs 3.5mm ones.
@Jt19702
@Jt19702 3 года назад
Z, I have access to New in box HD600 with the Old Oval shape and blue pattern for $330 or should I go with Sundaras?
@PizzaOMC
@PizzaOMC 4 года назад
are you going to do a review of a wireless headphone like the gsp670 or the Arctis pro wireless? would be cool to see if the "gaming" headphones have improved. I currently got dt1990 but looking for something wireless as it just feels soo good to not have a wire and just walk about but dont know what to go for.
@fixxxer4234
@fixxxer4234 3 года назад
please advice for amp/dac combo for my future Sundara. I currently got k712pro + shiit magni 3+. Do you think its a proper upgrade?
@shark471
@shark471 4 года назад
Oi, Zeos. With a slight modification the Yoke from the Phantom can fit into the headband of the Sundara. Makes it a bit tighter on the clamp but more comfortable IMO.
@jaredferguson2999
@jaredferguson2999 3 года назад
How
@geoffsager
@geoffsager 2 года назад
What about, sundaras through an ifi zendac, with bass boost? Just askin'.
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