@@Louis.7493 It is a downside for having 100% discounts for items on shelf but it is what it is I suppose haha, everything has it's upsides and downsides
Low honor is good if you just want to be a outlaw that kills everything in its path, but high honor is probably one of the best character development in the story
Honor is such a funny thing in red dead. I can kill 100 men in a mission, all of whom I have no quarrel, but one man calls me a sissyboy and I lose honor for putting holes in him, but that same honor I lost for murder, can be regained by saying hello to townsfolk.
Someone have same issue like me. He telling every shitest word you can imagine, fire a gun to me, almost kill me and after all of this if i kill her mu honor get down cuz of i kill her.
I saved a woman that was going to be SA'd by two criminals and then found a woman being kidnapped and saved her then escorted her to town. only to lose all of that honor bc I was too slow to execute a dying buck.
The difference in honor between the two red dead’s is crazy. In the first one you could go full honor by doing a couple good deeds. In rdr2 it takes hours and hours of greeting and helping people
@@DylanFromAusnot really low honor and high honor has the same realism high honor is someone who regrets who he was in the past and the other one regrets nothing
@@Kira_YoshikageWithHands I can’t believe i’m arguing with a kid rn. Look little buddy High honour is more realistic when arthur is slowly dying okay😀 Besides that the game should be played with low honour
The one part I liked most with low honour was the train station talk with the gangs priest. The way he says Arthur has been a bad Man indeed, but a fighter trough and trough. And then Arthur sees It in that new way that gives him a go shootin straight to hell purpouse. Thats one of the Best rationalization of an Evil character that ive ever seen
I think I like the ending if you save John with low honor because it makes since for an Outlaw to not really die peacefully but to get shot like an animal but before that at least doing something good before you die that’s all that matters in the end I dunno maybe it’s just me
I think the story is even better if you start out evil and then as Arthur starts dying you switch to good honor so that he's trying to make up for his actions.
You get a free item in the store if you save the snake bite strangers (I've saved 2 doing that) that's how I get the pump action shotty and the Carcano cuz they're so damn expensive.
The fact that the grip you get for high honor is on the Cattleman whilst the one for low honor is for the double action really shows you what route the devs want you to follow in your playthrough
@@mastermace7770 I disagree, the premise in my pov is that Arthur is a good man within the range of outlaws, He's on the edge of good and bad, an anti hero to sum it up. We see he has a moral code and doesn't just kill, rob/steal etc for fun and randomly, that's why there's an honor system. even to the contrary like dutch said, shoot those who need shooting, save those who need saving his moral code is more shown when he's diagnosed and he becomes more who he always was
You unlock both regardless of what honour you are Just have to reach level 4 high or low honour which means you can't obtain the grips until at least chapter 6 due to the honour cap
@@BjerkeYTit’s weird that other people play like this - I’m playing for the first time and had full honour as Arthur but then became a psycho playing as John
@@BjerkeYT I think part of it is also since the John part is the very end of the game, you’re fine having low honour for a few hours of gameplay, whereas with Arthur, you don’t want to mess up your playthrough
nah low honour makes the game easier to play, you have more freedom and you get to do what you want, but high honour requires some sacrificing things like money and time
Arthur's fitting honor level in my opinion is high honor cuz first off, we all know how he is in the storyline of the game, secondly it kinda goes hard if U wanna play lore accurate cuz then it's like Arthur being high honor, ditch being medium, and ratass being a bitch.
Every play through I play like a s**mbag until before the last mission where I spend 2-3 hours greeting people to gain full honour. Every play through is the same because being nice in game is hard
On my first play-through I reached max low honor pretty quickly from committing random crimes, robbing, looting. Around the halfway point in the story I started doing nothing but honorable things, so I reached max high honor and had both grips on my guns. I went back down after that but by the end of Arthur's story I was max honor again. I didn't even know it was a reward. Now for the first time in a while I'm replaying the game on my Steamdeck, taking my time, it's the only thing getting me through everything going on in my life.
That's the way I feel it was meant to be played. The series is literally named after redemption. If he's a good guy from the start or an asshole the whole time, nothing changes. Nothing is redeemed
@@dudemanhomieguy8358 even high honour Arthur still does awful things. Him showing kindness and mercy from time to time at the that start doesn't detract from realising he's done terrible things in the last third. High honour Arthur is still a murderer who is complicit in leaving a trail of destruction. The only one that strains against the games narrative is continuing to be low honour at the end of the time.
@Ryan30z That's a good point. I was only really considering the choices you can make when I had that thought, but it does make more sense to include the non-choice stuff, too. It may not necessarily be the player choosing it, but it's still Arthur doing it.
@@tyrese109 if you keep Arthur high honor the whole time, it’s still a redemption story, but trying to keep his honor accurate to the chapter, it can really make you feel like you are one with the character, and I think that makes it so much more impactful and cinematic. Idk, just something I do from playthrough to playthrough
I had high honor as Arthur and got the hero pearl grip revolver, then i went for low honor as Jhon to get the ebony gun. Now im rocking them both like devil on one shoulder and angel on the other😅
You unlock both of those grips by hitting max honor. I think the ebony being unlocked at Max is a bug since it's suppose to be a low honor grip. No need to min-max honor for these grips.
I had to play multiple times, once for high honor, once for low honor then replaying the choice at the end with both low & high honor. So much detail in this game and they’re totally different experiences with low or high honor.
Lol tell that to all the Arthur’s that have a few hundred thousand dollars of Wild West money m. A trip to the general store nets maxed out items for a while lol then you go out and rob some more XD made about 100k on my save for low honor just going around roving coaches and looting everything in sight with a black x 😊
Yeah dude I fucking hate the prices. I do like the idea that you could just sell and sell the items you loot when you're a ruthless outlaw but all of that is pointless when the prices cost half a goddamn arm all the time.
High Honor: really nice looking grip for a decent revolver, 50% reduced prices, best (and canon) ending, interesting dialogue engagements. Low Honor: badass grip for the worst revolver, slightly higher chance to loot jewelry and tonics from bodies, bad ending, really basic dialogue, bounty hunters constantly on your ass, recognized by law everywhere.
@@shinyhunterCF everyone who plays the game robs people lmao. it's literally part of the story. if you really gotta terrorise people thats your thing, but some of us would rather have our characters actually develop as people throughout the game.
@@kshaa6648 Nuh-uh. I already finished the game months ago. All I just did is use something called Built In Cheat Codes to get perm high honor, too easy😼
a little tip for new players, catching fish whilst fishing and then throwing them back is super fast for getting honour. you level up a full point on the bar every 3-4 fish and the fish take 5-10 seconds each to catch
Low honor increases the time it takes for police to arrive. It seems very significant to me too, as with high honor the police respond immediately and haul ass to the crime, but with low honor the police take their sweet time. Also, High honor increases your chance of looting Jewelry! Low honor has less of a chance to loot jewelry. But yes, low honor has more of a chance to loot tonics and throwing weapons.
I like playing low honor before hes sick and then turn him around as he gets sick. Make it feel like hes turning his life around n making up for his wrong doings
I'm low honour until around chapter 5, it's just way more fun to keep murdering people and doing whatever you want. High honour seems too goodie tooshoes and all it takes is one accidental vehorsecular manslaughter and you will spiral your way down to low honour. But either way I used Calloways revolver ASAP so I can't really customise.
Try saying that again after robbing a train and its passengers, then leaving no witnesses and looting their bodies. Arthur sure is not a good guy, but a man battling his own angels and demons.
I want to get low and then regain it to high, then head to neutral because I feel like having one pistol with the evil and one with the hero grip would be absolutely awesome
just now playing for the first time, and I've got the Ebony Dueling grip while my honor is around half way on the positive side... not sure about the other grip though, as i haven't looked to upgrade the Cattleman Revolver
I've always been high honor. The discount is the best perk, because I feel a lot of items are price-gouged for the time period. But I didn't know about that grip for the Cattleman 🙁
I always go low honor until the actual redemption arc starts. Arthur was written to be a criminal, and a snarky, sometimes genuinely evil one. He's a good man at heart but in action he's still a bad person, tuberculosis just gave him that chance to reflect
In my opinion it’s best to play the first time with as high honor you can, bc the story of 👌 🔥. And then go crazy when you run it back (with more experience)
How to play rdr2 honor system correct: at first be a badass with low honor killing everything in his path not giving a rats a##, when you reach the point where Arthur gets checked up by a doctor a knows he is gonna die, redeem yourself by gaining more honor,
Its pretty clear that the dev's encourage you to have high honor, seeing how you get so many more benefits with high honor. I think the high honor ending is also cannon.
Interesting how low honor is the double acton, maybe because single action takes more dicipline to use efficiently. So more ruthless and sneaky people would choose a double action revolver rather than the single action, its harder to shoot a man in the back if they can hear the hammer pull.