High & Dry: How UK Fishermen Were Sold Out by Brexit 

That's the case with a lot of the anger from a lot of Brexiteers, it's misplaced on the EU where now with Brexit, they are going to get a reality check on where the real problem and it's a lot closer to home and the Tories are a big part of the problem, after all, for the last 10 or 15 years, they've done massive cuts across the board in the UK which has impacted a lot of people in a negative way, especially the poor and middle classes. Still I think it's going to take about a decade or so for the British people to really wake up to the damage the Tories have done on the UK and British people. In the end, the fishing industry just like the food industry voted for Brexit based on lies and faults promises on what they wanted to happen and not what would happen, they got sold out but in truth, they sold themselves out by falling for those lies, lies that remainders constantly told them about but they didn't want to listen, kept saying project fear and now they are paying the price and rightly so because it's because of these groups of people why the UK is in such a mess and not just on Brexit, but on the pandemic and on voting in the Tories the last decade or so.

Neil (Fisherman): "It needs somebody to take the bull by the horns and actually do something about it". Here's an idea - how about a pan-national entity with real (economic) clout on the world stage, developing a policy to outlaw destructive fishing practices and the resources required to enforce it - can you think of anything like that - I can; it's called the European Union - oh I forgot; UK fisherman voted to Leave and reclaim their "sovereignty" - how's that plan worked out for you?

@@peterdavidson3268 Exactly this, the EU gets a lot of stick from some but they have sound policies in many areas that benefit the people of the EU, too bad the Brexiteers couldn't see past thier hate.

@@paul1979uk2000 As a remainer i've got to say that's very very well said.

Sorry, so where are these mega trawlers coming from? EU countries and beyond surely?

Certainly the way I voted! Brexit promised bountiful gains, you could see that nonsense a mile off and i could see the issues we'd have from 2016 onwards a mile off.

Irony being "remain" was the true patriotic decision

Patriotism means wanting the best for your country and your fellow countrymen. Selfishness is wanting what will give you the most and to hell with others. STUPIDITY was voting for brexit.

You ohhhh. So correct , what is wrong with. Fishermen , they got Brexit done , got there sovereignty, two out of three ain’t bad? There winners ,,,,

Problem is they didn’t. The feckless lying government did this. Get Patel and her lying crew to send the navy to protect our fish, in fact give her the ultimatum, better still hire some of Somali migrants to board the fly fisherman’s boat and pirate them.

@@alexsmith358 Democratic countries arguably get the government they deserve. So there is that.

Well, to be fair, the fishermen didn't get what they wanted, but they sure as hell got what they voted for, and were warned for, time and time again.

This is not just about Brexshit. The man said 'the French and Dutch are not happy as well'. These unstainable industrial fishing practices are carried out by subsidiaries of large food corporations like Kraft and Unilever or are owned by banks and insurance companies, who bought up boats for their quotas, scraped the boats and use the quotas together. The EU may well be able, by collective action, to exclude these practices from their member states waters. But the UK is on it's own and having used the fishing folks to 'get Brexshit done' they can expect no help from the junta in London.

@@Buckets1000 Exactly: A looong proven history as a liar but these people chose to believe him over all the experts.

The way to tackle such things is at the EU level. We cannot do this any more because UK gave up its sovereignty in such matters.

I'd say Boris's or are you suggesting that the fault lies always with the deceived and never with the deceiver ? That's a grim point of view for anyone who's been conned knowing it's never the fault of the conman or for the married woman whose husband said he wasn't cheating when he was . Her fault for believing him. Pretty harsh way of chopping up blame Hannah if I do say so.

Then why did all the companies get fined the other day if they allow it.

Maybe have some sort of commission, call it the fisheries commission and have the UK there - if they choose to go? Oh yeah. We had that.

Good luck selling such a sensible notion to greedy xenophobes.

GREENPEACE, why you delete my post? Dare to explain that to me!! Orrr you don't have the balls?

Quite shocking from a country who call the sea between UK and France, the "English Channel" wheras France just call it "the Channel"

@@chibani- The same country that calls the sea between Britain and Ireland the Irish Sea, and calls the Pas de Calais, the Dover Strait. What's the problem?

And our reply came. They wanted to play power politics with former allies ? We are much stronger than that pathetic pirate island.

Spot on, they were all told, i tried to counter the lies, i was given abuse, i was ridiculed, i was proven correct time and time again....

It's much worse, it's as if a _doctor_ is listening to a politician telling something about the right way of medical treatment and then also believes this nonsense.

@@herosstratos yes. So correct , just take rece hog if he hadn’t been born into money he would have been nothing, but people still listen to him?

Could be that they're morons... I was utterly aghast at where people were getting their influence and information from.

So now they can get their water polluted as they don't have to follow the anti-pollution EU rules.Right ...just secondary 😂😅👍

It's why some people shouldn't be allowed to breed or out...

I agree with you that they voted for it and it was stupid, but the problem is the continuation of the destruction of the fishing industry and the degradation and overfishing of UK waters. This impact the fishermen the most, but it will also affect the UK as a whole. Everyone feels this impact. Basically it’s a giant clusterfuck.

@@Buckets1000 And in other breaking news, water is wet..?

They never deserted us. They were never with us. Like many Brexit related happenings, i'm frankly terrified you as a person can't se e that all these years later.

Yep with short term gains above long term protection of the seas which if they are not careful could do a lot more damage to the fishing industry.

'our sea'?

If you thought that was bad, just look at what's going on in India. "I don't give a damn about Indian fishing waters". Well that was the case with most "Brexit issues" in 2011, 12, 13, 14, 15 and part of 16. It only became a "problem" when politicians told suffocatingly gullible people it was....

He shouldn't have needed to "deliver Brexit" had everyone been 1 Not so gullible 2 Intelligent 3 Made an informed vote, free of bait cabin conversation and pub table nonsense 4 Came to their senses.

They sure as hell don't eat enough to have caused _that._ What happened was the Tories' beloved "market forces" - there was a Europe-wide (and beyond) market for British cod, so as long as there were buyers for them, fish were caught and sold, with entirely predictable (and predicted) results.

Missinformation- It happened in many countries at a level that took everyone by surprise because of social media and the bad people were finding out they can manipulate people this way.

Got it in one. The stupidity and cocksuredness of some. And Brits wonder why some people in other countries we holiday at takes a second glance whenever "la Inglese" rock up.

It only hits the "little people" because instead of realising they were being played by the elite, they got sold a pack of lies and took it hook, line and sinker.

Sadly they were too moronic to realise this eventuality. Kind of makes me terrified they're allowed to be in charge of some very large and very heavy boats.

Been like that for ages. Are you living under a stone, or never cared about ordinary hard working peoples working conditions??

Excellent lesson of essential marketing in a tee cup. 👍👌👏

Don't forget blue passports, hey thats three out of three, must be the wrong song!

Eh?

@@keithreeder a few old ships too snag the net's.

Just built offshore wind farms, that stops fishing in the area

The first thing is to admit they were wrong as voters to go to the polling booths full of a poor understanding and the wrong choices like they did. I've only seen a fraction of fishermen admit they were stupid and regret it. But oh no, not them "they were told lies". They need to recognise they were the ones who believed said "lies". Acceptance is the first step to recovery but not some of the ignoramuses above....

Private entity's and wealthy skippers with EU fishing quotes to fill. Fishing and landing are well regulated, the problem is national economic and political interests weighs more than well documented environmental damages, and future negative impact. The same issues as with our environmental damaging agricultural sector... 😢🙈🙈

What a stupid question !

It's about scale. in the film one man said these huge 'industrial ships' catch in one hour what a normal fishing trawler would catch in a year . This on top if the fact they care nothing for sustainability , they exhaust a supply and move on not doing anything to preserve that environment for fishing in the future. These practices regardless of brexit or if we had stayed in the EU have more or less killed off fishing in areas which one were both plentiful and fished sustainably.

@@HitTheBricks89 Yep. Thats the common lie. Another Brexit delusion. So now you have all the fish in the world but nothing to eat

They blamed the eu so they voted to leave and they are now shocked that it has NOTHING to do with the eu. They’re idiots

You want to be angry at "genuine fishermen". They're the ones who were told time and again by me, that your "issues" lie not with the EU but elsewhere because of this, this and this.... "Well i come from a fishing family and you are a moron, you will find this, this and this, Farage, current MEP said this this and this and you're wrong." Right fine, you'll see. And of course they did SMH. Brexit voting fishermen are "absolutely disgraceful" as they're the ones who voted, got us into this mess and are now seeking to blame anyone but themselves.

The genuine fishermen voted at a rate of 93% for Brexit, they sure got what they wanted, congratulations guys. No need to pity a winner!

@@getupstairstobed To be honest with you, I agree with you. It was like turkeys voting for Christmas. Still it's sad that people can be so stupid and so easily fooled by lies.

Did you see the huge areas that are marked for Marine conservation , there are massive areas and big schemes for sustainability but just no one to police the waters and to make sure other fishermen abide by them. Our boys have always been pretty good at this as they have always known that they must respect breeding and the fishes environments if they are to live and feed their families the next year , The problem is not being short on ideas it's having a government willing to enforce the protection of our waters and to take seriously the future of fishing as an industry. I remember hearing one MP saying that it was such a tiny industry financially it really isn't worth saving anymore. When you have a government with attitudes like that , there really is little hope.

@@HitTheBricks89 Yes I know, out of all of Europe our fishermen respect the oceans the best. Policing waters are not too difficult with satellite assistance (as proof), after all they do it for farmers. Nonetheless UK governments would never scrap or burn foreign boats like other nations do, they have no guts, and that is the only effective deterrent.

What about all the bush fires? You don’t think they are caused buy the changing climate? Maybe everyone should do what they can to lessen the impact on the climate and not just say “nah, others don’t do anything so why should we?”. I would guess the Ozzie coal industry greases a lot of hand in the government and media?

Sue the anti left winger climate change but your forgot one thing, you are also the worst comment maker in internet. An write, can’t make sentences obviously never heard of punctuation. 🤦‍♂️🤯🤢🤮

Were not feeding 8 billion humans 3 meals a day, thats also a problem.

Ever heard of the Cod Wars? When British vessels were been stopped by the Icelanders from overfishing their waters. Why were we fishing there? answer because we had overfished our own waters and been kicked out of Canadian waters for trying to do the same thing. Oh and the Cod Wars happened before we joined the EEC. In the 1930's and before you used to be able to catch tuna off the Yorkshire coast but we fished them out. Check on RU-vid and you will find videos about the herring girls who used to follow the herring fleets round the coast of Britain on a seasonal basis. That also came to a halt because we fished out our herring stocks, again before we joined the EEC. The fishing industry in the UK was in a mess before we joined the EEC but people blame the EEC and EU because they needed a focal point to point the finger elsewhere. You can try to rewrite history but the reality is this is a problem going way back long before the EEC came along. Do keep up with the news because the people who are driving our economic policy are the leaders of the Leave campaign. Those that sold you a fairy story built on lies that you believed. You do know that there are ordinary working classes throughout the EU who all seem to be doing just fine. These are in countries that had to follow exactly the same rules that we did but their businesses and politicians seem to manage just fine. Maybe just maybe you were pointing the finger at the wrong people all along.

@@stephenhodgson3506 For a start the Cod wars and any thing else that was not done ethically does not make what the fishermen did then and what has been going on since right. The point I am making is that each country has set boundaries and that laws should be applied and followed because it is akin to invasion. Secondly the leaders of the leave campaign were not Brexiteers, they were opportunists and you cannot possibly expect a party, who did not want Brexit, to carry out the wishes of the majority. The party that should have negotiated Brexit should have been either UKIP in it's original form or the Brexit Party. It is not much different to the Labour Party in 1997 claiming to be "No longer the party of Tax!" Leopards do not change their spots and the mainstream parties are now polluted to the hilt by Elitists who will stop at nothing to deny the wishes of ordinary working people who they will never represent. Brexit IS perfectly achievable to anyone that has big enough balls if they desire it!

@@josephhandford6138 It's very interesting that you bring up UKIP. Wasn't the leader of UKIP and one of the driving forces of the Leave campaign one Nigel Farage? The same Nigel Farage you said he was standing up for the fishermen? The same Nigel Farage who was Chairman of the Fisheries commission in Brussels? a position for which he received additional pay and expenses but rarely attended any meetings to actually help the fishermen. The same Nigel Farage who has been silent on the fishermen's plight since we left? The same Nigel Farage along with all his other UKIP EU MP's that now receive a pension from the EU paid for by the UK taxpayers? What you don't seem to realise if that if those UKIP in its original form had been involved in the negotiations to leave the EU there would have been no agreement because the EU would not have given in to their demands. We would left the EU with no agreement and the pound would have crashed and the working men and women you claim to care about would have suffered as the economy crashed into recession.

@@stephenhodgson3506 Absolute twaddle if you bothered to tune in to anything he says you would know he has continually mentioned the raw deal by our own government or maybe you do know like many elitists who censor and look the other way when they don't want other opinions to be heard. And anyone who knows anything about the way the EU operates knows only too well that individual voices in the EU with the way they vote on anything that nothing would have been done had they been to all of the meetings plus the people needed to know and understand that that was indeed the case. It is why many small businesses went under because of the mountains of red tape that helped the big multinationals who could afford the changes. And why shouldn't they receive a pension as they did far more for ordinary working people than the public school boys who have a more than equal education along with their more than equal job choice and more than equal salaries and more than equal oensions compared to the working classes.

@@josephhandford6138 you have clearly been brainwashed by the likes of Farage the well known commodity broker who got his job through his fathers connections. Farage claims he could have done better but the EU went as far as they were going with the deal we got nobody could have done better. But you won't accept that because you have swallowed all the lies you have been told about the EU. From your comments you quite clearly don't have a clue how the EU operates but like somebody who bought into a pyramid selling scheme you will never accept the truth because that would mean admitting you were conned. No doubt you still believe the lies that the EU is about to collapse any day now but it never actually happens and even those right wing parties in EU countries have withdrawn any talk of leaving the EU because they have discovered it costs them votes because the people who live in the EU find that the EU actually benefits them. Over the coming years more and more people in the UK will come to discover that they made a mistake but I doubt you will be one of them.

Do me a favour. Don't go out. Don't breed. Don't do anything that your stupidity will affect. Including log on, take you BS elsewhere.