As part of a days driven game shooting the price of the cartridge is all but irrelevant. The £ difference between steel and lead for a days shooting would be less than a round of beers afterwards
@@K80Ed 32g #4 standard on the pheasant and 34g #3 for duck then? Not sure I’ll be making a full switch this season but will be definitely giving them a try. Great film too- cheers
@@shanebutcher9158 that’s why steel is the main offering. Bismuth is a rare metal so obviously the cost is well up but there is a steel option to cover all bases so you don’t have to use Bismuth unless you want to. Plenty still choose to shoot it despite the cost
Great film, but not one mention on price point.... the reason why people are not migrating to non-lead is simple, PRICE! If Hull Cart. really want to push this new replacement for lead then they need to drop the price to match the lead counterpart (or lower), then they will see a SIGNIFICANT increase in sales.....SIMPLES
They are a business at the end of the day and need to operate at a profit. The £ that goes into the development of these products is incredible, and all has to be factored in. Combined with steel shot shortages and costs of everything going up sadly there is a limit to how cheap they can be. The cartridge bill is the cheapest part of a day out game shooting by a long shot
do the actual wads meet CE EN13432? as just because the material they are made from does is not necessarily the case that the item made from the material will. Also is CE EN13432 an industrial composting standard so how long do the wads take to degrade in the English country side?
I am yet to grasp why the new trend of wildfowl loads (32 34Grm) loads are being used on normal partridge. What is that all about. Do we now have to use large load steel cartridges in this application ? Normally I would use Hull three Crown or Imperial Game. It all seems a bit Macho and mucho??🤔 🤔
It very much depends where you are shooting. Partridge over flat ground I happily shoot with 21g 7.5 through a 20g with no problem (lead) but wouldn’t dream of this on a higher bird shoot. The objective is a clean kill, so higher birds require bigger loads. Steel is less dense than lead so you need proportionally bigger shot to hold the required energy, and with bigger shot sizes you will need a higher grammage to keep pattern density. Pick the load for the correct application and no problem.
I run a game shoot. These wads mimic plastic wads in appearance and do not look good on the ground or present a good impression of shooting irrespective of them being biodegradable. I will ask people not to use them on my shoot.
