High Speed Sync vs Neutral Density Filters

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In this video I explain the difference between using high speed sync (HSS) and neutral density filters to underexpose the background of a portrait shot with strobes.
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@dianopachote7715 Год назад

Thanks for the breakdown Matt! Appreciate you detailing the process!

@MattHernandez Год назад

Any time!

@BruiserFL 8 месяцев назад

Thanks Matt! I always enjoy your videos.

@MattHernandez 7 месяцев назад

Glad you like them!

@charlieabrahams00 Год назад

Nice. As you know I’ve asked about this ever since that Sports workshop in Denver about 5 years ago! Great video!

@MattHernandez Год назад

Haha yep you sure have. Did it help?

@ClarkSandersPhotography Год назад

Awesome video once again Matt!

@MattHernandez Год назад

Thanks brother!

@csharpimages Год назад

Thank you for all of the videos

@MattHernandez Год назад

You’re welcome!

@3phatboy2 10 месяцев назад

Next time you Shld talk specs and all of that without the subject behind you lol..

@amandabritney8849 4 месяца назад

I agree, honestly this video could last 4 minutes, he rambles a lot...

@christinehungler6 Год назад

Really helpful!

@MattHernandez Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@MartinV. 8 месяцев назад

Great Video

@MattHernandez 7 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@Jasonz990 2 дня назад

Hey what light stands do you use!? Thanks!

@darrinmeier4125 4 дня назад

Question. I understand that you expose the background the way you want. Dark. Approx 1 or 2 stops darker. Then you bring in the light. But how are you determining the output of that flash. Its power output to obtain a proper exposure. It looks like you just eyeball it. That is not reliable for me. Ill view it thru my sony electronic viewfinder or the screen but its hard to know for sure. Id like to meter that flash to know for sure but how are you able to determine the flash output?

@greggeis918 Год назад

I never considered that side of HSS. So if I keep flash power the same and am shooting F5.6 1/2000, then change to F/8 1/1000 the HSS will be more efficient and have a higher output at 1/1000?

@MattHernandez Год назад

Yes it should! If 1000 will get it done and your f stop is ok then I’d say go for that over a higher SS.

@thecirclemadeeverything 8 месяцев назад

I'm just starting out with the ND filter. Is a 1-5 stop enough for portraits and a strobe? Indoors it seems like it. Thanks for your videos.

@MattHernandez 7 месяцев назад

Yes, absolutely

@thecirclemadeeverything 7 месяцев назад

@@MattHernandez thank you so much for your response! I've used it to take some team and individual photos as a volunteer at the high school. Came out great. I appreciate your videos tremendously!

@toddstrong1353 Год назад

Not related to the subject but, I noticed you switched from Nikon to Sony. When and why? Just curious. Now, related to the video, there are ND filters that fit over the sensor that do not affect the cameras ability to focus. Before all of the HSS lights came out, I shot with PCB Einsteins and an ND filter. However, my D810 had a hard time focusing depending on the situation. I haven't tried the over the sensor filter yet but there are a couple of YT vids talking about them. Have you had any experience with those?

@MattHernandez Год назад

I explained it all on my old podcast. Here’s the episode link! podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/framed-up/id1564018947?i=1000524511694

@MattHernandez Год назад

The d800 and 810 weren’t exactly strong with AF so I’m not shocked to hear that. I don’t experience any problems now with Sony. When you get darker, like maybe a 6 stop, it might effect it some but not much if you’re in appropriate conditions.

@toddstrong1353 Год назад

@@MattHernandez have you ever tested the over the sensor ND filters? I listened to the podcast but didn’t hear any discussion of them.

@DESIGNS-vo1mt Год назад

great suff!

@MattHernandez Год назад

Thank you!

@cbrumley317 Год назад

I'm curious if you can actually freeze action with flash duration instead of HSS. I've heard a flash set to its lowest power is equivalent to a fast shutter. It's something like this possible outdoors?

@MattHernandez Год назад

I actually have a video dedicated to that very subject!

@MattHernandez Год назад

High Speed Sync vs. Flash Duration to Freeze Action ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OjYfKqt_Z0M.html

@cbrumley317 Год назад

@@MattHernandez thank you. I'll check it out! I really enjoy your content. It's helped me a lot

@GregorySeaton Год назад

I had the same thought. can I use a ND to darken a scene to black outdoors and freeze the motion with a flash? The ND is similar to controlling the ambient light when in studio.

@MattHernandez Год назад

@@GregorySeaton if you’re outside you’ll need to use your shutter speed to freeze the action. Either can be used inside. Check out my video above if you want to understand why in more detail.

@cort733 4 месяца назад

I love your videos. But on a side note, you should definitely do a compilation of the "models" standing around as you talk 😂😂😂 for some reason in ALL the photography videos I watch (not just yours) I seem to always look at them, it's like they don't know what to do during that time 😂😂😂

@MattHernandez 4 месяца назад

Hahaha yeah I’ve stopped having them stand there while I talk for obvious reasons. That WOULD be funny! I appreciate the support thanks for watching!

@omilu808 3 месяца назад

Would you recommend the ND over CPL for sports action photos?

@MattHernandez 3 месяца назад

I wouldn’t use an ND filter for action at all. That was kind of the point of this video, so show that while HSS and ND can both help you underexpose with strobes, HSS is what you need for action because you want a high shutter speed to freeze the fast moving subject. ND causes you to lower you shutter speed as it acts as sunglasses for the lens. And the lower the shutter speed, the most chance of blur. Especially when photographing athletes. I don’t have a CPL filter, but it seems like it cut different wavelengths of light, which reduces haze and glare. It doesn’t cause you to lower you shutter speed though. So I’d say the CPL for sure! For action anyway. Thanks for watching and the feedback!

@dbenedict357 Месяц назад

What is the camera strap used in this video 0:59

@MattHernandez Месяц назад

It’s a Rapid Strap!

@onlyfacts4me 10 месяцев назад

My camera allows for a variety of sync speeds to set it at. What would be the reason to set your in-camera sync speed to anything lower than 200? If you set it to 200, then you can still shoot a slower shutter speed. So, why would you set it to say, 1/60?

@MattHernandez 8 месяцев назад

If you need the ambient brighter? It really depends on the situation. That slow or a shutter won’t freeze action though so keep that in mind.

@onlyfacts4me 8 месяцев назад

@@MattHernandez Right, i understand the shutter speed. Im just trying to figure out why there are max sync speed settings that are lower than 200. Like, why would you set your max sync speed to 1/60 in the menu. If you wanted to shoot at that speed, you’d just drop your shutter to that speed.

@MattHernandez 8 месяцев назад

Oh ok I wasnt sure what you were asking for…I get it. I honestly have no idea why you’d ever change it. @@onlyfacts4me

@onlyfacts4me 8 месяцев назад

@@MattHernandez Right on. I was just curious if there was something I was missing out on. You've got some great work! Thanks for the chat

@MeetTheBushes 7 месяцев назад

Question: about the 12 minute mark, you said you chose to shoot the bat swing at 1/1000 because 1/400 with an ND filter would have too much motion blur. But it's my understanding that as long as your subject is at least 2 stops brighter than the background, the flash duration itself will make it sharp, so even though the shot duration is long, the flash duration is much faster. Am I wrong there?

@MattHernandez 6 месяцев назад

I don’t know the technical numbers of it other than the flash duration gets slower the higher your power, and I was at full power which would have been 1/280 t.01. That’s like shoot at 1/280 s if I’m not mistaken, which isn’t nearly fast enough to freeze action. That’s why you can’t use flash duration when it’s bright outside during the day. I hope that makes sense…thanks for watching!

@MeetTheBushes 6 месяцев назад

@@MattHernandez Yeah my ad600s are 1/200 at full power but does get faster as I drop power. I’ve got some alien bees standard studio strobes, and the flash duration decreases as power increases, so it’s the opposite of speed lights. Anyway, thanks for your vids. I’m hoping to try some similar this spring when it warms up.

@MattHernandez 6 месяцев назад

Youre welcome! Thanks again for watching. @@MeetTheBushes

@kescor 2 месяца назад

@@MattHernandez Hi Matt -- The simple answer for if the flash duration would freeze motion would be if you were able to kill all ambient light. The second more variable component is the fash duration speed, as someone said above, the more power the longer the duration (less freezing action). Love your work. thanks!

@jmo4347 3 месяца назад

Could you stack an ND when shooting HSS. I was shooting with the shutter at its highest 1/8000 F4.0 and ISO 100 and the sky was still super bright. I didnt want to go higher on my Fstop to avoid sharpening the image. Adding an ND to a bright day like this, would it work?

@MattHernandez 3 месяца назад

Technically yes, but you’d have to have a strobe powerful enough to light up your subject. Average strobes wouldn’t be enough with just 1. You have to have more than one strobe or something pretty powerful.

@jmo4347 3 месяца назад

@@MattHernandez would an FJ400 be enough?

@MattHernandez 3 месяца назад

@@jmo4347 probably not just one if you’re shooting at 1/8000, f4 AND an ND. You’d need 2 I would think.

@MattHernandez 3 месяца назад

@@jmo4347 I’d try a 6 stop ND and no HSS. That should do it under the brightest daylight. Reason being, you lose power from your strobe when you shoot HSS. As I just found out on my newest video, you lose more than I thought.

@jmo4347 3 месяца назад

@MattHernandez I have to try it out then. Would you go Variable ND or just buy separate level nds?

@chriscorbin9565 10 месяцев назад

You raised the iso on the last shot, this would affect the flash as well as the ambient....

@BenSussmanpro Год назад

Thanks, this is very good instruction on using ND filters. But realistically, in my situation I don’t have time for all the prep that this takes, eg finding the optimal aperture, taking test shots, etc. I shoot the award ceremonies & group pix after track meets (where I also shoot the races), and the runners aren’t gonna wait around - they’re tired & hungry and I gotta act fast. I barely have enough time to switch-out lenses & power-on my strobe (which I have already set-up earlier). Therefore, I use a polarizer to even-out any skin tones from bright sunlight, and the strobe to help with the shadows, and often have to rely on HSS. I edit quickly in Lightroom to get the photos out same-day. But I realize different photographers have different circumstances.

@MattHernandez Год назад

Gotta use what works for you!

@BenSussmanpro Год назад

Hi Matthew- I think I’m gonna try the ND filter again. Haven’t used 1 in awhile. Hoya 6-stop is available at BH Photo. Do you know if that’s a good brand? I don’t see your brand available for 67mm gauge. Thanks again for your videos on this subject!