High Velocity Cartiridge History

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Randy discusses some of the history of the high velocity cartridges, many still in great use today, many of which paved the way for the spin off cartridges of today. Randy has even developed some of his own high velocity cartridges. Unfortunately, there are not any brass manufacturers any more that do small runs, so they aren’t available to the general public.
Names that are big in the history of high velocity cartridges: P O Ackley, Art Mashburn, Powell & Miller, Roy Weatherby, Fred Barnes, Howard Johnson, John Nosler, Sr., Charlie Durham and Vern Juenke of the Saturn line of cartridges to name a few.
Thumbnail photo is Randy, 1969, testing rifles with Les Bowman, Cody, WY.
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Комментарии : 45

@CharlesRushing-ck2qm 2 дня назад

Love Weatherby Cartridges and Rifles. 270 Weatherby Mag is probably my favorite and spits 130 grainers out at the Magical 3200+ fps. 26" bbl of course. I also have had a nearly 40 year love affair with the 264 Winchester Mag. Thank you for another great presentation.

@user-se8ds5ev5k 3 дня назад

I just set my limits on the range to which I know my old guns are going to be used. For my standard rounds is 300 yards. For my magnums is 400 yards, under Ideal conditions. I keep it real, and I WILL NOT SHOOT UNLESS I AM POSITIVE OF A CLEAN ONE SHOT KILL.

@leonardjanda6181 3 дня назад

Love ❤️ channel extremely informative and a knowledgeable person speaking 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 2 дня назад

Agree with the commentary about increased velocity out west. The example of the 6.5 Creedmoor loaded with 120-125 grain "Hunting bullet" for more energy can be validated simply by using any free on-line ballistics calculator. Thanks Randy.

@DavidFerguson-s4u 3 дня назад

Amen! Excellent perspective. You are dead on accurate.

@KevinMcGrath-777 3 дня назад

Randy it's really good to see you post and something again here recently I absolutely love your channel

@JohnAngle-vw8yq 3 дня назад

Randy I love hearing your opinions on cartridges. I would like to hear your views on the issue of tighter tolerances by sammi on newer cartridges. Is this a BS sales pitch or is there any validity to it?

@diggingoonschmit5300 3 дня назад

Don’t forget about Ralph T. Davis of Modern Gun Works and also MGW Bullets, which he manufactured until about 1967. He specialized in high velocity projectiles after being Roy Weatherby’s main partner and designer of the MK V action about 1957. It was not Fred Jenny as Roy’s biography will tell you. Roy had a falling out with Ralph Davis after the action was designed and Fred Jenny got the credit. I knew Ralph Davis personally. After leaving Weatherby he continued gunsmithing and started bullet manufacturing until he was bought out, forcefully by the US government for the Vietnam war effort to exclusively make 22 cal bullets for the M16. He kept 1 bullet swedging machine for himself, which I saw in his garage in Paramont, CA. He encouraged me to go to gunsmith school back in 1980-81. He was a wonderful man and never given the credit he was due. I also worked for Roy Weatherby for about 14 years from the early 1980’s until the late 1990’s. I knew Roy Weatherby and Fred Jenny as well. A great man was Mr. Weatherby and his company was a great pleasure to work for.

@f64ecc 2 дня назад

Just a word on performance: it comes at a price. Protect your hearing. The magnums generally have more muzzle blast than standard cartridges. A bruised shoulder will heal, hearing damage may never resolve. If you shoot at a commercial range that requires safety glasses be aware that glasses may render the ear muff type hearing defenders less effective because the seal between the head and the ear cups is broken. Don’t ask me how I know this.

@Almost_Made_It 2 дня назад

I think Sharpe talks in his handloading book about experiments that were going on at the time (1930s) trying to push bullets to 10,000fps+. I tried to look up info on how those tests went but I didn’t find anything on the subject at all.

@jaydurtsche2569 3 дня назад

Great video Randy

@michaelhuffer9966 2 дня назад

Randy, great content, need more videos on rifle 😊😊😊😊😊

@eddieb4227 4 часа назад

I remember when hornady came out with this 243 win that was fast as all get out. It was over capacity charged, and the bullet was pressure seated in. Something like xrp. I got really decent groups at 100 yards and pretty good at 200 with that taco 3-9 scope. But it didn't take long and I didn't see them on the shelves again.

@ThatAngryJho-td3xe 2 дня назад

Thanks for the video Randy. One thing that might be good for explaining what makes for an effective combination for quickly dispatching game is rate of transfer. You know just as well as me what makes a bullet work well is both having energy and how fast it transfers it and that is part of why a lot of the situations that work good have a fairly aggressive yet stable transfer of energy through an animal like the partition and many of the other very very good hunting bullet designs.

@maddog6493 3 дня назад

vary interesting ,and informative thanks ,, randy I'm a fan of the 300 h-h magnum would love to see you do a in-depth video on reloading for the 300h-h thank you take care

@paulhazel5754 3 дня назад

thank you again for your knowledge. WOW

@poggomon 2 дня назад

Can’t wait to make it out that way! Plan on stopping by and meeting you! Interested in a custom rifle, and I want you to build it.

@FranzAntonMesmer 2 дня назад

I still remember the 44-40 High Velocity and the 38-55 High Power.

@Trinitystillmyname 2 дня назад

I typically have disagreed with you. But this particular message..... resonates with me. Apologies for past headaches. Thankyou for saying some hard truths.

@MrPh30 2 дня назад

Nils Kvale writes in his book about “ About guns and ammo” that he and Norma and Weatherby worked on standardized work of many cases and cartridges . One that he mentions was the 7-300 Wby and no matter how much powder they put in no more gain came from it , just burning powder and chamber walls compared with 7mm Wby This gave Phillip Sharpe the heading that he was on the right track and probably what the max for a cartridge could be , and that was his 7x61 S&H.

@thomasdaum1927 2 дня назад

A lot of people want to ignore the facts and believe the factory ( HYPE ) to sell new rifles ! Thanks Randy for sharing your vast knowledge !……

@duckwacker8720 2 дня назад

Most new loads are for hitting steel Ave punching paper.

@jtrguitar6294 2 дня назад

Most people that talk about how geeat the mild performance short action cartridges are, are the same people who flinch when they merely look at a 30-06. They will often say "recoil is very personal" and will not accept getting called out for not being a complete marksman.

@rogerray2545 3 дня назад

👍🏻👍🏻

@SEOKLADUCKIN 2 дня назад

The 6.5 NeedsMore is a good deer round with 99 grain Hammer Hunters. Like he says the higher velocity

@user-wr1yh2zw6l 3 дня назад

I have my great grandfather's little Hamilton 22 short,had gunsmith at darlington gun works do a little work on it, would it be classified as high velocity?

@sbacsigadget 3 дня назад

I built a 338RUM for nostalgia reasons, have yet to fire it since ammunition is rather expensive.

@travissmith-wz5nc 3 дня назад

Faster twist on weatherby

@MrPh30 2 дня назад

DWM in the early 1930s made a full lenght series based off the .404 case . 10,75x73 as metric diameter is . It was 7,65x73 , 8x73 and 9,3x70 Decades later RUM copied them

@jamesbyers7169 3 дня назад

Would you trust Partition 100 grain .243 Win to take an Elk @~75? Or 30-30 170 grain as a better choice?

@user-wr1yh2zw6l 3 дня назад

I not sure about that particular bullet, but around here, SC, they kill deer with 243 past 200 yards, all the time. Seems elk at 75 yards would be doable.

@WillyK51 3 дня назад

If I'm not wrong, the fastest "Comercial" cartridge was the 220 Swift. Of course wildcaters have made them faster👍

@waynemayle865 3 дня назад

220 swift still is the fastest commercial made cartridge made today 204 ruger an 17 remington 22-250 are very close second

@WillyK51 3 дня назад

@@waynemayle865 He,He, remember when the race for speed was on. Also the plastic case with metal head, Ahead of it's time, (Today with carbon reinforced resins printed cartridges a posibillity) The Triple burn rate powders stacked, for max speed and a Compressed solid powder cartridge, sans metal case. And a tube inside the cartridge(Direct the primer flash forward) to ignite the powder at the front of cartridge. It's been a very long while for new cartridge development. The latest the 277 Fury 70K-PSI cartridge. Nothing to be impressed by

@diggingoonschmit5300 2 дня назад

@@WillyK51 The 220 Weatherby Magnum was spec to hit 4150fps. That was in the mid 50’s. But the bullets of the day couldn’t hold up. I saw early films of Roy Weatherby’s (I worked for them for 14 years), in which he was firing this cartridge at a target on a tree from about 50 feet away. The bullet completely vaporized in a trail of smoke before it hit the target. Since he couldn’t hit the goal of at least 4100fps consistently, Roy stopped production. Why make a cartridge that performs no better than the 220 Swift.

@chrisp308 3 дня назад

Meh... I don't see the need for an absolute barrel burner just because hunters can't get close enough.

@duckwacker8720 2 дня назад

Speed kills

@brimstone260 2 дня назад

He's just spelt it out, up to us if we listen.

@derekmcmurry 3 дня назад

I have three 7PRCs. With Hornady factory ELDX 175 grain I get from 2820 to 2860fps. With Federal factory ELDX 175 all 3 rifles are at 3000fps. Guess Federal got ahold of some Reloder 26?

@duckwacker8720 2 дня назад

Eld-X is Hornady. Federal doesn't load them

@derekmcmurry 2 дня назад

@@duckwacker8720 Don't know where you've been but Federal has loaded the ELDX for about a year in 7PRC. I have 3 cases of it. Do a quick search. You'll see Federal loads the ELDX bullet in a lot of cartridges - PART NUMBER P7PRCELDX1. Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line

@derekmcmurry 2 дня назад

@@duckwacker8720 PART NUMBER P7PRCELDX1. Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line

@derekmcmurry 2 дня назад

@@duckwacker8720 P7PRCELDX1. Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line

@derekmcmurry 2 дня назад

@@duckwacker8720 Nickel plated brass. it's in their Premium line