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Hiking the Great Smoky Mountains - Backpacking Trip - 3 Days, 57 miles 

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Join me for a 3 day, 57 mile backpacking loop through the Smokies. GPS data at www.sintax77.com
Trailhead: Lakeview Drive, +35° 27' 26.32", -83° 31' 35.75"
Trails Used, in order:
Day 1 (20.5 miles)
Begin at Lakeview Tunnel at the end of the "Road to Nowhere"
Benton MacKaye Trail / Lakeshore Trail
Bear Creek Trail
Welch Ridge Trail
High Rocks Vista - Great views of Fontana Lake!
Cold Spring Gap Trail
Hazel Creek Trail
End at Backcountry Campsite 82
Day 2 (24.5 Miles)
Hazel Creek Trail
Lakeshore Trail / Benton MacKaye Trail
End at Backcountry Campsite 76
Day 3 (12 Miles)
Lake Shore Trail / Benton MacKaye Trail
End at Lakeview Drive (Road to Nowhere) Trailhead and the Car!
Downloadable GPS Data at www.sintax77.com/?page_id=186
Season: Early Summer (First week of June)
Detailed Gear List to follow in separate video,
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F9p6bCC8RuE.html
but here's the major items:
Osprey Hornet 46 Backpack
Hennessey Hammock - Expedition A-Sym amzn.to/2tZP5t1
Sea to Summit Toaster - Fleece Sleeping Bag Liner (used as primary bag) amzn.to/2vJGD3h
Klymit Inertia X-Frame Sleeping Pad
13 pounds Base Weight - Still working on that Ultralight Backpacking System!
Link to National Park Service Map: www.nps.gov/grsm/planyourvisit/upload/GSMNP-Map_JUNE14-complete4-2.pdf
Nat Geo Map Used amzn.to/2uxYnjr
All content, including video, music and sound effects, are original works created by myself, Sintax77.

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@abramwingle8324
@abramwingle8324 2 года назад
8 years ago I was being forced to hike a 50 miler in Yellowstone with the scouts and was dreading it…until I saw this video. Something about you enjoying the outdoors lit a spark. I am an avid backpacker to this day. I watch this video every year or so to remember to put me back in the magic
@smprfly
@smprfly 9 лет назад
At 35:43 you passed a structure cylindrical in shape and asked what it was. That is the old style gauging station. The new ones have remote cameras and other monitors for tracking flood levels, discharge rates, and such things as that.
@joekonopka9753
@joekonopka9753 3 года назад
Camped on top of high rocks 30+ years ago
@barbararobbins5309
@barbararobbins5309 3 года назад
I have really enjoyed this video, and now I will watch more. I am the most unlikely viewer for your videos, and yet, here I am. I am a 74 year old Tennessee gal who owns a cedar chalet in Pigeon Forge, TN. We have owned that place since 1987, and years ago, I took one or two day hikes in the Smokies. Now I mostly hike the killer hills around my own cabin. I am not one to camp or sleep out in the wilds; I like my hot tub, and electric tea kettle, heat, and a/c, but I have enjoyed your trips vicariously. I just happened on you one night on my Roku TV when I awoke way too early, and one of your vids popped on the screen. Again, I would not have done your sort of hikes even when I was younger, and certainly not now, but I do love the Smokies. You did mention the smoke on the mountains; as I understand it, it is because of all the vegetation in the Smokies letting off oxygen, I guess, The Indians called it "The Land of the Great Smoke;" hence the Smokies. Thanks for your vids. I did find myself wondering where your camera was and how you get such good clips of yourself walking. I will watch more of your trips, and enjoy them while I am snug in my bed! Good job, to get someone like I interested in a backpacking video!
@BalasubramanianSomasundaram
@BalasubramanianSomasundaram 8 лет назад
Fantastic!!! I loved it...great. Me at 67+ years old could go along with my son driving to Clingmans Dome and imagine..the walking trails..hiking..all that.Loved the wildness,greenery and mountains.
@bobconar2222
@bobconar2222 9 лет назад
Indeed, you invited me along, virtually, of course. I have seen 3-4 other videos of hikers around the Fontana Lake area (Great Smoky Mountains). The additional data you provided blew me away. You stopped and let me see all the trail signs along the way, you documented the trails taken, you provided coordinates for the trailhead, you showed some great scenes along your path, including the beauty of the mountains and lakes, and the bear encounters, you provided a list of things you took on the hike, and you provided the bread crumb trails from your GPS! Extremely small amount of this information was provided on the other videos. And, it appeared you were alone. Again, no so on the other vids. So, a hearty thank you, young friend for "taking me along" on your hike. Being retired now, I hope to build up to such a trip. I wish you well in your future excursions.
@sintax77
@sintax77 9 лет назад
Bob Conar Thanks, man. Good luck on the trip planning and enjoy it! Glad I could be of some help.
@alisonreagan165
@alisonreagan165 9 лет назад
I'm going
@orion_13
@orion_13 7 лет назад
Thank you for keeping the footage of the wrong turns. First it gave us views of things you would have lost on the cutting room floor. Second it shows how easy it is to get turned around. Third it shows that backtracking to the last known good position is the best policy. I respect someone that is willing to show they are human.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
My main camera is a Samsung H300. For this trip I brought 2 solar chargers, 1 spare samsung battery, and a backup camera (Flip Mino) that were included in the 13 lb base weight referenced in the video. Without the electronics, the system seen here weighed about 11 lbs base.
@LazzarrusLong
@LazzarrusLong 3 года назад
15:24 I like the phrase "accidental history" as it is both accurate and funny. :)
@Tbogan5150
@Tbogan5150 11 лет назад
Wow! Hogs, bears, snakes, turkeys and 56 miles. Heck of a hike, looked fun. Thanks for sharing .
@IanYoungOutdoors
@IanYoungOutdoors 11 лет назад
I gotta say when I saw a 55 min video I expected it to be long boring shots with very little editing and lots of rambling or total silence. You did an awesome job editing and telling a story with your shots, and you kept your narrating interesting (no "uh" "er" "um"s) and gave us some cool facts about the area. Great job!
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
I love the Sawyer Squeeze filter. Super convenient and never had a problem with it. I've gotten some occasional comments from people reporting problems, but it appears to be issues with the bags not the filter. Just don't squeeze too hard and you're good to go.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
I got a few bites, but thankfully, there weren't too many mosquitos out. It was mostly clouds of gnats that drove me to wear the head net on a few occasions. Probably wouldn't haven't even bothered me if it weren't for being spoiled by my recent winter trips!
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
It definitely took me a bit to process seeing those hogs. Not something you commonly see up north, but I guess I can check it off my list now.
@ThouWithStix
@ThouWithStix 10 лет назад
I'm not very active on youtube's community but I come here for most of my gear questions and such. It just helps to see these things rather than read about them for me. Having said that, you have inspired me to do so much more than I was already doing. I have done multiple day trips and it has actually turned into a great hobby my father and I both share now. Just wanted to drop some love your way, keep it up and keep posting! I love watching your adventures
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Yeah, this was a great one for wildlife. Even had a rabbit and a toad drop by for an after dinner visit at campsite 76 :D
@JerryFrenchJr
@JerryFrenchJr 9 лет назад
This makes me want to go hiking so bad. The sounds of the birds really make me miss spring and summer.
@sintax77
@sintax77 9 лет назад
Jerry French It'll be here before you know it :)
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
I really like the Hornet so far. It actually has two polymer side rods as well a removable foam back pad that add some good rigidity, compared to traditional frameless ultralight packs. Makes it feel more like a full size pack, but still only rings in at 22oz or so.
@lifeorliberty3086
@lifeorliberty3086 8 лет назад
I really enjoy watching your videos. very informative & fun. I wish i could get my wife into the outdoors more.You & your lovely wife seem like wonderful people. I watch your videos over and over because they are just that great. can't wait for more.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Thanks, man. Mike was pretty bummed about not making it, but hopefully he'll get out there soon. As far the mileage goes, the reduced pack weight definitely helped. That, plus the campsite reservation system made tapping out early less of an option :)
@sintax77
@sintax77 10 лет назад
I'm definitely going to look into it. Great info, thanks!
@TheHiddenWoodsmen
@TheHiddenWoodsmen 10 лет назад
That first bear encounter was a family of wild hogs. I would love to travel to this place. Thanks for bringing us along:)
@everyoneelsegotthego
@everyoneelsegotthego 9 лет назад
Thank you for great video that shows trail mistakes and all. Mistakes are reality and happen all the time- thanks for the honesty that didn't leave the gravesite detour on the editing floor :)
@travisbackpacks
@travisbackpacks 6 лет назад
Would definitely love to see a Sintax and Trailkilla aka Trailslippa video of the smokies
@oldguy537
@oldguy537 11 лет назад
really enjoyed this video ,totally different terrain and vegetation to your normal hikes, a big plus seeing those bears, your lucky not to have the dreaded koala to worry about .. thanks for sharing Tony
@opossom123
@opossom123 11 лет назад
Nice vid, tnx. Boring rainy day here, nothing to do, nothing worth watching on tv. I check youtube and see you have a NEW vid up! made my life just a little bit better. Keep them coming. one day i might try making a video. thanxs again.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Good advice, but I never snuck up on the bear with cubs, we were on parallel paths and I merely remained quite and chose to observe. You'll notice another encounter shortly after at 42:06, where I chose to make noise rather than remain stealth and film, because the bear was directly in the trail.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Never tried canoeing, but it seems pretty intriguing. I started actually daydreaming about that during my recent visit to the Grand Canyon. That's got to be pretty awesome.
@johnnySMALLpepper
@johnnySMALLpepper 4 месяца назад
FUN VIDEO. PLAYED IT SEVERAL TIMES AT LEAST. FIRST TIME COMMENTING. GOOD HISTORY AND TRAIL DISCUSSION. BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
The Smokies are probably the most heavily regulated, due to their popularity. Most of the places I go up north require no registration or fee at all other than parking (i.e. White Mountains), a free sign-in log book at the trail head (i.e. Catskills or parts of Green Mountains), or a registration and small fee with ability to camp anywhere in a general area (i.e. Shenandoah).
@dannywhitlock8309
@dannywhitlock8309 4 года назад
Good morning Shawn 👍🏻👍🏻 I was in the mood for a good hiking adventure so I had to watch one of your videos. I always enjoy watching your adventures from the past and looking forward to seeing your next Wilderness hiking adventure. I hope all is well with you and your family, enjoy and have a Great week !!! Danny 👍🏻
@sintax77
@sintax77 4 года назад
You went waaay back in the catalog! :) Thanks, Danny. Same to you!
@poohbear2631
@poohbear2631 10 лет назад
I've ALWAYS wanted to go hiking/camping but I'm TERRIFIED of snakes. I'm living my dream by watching your videos😊
@MrKelso159
@MrKelso159 10 лет назад
Yeah , Those were wild boars you saw running by. I see tons of those here in Texas and you sure don't want to tangle with them either.! Great video and thanks for making long one's that we can enjoy. I hate videos that are only ten minutes long. Yours are much better. Love the Smoky mountains. That's where my mom was born and raised and had a lot of fun up there. Thanks for doing the video !
@06291960able
@06291960able 11 лет назад
Thanks for taking the time to make such a nice video, I watched it all and enjoyed it all.
@canuckgenie
@canuckgenie 10 лет назад
I love your videos, you come across like a real person instead of those 'outdoors actors'. I used to dangle a tin can with a pebble in it from my pack in bear country (northern Ontario). Never met the guy that trick didn't work for. Now i am retired and living in Turkey where we have a lot of wild boar - they make excellent ham!
@sintax77
@sintax77 10 лет назад
Thanks, good tip with the DIY Bear Bell, I like that. I would also love to try some Wild Boar some time. Haven't seen any up at the cabin we go to in Pennsylvania ...yet.
@econaturalist7786
@econaturalist7786 10 лет назад
Yeah, those are Wild Bore, they are a problem due to their behavior of plowing through the woods. I live near the Smokies & they are my stomping grounds, I gave up keeping track of bear. They are prolific through out the park, which is great for hiking. I'm glad you were able to get down here and hike some of these beautiful mountains and trials. Your video is well done. Next time you're going to be down this way & want a hiking pal look me up. Thanks again for a great video. Brian
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Ultralight Gear List video set for release this Sunday!
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
I might have to drag my friend down sometime to hit the more popular sections. Maybe try some of the shelters on the Appalachian trail, for a bit of a different perspective.
@OutLan
@OutLan 11 лет назад
That was most likely some wild boar you encountered. They are nasty and definitely something you don't want to mess with! I was also impressed by your composure with the bear encounters. Great vid as always! Please keep them coming! I love sharing your adventures.
@seamusgaelic6447
@seamusgaelic6447 10 лет назад
Really enjoyed watching your video! Looking forward to watching more.
@bobbyd0656
@bobbyd0656 8 лет назад
My brother-in-law and I have never seen a bear in the wild. After watching this video, we decided to do a trip to the Smokies hoping to see a one. We hiked to the top of Mt LeConte and stayed at the shelter. Not only did we have a blast but we also saw two, possibly three, bears in a period of 30 minutes. Thanks for inspiring a great trip!
@sintax77
@sintax77 8 лет назад
That's awesome to hear! Glad you got some sightings of your own :)
@coachwidereceivers557
@coachwidereceivers557 8 лет назад
+sintax77 A group of my friends and brother-n-law desire to take a 3 day trip similar to the one you took. I understand the permit process and reserving a site, but want to know if the sites are shared amongst permits, per say, if I have a group of 4 interested in site 84, do they allow another individual(s) to also camp there for the day. Also interested in knowing what the peak times are for backcountry camping. We are planning for mid-July or early August, but willing to go in June if feasible in terms of less crowded. Great video and appreciate the commentary!
@iamfred
@iamfred 8 лет назад
+Robert Davis that's great to hear. would like to hike the smokies too
@bobbyd0656
@bobbyd0656 8 лет назад
Coach Wide Receivers as far as I could tell from my research, they reservations are per person. You can buy a permit and include other people on it (for a price and depending on availability), but you cant have additional people at your shelter unless they have their own reservations.
@coachwidereceivers557
@coachwidereceivers557 8 лет назад
Thanks for the information Robert!
@kestrel6245
@kestrel6245 10 лет назад
I plan on doing the AT from Vermont to Conn. I live near Cape Cod. 2-3 hr drive to the Berkshires. Your videos are the best hiking on RU-vid. Keep em coming.
@SMHyde94
@SMHyde94 9 лет назад
Did a similar 3 day hike from the tunnel while down there visiting family over the summer. Nice area, beautiful streams
@jreda2000
@jreda2000 8 лет назад
great video, thanks for sharing. my wife and I have been there for some day hikes and seeing the trails again brought back a flood of great memories!
@MrKelso159
@MrKelso159 8 лет назад
Love everyone of your video's. They are so much fun to watch and very informative. Thanks so much for doing them. Can't wait for the next one !
@SmashingSanso
@SmashingSanso 10 лет назад
that chair was some trail magic.
@LILMATTY1
@LILMATTY1 10 лет назад
Dude I have to say that I don't comment at all on peoples youtube vids but I really enjoyed this vid. I myself love camping and have been watching peoples vids to get an idea on what kind of items they pack for backpacking. Plus I really liked that you kind of showed how it all goes down. Thanks for the vid man nice work.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
I run all my water through a Sawyer Squeeze .1 micron filter. It may have been less noticeable because there's no pumping involved. Just squeeze and drink ;)
@bradleyeimer2836
@bradleyeimer2836 10 лет назад
Great video. We're doing Hazel/Lake/Forney Creek Loop next week. It's good to know that we'll have to be on our toes in terms of keeping our eyes on the trail. Keep up with the videos. Good stuff.
@Taffyappleify
@Taffyappleify 11 лет назад
Awesome hike, great scenery and wildlife. You really racked up the miles on that one, your legs must be aching :-) Can't wait for your gear review video. Thanks for sharing this brilliant trip with us, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it.
@WWExploring
@WWExploring 8 лет назад
Excellent work! Thanks for posting.
@ScanMan1967
@ScanMan1967 11 лет назад
12 hour drive, 57 mile hike and 12 hour drive home,...your a beast !! LOL Great video.
@MsZawojski
@MsZawojski 9 лет назад
Thanks for the adventure ! Looking forward to the Smokys next year!!!
@wisenber
@wisenber 10 лет назад
Nice thorough video. When I'm in the Smokies, I tend to have good luck clapping and speaking loudly at the bears. I've never had one remain after doing that as they are quite timid. Shelter bears are another story. They've been acclimated to humans and don't show the same fear.
@bobcat65a
@bobcat65a 8 лет назад
Thanks for all your efforts in your trek and your video. Impressive work! Further, I would recommend your posting for anyone wanting to participate from a treadmill.
@4msaa
@4msaa 10 лет назад
I have really in joy your video in the smoky were I live thank you
@archivedamputeeadventure
@archivedamputeeadventure 11 лет назад
I do a little more bike touring than backpacking but I really enjoy your videos! I live in Northern Michigan, a lot of hiking trails and ORV trails in the Huron National Forest. I appreciate your videos. Keep them coming!
@tavesantel234
@tavesantel234 9 лет назад
Beautiful hike and utterly amazing! Thanks for sharing
@caseybaughman3575
@caseybaughman3575 11 лет назад
I've been watching your videos for a while now and I really enjoy the ones of your hiking adventures...you actually inspired me to start backpacking and now I must say I totally see why you enjoy it so much...there's no other feeling in the world...anyways thank you sintax and of course stay safe brother :D
@kestrel6245
@kestrel6245 10 лет назад
Thanks alot! Great video enjoyed going along on the hike. My second year hiking and can't wait to go on an overnight trip. Keep safe.
@sintax77
@sintax77 10 лет назад
Very cool, are you going to overnight the Smokies or somewhere else?
@bbrown6057
@bbrown6057 11 лет назад
great video once again. I love watching your full length hikes!
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
It's a Fitbit One. Syncs up to your PC / phone app for daily & weekly status reports, graphs, etc. I like it a lot.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
It's a Fitbit Nano. I've been wearing it everyday since January and love it. Syncs via bluetooth and uploads your stats to the phone app & website for review.
@rlholt48
@rlholt48 9 лет назад
Loved the video; thanks for sharing, great footage and well documented.
@edwinalgarin1715
@edwinalgarin1715 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing beautiful place
@venuslnd
@venuslnd 10 лет назад
Amazing footages of the bear and the cub.
@MaddLagger
@MaddLagger 9 лет назад
So beautiful, thank you.
@TomsBackwoods
@TomsBackwoods 11 лет назад
Looked Like alot of fun! Thanks for sharing!
@EasternMountainHiker
@EasternMountainHiker 11 лет назад
Nice hike. Really like the view from the top and the hike along the lake.
@TouringTastebuds
@TouringTastebuds 7 лет назад
Awesome video! This is on our list of things to do!
@TheGrue129
@TheGrue129 11 лет назад
I love the little montages in your vids.
@MEEANDSTUFF
@MEEANDSTUFF 10 лет назад
awesome production in many respects! thanks!
@Rocket9871
@Rocket9871 10 лет назад
Thank You, I am starting to hike/backpack again. (I need to get back into shape) I walked most of the AT, in my younger days.
@itsmdorsey
@itsmdorsey 11 лет назад
Great watching your trip, thanks for sharing.
@nixichixi85
@nixichixi85 10 лет назад
The smokys are my favorite place on gods green earth. I loved this video! Im attempting my first overnight hike here this spring, you totally got me pumped!
@RobertHummer
@RobertHummer 10 лет назад
great video, im glad i watched all of it, great narration!
@TheNfields260
@TheNfields260 9 лет назад
Tri-Corner KNob on the AT in the GSMNP is the most remote section. Awesome videos, I love em!
@TheRjourney
@TheRjourney 10 лет назад
sintax, I've been watching your vidoes for along time now. And i gotta say your one tough cat to drive 9+ hours to hike alone for 2 or 3 days! But i'm glad you bring us along. And be safe an keep em comin! Rob
@carboncopy2853
@carboncopy2853 4 года назад
thanks for a great video 77 !
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Yeah, the exhaustion definitely speeds up the process. Plus after seeing that many animals flee after noticing me, I'm confident that in the event I heard anything near camp at night, simply shouting from the hammock would clear things out. The bears are pretty skittish. While wild boars are less predictable, attacks are still very rare & to top things off I'm licensed to carry copper-plated hog-repellent as a sleep aid. ;)
@TheWandererGoods
@TheWandererGoods 10 лет назад
Hey Sintax77, I have officially watched this video about 3 or 4 times now, along with a few other videos by you. This is by far the best backpacking in the GSMNP video i have found thus far. Honestly, this is the first RU-vid comment i have ever felt compelled to write. This video is what inspired me to begin planning my own Smoky Mountain backpacking adventure. I should be going in early may for a 5 day, 4 night, 41 mile trip (weather and schedule permitting). I only live about 7 hrs from the park on the coast of NC. I can't wait! Ya have a new subscriber, and I hope to see more quality backpacking videos like this in the future!
@sintax77
@sintax77 10 лет назад
Thanks, James. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and more importantly, that you're hyped up there to get out there yourself! I'm actually taking a break from editing a new feature-length video right now, so more definitely is on the way :)
@puravida417
@puravida417 10 лет назад
I've actually done this exact loop nearly 10 years ago. Great video!
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Wow, that's crazy! I've never seen that before. They look like floating UFO tents, very cool.
@dieselwrench3621
@dieselwrench3621 8 месяцев назад
The gravesites are known as the Hoyle cemetery. Those where hogs, they are in the smokies but pretty elusive, you caught a rare glimpse 👍
@willieskins54
@willieskins54 10 лет назад
37:49 ........what the hell was that noise !! Love your vids man. I always love it when I see you've posted a new backpacking trip vid. Keep it up.
@sandraellis2721
@sandraellis2721 9 лет назад
Awesome video....enjoyed the hike and I didn't even have to deal with the bugs or snakes :) Thanks for taking the time to share
@jaanareinikka1586
@jaanareinikka1586 9 лет назад
Vbb ööv
@meton875
@meton875 7 лет назад
so inspiring, love your vids
@flysubcompact
@flysubcompact 11 лет назад
Great trip, great footage, great editing. Enjoyed every one of the videos I've seen.
@SasquatchSpaceProgram
@SasquatchSpaceProgram 10 лет назад
This video is almost perfect. The only thing it is missing is some post-edit narration. Awesome video.
@Galacticbirdie
@Galacticbirdie 11 лет назад
Awesome vid....I watch them all....There is a lot more to see in The Great Smoky Mountains hope you can come back
@MeetMeOutside
@MeetMeOutside 11 лет назад
Real nice hike ! A little different than the Whites ! Thanks for sharing and good to see you getting your pack weight down. peace my friend.
@nwbsbeth
@nwbsbeth 10 лет назад
Thanks for the hike!
@MrPJFish
@MrPJFish 11 лет назад
Great vid as always. Love the area. Been there a few times on some journeys as well.
@alexbaker4672
@alexbaker4672 8 лет назад
Awesome Vid! Really enjoyed it.
@teejay3272
@teejay3272 10 лет назад
"I've usually got two days but now I have three." I know that feeling. Good clip man. I've heard that park is awesome.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
.40 sub-compact in Desantis pocket holster. (Taurus 740 Slim)
@craigmsherman
@craigmsherman 8 лет назад
I'm not a long distance hiker but I enjoyed this video. I love the Appalachians and all of its various regions.
@carasjourneyhiking7690
@carasjourneyhiking7690 8 лет назад
You guys are awesome. Next time you come to va to backpack, I would love to join you guys. I backpack throughout the state and know most of the trails.
@bobbyd0656
@bobbyd0656 8 лет назад
8 more days til my first trip in the Smokies! Thanks for inspiring me to take it!
@AGilbert_81
@AGilbert_81 9 лет назад
Great vid, really got a feel of the GSM.
@sintax77
@sintax77 11 лет назад
Nice, thank you! That makes perfect sense, and Google image appears to confirm.