Hillsong NYC Carl Lentz and Joel Houston in 2010 describe their dreams for the church 

Words, words, words.

LOL he’s so so cheesy and of course they had big production. They were all about big production

This aged well…

Life is apparently a whole lot deeper than status and connections says the guy who’s whole life is about being worshipped up on the stage and being part of an elite group within the church

We see the fruit.

lol what a tool wearing his hat like that 0:20