Hip-Hop Has a "White Rapper" Problem 

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Thanks louastia I'm going to be a white rapper friend with hood people. I don't know where to start on music I need studio time how do I produce. When will louastia make Jid documentary when will these questions be answered ill leave that to replys.

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YO BRO CAN YOU PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON JOYNER LUCAS

No it just that he wasn't necessarily a rapper that stood out to people, so when he passed, and it deeply affected people in the community it made people change their minds and give him a chance. He's a stranger in a culture and art form where he has to carve a unique image. People aren't weird, they can change and evolve over time. Before Divine Feminine he was literally a cookie cutter frat rapper, then he evolved himself. It's how Macklemore ,lil dicky fell off , and nobody cares because they are replaceable (jack Harlow replaced him). If Tyler Continued on the track of making Goblin,Bastard and Cherry Bomb; he wouldve have been another Hopsin or big Sean.

@@narcoticlilac6588faces is frat rap?

@@lucqq3792 faces was 2021 I said everything before Divine Feminine Which was 10"-15" arguably go:od am was a transational Peorid. His music was never bad, it wasn't SUPER unique at the time watching movies was good .

@@narcoticlilac6588 faces was 2013.... they released it as an album officially cus it was a mixtape

@@lucqq3792 well I didn't know that, and from what I've seen Faces came out(May 11th 2014) which still lines up with 2014~15 season which still lines up with what I said. His initial Freshman -Junior run gave off the initial impression of who he was then during that 2015ish era His transition became more noticeable but they then people already had their ideology of who he was; Same for Tyler as well even though they evolved well last expectations. You also Have to account for Mac Competition being Extremely stiff. Em,Tyler,Kanye,SchoolBoy Q Kendrick,Drake,Cole,Wayne,Jay. Also Macklemore was around so... That really didn't help either

That s what happens bro you get your flowers and love after passing

It's a representation of how good your art actually is when people are willing to give it a try. Same thing with X, Juice, and Pop, etc

@@anonymouspersona4965no it’s not, all those same people posting ab how they were effected and listening at the time aren’t listening anymore, it’s a trend to be saddened by celeb deaths and act like you were a fan before

That's because he became famous after he died unfortunately. Ppl ignored him when he was still here.

@@zander2541 speak for yourself, I discovered Mac after he died and I still listen to him, same with Pop Smoke.

Exactly. They are white HIPHOP artists. Bronson too. That’s why they get respect from actual artists in the game. They respect the craft and didn’t just see it as some money grabbing scheme.

I think Nf puts soul into content, but he built a foundation of sad rap when he was young and now that’s all he’s seen as. I don’t think Nf is on the level of Eminem or beastie boys but he’s not bad by any means. He has nice original flows, good rhymes, if he could just have more rap style beats.

Yeah, he had some bangers on hope but the whole album overdid the cinematic beat thing. I live it when he sings

@@SammyFash yeah a little bit which diminishes its replay value but fantano was so wrong for its rating. Hope is by no means a bad album

Post Malone as well.

That s why he ended up as the most watched rapper on yt last time and still 2 nd on spotify after drake despite not dropping in almost 4 years

Think he was talking bout you casual black male from the hood. They're not riding around bumping Eminem new stuff

@@heckalydalii200 the world doesn t revolve around the hood tho,also there are black people who listen to em so at the end of the day it doesn t matter Also the whole club argument is also wack and bullshit ,with thar logic you get a lot of wack rappers in the goat convo and mkst of the times club music doesn t mean good music ,this logic can be passed to pac jay z nas and pac tho but people would say they don t make club music ,em neither but still smack that was played in an lot of clubs soo....anyone heard em at least once

We don’t listen to Eminem!

@@mauriluciano1780 You dont*

thats why he the goat

@@louaista agreed

Paul Wall…

Frfr

@@louaista Agreed

Well for years and year. White people have tried to claim control on black own things. Even if we try not to include you. You find a way to make a problem and stab people in the back. I mean look at the doc on kid rock. Eminem problem the only one that prove us wrong.

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the racism was turned around onto them 😭🙏👉🏾👌🏾

That's awfully hot coffee pot 😂😂😂 Spiritual lyrical jibberish.

You're racist if you think that

unfortunately we live in a racist world

Of course, people should all of a sudden be judged by their talents and not their skin when it's a white inconvenience lol.

It’s not his skin it’s his subject matter

@@Demsky83 It is legit because of his race. He is white, so it must mean sucks at rapping. Not racist, just stereotyping.

​​@@anonymouspersona4965not really since Em is the biggest rapper of all times in terms of sells, yet 2/3 of his discography is meh to unlistenable... People who complained about Em succes said that if this dude was black he would never had succeded the way he did. Wich is true, technical and cringe rappers weren't that rare at the time...

This guy's entire channel is based of negativity, he will use anybody who says anything stupid just for clicks and shock value.

But that's the subject of the video and the entire spectrum has to be addressed to cover both sides. This is Journalism 101, you have to present both sides.

give me a high five!

Thank you, exactly. We’re all one in Christ. Galatians 3:28.

This is largely why Hip Hop is dying on the charts. You have a few rappers who make big money but the rest are struggling to make ends meet. This much was evident in the Baby Mama video that their expenses are just as high as their income and even then it's not much. This recent fiasco with Kendrick basically created a monopoly for him. Meanwhile all the white people who used to buy the albums have moved onto EDM because there's no stigma against a white person liking that. Making Hip Hop only centered on Black people has effectively driven out your major audience. This was NEVER the case for Rock where the founders were black but eventually passed on to majority white bands.

cus he never was pretending to be something he wasnt

@@Tuelz... Facts

Or, 3rd Bass (and they were Hewish too).

You don’t even listen to him just commenting because you saw someone else’s comment npc

@@ezoloka you probably wasn't even born when he came out. I was. Cooked your goofy ass. Nerd

They have a much longer story than most people think. Beastie boys were always pushing styles, they deserve more respect than ATLEAST vanilla ice.

@@josephmoore643insane longevity as well. They were one of the biggest rap groups on the planet from the mid 80’s to the 2000’s, with nearly every album selling platinum

exactly. This whole video is dumb AF. We have a white rapper problem like the NBA has a white player problem, lol. Show me a better rapper than Eminem or Lil Dicky... Show me a better basketball player than Jokic or Luka... The best rappers and basketball players have been white for a few years now, I didn't think this was a secret.

Just about to say obviously you never heard of the beastie boys but you guys got it. I think the 2 of them are working on something. At least that's what I heard. Hope it's true

Beastie Boys mad respect

So true, I haven't heard of this "white rapper problem" in other countries

no one hates white rappers because they're white, it's because they never try anything new, mac's considered a goat, and he tried something new

@@anonymouspersona4965 but heres the thing, except us or the uk, hip-hop aint that big as a genre, ppl will know drake, kanye, em, trav scott, snoop dogg and maybe Playboi Carti and Jack Harlow now, and they usually dont care for other hip-hop artists unless ur a hip-hop fan, i come from Sri Lanka, and ngl, here, even Lil Uzi Vert and Tyler The Creator got barely any presence

hiphop is literally worldwide nga what are you talking about. theres graffiti and break dancers and rappers in damn near every single country bruh lol@@yanganaperera8500

@@yanganaperera8500 thats some nonsense hip hop is big everywhere

add apathy, vinnie paz, ill bill & esoteric etc. we have a problem with white rappers but nobody bats an eye when whites contribute in other aspects though, be it producers, turntablists and graf writers etc.

I whole heartily believe it's not a race issue but rather a person issue. We just haven't had a goat caliber white rapper since Em. It's not a race issue. It just depends on the rapper. As you said there is a lot of underground white rappers, but they lack the mainstream flair to them. And the other way is also true. There is a lot of mainstream white rappers, but they don't have the underground flavor to them. Hence no one has been the "next white rapper" which in it self is a very stupid term honestly. It's not a race issue. It just happens to be we haven't had a white rapper since Em who can do both.

Exactly. Besides Em, I listen to none of these guys. Never heard anyone say anything bad about Action Bronson or Rittz though.

El-P gets recognized too

El-P is a great artist as well

Dude exactly!! I'm trilingual and this only an American problem lol

Uk drill it real good

Thats probably because rap was just adopted by people over seas, its just cool for them and doesnt have cultural meaning. Rap in america has cultural ties to the black community specifically.

@@anon2752 I can only talk about my experience and feelings about the subject but i'm curious what people would think. I think hip hop started in many different countries because they could relate to the old school hip hop artists and their lyrics, it still does mean something to many. But overtime mostly the big club hits were imported and created this difference in the relation to hip hop outside the US. Where i'm from, that authenticity is important to many people, but just not as much as it seems to be in the US.

Happens with rockstars, all musicians tbh.

@@Julianus-is2qemusic fans are so weird when someone die like juice they start praise him and dmx so many I really don’t understand this and this feels like ritual

@@Boyka1700Yeah and I will say its always been a thing but I think that trend started heatin up when XXX died.

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What do you define as an "one hit wonder"?

@@ihatetheserappers basically hes saying that Vanilla ice had 1 really good song but then they fell off in terms of popularity and just generally the rating of their songs. one hit wonder is kind of like a slang it basically means that a song or album that a producer made was really good but the rest of their songs were mediocore or bad.

@@ihatetheserappers 1 hit song

@@ebear1 what do you consider as a hit song

Childish Gambino's This Is America has entered the chat

​@anonymouspersona4965 that's more of the exception rather than the rule

MFs is strange.

​@@anonymouspersona4965 The themes in that song can all be transferred over. The shooting scene turns from black on black violence into a school shooting.

52 yr old rapper still sale more then drake

You’re my sugar, daddy

Exactly bro Paul Wall gets no love and recognition

Louista just jock ridding.

Who after 2006 is listening to him still 😭? Stop it

Nah Paul and swisher house is the reason these rappers go crazy on grillz and lean.

So he'd be a boxer or what?

@@edschelchang6123…He’d be cut from the same cloth.

"THATS AN AWFULLY HOT COFFEE POT" - Em Eminems corny white fans "WHOA BARS THEY JUST GO OVER PPLS HEADS" Nah they don't, he makes dad joke bars now

@@tedthecommenter5364 When you cherry-pick his worst lines like that, it's easy to call him corny. Not all of his lines are hitters, but he hits more often than most.

@@tedthecommenter5364🤡

yeah

Still corny

yeah hes ass

​@@FriendlyAurahe better than your favorite rapper

@@BandileOnTVyou says he the best rapper ever? Literally anything could be his favorite rapper. You might as well be saying Lil dicktis better than Kendrick or like tupac

3rd bass as well. This expose is lazy af

Exactly and also because of vanilla ice’s dumbass, saying that he pave the way for Eminem when he knows damn well that the beastie boys pave the way for Eminem, and they sure as hell pave the way for him as well

This youtuber is corny and never does his research. Never letting the algorhithm sway me again.

He said Vanilla Ice was the first to go "chart-topping", meaning the first to go number 1. I don't think the Beastie Boys ever went number 1.

Beasties transcended hip hop they were making rock music by the end of their run basically. no disrespect they Goated tho

I dnt get why his skin matters on his decline.. he just isnt as poppin as before... 95% of rappers get hot and die out but its a problem cus hes white?

He truly is the evolution of Drake (but worst because Drake is goat level and goats don't come often) Jack just needs to learn how to mesh the mainstream with bars. make the first half of the album That's What They All Say, and second half Jack. But even then he's still gonna run into the Drake issue (people won't give him credit for the rapping rapping and will label him as a melodic rapper/ R&B artist)

@@anonymouspersona4965Drake is not at all a goat. He’s bubble gum rap. Chew it up, spit it out. Hasn’t impressed me with lyrics for a decade.

@@tychodancer I'm tired of people like you gatekeeping extreme lyrical miracle spiritual rappers like kendrick to be the only worthy type of rappers that are allowed to be goat rappers. Melodic rap is still rap whether you like it or not, and much more consumable than something like a To Pimp A Butterfly or Mr Morale. I respect kendrick for his excellent artistry but to be honest I barely listen to him because he's SOOOOO undigestible, I genuinely don't feel like analyzing a life changing Shakespeare level thesis book when I'm listening to music. I'm just trying to vibe. If you wanna do that cool for you, but don't tell me Drake can't be a goat because YOU don't like him.

@@tychodancerBro thinks his opinion is God.

macs earlier projects way better imo, after he passed away, swimming grew on me a bit but its still boring in comparison

@@akoinsaneIts beautiful Swimming is so beautiful Circles got me in tears

Slug is one of my favourites, he always gets overlooked so I get excited whenever someone mentions him

and a bunch of them make way better music than ems new shit, his new music is corny dad jokes

​@@tedthecommenter5364lol he 51 he past the dad jokes stage

​@@tedthecommenter5364yes darkness, walk on water are the dad jokes 🤣🤣🤦

@@chinmayyagnik5968 you named 2 songs

@@tedthecommenter5364 there are many others also I amnot saying that Eminem not make corney bars some time he make intentionally (saw his interview) and sometimes it's actually an corny bar but also he gives the really good songs and now he proved everything so he just show his skills set and little bit fun of the songs. (When I am gone, castle & arose, my darling, bad guy and there are a lot more if you really check his discography without any biases.

The racism is a big part why we never will. Why would some kid with a music set up want to join in when he'll just be referred to as culture vulture? It's easier to just do EDM where he won't encounter that problem.

@@Shockguey People need to stop being soft asf, do it for the art, you think people are gonna listen a gender because is easy, nowadays everyone could be a rapper, Asia, Hispanics, Europeans every race too

And he's still droppin tunes, good man

yeah? i'll try listening to him more

Yelawolf is also madly racist🔥

@@Dashiellwyndhamoh shit what he do I only know him from one train and I always skip his shit 🗑️🔥

back in 2020 he was openly using the n word around royce da 5'9s (black) dj, although the details are murky. royce even dissed him on the fucking banger "Overcomer". "yelawolf this is your first and last pass i aint gon put it on blast your punk ass know what this about". @@jaimewilson3644

A lot of those Houston rappers had their own businesses before hip-hop. Hip-hop was a secondary act for them. They were true hustlers.

Fatano is a joke

@@whateverwhatever4026 He's so annoying, basically outside of Kendrick all rappers are mid to him which is absolutely not the case

@@anonymouspersona4965 Yep, and he can't actually put aside his own OUTSIDE political opinions to listen to something genuinely. He shouldn't be reviewing music at all.

​@@whateverwhatever4026 yeah, he will deduct a point if an album had like F slur or some homophobic stuff 😂

@@anonymouspersona4965 "basically outside of Kendrick all rappers are mid to him" - What the fuck are you talkin about, Fantano loves hip hop and has given positive reviews to so many great hip hop artists, he's annoying but you're just sayin shit that isn't true

True but to be fair that is mostly because almost all of hip hop/rap is made up of black people so it makes so much more sense that there would be more black unrelevant artists

And yet 95% of the critically acclaimed rappers are all straight cis black men?

Exactly!!

Yeah, it’s just white rappers are usually more corny and fake which is why they don’t last as long.

Sometimes, color is more important to others than the music. Yes, sad reality.

That's American mentality for u lul

I mean it’s our culture…

​@@FastCarNascar That's the thing I don't understand why it can't be American culture, I know the history and all of that

I need receipts.

At least Eminem has encouraged other white or other people from different races to rap

Lol musician need to sell an image in their genres. If it is about true music, then 90% of hip hop won't be about sex, money, violent .

I feel the same way about Joe Budden. Nobody should be listening to some middle-aged man who one hit 25 yrs ago.

@@DallasChick79the difference is Joe had a career in rap both popular and underground. Fantano is just a talking head. A melon head.

He changed his whole political opinions and ideals because someone called him out for 1 thing he did, he has 0 spine

@@DallasChick79 Completely agreed. Add Charlemagne tha Shorty to that list. Only without the one hit Budden had...That wasn't even that popular.

@@user-op6kt8pg9y Oh I know. He's a total joke. Sometimes he really doesn't listen to the albums, I wasn't kidding about that part. He just politically disagrees with them, so he calls the music trash...

He’s more of a trap artist I wouldn’t call him a rapper

⁠​⁠@@TopixAnimations343he literally doesn't call himself either. he doesn't identify as trap artist or rapper, mans just make music that he think sounds good

Indeed

You get brought down for a few seconds because of your skin colour. The majority of the hiphop community get brought down EVERY day because of their skin colour. Keep it pushing and stop whining

⁠@@Ty-nh8gzWho gets brought down “EVERY day” for the color of their skin in the hip hop community? Name them.

@@sirchadiusmaximusiii 90% of artist's in the hiphop community. Most are minority races who get brought down and discriminated against inside and OUTSIDE of hiphop. This is done though race micro aggressions and etc. this talented artist from the MAJORITY race, is hurt that a community is not in favor of his skin color. I can understand that its not fair, however it is hard to feel completely empathic, knowing the vast majority of spaces in this world, are always in favor of his skin color. This is just the one space that is not as a whole.

@@Ty-nh8gz I don’t get brought down for a few seconds, I get brought down all my life.And I’m not whining about my treatment,I’m exposing it.I do agree that the majority of the rap community gets brought down by people OUTSIDE of their community, but I get brought down while being in it by guys who do the same stuff as me, just with a different skin color

hes not that bad lmao

I didn't like him at first, but he grew on me.

That was the style back then for that level of rapper, look at Hammer. At least he wasn't wearing skirts. All those album sales were people going to the store and buying a tape, CD or record. With out his money, no Death Row Records. First big selling solo rapper that was white. He paid his dues and then some. Word to your mother!!

Damn bro that's a curious way to listen music

Many important and older rappers were critiscizing the music during the arrival of what people called "soundcloud" or "mumble" rappers. The problem was the same thing you are talking about. It felt like not all cared about hip hop as a culture. They were rapping cause that's what is popular and plays and they listen to, if folk music was the big thing for young people in the US, many of them would be playing the banjo today instead of rap. For anyone who cares there's a pretty nice paper with mac miller and vince staples discussing "white rap".

@@Nyahami yeah...its not really a white thing is just a respect thing. Like you said if folk music was the thing they all would be doing that. The mumble rappers would literally not even know who DMX or anyone from the past is. Just a money grab

Similar to how black people get scrutinized, denied and blocked from all kinds of spaces every single day due to institutional and systemic racism just because of the color of our skin? Funny how that works right?

i mean, if you're authentic thats fine. but if you're like lil mabu and pretending to be hood no shit ppl arent gonna like you. a lot of white rappers are super gimmicky

Posty is pop

No

He's literally not a rapper. The only thing "rap" about his songs are the trap instrumentals.

Post has done some bonafide rap songs like on his mixtape

Post turned his back on the genre that gave him fame. Fuck that fool he a popstar

I believe he explained how listening to "circles" helped him understand the meaning of "swimming". I clearly understand how this particular exemple could be seen as someone trying to change their opinion to please more people, and maybe it is idk, but some people seem to not understand that you can just change your mind on stuff and it's ok.

Or even Macklemore. The uproar about him sweeping the Grammy's over Kendrick is still one of the strongest controversies in award music ceremony history.

He was using Jack for his clout chasing of Mgk which goes back years ago

He did something like that a few years ago and I don’t think it worked out.

I need em on gmac remix about the detroit sign🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥