Historian Alfred McCoy: As Tensions Rise over Taiwan, U.S. & China “Edging Ever Closer” to War 

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Peaceful Eurasia integration does not serve USA interests

Why would a peaceful world serve a country with the largest military budget and complex in the world?

In all fairness most nations have foreign policies based on patriotism and paranoia. If you are a world hegemon this means controlling as much of the rest of the world as possible, by whatever means you can get away with. Provoking the war with Russia was a monumental mistake though for the US for obvious reasons. I'm surprised Democracy Now! is supporting the Ukraine war.

Because it’s faking victimhood of “under threat” to make excuses to make more weapons, build more oversea military bases, and patrol around the world. They pretend they are on “self defense” when they are “self defending” half a globe away from USA. It’s all faking victimhood, and faking “righteousness”. USA is a world bandit, world mafia and warmonger always looking for and making up excuse to wage aggressions and wars.

List of some of the countries that the US has attempted to overthrow since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of that government): China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1961 * 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s, 2011* Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Serbia 1999 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * Solomon Islands 2020 - present The only wars China has been in during that span of time have been the wars in Korea, India, and Vietnam and all three of which were instigated by the USA as well since it was the US that was the driving force behind those wars by prodding those countries to go to war with China or used those countries as battering rams against China. In the eyes of the US, China is a threat because China and Russia are the only two countries in the world that the US can't invade at will and can't destroy and subjugate to the US's domination and control any time the US feels like it. For that reason, the US sees both China and Russia as a threat to its global domination and that's why the US always wants to start a war with both of those countries by using nearby smaller countries located next to those two countries as proxies to fight a war with China and Russia so that the US doesn't have to fight a direct war with them and risk losing the lives of millions of American soldiers and civilians to those two countries that could fight back against the US's aggression. Ukraine is a proxy that the US uses to fight Russia, Taiwan is a proxy that the US uses to fight China. It has nothing to do with "human rights" or "democracy" for the US killed more people than any nation in the world since WW2 and the US violated the democracy and human rights of dozens of countries, way more than any country has ever done in the history of the world! I hope now people understand why the US feels the need to go thousands of miles outside of its own borders to stir up troubles for China and Russia. It was all part of the US's plan implemented a long time ago to "contain" and "control" the growth of any countries that have the capability to reach the status of the US in economic, military, or global status. Any countries that do well enough to have an economy that is within the vicinity of the US is considered as a threat to the US and must be destroyed, they don't have to do anything to the US for them to be considered a threat to the US. As US officials often say, they must be taken out "preemptively" before they might have the chance to post a threat to the US in some way.

@@grandwonder5858 USA accusing China of being aggessive, when USA have bombed and killed more people than any other country. Could be they are just trying to build up their store of weapons they had to leave behind in Afghanistan. While China comes up with peace plans for Russia/Ukraine and in Middle East, USA are using Taiwan as an excuse to start yet another war, apart from selling $500 million worth of arms to Taiwan. Why don't they spend that money on homeless and unemployed in America?

Taiwan is an independent country how does your list change that?

@@michaelandrews4783 Not according to either China or USA policy. USA is very good at ignoring international law when it doesn't serve their interest.

@@michaelandrews4783 No it is called NOT Taiwan its called the Republic of China and is a part of China, thatis simple education you can look up on wiki in just 5 min. There is NO country called Taiwan, its also not called Thaipeh and that the Republic of China would or was ever an own country is nonsense and a lie.

China lost almost all of its BS causes and cases the U.N, the World Court, WTO and etc.

America Is like a SWORD of Damocle over the entire world.....no MORE american arrogance...

There is such a thing, as(UN)-International law . 🙄

@@manueldumont3709 Again every International court went against China. Are you a bot? I only ask because you seem to either be lying or you just don't know what you're talking about. It has never been China vs the USA. It China vs Any and Everyone who they don't agree with. The USA + 80% of the world is against Putler and Xi. That includes 18% who abstained to stay Neutral.

​@manueldumont3709 In the words of George Bush junior they don't have an army ha ha ha 😆

You see the Ukraine.

@@JonROlsen Big time!

This will the mother of all f..ups.

Blah blah blah, same old tired rhetoric from you neocon clowns. Hey a bank just collapsed in America because Trump deregulated the banking industry. The GOP will always make things worse for any American not a Millionaire.

Trump fucked it up, he never ended the Donbas conflict when he was president. At least Biden is actually helping Ukraine.

Surely,the US is a big bully that double deals all the time .

He did point out a fact that is true, but what China is doing around the globe. It’s what you need to pay attention to the government. It’s making longs to African countries who cannot pay back and capture their natural resources. They are purchasing the European seaport to control import export in the goal of taking Taiwan is to capture the Semiconductor industry . The Chinese government has continuing it’s propaganda to Chinese people to hate Americans for the last few years. Please explore more info on your own

read "the art of war"

The United States government and politicians have never seen a war they didn't like.

It’s disingenuous. China has been claiming neighbors’ islands as their own. I wrote this in a separate comment but they, like the Russians, don’t see their sovereign neighbors as countries but as expansion opportunities. Which is why they feel emboldened by the invasion into Ukraine and Russias purported plan to take Belarus within the next decade. Get some critical thinking skills and realize this program is no different than Fox News. They spew extremist propaganda where every geopolitical issue is a U.S.-centric one. Notice they don’t report news like “China is planning to invade Taiwan” and instead skew it extremely and dangerously to say “China is planning to invade Taiwan and here’s why the U.S. is bad and therefore we shouldn’t blame China for the invasion.” This world is huge and most of what is going on DOESNT need to center around some US exceptionalist viewpoint.

You mean the Democrats?

Correct, the CCP is a bloodthirsty mob of criminals. Leave Taiwan ALONE!

@@JO-uy6zs 😆😅🤣

China

Yep the US

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What would US reaction be to China supplying weapons to Texas and Texas declaring independence from the USA.

95% of the Taiwanese population has zero interest in reunification with China. If you were Taiwan would you want to be part of China? Would you want to be part of a totalitarian regime that in prisons 1 million uigars ? Not sure why so many people hate on America in favor murderous dictators like Putin and Xi.

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As a Taiwanese citizen, there are also individuals who advocate for unification.

not majority. usually the gullible ones.

@@abitgeekie people in taiwan are chinese too...... let chinese decide what they want to do

@@abitgeekie 80% is a majority. And the gullible ones are the ones listening to american propaganda and looking for a conflict with China.

A vanishingly slim minority, and you know this.

@@OscarPapaOfficial Unfortunately, Taiwan is located right next to a powerful neighbor called China, and Taiwan will not exist for one day without the support of the US. What the people in Taiwan think about reunification of independence is really not relevant anymore, and it is up to China to decide what to do about it. Sorry!

The United States government will not allow people on these island to become independent states, they are too valuable for US worldwide military strategy. Especially those islands in the Pacific in the age of Chinese economic ascension. An island like Guam is currently the host to Andersen Air Force Base, Maria Naval Base, and Apra Naval Base, these bases are highly valuable to US long term policy strategy in the Pacific, it's not gonna give that up by allowing Guam's independence. Same goes for the others. No empire will voluntarily give up territories without any kind of war.

@@hujiannong true but still a pity

Louisiana too

​@@hujiannong but, if Guam became a state, that wouldn't give them the right to kick out federal military bases

@@clydekimsey7503 Guam would never become a state, the American political ruling elite would never consider a territory like Guam as worthy of statehood. Look at Washington DC, no statehood. But i'll give you that, suppose Guam becomes a state, the political establishment in Guam would never kick out those bases, because those bases provide employments to the locals. Kicking out the bases would mean economic drain to the inhabitants, so they would never make that happen. But there is one scenario where the military bases would disappear and that is US government voluntarily remove those bases. It doesn't come down to so much as a "right" to remove those bases Guam being a state or not. Part of these bases were to set up a sort of economic entrapment so the locals would support military presence.

All on purpose for fake wmds

Mind Begs the Question: To support,aid an Apartheid State Righteous,Evil?

Best observation .

We’ll, how many has China murdered Falun Dafa members & Uyghurs?

500,000 Iraqi babies killed by the U.S.? How were they killed & where did you get that statistics?

What drug will do that.

Yes, sorry to say we've time traveled quite a bit back to the past. Conspiracy guides a good many of us and drags the rest with them.

​@@ipincsmuhammad9162 white devil's...'Guai Lo'

China is too wise not to jump in quickly and will wait and wait for the opportune moment, not only militarily but also economically and internationally. How many will Americans support US Marines dying for Taiwan? and for how long? During Vietnam, Americans did not support sending any more US soldiers to die in Vietnam. This is China's backyard; they can absorb the first, second, and third blows and can still send more soldiers to fight any US/NATO forces.

@@ZhenYae should ask your mom or your dad🧟‍♂️

@badofi yes, even with CIA’s operations US set some boundaries, but now what the high officials did contradict what they said that really actually hurt US image. They must think all others are idiots.

There are no international rules. International rules are just there to give excuse to the victor to do what they want. How many times in our lives have we seen government's lie straight to our faces about incidents to try and use the incident as a "international rule" justification to have a proxy war? Ukraine gas pipeline demolition, syrian chemical weapons, wmd's in iraq etc. All the countries do it.

As long as we have democrats and republicans it'll never happen

@@beefsupreme6488 unfortunately so....... united seems to only mean, with only people who look and think just like me, have the same religion as me, same color as me, etc etc etc... or i I'll have to think about it......

maybe you're still laboring under the delusion that the government serves the people? the people in DC literally DGAF about you and me, or anyone else but their rich friends. realize that we are f'ed and there is nothing we can do. we are slaves of the rich oligarchy, get comfortable it's going to be a terrible ride and then in the end we die

@@nobodynowhere21 speak for yourself... I been to war for three deployments.... America is troubled but nothing like that...and I don't need the government to do anything for me. I can do it myself. I'm doing just fine thank you. ✌️

What is the do United States is not trying to fix a damn thing concerning any other country other than destroying and not respecting their own sovereignty. It should be very clear that United States is only concern is having access to those countries resources. Call dad how could the united states try to fix anything when they’re constantly dropping bombs and attacking countries in overthrowing governments. Wake up!

The problem with the United States is that it’s President and American politicians can’t seem to wrap their heads around the fact that Taiwan is a part of China and that there in ONLY one China!

the Chinese civil war was never officially over. The CPC and KMT never signed any peace treaty since 1949. But since KMT fled to Taiwan it has lost power to new political parties. During KMT's era in mainland China, the KMT was backed by United States government, therefore the Chinese civil war can be viewed, in a sense, as a US proxy war. The US will always support whoever in opposition to the Communist Party of China, turning Taiwan against China, in another proxy war in the name of "democracy".

Proxiwar? CP were funded and support by Soviet, so what was exactly wrong about that? All empire are bad , but the Soviet and Chines Communist empire are the worst, how do you think so many Chinese want to emigrate to US? Stupid!

China only got a constitution at about 1987, it is not real, the court, the people’s assembly, not thing is real, the party is above the law. Make your country a real democracy, then it will attract Taiwanese naturally, no need for war. 他媽的誰想當共黨奴才？ 蠢透了！

Don't try to use the ambiguous term China to hide the details. In the two constitutions, the terms China are different. In Republic of China's constitution, the China means Republic of China (ROC). It'd never meant otherwise.

What exactly does "interfere militarily" mean is up to interpretation. Certainly the Americans don't want a Korean or Vietnam War 2.0 but what about at least providing air support and missile strikes? BTW they're stockpiling the island up and training the ROC army - which means they're already involved, militarily. What does China make of it? Also even the goal of US meddling with Taiwan itself is up for debate. Like LKY said, as long as Chinese nationalism prevails (which if defeated, will always come back even stronger), the chance of defending the island from PLA invasion is dim. But what if the goal, ever elusive, was never to defend Taiwan in the first place? A war that could slow China down, like how Ukraine is drowning the Russians...

@@theolich4384 To the Chinese, Taiwan belongs to her or part of her. She will never give up no matter what the US do. In fact, China will wear the US instead of the other way round.

​@@theolich4384 Very good thinking, very inspired.

@@theolich4384 The United States has no capability for air support and missile strikes, and any supported airports and military bases will be destroyed by China. If it is possible to lose Taiwan, China will not care about being destroyed with the United States or even all mankind. It is best for the United States to clearly understand China's strategic intentions.

Keep telling yourself that.

China phobia…

You clearly have never lived in China. It's quite the opposite!

Regardless of the nature of the Chinese bureaucracy leadership of China and the oligarchs of Russia we know China and Russia represent the challenge of the workers to capitalist power. The precise reason to crush both nations as a lesson they want to give to the world's workers. The wealthy class won't stop the fall of capitalism nevertheless. It may destroy the planet but we won't survive capital ism if they succeed. The planet won't.

Of sorts, yes; but in reality China, like Russia, want to exist as Nations.

@@bellakrinkle9381 China, the USA or any " nation" are not correct terms to define socioeconomic conflict . The liberal capitalist ideology coined those categories to deflect the responsibility of the social class in power of the world market system we know as capitalism. This is not just a war decided by the people divided by borders. Less in the context of today. This and any war are basically class war. Wars are for profit and the ones deciding those wars are the wealthy class . No one else. So any " geopolitical" considerations are just another way to justify the narrative of ambiguous " China or any other geopolitical term used to divide the world in hunting zones of the corrupt elites.

@@bellakrinkle9381 And they need to wipe out their indigenous populations in order to do so.

It is about the FMIC having soiled the palm of the politicians in the US. And since there is no one questioning them, they become emboldened and will continue drawing corrupt funds from the FMIC.

The Collective West has, for decades, attempted to psychologically gain their perceived right to call those seas international waters.

Let the war begin

That's a tactic of "luring somebody into launching the first strike". If the Chinese were lured into striking a US military asset intentionally, or even by some kind of mistake, god forbid, the US will have the justification and legitimacy to launch an attack in response, and will then tell the world that China has had a preemptive strike against US and therefore US striking back would be deemed as "defensive". So far the Chinese have been very careful, diplomatic, disciplined and reserved in any kind of military action if at all. My god, i just hope there would be no military conflict between these two powers, because if it does happen, it will drag many other nations into the conflict, consequently starting a world war

@@hujiannong Better build that bomb shelter with 3 feet concrete protection.

​@@speedingAtI94 I'll rather go up to the roof and watch the missiles obliterating the whole of us sheep

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Nope it's already written just wait 3 to years all this gonna be lot worse

And also, marginalizing black Americans, your own citizens and giving the opportunity to Chinese citizens in US.

I don't agrree with his communist style rule but he will go down as one of the greatest leaders of the century no doubt. Read up on what happened with Saudi Arabia and Iran. This to me is a greater blow to the US then the Ukraine war. So if you want to know if you are being told the truth or the media deliberately vaulting important info then this is your chance.

he has no idea, There are no internationally recognised treaties, policies or UN resolutions that state that Taiwan is part of china. Go and read rather than believe what you are told.

@@vietnguyen4312 Because there is no place called Taiwan. Go and read the history of Republic of CHINA.

@@johnlee-yo8jc 1: October 1, 1949, at 3:00 pm in Tienanmen Square the formation of the Central People's Government under the leadership of the CPC, the government of the new state, was officially proclaimed. Mao declared victory to the people stating “The poor peasants have conquered the country; the poor peasants should now sit on the country.” The CPC won the civil war and the PRC was formed and the ROC escaped to the still official Japanese island of Formosa in 1949 The war is over. FACT 2: The Cairo Declaration 1943 discussed the possibility of handing the island of Taiwan to the ROC. This discussion required a treaty to become official and was never implemented. FACT 3: The Treaty of San Francisco: When Japan relinquished its sovereignty of Taiwan with The Treaty of San Francisco after the ROC invaded the Japanese island, China was not even invited. The treaty was signed by 49 nations but both the ROC and CCP were NOT present. FACT 4: : The Taipei Peace Treaty: Due to objections by The Soviet Union The Taipei Peace Treaty 1952 was created. FACT Article 10 of the Taipei Peace Treaty stipulates that “nationals of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all the inhabitants and former inhabitants of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores).” Therefore the Taipei Peace Treaty transferred Japans sovereignty of Taiwan to ALL the inhabitants living of the island NOT to mainland China. FACT The inhabitants in 1952 were the ROC escapees, Taiwanese Aborigines, Japanese descendants, Dutch descendants, Portuguese descendants, previous Chinese descendants. THE ISLAND WAS NOT HANDED TO MAINLAND CHINA. FACT 5: One China Policy 1979: Does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT To quote directly from this US/CCP agreement: :"The Government of the United States of America acknowledges the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China." This does not declare that the US agrees with China's position it simply acknowledges it. E.g I can acknowledge that my friend is a Republican even though my political stance may be Democrat. THIS SENTENCE STATES THERE IS ONE CHINA BUT DOES NOT STATE THAT TAIWAN IS PART OF CHINA. FACT 6: Taiwan Relations Act 1979 (release at the same time as One China Policy): The TWA factually proves that the US is not meddling in Taiwan's affair it is merely fulfilling its obligations as per the agreement. FACT To quote from TWA: "Declares it to be the policy of the United States to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, ".... "Authorizes the President or any department and agency to conduct and carry out programs, transactions, and other relations with respect to the people on Taiwan." Therefore the Pelosi visit or any official governmental visit is legitimate and of no concern to the CCP. FACT TWA also declares: "that the United States shall provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character and shall maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or social or economic system, of the people of Taiwan." Therefore again the US is NOT meddling into Taiwan/China affairs it is again fulfilling its obligatory agreement irrespective of the CCP's propagandist responses. FACT 7: “UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The officially written UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT Therefore as clearly demonstrated above, Taiwan is not part of China. The only legal way that the CCP can unify with Taiwan is via an official written treaty. That is the solution to the CCP's ambitions. How the CCP intend to create this treaty and convince the people of taiwan is the issue,

We make the rules.

Good question. US seems to have selective amnesia and sometimes forget its own rules. "Rule-based" seems to mean "obeying the unstable mind of the megalomaniac."

Including the nuke sub which hit the underwater big stop sign?😁😁

I think those alliances were meant to deter such conflicts and failed and we didn't fix the problem.

Exactly

@@drphosferrous And didn't learn any lessons either. Most people are sleepwalking towards war with blindfolds on, under exactly the same kind of pretenses as a hundred years ago. "Uhh ackshually NATO is a defensive organisation, so I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed to bully other nuclear powers bc lmao what's the worse that could happen?" Complete chauvinistic nonsense that will end us all, if peace won't prevail. And it won't. Unless the people speak up and act, en masse.

Yes I learnt that in high school history. Alliances cause big wars.

@@jrt4585 Dogshit take. That's not what he said, and that's not what anybody's teaching anywhere unless they're braindead. Alliances of competing imperialist blocs cause mass mayhem, or hegemonic blocs that seek to expand their influence cause global conflict: see the US and NATO.

Idk I think amy has a major screw loose lately, she's been drinking the neoliberal Kool aid and is experiencing brain death on air

He is a tankie that seems to want China to subjugate Taiwan

​@@JohnFrumFromAmerica Taiwan is china, this a fact and you can throw tankie all you want. A word planted by US state

@@cottelito92 it's not China until chinese can actually control it. At the moment there is not a single chinese official that can legally do anything in Taiwan. That doesn't sound like something that China actually controls. So whine all you like until you control it it's just wishful thinking

@@cottelito92 Actually, tankie is British, tankie.

Even Chinese, American, Vietnamese, Philippine, Australians, Koreans, Japanese do not like nhow China is behaving.

What don’t they like?

I like it because my investments go up.

What is it doing?

@@coops1992 lieing..spreading anti China propaganda.. like it did to Iraq, Vietnam, trying to "justify" war spending and perpetual wars.. that make the US the largest military force in the world with the latest round of new weapons..

it's funny how you laugh at American I would wonder what would happen to China if American didn't help China when the Japan invaded China?

@@langthamxxx American has ever helped China in the past? What a joke!!! When conflict occurred, Japan invaded Korea and part of China's northern territory in the ww2 and had been fought back by China, in the middle of the war, Japan bombed Pearl Harbour then be nuked by American in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Japan surrender and leave the entire Korea, northern China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Indonesia etc. Do you mean that events was a help? What a joke.

@@langthamxxx American has ever helped China in the past? What a joke!!! When conflict occurred, Japan invaded Korea and part of China's northern territory in the ww2 and had been fought back by China, in the middle of the war, Japan bombed Pearl Harbour then be nuked by American in Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Japan surrounded and leave the entire Korea, northern China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Indonesia etc. Do you mean that events was a help? What a joke.

@@akhunsuryanto look it up

@@langthamxxx what can I tell you, America is a coward regime, it only dare to fight a small, weak and poor countries and did it as a group it called ally, it never fight alone. Even fighting Taliban it did it in a group and lost, what a shame.

Nope and Amy doesn't give a shit either apparently

Alfred McCoy is a warmonger and a an old fossil relic from a forgotten time. What McCoy doesn't understand is that China has changed 180 degrees and want nothing but positive productive relations with The United States 🇺🇲🇨🇳❤️☯️☮️🕊️

he doesn't understand what is "global south"? ha...................3

If you ever listen to congress or the media. They never answer the question. I am quite surprise they even ask this basic question to start with.

It is clear he Dodged the question. We all understand base of Juans question that, America is the real aggressor. America is very aggressive.

We don't sell nor show off our best stuff. 😂😂

@@KingDPenguin unless crashing it or leaving it behind in a botched secret mission.

nothing personal, it’s bzness selling one’produce. in this case weapons, for killing. usa= merchant of death.

One factor has to be considered. Biden is in office and he doesn't know where he is...

Liberal use of 'we'

Tankie

Fuck China

?What? Is there even a question that the Communist Party wants to finish off the Republic of China? There is no way this wasn't going to happen because the players are too unequal. It would never been a pseudo peaceful standoff like korea.

China would be fine as a world power if they respected human rights and international law, they don't.

What is Juan's last name?

​@@peterfranks6446 Juan's last name is Gonzalez. Juan Gonzalez.

@@peterfranks6446 One last name is two😂🤣😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂

Glowball Dominance with anti-union labor, stock market manipulation, and war economy oligarchy.

Thanks for reminding everyone about PNAC and the neo-cons. The social media generation pretends that Iraq and Afghanistan are ancient history instead of precedents for current US policy.

But.... *Babylon is falling...*

PNAC is the Neocon bible, advocates an imperialist "Monroe Doctrine" globally, with no peer competitor, and resorting to all means possible, including biowarfare.

in essence time is on China's side to reunify peacefully or economically before even blockade and ultimately using force.....

War monger Alfred

Chinese propaganda" "Million American support China, for example iam he"

you have great common sense.... good on ya

How does China have "the higher moral standing" when the people of Taiwan wish to stay a peaceful independent democratic nation ??

@@leighdoeg4970 nation?? you joking or what?? nation??

@@leighdoeg4970 Taiwan is just a Chinese province, it has never been an independent country unlike Ukraine.

i dont like Taiwans president all she does all political not care health system, not care crime, not care education, my moms medication now has to pay half of price, chang history book and so on i told my mom and my brother and friends un Taiwan do not vote her party again.

@@Madasin_Paine thanks for the tip, I've never heard of this guy before so that's helpful

See his other talks and books about the deep state politics (as opposed to nominal superficial fit for MSM UniParty politics. See also D Valentines talks and books Op P h o e n ix rising again, but within the U$! Chalmers Johnson has done remarkable extensive authorship and speaking on the woes of U$ empire imperialism and its antithetical relationship to actual democracy. The three US authors make a potent duo against the follies of the evermore U$ totalitarian leaning imperialism and failing "democracy promotion", IMHO. More from PDale Scott on deep states adds to the actual power and dark funding of it. Drugs, Guns, Gold, "energy", trackable currency incessant media PR and absolute censorship ability, theft, human trafficking and unlimited hybrid unrestricted warfare local national and international and how the iron triangle of organized crime, the war addicted surveillance state & W∆££ $t ways and means to totally dominate politics commerce and culture is almost consummated after almost 60 years non-stop pay to play and plunder and eco-cultural-genetics global suicide.

Being the world's biggest country in terms of population and the only surviving ancient civilization, yes, China deserves to be number one again. India will follow 10-20 years later, and I bet they will also be targeted by the racist West when that happens.

​@@nicolaupoceiro7570 China isn't even close to the only "ancient civilization". Even if they were, why would that make them or their large population deserving of leading the world?

@@topherkrump9317 China is never ever interested in leading the world. This is the misconception of the US. Sorry!

We have to get all our technologies out of Taiwan including the semiconductor manufacture & running elsewhere first.

We have to get all our technologies out of Taiwan including the semiconductor manufacture & running elsewhere first.

China isn’t communist. This is a litmus test to know if someone is politically illiterate or not. They’re not socialist either

@@kx7500 Would you tell me who or which country is socialist in your standard? Thank U. Seems there are different definition for concept "socialist" for different people. Any western country is socialism?

Although China is still ruled by communist party, the party has reformed multiple times since Mao died in 1976. today’s China is totally different from 40 years ago. Some people joked that China is more like capitalism than the West, and the West is more like socialism than China😅

How long do you think you can survive there during nuclear winter? Didn't the original European settlers there die from starvation? You might also add radiation poisoning, freezing cold, and cancer as possible causes of premature death if you move to Iceland.

You will have a better chance of survival if you work with people around you to fire the war mongers and hire professional diplomats like Chas Freeman.

Unlikely to happen of what you have said for too many reasons to list here.

First of all, Taiwan is not a sovereign and independent country, so there is no such thing as diplomacy. If there is diplomacy between China and Taiwan, it means that Taiwan won the War of Independence. "Taiwan can conduct its affairs independently." Do you mean that China allows Taiwan to be independent? The purpose is only to have no US warships? You are joking? And U.S. warships should fear for their own safety. You say this is a win-win ? It's just that Taiwan won and China lost completely. If there are idiots in the top of China, they may agree with you.

Points at Hong Kong...

@@tylr3669 Hong Kong is no longer relevant here.

@@pjeng1 That's kind of the point I was making...yes...

China also should only mind its own business and leave the little island in peace

? like 1/2 of our stuff comes from Asia? what are you talking about?

Then maybe get all your Asian immigrants out of North America also LOL

The fundamental question: should aspiring superpowers nations be allowed to have a ‘sphere of influence’ and some level of control over smaller neighboring countries?

there are nukes in taiwan ? i don't think so in cuba there were

@@theteamxxx3142 in response to US nukes in turkey

I ask this democracy worldwide?but same here in the Philippines the people quite,the use little knowing the people face,thank the news here I in the conversation and I have hope this air voice conversation be personal,I pray people start to discuss about,the people we heard,muhammad alajmi..

Give us your take, then; what scenario do you see? I'd love to hear alternative views - seriously.

@@bellakrinkle9381 Just listen to Alfred McCoy' comments again. He pointed out two possible scenarios near the end of his comment.

@@pjeng1 and they're not the only scenarios.

@@JonROlsen Anything is possible.

They are wrong. 1: October 1, 1949, at 3:00 pm in Tienanmen Square the formation of the Central People's Government under the leadership of the CPC, the government of the new state, was officially proclaimed. Mao declared victory to the people stating “The poor peasants have conquered the country; the poor peasants should now sit on the country.” The CPC won the civil war and the PRC was formed and the ROC escaped to the still official Japanese island of Formosa in 1949 The war is over. FACT 2: The Cairo Declaration 1943 discussed the possibility of handing the island of Taiwan to the ROC. This discussion required a treaty to become official and was never implemented. FACT 3: The Treaty of San Francisco: When Japan relinquished its sovereignty of Taiwan with The Treaty of San Francisco after the ROC invaded the Japanese island, China was not even invited. The treaty was signed by 49 nations but both the ROC and CCP were NOT present. FACT 4: : The Taipei Peace Treaty: Due to objections by The Soviet Union The Taipei Peace Treaty 1952 was created. FACT Article 10 of the Taipei Peace Treaty stipulates that “nationals of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all the inhabitants and former inhabitants of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores).” Therefore the Taipei Peace Treaty transferred Japans sovereignty of Taiwan to ALL the inhabitants living of the island NOT to mainland China. FACT The inhabitants in 1952 were the ROC escapees, Taiwanese Aborigines, Japanese descendants, Dutch descendants, Portuguese descendants, previous Chinese descendants. THE ISLAND WAS NOT HANDED TO MAINLAND CHINA. FACT 5: One China Policy 1979: Does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT To quote directly from this US/CCP agreement: :"The Government of the United States of America acknowledges the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China." This does not declare that the US agrees with China's position it simply acknowledges it. E.g I can acknowledge that my friend is a Republican even though my political stance may be Democrat. THIS SENTENCE STATES THERE IS ONE CHINA BUT DOES NOT STATE THAT TAIWAN IS PART OF CHINA. FACT 6: Taiwan Relations Act 1979 (release at the same time as One China Policy): The TWA factually proves that the US is not meddling in Taiwan's affair it is merely fulfilling its obligations as per the agreement. FACT To quote from TWA: "Declares it to be the policy of the United States to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, ".... "Authorizes the President or any department and agency to conduct and carry out programs, transactions, and other relations with respect to the people on Taiwan." Therefore the Pelosi visit or any official governmental visit is legitimate and of no concern to the CCP. FACT TWA also declares: "that the United States shall provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character and shall maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or social or economic system, of the people of Taiwan." Therefore again the US is NOT meddling into Taiwan/China affairs it is again fulfilling its obligatory agreement irrespective of the CCP's propagandist responses. FACT 7: “UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The officially written UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT Therefore as clearly demonstrated above, Taiwan is not part of China. The only legal way that the CCP can unify with Taiwan is via an official written treaty. That is the solution to the CCP's ambitions. How the CCP intend to create this treaty and convince the people of taiwan is the issue,

There will be a peaceful reunification. Much to US disappointment 😅

@@jk21nola91 I to am looking forward to the mainland learning from Taiwan becoming democratic and respecting human rights.

Constitutions do not determine sovereignty my friend.If they did then Russia's recent constitutional changes would automatically cede half of Ukraine to Russia. Read and seek the truth about Taiwan as most people including this professor have no idea. Taiwan belongs to the people of Taiwan.

@@vietnguyen4312 A constitution is the most basic & important law of the land. Without that, a country is lawless and chaotic and its gov't is free to shoot you and steal all you have without recourse. Taiwan's constitution states Taiwan is China. But yes, Taiwan and America should both be restored to their aboriginal people, without the invader who genocided them. All han chinese get out of taiwan, and all yanks get out of america!

@@davidrichards1741 Constitutions do not determine sovereignty .If they did then Russia's recent constitutional changes would automatically cede half of Ukraine to Russia. There are no treaties, policies, agreements or UN resolutions that state Taiwan is part of China. Agree that Taiwan should be returned to the aboriginals that ruled the island for 30000 years. The only issue is that the aboriginals have been mostly bread out. Many of the aboriginal were in fact black. People do not realize that the Portuguese then Dutch followed by the Manchurian only ever controlled part of the island due to the inhospitable aboriginals, it was in fact the Japanese who were truly the first conquerors of Taiwan not anybody else. legally the island of Taiwan now belongs to the inhabitants of the island. have a read and seek the truth. There is no ambiguity. In other words Taiwan belongs to Taiwan.

​@@vietnguyen4312 Taiwan has no legal sovereignty, period. Point to any binding LEGAL document that stipulates otherwise - you cannot because none exists. Sovereignty isn't determined by a province, city, municipality, etc. Hawaii, Texas, PR, Guam, etc also aren't sovereign even tho the majority wish to break from the US. And if it did, then should a city therein be able to defy the state and rejoing the union? And them a neighborhood in the city declare separate soverignty from the city? You advocate for the path of chaos, not to mention it's constitutionally unlawful. Just like how Quebec and Alberta couldn't get sovereignty from Canada, even after a majority voted for sovereignty in a referendum. It's not the juridisction of voters. Why? The constitution, to protect the rights of the minority. Taiwan is PROVINCE of china, part of china, and LEGALLY not sovereign. I don't give a whit about Taiwan or the ppl there, except that some mostly-young hotheads brainwashed by US media, have been all whipped up by the US NED into wanting to literally fight for unlawful sovereignty, that it can trigger WW3 just as the evil US warmongering elite want. I already had a lifetime fill of that 55 years ago in that region in Vietnam which was based on lies for the benefit of an elite that profited enormously by it. History repeats when ppl are ignorant of it. But that's what you want? War and death?? The ukraine is a peaceful messiah compared to what taiwan will become - likely nuclear in the end.

@@davidrichards1741 1: October 1, 1949, at 3:00 pm in Tienanmen Square the formation of the Central People's Government under the leadership of the CPC, the government of the new state, was officially proclaimed. Mao declared victory to the people stating “The poor peasants have conquered the country; the poor peasants should now sit on the country.” The CPC won the civil war and the PRC was formed and the ROC escaped to the still official Japanese island of Formosa in 1949 The war is over. FACT 2: The Cairo Declaration 1943 discussed the possibility of handing the island of Taiwan to the ROC. This discussion required a treaty to become official and was never implemented. FACT 3: The Treaty of San Francisco: When Japan relinquished its sovereignty of Taiwan with The Treaty of San Francisco after the ROC invaded the Japanese island, China was not even invited. The treaty was signed by 49 nations but both the ROC and CCP were NOT present. FACT 4: : The Taipei Peace Treaty: Due to objections by The Soviet Union The Taipei Peace Treaty 1952 was created. FACT Article 10 of the Taipei Peace Treaty stipulates that “nationals of the Republic of China shall be deemed to include all the inhabitants and former inhabitants of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu (the Pescadores).” Therefore the Taipei Peace Treaty transferred Japans sovereignty of Taiwan to ALL the inhabitants living of the island NOT to mainland China. FACT The inhabitants in 1952 were the ROC escapees, Taiwanese Aborigines, Japanese descendants, Dutch descendants, Portuguese descendants, previous Chinese descendants. THE ISLAND WAS NOT HANDED TO MAINLAND CHINA. FACT 5: One China Policy 1979: Does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT To quote directly from this US/CCP agreement: :"The Government of the United States of America acknowledges the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China." This does not declare that the US agrees with China's position it simply acknowledges it. E.g I can acknowledge that my friend is a Republican even though my political stance may be Democrat. THIS SENTENCE STATES THERE IS ONE CHINA BUT DOES NOT STATE THAT TAIWAN IS PART OF CHINA. FACT 6: Taiwan Relations Act 1979 (release at the same time as One China Policy): The TWA factually proves that the US is not meddling in Taiwan's affair it is merely fulfilling its obligations as per the agreement. FACT To quote from TWA: "Declares it to be the policy of the United States to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, ".... "Authorizes the President or any department and agency to conduct and carry out programs, transactions, and other relations with respect to the people on Taiwan." Therefore the Pelosi visit or any official governmental visit is legitimate and of no concern to the CCP. FACT TWA also declares: "that the United States shall provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character and shall maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or social or economic system, of the people of Taiwan." Therefore again the US is NOT meddling into Taiwan/China affairs it is again fulfilling its obligatory agreement irrespective of the CCP's propagandist responses. FACT 7: “UN Resolution No. 2758 ruled in 1971, that the PRC had obtained the representation rights and all legal rights originally owned by the ROC in the UN”. It is true that UN recognition was handed to the CPC as they were the ruling government of China not the ROC . The officially written UN resolution does not state that Taiwan is part of China. FACT Therefore as clearly demonstrated above, Taiwan is not part of China. The only legal way that the CCP can unify with Taiwan is via an official written treaty.

So weird that you don’t even mention Russia whatsoever or their culpability

And Alfred McCoy isn't one of them

@@nshea3286👍🏿

Just wait for 10 years and see …

He’s doing pretty well

😂😂😂

@@MFK1967 You would. Howd ya like the Bank failure. Anothing one coming Monday. Fool

The U.S created the many messes throughout the world and has never properly cleaned anything up.

@@jo-annerichardson34 ; Agreed.

Total BS, the USA have a history of creating wars all around the world for their own imperialist interests.😀

No American puppets on the panel ?

@@trex4899 apparently only Chinese puppets. I'm fine with it, but let's not pretend.

@Daniel Trang to me they are both evil empires, and will destroy the planet with their drive for economic and military supremacy. But you do have a point, the usa history in this regard is abysmal!

People are only convicted on unanimous votes in American judicial systems.

They don't think that's why they all agree

Chinese propaganda" "Million American support China, for example AAB 777 Barry"

Trump started no wars and Biden is full scale and expanding wars

lol

@Tylr You put lol while the usa just had a downed drove and sending a trillion in military equipment to Ukraine. All of that is under so called Democrats.

@@blackseed9293 yes "so called"...really the "uniparty" or the bureaucracy. But the GOP? nah...not even close...

@@tylr3669 GOP Gang Of Pathologicals…

Like who? He stated facts and gave his opinion on the geo political situation. It's not like he was pro china or pro US. He called China an authoritarian state and recognized the imperialism of the US. I don't really see much issues with his analysis even if I don't agree with all his conclusions.

@@AroPnut where McCoy loses the plot is where he claims that if China’s Navy blockaded Taiwan or violently seized Taiwan, that a US reaction would somehow be seen as being the aggressor state, which is absolute nonsense. If China did either of the scenarios McCoy laid out, all of China’s military and logistical assets would be fair game for military engagement by Taiwan and its allies, including the US.

@@ianmcleod48 the only way China goes kinetic first is if taiwan declares independence or acquires nuclear weapons, and these do not happen without US consent (really, direction). And your comment regarding what’s fair game is absolutely asinine. Everyone’s ROE would be extremely restricted for fear of vertical escalation.

Americans love fighting for democracy the Chinese military is untested n filled with ideologically appointed officials Y’all don’t stand a chance

It will be China's Ukraine

Taiwan needs an election soon, very soon. Hopefully, the SANE political party will come to power in Taipei.

We can expect China to behave in a new war as Russia behaved in World War 2. That is, send a billion Chinese like rats to attack their opponents until the opponent is overcome and defeated. The only outcome of a war between the United States and China is total nuclear devastation of China and perhaps the world.

Yes. There's nothing like being cannon fodder for the so called elites.

Americas bully days are over. No one dares believe American lies anymore. The world has learned its lesson America cannot be trusted.

yes, that was news to me. I heard they supported the soviets, but just to make trouble for the US (which makes sense geopolitically)...but nukes? I don't think so...seems like a stretch.

...and china just been sitting around doing nothing right?

Jealousy???

Who’s attempting to start a war again? China..and y’all think they don’t need a beat down? 🤦‍♂️

China is also bad.

Someone should whack the Americans at the knee. Americans are such rednecks in this civilized world of ours. 😊😊😊. They are now indulging in self victimization.

@@ZhenYae not all Americans are rednecks you racist or something?

@sticks_studiosHQ when the Whites were rampaging across the world, spreading their values to races different from them. Was that racist? Then accept that there are governments and worldviews different from those of this marauding horde. It is not racism. Just values. It is quite convenient, I must say. Values..values...values.. You reckon you know why there are Neo-Nazis in Ukraine fighting the Russians and the USA and EU are their sympathizers. and that anyone accused of aiding Russia is frowned upon by the USA, Canada, Australia, the UK, New Zealand, and the EU. You do not wonder!!