Historian and Broadcaster Rafe Heydel-Mankoo, who has 30+ years experience in Churchill scholarship and serving on the boards of Churchill-related organisations, defends Sir WInston Churchill's legacy against ignorant attacks.
@@thepatriot665 , because they left shit holes for a better life…but then promptly turn around and try to turn their new country into the shit hole they left. They’re stupid.
Hmm, I do want to give credit where it is atleast due to pursue objectivity on these controversial issues. He did atleast acknowledge the positive points Rafe made at the start of the video, so he showed he can atleast listen to and respond to points. An error in his way of thinking is exposed afterward however, in which he pushes all those positive things aside to focus primarily on negative things, unwilling to see balance between them. And at the end he particularly showed his hand, in which Rafe told him to do more research at the broader context because he's quite certain he's incorrect in his perspective, but instead he just says: "The quote speaks for itself." In that instance he showed he was unwilling to perceive anything outside of what he's already decided is correct, and that no-one telling him otherwise can change his mind. We'll see if maybe a seed can be planted here to change his mind in the future, but he's showing a more religious spirit in his beliefs than one that looks for truth.
@patrino I would heavily question the notion that the British thought of themselves with the racial connotations the activist is pushing onto them, as cultures used to be far more homogeneous, in which when one would mention an ethnicity, it was more of an association with their various cultures than a purely racial context like the race marxists say today. There is no doubt in my mind Churchill ahnd muhch of England had a superiority complex compared to the rest of the world, but I question how much of that was a racial perspective. It looks far more likely to me to be primarily afeeling of cultural superiority than having muhch to do with the racial perspectives talked about today.
I think that describes you. Rafe used a red herring in churchills addressing of nations as races and the 'activist' pointed out the quote again where this was not applicable. stop seeing everything through your bias. objectively the 'activist' is correct here. It's ok to be conservative or anti-woke/left, whatever you want to call it, and still call a spade a spade. The truth is what it is. uphold it.
It's the Marxist way silence them it's about control so all you have to do is call them racist until you control them it is literally in the book of marxism I don't even want to say it but it is it is literally call them something call them and name that will hurt them until they control by you like that is literally what they're doing they shout you down they scream they rent and rave until you submit or you run away
I agree! The word racist has been used so much it is falling flat! Soon being called a racist will be a badge of honor because it means we do not agree with the race hustling, bigoted idiots trying to divide people! Why do they do this, follow the money trail!
Not anymore , I'm half Moroccan and get called ' racist' by white lefties for calling out Islam .....Something I know about first hand, unlike them , Just ignore the noise
@@elkiebeerepoot5829 Fighting for Hamas and their followers in Gaza...terrorists...is exact opposite of being on the side of right. Femi is a bigot and antisemite.
you shouldn’t, you’re your own individual. only racists (sadly that includes today’s woke left) would aggregate you with anyone sharing your shade of skin
Brainwashed by Hollywood they have no thoughts of there own just a romanticised historically inaccurate vision of fighting against imaginary racial injustice
My grandmother admired Churchill. She expressed he helped the citizens of this country believe that defending this island was possible, when countries had already fallen, and Britain stood on its own. She would be horrified to see what is happening to this country, and how ungrateful those enjoy our democracy trash this country at every opportunity. She was the generation that saw sacrifices made and loss great. Of the war generation what a disservice, I believe these minorities this day may be best to find a place where they feel they belong without appalling racist narrative against the majority population of this country. I’m shocked how uneducated this gentleman was. Rafe, great as always
My absolute hero. My father served in the Royal Navy during the war and as a post war baby I heard first hand what happened. I am grateful for that and I cried when Churchill's funeral was broadcast in 1965; I felt as though we were on our own. Now I'm frightened because we are against a new enemy. The problem is that children haven't been taught British history for only being taught what 'Woke' teachers want them to know.
As a proud educated English born black male,..i most certainly agree with you,..is this person implying that black people would have been better off under the German/muslim alliance in Africa?.... You have more patience than i sir..🫡
@@pamelakoretsky9909 I did google it and it would seem the indigenous people of America are called Indians because Christopher Columbus called them that. He was convinced he had arrived in India when he first arrived in N America.
@@ruthbashford3176 what i said. They were thus distinguished from actual people from India....aka Indian People...by theceuropeans and Brittish who called them Red "Indians". Do you understand now that it was not a racist term as used in those times?
Britain wouldn't exist without a leader like Churchill. We respect him in America. Have absolute ZERO concern with what immigrants or white liberals think of him. One of the greatest!
I'm a part Aboriginal Australian and I'm grateful to be here living under this way of life . We dodged a bullet from china islam Indonesia....no thanks ..😅
As a black person brought up in this country, I absolutely love this country and wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. Thank God for people like Winston Churchill.
see how he was rubbing his nose when Rafe was telling us how many on the left were racist. He didn't know that and didn't want to hear how Churchill defended the black US soldiers in WWII. That made him uncomfortable.
From Wikipedia "Femi Nylander is an activist, poet and actor of African descent hailing from Manchester in the UK." I think that says it everything. lol!
“I do not apologize for the takeover of the region by the Jews from the Palestinians in the same way I don't apologize for the takeover of America by the whites from the Red Indians or the takeover of Australia from the blacks. It is natural for a superior race to dominate an inferior one.” - WINSTON CHURCHILL
When asked about Churchill following the riots and statue topplings after the George Floyd affair a prominent black activist and an advisor to the Met police replied with something along the lines of 'well I've never met him'. Says it all really.
Why doesn't the black guy leave Britain to a Afican country he likes and become their leader see how he does nobody stops him , if Churchill was not our leader in 1939 the Germans would be runing Britain dont think he would be be allowed to talk the rubbish, he would not be in our country.
Hitler and Mussolini were planning what they would do with the British colonies Mussolini was so sure of himself he had a grand building constructed to be his colonial HQ. The building is the HQ of the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organisation (FAO). 1:26 1:26
What like now? I would rather be speaking German (which would never have happened), than being forced to bow down to Allah in approximately 10 years. In hindsight it could be possible as George Patton said "We beat the wrong enemy" and hat we should have fought the communists. Hitler always wanted war with Germany to satisfy his banker paymasters and if you really want to know who started the war then investigate and read the headline on the Daily Express 24th March 1933, and then you might find out who really wanted Europe at war.
It's debatable, he cost a lot of people in this country their lives on behalf of international jews, which seem to hate the decendantrs of the very people that saved them and it appears Churchill was well aware that they had far bigger goals then what went down in ww2.
@@shadowbanned1999 There's a thread of truth in there, but only that. Hitler didn't expect the Brits and French to act when he invaded Poland, and when they did he expected to be able to force the British to accept a negotiated deal, as he did with the French. Ultimately, he wanted to push East, and did not want an open Western front at the same time. However, due to lack of naval and air superiority, he couldn't invade the UK, so he settled for a strategy of regular bombing and a fortified coast in France to hem the Brits in, hoping to keep them there till he won his war in the East, enabling him to gather enough resources to be able to turn his attention back to the British at a later date. In effect, he placed the British Isles under siege. So yes, it's true to say he didn't want to fight Britain, at that particular moment in time. He wanted them out of it so he could plunder Europe uninterrupted.
I would love if Rafe could get in touch with some TV/streaming producers and make a documentary about Winston Churchill. To show what the man stood for, what he did, why and how. Not just World War 2 but even his earlier and later years. I think there is a lot of misunderstanding, many misconceptions, myths and outright lies around the former prime minister.
My American, history loving ass will always respect Chruchill's Legacy. It's truly impossible for anyone today to properly understand the immense burden he faced. In just nine months time, he'd watched Nazi Germany triple it's territory. Defeat his closest ally outright and occupied it's country which was just a hop skip and away across the English Channel. Germany in a relatively short time had amassed the largest armed forces in the world and were now at his doorstep. This is the environment as he's taking office like wtf. In his first speech ever as prime minister he stood there and told the British people the truth no politicking, "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat." The British people owe this man untold gratitude for their liberty as does much of the world because as any historian knows; like Rafe and others have pointed out, without British blood, without the Battle of Britian; operation Barbarossa succeeds and Russia falls. The whole world looks much different today if that happens. A cherry-picked quote by an activist with an agenda will never erase the amount of good Churchill did for the world.
@@tommylee7684 im sure if the person debating was chinese the commentor would probably have replaced Africans with Chinese. I'm assuming but he probably wrote Africans just because the guy is black and would change it if he was anything else. Anyway good luck.
Churchill actually fought in battle against slavers with Kitchener to finally put an end to the legal trade in Africa. Something that none of his detractors can claim.
@@senorbarriga57 Yes, supposedly there are still around 40 million people in effective slavery right now. They may not have to stand on an auction block and get a bill of sale but they are slaves. Africa is supposed to have more slaves now than there were transported across the Atlantic in the 400 years of the Atlantic slave trade. The Atlantic trade only took a small faction of the available African slave.
Lol yeah, he was a humanist who cared a great deal about the plight of the colonized people he was over. If Churchill doesn't qualify as racist then nobody has even been racist
I've noticed a trend with a lot of people (especially in the woke culture) in quoting a single sentence of a speech, and then using it has their whole argument. Winston Churchill and Martin Luther Kings' rhetoric have been butchered in today's society using this practice. It's such a shame that people listen and don't bother to do their own research on it. Keep fighting the good fight, Rafe.
If you genuinely believe that Hitler was "left socialist", then you are even more politically illiterate than most other GB news viewers. Which is saying something.
Femi is not stupid. He is stuck in his fight to protect disadvantaged groups. This is, to follow Thomas Sowell, probably not the best method to achieve the desired goals.
@@elkiebeerepoot5829 no he is stuck in his fight to maintain victim status and to do so he must double down on a false narrative and remain willfully ignorant.
@richie66026 well said. Here here. I find it so sad though that Rafe would probably be dismissed/attacked by many if he were a white historian. Thank you Rafe. Please educate those ignorami.
I hope there are more than Rafe & Dr. David Starkey, (where has he gone?), who really know our history and who can defend it against the lies and manipulations of these race haters?
Better to hear them speak and refute their ridiculous ideas out in the open, then to stifle them and never hear what they say. That's exactly what they want. Why play their game?
My mother said that during 1940 and all the bad news surrounding the events of Dunkirk and the fall of France, everyone was frightened about an imminent invasion. Churchill’s speeches lifted us out of despair and inspired the belief that Britain could stand alone.
Britain didnt stand alone. But by choosing to stand their ground and fight Britain was able to give a path for allied forces to exist and a key position to launch the offensive from.
Yet the Germans did not destroy the British military at Dunkirk even when they had the upper hand. If they wanted total domination like propaganda says they should've destroyed Britain at Dunkirk.
What's more sickening is that the activist's attitude is not far-off from the altitude of the people who got rid of Churchill as prime ministers. After WWII and the reconstruction of the world, most of parliament was replaced with bleeding heart liberals who condemned Churchill as a warmonger and ungratefully removed him from position, and despite everything he did for the country, they treated him like how these woke lefties are treating him now.
@@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR Agree, but folks forgot what happened after WW1. They ignored Churchill's role in leading us up to WW2. Churchill was man of evil, pure evil....The only difference between him and Hitler, was the mustache!
As an American, I've always had a great respect for Britain and have visited several times. However, Britain is rapidly changing and not for the better. The same thing is happening here in the states. The left is taking over control and the freedoms that both countries fought for so valiantly to protect is WW2 are being taken away. It's happening a bit at a time, so the people continue to accept incremental the loss of freedoms and continue to vote into power those who are diminishing freedom. Just like putting the frog in water and letting it gradually come to a boil. By the time the frog realizes the danger, it's too late.
Nonsense. A dreadful war monger funded by Zio international finance. We should never ever of declared war on Germany as it was heading East completely in the opposite direction to us. Germany v ruthless Stalin and Communism was always going to kick off, we didn't need to get involved. We lost the Empire, lots of the greatest generation and bankrupted ourselves to America, international finance and the Globalisation project. All our problems today flow from that war.
@TheSealOfTheRose Ismail Haniyeh and his goons have pilfered the $4.5 billion intended to relieve Gaza. They are living like Sultans in Dubai hotel suites and no doubt amusing themselves with a peek at what Fatima has going on under her 7 veils.😉
@@TheSealOfTheRosethe majority of Palestinians are poor! Literally tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians have been killed by the indiscriminate bombing of IDF forces
The only people to have a UN agency only for them, with leaders that have net worth of billions, and for 75 years woke up and chose violance. Very "poor" indeed.
Dreadful war monger, captured by Zio international finance. We should never ever of declared war on Germany as it was heading East completely in the opposite direction to us. Germany v ruthless Stalin and Communism was always going to kick off, we didn't need to get involved. We lost the Empire, lots of the greatest generation and bankrupted ourselves to America, international finance and the forces of open borders Globalisation. All our problems today flow from that war.
The only reason we can have these conversations is because of Winston Churchill. I have no idea if he had racist thoughts or carried out racist acts - but given he (pretty much alone at times) held my grandparents generation together in a fight against pure evil - I would forgive him if he did.
I'm American. Will you lend us Rafe for awhile? I consider myself a leftie, but I am drawn to Rafe's and Douglas Murray's views on mass migration, reparations, and Islam. I am realizing more and more that I am not as left as I thought.
Churchill was not perfect by any means, a terrible intriguer, woeful would be general but he was absolutely the right man at the right time in 1940, inspired a nation to stand against fascism . Arguably inspired enough to save the world.
In the last ten years an British educator asked her teenage students who Churchill was. 40% thought it was an animated bulldog that advertised an the insurance company of the same name@@eleri7024
It reminds me of people comparing footballers of old to modern day. When it was okay for physical contact, drinking after a game and no VAR, the pitches were mud pits etc. It's two different sports under the same name by this point. What happened in those games in the 40's can't be judged to todays rules. I'd love to see Rafe do a nice long break down of all these points, with a nice history lesson of the context.
@@tecumseh4095we love them. That's why we love him. I dislike him for his part in ww2 and helping destroy Europe, but his views on race were brilliant
I m italian , but at the same time, i know history , Churchill has been probably the gratest politician and prime minister of the las century. I have read his books on the second WW and i have read lot of books on the matter , and i can say that we european and most of the world must tanks him to have opposed Hitler and his governement. If it was not for his stubbornes and the fact that he undestood , very well ,Hitler and decided to oppose hit whatever the cost , the european history would have taken a very grimm road.
Britain made most of the important industrial advances that brought about the modern world but, my God, Italy is surely the greatest nation in the world in terms of culture, art, architecture. The Trevi fountain, Micheal angelos works, so much. I love the passion of the Italian people. Even to pick one more modern item which I'd say encapsulates Italy in an object, for instance, a ferrari 250 gto, no other nation can make such beauty. Each European country has something to be proud of, it would be a crime to let it all be subsumed by the plague of humanity sweeping over and engulfing it. Best Wishes from Great Britain.
@RIbigDave me too. To better understend him i have taken his books on the II WW in the original languace . And i liked it. Now i m tinking to buy his book on hia ancestor John Churchill.
I'm a Russian and I think that Churchill was the greatest strategic and political mind in British modern history. I read his books and speeches and I think his actions against Hitler were effective and necessary. And I don't think any African immigrant has a right to denigrate and slander British history. This black man should concentrate on his own African history
You mean well meaning but selectively knowledgeable and culturally uninformed right? Just as we strive today to understand other people's actions through their cultural lense as well as our own...we must view the actions and recorded words of historical figures through the cultural lense of the time and place they lived. And remember there has never been a perfect human bring and therefore no hero is perfect viewed under a microscopic lense. And FEMI as all woke are revealed these days as being just an unveilled (before Oct 7 I would have said thinly veiled) and insidious example of racist and antisemite.
but do we have any more. Dr. David Starkey is old and I haven't seen any younger historians who can hold these nasty chancers in check? I need to brush up on history. Amazing how the left never call their own racists.
He sure got his behind reamed right there. And he still wanted to get the last word in despite his argument clearly being FUBAR. What a professional victim.
As a Yank it is stunning to me the UK is even having this debate. He was one of the great world figures in history and stood alone against the Nazi menace.
If anyone of African heritage ever starts this kind of nonsense just mention Liberia and walk away. A cursory glance into that particular country’s history is illuminating regarding the “African condition” to say the least.
@@dotenksYou miss the point old chum. Haile Selassie claimed to be caucasion, presumably he did this so that he could continue with the slavery of other Africans. Quotes can be taken out of context, especially when they are from a completely different era.
@@dotenks Who fucking cares if he was or wasn't racist? What he did for Great Britain and the world cannot be denied. Nobody HAS to like every other race....who gives a shit?
“I do not apologize for the takeover of the region by the Jews from the Palestinians in the same way I don't apologize for the takeover of America by the whites from the Red Indians or the takeover of Australia from the blacks. It is natural for a superior race to dominate an inferior one.” - Winston Churchill
when rafe speaks i feel so proud to be british he comes across so strong in what hes saying and to the point Churchill will always be a hero to me and i do educate my kids who are mixed race that history no matter bad or good is very important how will we ever do better if we dont learn from our past
look at the meltdown the left had when the government tried to deport those Jamaican criminals. You'd think they'd be wanting them to leave such a hideous country as ours ?
Racism is past! What about sexism????Why they don' t talk about women discrimination in Africa, South América, Ásia, Oceânia and in special...islamic countries???? Slavery of women, prostitution, etc😢
It’s unfortunate we have to continue to have these discussions with the intellectually unarmed race hustlers about history - Netflix docuseries on WWII with actual footage and facts for those who choose not to read supports everything Rafe is communicating
Wow, Femi the epitome of ignorance and Rafe, the absolute epitome of not only brilliance but also of common sense. Rafe , thank you for having the patience you have when speaking to someone who hasn't got a bleeding clue
I’m American. Churchill standing up to the Nazis allows this jag off on the right of the screen TO SAY WHAT HE’S SAYING. Here’s a quote this guy should hear. Joe Louis, the BLACK boxing champion enlisted in WWII. When asked “why would you do that for America?” Joe Louis said “there’s lots of things wrong with America, but Hitler ain’t gonna fix them.”
Rafe!! You are a legend been watching a lot of your videos and they are all so good. One point I did notice, I never thought about before is the fact in history in school I was never taught anything about black people in the world wars.
