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Historian Reveals Who The Man In The Iron Mask Likely Was 

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In the late 17th century, during the glorious reign of Louis XIV, the Sun King, France was at its apogee, with royal absolutism at its zenith. But, beneath the gold and glamour of Louis’ reign, there lay a terrifying darkness: a prison system into which people could be disappeared without a trace. And at the very heart of this darkness there lurked an excruciating secret…a prisoner, his terrible crime unknown, moved from prison to prison, forbidden to speak, and whose face was encased at all times in a mask of steel. Who was he, if he even existed at all? An English spy? Louis’ long-lost father, driven into obscurity? Or, even more threateningly, his twin brother?
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@nomorephones
@nomorephones 6 месяцев назад
"D'artagnan is basically an hired Goon", "That's a poor conduct even for a Frenchman"... cracked me up.
@louisdaillencourt2454
@louisdaillencourt2454 5 месяцев назад
In keeping with the general anti-french sentiment of the pod. Love the pod. Love the jokes. Still. Their dislike is often quite evident. As a French Brit (we exist) - saddens me.
@nomorephones
@nomorephones 5 месяцев назад
@@louisdaillencourt2454 They are just messing. They seem to adore French culture.
@d.c.8828
@d.c.8828 4 месяца назад
​@@louisdaillencourt2454 I believe it is a British national obligation and duty to the English crown. 👑
@eshaibraheem4218
@eshaibraheem4218 Месяц назад
​@louisdaillencourt2454 Perhaps you have missed out on the irony in your British blood. You should be laughing, Louis
@eshaibraheem4218
@eshaibraheem4218 Месяц назад
​@@d.c.8828 At the very least.
@pauld4992
@pauld4992 5 месяцев назад
The theory i read somewhere is that the man in the iron mask was the stud recruited to impregnate the queen ... then, when louis xiv started growing up it became very obvious that he was the spitting image of said stud ... so then that is why he was forced to hide his visage forever ...
@Spruce-Moose
@Spruce-Moose 6 месяцев назад
Awesome that you're back to RU-vid
@JJ_hehehehehe
@JJ_hehehehehe 6 месяцев назад
So glad the algorithm brought your channel to me. Been binging the last couple days. Keep up the good work fellas!
@MsMagdalena71
@MsMagdalena71 6 месяцев назад
Dominic should read audiobooks!
@eshaibraheem4218
@eshaibraheem4218 Месяц назад
With Tom laughing in the background.
@TheAnadromist
@TheAnadromist 6 месяцев назад
Many years ago as a young child my mother took me to see the Hammer Horror version of the Phantom of the Opera. The mask in that one was scarier than the actual disfigurement makeup. Later I ran across a Classic Comics version of The Man in the Iron Mask. I was so afraid to read through it because I thought is was a Phantom of the Opera type of story. Then I was confused when I leafed through the pages. Because I couldn't find the horror. But I knew it had to be there. So I left it on the rack. Many horror films later I realized that I was conflating the two sets of imagery. And yet there is indeed something quite chilling when you think of a man forced to wear an iron mask all of his life. It's a subtler, sadder, colder, chill. Such is history...
@unbabunga229
@unbabunga229 6 месяцев назад
And he wasn’t allowed to talk to anyone, must have gone totally mental
@Perizada
@Perizada 2 месяца назад
Being forced to serve as a valet could have been another form of punishment. Somebody of high status being forced to work as a servant just adds to the prisoners humiliation
@tesserakt54
@tesserakt54 5 месяцев назад
Oliver Reed played Athos.
@rosemcguinn5301
@rosemcguinn5301 6 месяцев назад
One question keeps coming up for me: If he wasn't of royal blood, why didn't they simply have him killed? Make it appear to have been an accident or have him poisoned? That is the missing piece of the puzzle here for me.
@richardcameron3762
@richardcameron3762 5 месяцев назад
Perhaps him being a double agent they couldn’t figure out if he was working for the English or the Dutch. So perhaps he was kept alive incase a future negotiation with the English/Dutch he could be used as a barter chip. What was in his head was worth something. Maybe 🤷‍♂️
@danMdan
@danMdan 3 месяца назад
He was not killed because Louvois had previously used Eustache to attempt to kill by poison his then enemy Colbert. So Louvois on his own authority had him imprisoned for life, but could not bring himself to order his death. So he used a pre signed arrest warrant to have Eustace D.arrested and hauled well out of the way to Pignerol, and promised Eustache his life if he kept his mouth shut. Since Eustache indeed was a criminal poisoner he was content to trade his freedom for a prison life. Hence the security but no execution.
@Perizada
@Perizada 2 месяца назад
He knew something and/ or was somebody of great importance
@blackcat2628zd
@blackcat2628zd 2 месяца назад
I think he was of royal blood. Or maybe man of cloth?
@theirishantiquarian2363
@theirishantiquarian2363 6 месяцев назад
Loving the videos. So much more accessible
@PaulSmith-ju3cv
@PaulSmith-ju3cv 5 месяцев назад
The solution sadly doesn't pass the "Why not just bump him off / Just make it look like an accident D'Artagnan?" test.
@charliesinnott9840
@charliesinnott9840 6 месяцев назад
Seeing them is epic... known voices only for years...
@eshaibraheem4218
@eshaibraheem4218 Месяц назад
Now, I shall always think of Theo and Porthos as being one and the same (and therefore real). This was wonderful. Many thanks.
@fishbone2921
@fishbone2921 6 месяцев назад
I enjoyed this so much. Thank you.
@martiwilliams4592
@martiwilliams4592 3 месяца назад
Very interesting! Thank you!
@lyndsayeccleston1998
@lyndsayeccleston1998 5 месяцев назад
He was a valet….who looked very similar to Louis XIV, which would expose Louis XIII as not his real father, and threaten his legitimacy to the throne. The special treatment was due to the fact it was his real half brother. Thats my theory anyway 😮
@sallyinoz
@sallyinoz 3 месяца назад
such and interesting tale. I had no idea he was real. Thank you for a wonderful look through history
@HonkerTonic
@HonkerTonic 5 месяцев назад
Oliver Reed was Athos
@johnhaynes9910
@johnhaynes9910 6 месяцев назад
Another cracking yarn :)
@juanfervalencia
@juanfervalencia 2 месяца назад
Fantastic
@ttt2080
@ttt2080 6 месяцев назад
This whole story is very Game of Thrones-ish, mysterious prisoners, secret children, palace intrigue, international wars.
@user-te4of2fq5d
@user-te4of2fq5d 6 месяцев назад
I take small issue. Thrones is very Dumas like ! Three Musketeers AND Count of Monte Cristo, so many ! Victor Hugo's work, and Don Quixote, shelves of different authors, each with an eye for telling a great tale. All this original material, many authors having lived lives as colorful, if not moreso, than their characters. Then... the 1st rock star.. Byron..whose wife in the early 1800s said he is "mad, bad and dangerous to know" she really is - a " fine" one, his life so outrageous, original and he so genius he makes Jim Morrison and River Phoenix look like 2 sopranos in the Vienna Boy Choir and his daughter, dear God a gene pool so filled with talent it requires its own train, a mathematician and truly invents writing code while she seduces some pre tee wild and unusual characters. and WHAT?? A tv serial stuns a Covid zoned public who almost immediately fall into Mass Stockholm Syndrome, their captors a coupla B list Hollywood producers and a streaming service. The poor prisoners unfamiliar with characters and storylines far more well drawn sitting in quiet shelved rooms waiting for them
@MrAgonizomai
@MrAgonizomai 5 месяцев назад
Surely it’s a case of, which came first? Game of Thrones builds on all kinds of weird and wonderful history and legend from across the world, set in a world that draws on history and fantasy fiction. It’s GOT that is derived, not this story, though the legends around it are both creative and probably also derivative.
@lukemedlicott3648
@lukemedlicott3648 5 месяцев назад
No game of thrones is based on the wars of the roses hun
@lukemedlicott3648
@lukemedlicott3648 5 месяцев назад
​@@user-te4of2fq5dliterally not at all
@eshaibraheem4218
@eshaibraheem4218 Месяц назад
Here, here!​@@user-te4of2fq5d
@paullewis2413
@paullewis2413 2 месяца назад
Really enjoyed this discussion. I have always thought this story was fiction however it appears to have historical attributes. I recently read Tom Holland’s book “Persian Fire” he makes historical subjects come alive.
@bengray4149
@bengray4149 Месяц назад
History & fiction making very strange bedfellows, with Mr Holland's uniquely camp take on the MITIM.
@malvanlondon8683
@malvanlondon8683 11 дней назад
Where can I stream that excellent old documentary on this subject presented by Henry Lincoln?
@kriss2111
@kriss2111 5 месяцев назад
I thought the story was written about the authors father who was imprisoned for a number of years Italy. General Alexander Dumas.
@davidbarrass
@davidbarrass 6 месяцев назад
If it was a valet, why not just bump him off? Maybe he witnessed something and that witness was of value, e.g. blackmail, maybe even Charles II (attending mass would be pretty juicy). But then why was the mask necessary? If you were blackmailing someone wouldn't you want it to be known to your victim that your witness was ready to speak at anytime? Maybe the mask was symbolic, "toe the line or I'll unmask my witness". As such it would be a message to someone rather than being about the prisoner. Possibly the identity was kept secret after his death to keep the victim on the hook. I can enjoy speculation as much as Dumas and Voltaire 🙂
@bookaufman9643
@bookaufman9643 5 месяцев назад
I'm only 2/3 of the way through but my guess is that it would have been the former head of finances. I don't know if he's even going to be set up as a candidate but it seems like he was made to disappear and he was a nobleman. For all I know he died in jail but I'm just saying...
@hilaryc8648
@hilaryc8648 4 месяца назад
Be funny if behind the mask it was just some bloke with a wooden head.
@Johnconno
@Johnconno 5 месяцев назад
It was Oliver Reed .
@Andrinni0
@Andrinni0 6 месяцев назад
it was louis real father...therefor the miracle but a dna test of louis the xiii and xiv would solve the mistery
@tropics8407
@tropics8407 6 месяцев назад
👏👏👏👏
@spankflaps1365
@spankflaps1365 6 месяцев назад
Black (cloth) hoods were used for hangings, and occasionally during prisoner transfers, for prisoners who were likely to escape (so they didn’t know where they were). This is probably what Voltaire saw, and he turned it into a fantastical myth.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy 6 месяцев назад
Most bestest kitschy 90's movie.
@TEMindset83702
@TEMindset83702 5 месяцев назад
Also the tv movie version starring Richard Chamberlain and Jenny Agutter.
@blackcat2628zd
@blackcat2628zd 2 месяца назад
It was a movie movie 😄. I saw it a couple of times in cinema. Beautiful.
@Mute_Nostril_Agony
@Mute_Nostril_Agony 6 месяцев назад
Definitely Kendo Nagasaki
@martiningle5970
@martiningle5970 4 месяца назад
You can pretend all you want, but anyone who claims they're not thinking of the theme tune to Dogtanian And The Three Muskerhounds, is lying.
@louisduplessis2075
@louisduplessis2075 4 дня назад
The jailer is not a key player...bit of an unintended pun.
@TEMindset83702
@TEMindset83702 5 месяцев назад
See the 1939 movie starring Louis Hayward and Joan Bennett.
@hilaryc8648
@hilaryc8648 6 месяцев назад
Nothing happened did it?
@blackcat2628zd
@blackcat2628zd 2 месяца назад
Isn't cardinal Mazarin father of Louis XIV?
@lloydgush
@lloydgush 5 месяцев назад
Mustache dugè? Is that the name?
@daverigby23
@daverigby23 4 месяца назад
Eustache
@danMdan
@danMdan 3 месяца назад
Eustache Dauger, (or possibly d'auger, or d'anger, or Danger) The spelling on the actual document is unclear.
@thanksfernuthin
@thanksfernuthin 4 месяца назад
I don't think it's necessary to leap to Voltaire lying. If there's lying being done it's likely from the prisoners and guards trying to tell an interesting story. And... maybe he was a valet but he was a dead ringer for the king. Maybe they shared the same father. That would be a reason for a mask. Also, I wouldn't think the lack of an order to put him in a mask disproves anything. They did still talk to each other back then. "Hey... put him in a mask."
@jonhelmer8591
@jonhelmer8591 6 месяцев назад
How did he shave?
@rosenightingale7716
@rosenightingale7716 6 месяцев назад
He must have developed a massive beard? Probably very itchy in the mask too!
@MrAgonizomai
@MrAgonizomai 5 месяцев назад
Even more basic: how did he even eat?
@lloydgush
@lloydgush 5 месяцев назад
Likely the mask was removed periodically for eating and other stuff.
@blackcat2628zd
@blackcat2628zd 2 месяца назад
​@@MrAgonizomaiIt's described in this podcast 😄
@blackcat2628zd
@blackcat2628zd 2 месяца назад
He didn't
@jacobhammock3355
@jacobhammock3355 6 месяцев назад
Wasn't it Louis in the mask?
@nadinehawkins6420
@nadinehawkins6420 6 месяцев назад
That's what I thought.
@nadinehawkins6420
@nadinehawkins6420 6 месяцев назад
Where did I get that?
@jacobhammock3355
@jacobhammock3355 6 месяцев назад
@@nadinehawkins6420 i think from the movie lol
@jaffa7243
@jaffa7243 Месяц назад
If the prisoner was a threat to Louis XIV, why didn't they just kill him?
@CommieGobeldygook
@CommieGobeldygook 2 месяца назад
Mustache Dog?
@blackcat2628zd
@blackcat2628zd 2 месяца назад
Isn't cardinal Mazarin father of Louis XIV?
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