Excellent video and so good to see traditional Taekwon-Do displayed rather than the pathetic theatrics that has become the norm due to its inclusion in the Olympics. I study Wado Karate and am dismayed that the traditional art is being eroded in the same way as a result of attempts to gain inclusion into the Olympics.
boxing was watered-down and there's deaths in usa boxing a Olympic sport. If you do Taekwondo karate kung fu without safety rules it would be too dangerous health is first second self defense Third Base Sports what is the educational system
About to get my orange belt in ITF-style TKD (not an ITF school, but they teach their forms) and so far I’ve learned do san! A couple very slight differences from the one here, but I suppose that can be expected after 50+ years. I’m also a brown belt in Ryukyu Kempo, and I Love seeing the old school stuff! Old school taekwando and tang soo do is where it’s at tho!
5 minutes in and i'm wondering, where did most of these go? i sure don't remember learning these and this was me in korea... how things have changed...
To people who say TKD is just karate, karate is literally based off of kung fu from china. Karate was called "chinese hand" before the kanji was changed.
And taekwondo is based off of Tang Soo Do (which means "Chinese hand way"), which is based off of shotokan karate. Shotokan, founded by the guy who replaced "Chinese" with "empty" in the name and who basically stripped all Chinese influence from his art.
Does anyone have any footage of Choi Hong Hi giving a demonstration, sparring, breaking or performing high level patterns? All the footage like in this video are other people doing the demonstration and the only footage I can find of Choi is him making minute corrections to other people’s patterns.
All the Taekwondo practitioners thank you !! for posting this martial arts video World Taekwondo Federation member and supporters of USA Taekwondo and amateur athletic Union Taekwondo USA. No Electronic scoring system good old fashioned paper and pencil scoring system I'm assuming those are bamboo chest guards. if you don't punch correct or kick incorrect you can break your foot or hand on those bamboo chest guards
Both major styles of Taekwondo WTF and ITF are solid and realistic. Taekwondo at the end of the day is one art. Sure you may not always like the rules at a tournament but a practitioner if well trained can always defend themselves.
@@monkeyzx9 wrongly is the word,not wrong and I only trained ITF for 12 yrs 9 of those at black belt and was on the irish team in 2 tkd organisations. Afterwards,I started thaiboxing and mma but never fought pro rules.All tkd is nonsense in terms of selfdefense ,its benefit is health and social interaction and a fun sport if you compete ,itcompletely ignores effective self protection despite advertising it.I went to several seminars with gen choi,park jing tae and master rhee and all were useless in terms of instruction for combat.
@@scarred10 Let’s not go down the grammar route when you can’t find the space bar. You got your black belt in under 3 years? Where from? Sports direct? It’s no wonder you find its application useless. I also trained and graded under Grandmaster Choi Jung Hwa. This could explain why when Team GB came to Dublin to compete against Team Ireland we won. Although, when I was part of Team GB in South Korea at the world championships, I did see many questionable practitioners who clearly don’t understand the true applications of techniques. It does however depend what your instructor focuses on, mine was always focused on self defence first, sport was way down the list. I must add that Master Wheatley was an incredible host and I enjoyed my time in Ireland immensely.
This historical video is a very good material to understand how ITF has developed. But do anyone know which specific year was this film taken? I want to know because I’m now learning Taekwon-Do in a Dojang. However it’s not an ITF dojang but our instructors teaches ITF tuls (without sinewave, and also some other detail movements different). They said what they taught was the original 1970s style. I’m confused and curious about how 1970s style actually look like?? If anyone has any ideas about this, please kindly leave a comment, thank!
Stella Tang hi Stella, this is what you would call 1960-1970s style, very karate influenced movements with lots of hip twist and turning away prior to blocking for extra power. Patterns performed quickly with no pausing to accentuate the movement. Kicking very snappy which is similar to Shotokan
Looked like shotokan with fancier kicks. It's the style I was taught in the 80's. Back then it was also referred to as Korean karate. Slide side kick, spin kicks added... but not acrobatic like the Olympic style. It was a bit more aggressive than Japanese karate.
It is simple, the ITF (International Taekwondo Federation) style is the original, since crhonologically was founded first, in March 22 1966, and it was not until 1973 that actually WTF style (World Taekwondo Federation) was founded. That was after General Choi left South Korea in the context of political unrest under General Park, and Choi also took the ITF to Canada. However in South Korea needed the TKD and some black belt men decided to fund WT. This is also the reason why the WT official website ommits mentioning Choi at any point, actually do not recognise him as the founder and fails to explain the origins of TKD. In fact Choi defined WT, and other schools as ''imitations of the real TKD, which copied the name of the martial art but are completely modified and therefore are other martial art different from TKD''. And i would like to clarify something. People say this or that TKD was more like the original that was like Karate or was characteristic for this or that. Anyone who ever read the TKD encyclopedia or/and the official website, which are the only two recognised sources written and aproved (it's not all the same for the reasons I mentioned before) you will find that Choi practised Karate Shotokan in 1930's during his travel to Japan, eventually becomng 2nd degree, and also practised Tae Kyon which of Korean ancient origin. If a movement in particular looks as Karate it is a remnant of that. But Choi himself in his 1997 encyclopedia explains that these were taken as a reference, but it is not a combination of them nor a simply accumulation, since Choi eventually included techniques during his military training that are TKD originals as well as scientific studies that guide each movement, an uniform speficic, combat rules different than any Karate and a system of philosophical guide that pick as models the characters of Ancient and modern Korea, as a way of guiding the conduct of the average TKD practicioner.
The style I learn (Rhee Taekwondo) is very similar. Master Rhee is very motivated in keeping the style in its traditional form, calling our patterns hyeong and other things like that.
Thanks for sharing Stephen! In Action, Kwanjangnim Sang Min Cho (9th Dan); The inductor of Taekwondo in Brazil and founder of Academia Liberdade Taekwondo in São Paulo.
Es el G.M Cho de Brasil? Excelente, este maestro fue enviado por el mismo Gral. Choi Hong Hi a enseñar en Brasil, y este documento debe ser uno de los videos que estaban en los DVD's que venían junto a la enciclopedia "Taekwon-Do, el arte coreano de la defensa personal" by Choi Hong Hi (escrita entre 1964 - 1978).
I loved my years of training in tkd,sang h kim instrucked me early on ,he brought misytisym, reality, and fun ,i was in 8th grade, went to tournaments, n such.. tkd was a great learning p.ate form for me since then i grew trued others.but tkd wtd style was awesome fou dation to grkw on much love
Modern TKD has barely none, if not not any grappling technics and almost no use for punching. I guess making it the nowadays sport changed the martial art.
I had a revelation while watching this video. The koreans weren't allowed to practice martial arts during the japanese occupation. This meant that nobody knew how to fight. Then some of them learned some karate in Japan , brought it back to the homeland after the War ended and started taekwondo. You can clearly see that none of these ppl know how to actually fight. This is so sad. I wasted many years of my life in taekwondo.
The 1999 edition of the Condensed Encyclopedia is the last work of General Choi. There are several updates to techniques in the condensed compared to the expansive set of encyclopedias. It has become the most up to date trusted source.
To add to what Stephen and Gamer have written, in addition to the full and condensed encyclopaedia by Gen Choi, I would add the current Kukkiwon textbook. Suggested as you used the spelling used by WT / Kukkiwon of taekwondo rather than taekwon-do.
General Choi is like the CEO of a tech company who says, “we should have touch screens on all our devices.” Then all the engineers and computer nerds actually make that happen, after which the ceo proudly proclaims, “I invented the touch screen!” Of course, to make that truly accurate you’d also have to posit a rival tech company that created their own touch screen and got it accepted into the olympics. 😛
(from my knowledge and experience in Taekwondo ITF) Honestly, I am a bit disappointed. Tull that we do now has a different technique to apply force. It looks, and it is, way more powerful than in the video. I didn't like the sparing neither, but I guess it was limited by the absence of equipment (gloves, etc.). In the video, they mostly used only kicks. That is even more disappointing. You can do insane combos by using punches between the kicks. It's a shame we almost don't have and don't practice throwings and locks. I think that if you combine tkd itf kicks in combo with punches, add boxing and judo throws, you will have everything necessary to defend yourself and others.
Before they messed up Taekwondo over political/ideological differences, between South/North Korea. The South's adoption of WTF Taekwondo rule set/their backward competition rules, which ruined the art worldwide. The original ITF version was, far more practical/realistic in unarmed combat, and transitioned far easier to full contact/K1 style, or the octagon, with the appropriate ground techniques incorporated. most WTF stylists have a long road to travel to learn how to box/use kicks effectively in real fighting, instead of the kick up, interrupt us, ballerina they are used to. I'll take a traditional IFT TDK fight any day over the WTF mess you see in the olympics. TKD/all traditional Japanese karate systems, need to drop the "open floor" format/move things on to the the ring. I have practiced both TKD systems, ok in my case, mostly MT in Thailand, however I started out with, with a BB in ITF, TKD, and this is my honest opinion.
Shotokan Karate didn't have kicks at the time, and Taekwondo used kicks from the beginning. The kick of Shotokan Karate was a late introduction of the savate kick.
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No existe "verdadero Taekwon-Do", todo Taekwon-Do es real, este video muestra la base del estilo, a medida que pasan los años las mismas técnicas son depuradas, y eliminados los posibles errores...
At the end of WWII Korea was left with many Shotokan schools across the country. They called it TKD after some changes. There's nothing traditional in TKD. Don't believe what you've been told in the last 60 years. It's called propaganda. In this video you can perfectly see how tkd is equal to Shotokan karate.
Yea it’s a lovely spin-off of karate and change the name and denied the roods and invented others only for nationalistic reasons. I think it would be more cool that they didn’t change the name and speak about Korean karate focused in kicking. I love taekwondo but my first love it’s the true
Karate is fundamentally a martial art without kicks. Karate is basically Wing Chun and now kickboxing. Taekwondo differs in that it uses kicks. The kick of Shotokan Karate is the Sabate kick, and Kyokushin Karate is a karate created by Koreans.
In its early days, Taekwondo had many similarities with karate. However, karate that only uses low kicks does not fit Korean sentiment. So Taekwondo was created again. Taekwondo is a martial art that uses kicks, and karate is a martial art that uses fists. Nowadays, Shotukan Karate has adopted the kicks of Sabate, but it is still a downgraded version of kickboxing.
@@가나다-p2s9d I'm a 3 rd dan WTF (stopped in 2005). Look at the poomses, they use punches heavily like Shotokan only that they have totally been made up in the 50's. Nothing traditional here at all. I've been also practicing Ip Man lineage WC for 18 years and it's got 0 similarities with Karate. Maybe some white crane ones, but the centreline theory quintessential to WC doesn't exist at all in karate.
@@가나다-p2s9d the same with the so called Hapkido which comes directly from the Takeda ryu Jujitsu like Aikido. A Korean child that served at the Takeda family during Japanese occupation learned by watching or practicing (we'll never know) and brought its version to Korea. TkD and Hapkido have nothing traditional at all. It's al Korean propaganda.
What a ripoff of karate. I've studied Taekwondo for years and then learned about Karate. I feel bad for Korea being under Japan's occupation for many years. But, you can clearly see that the pioneers of Taekwondo had learned Japanese Karate and molded it into something they created.
You are correct that the original pioneers of Taekwon-Do did indeed study Korean karate in their Kwans. Due to Japanese occupation all forms of Korean culture were repressed so after liberation they wanted something belonging to the Koreans. Therefore the change of name from Tang Soo Do to Taekwon-Do was proposed by the Founder General Choi.
Rather than thinking of TKD as a karate ripoff, just think of them all (WT/ITF/ChangHon) as different karate styles, the same as you would for kyokushin, wado, iishin etc
@@CardBoardKnights Karate doesnt kick that much its a mainly a fist art....lol And Savate got its kicking from Asian cultures as it was founded by french sailors during the colonial era where the french colonize South East Asia in the late 1700s-1800s.
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Куча ошибок, плохая техника ног, бла... бла... бла. Не читал энциклопедию taekwon-do. Но нужно помнить, что не было бы никакой энциклопедии тхэквондо, если бы не было этих людей. ОНИ делали то тхэквондо, на котором сейчас куча псевдо-мастеров делают деньги. Это история. Тхэквондо это живое искусство. Но чтобы иметь право судить или говорить на эту тему необходимо 8-10 часов в день носить до бок.
