History of Alsace 

Same here, except mine immigrated in the 1840’s to the upper part of Spencer County, Indiana.

"The forest was infested with bears and wolves, beasts he led a war against." The bears and wolves were living in the forest for a very LONG time before European beasts infested the Americas and slaughtered indigenous people and animals living there for thousands of years. The human infestation of planet Earth by humans, under the psychotic rule of the wealthiest men, has our planet on the precipice of irreversible climate change. I wouldn't brag about your ancestor moving onto what was Native American land stolen by white European invaders, clearing the land and "waging war" on the animals who had been living there. It is exactly that mindset that has led humanity to the brink of self-destruction and major damage to the Earth.

Mine, too. Proud of it.

My husband's 3rd or 4th great grandparents came from alsace france and ended up along the same route in the US around the same time

lovely greetings to all Alsace-descendants in the whole world ! Be glad, your ancestors emigrated in time ; they escaped 3 wars.. 1870-71, 1914-18, 1939-45.

@any web that's why they left the Alsace. My 4th Great Grandparents were born in 1800 and 1810, in the region known as "above the forest". (Seltz, Niederroedern, Oberroedern, Forsteld, etc.) Our family records indicate that Martin Sr. and Katherine Kocher (4th greats) did not want their sons conscripted into the French army. Even though the area was French ruled, they were German in heart, but that's the thing about the Alsace! They packed up and left Seltz in Nov of 1852 and arrived in New Orleans, Louisiana in March of 1853. They spent roughly 12 years in Stark County, Ohio until my 3rd Great Grandfather, Joseph, purchased property here in Southern Illinois in 1865 just the weeks before Lincoln was assassinated. We've been here since! (WIKIPEDIA) In response to the "hundred day" restoration of Napoleon I of France in 1815, Alsace along with other frontier provinces of France was occupied by foreign forces from 1815 to 1818,[31] including over 280,000 soldiers and 90,000 horses in Bas-Rhin alone. This had grave effects on trade and the economy of the region since former overland trade routes were switched to newly opened Mediterranean and Atlantic seaports. The population grew rapidly, from 800,000 in 1814 to 914,000 in 1830 and 1,067,000 in 1846. The combination of economic and demographic factors led to hunger, housing shortages and a lack of work for young people. Thus, it is not surprising that people left Alsace, not only for Paris - where the Alsatian community grew in numbers, with famous members such as Baron Haussmann - but also for more distant places like Russia and the Austrian Empire, to take advantage of the new opportunities offered there: Austria had conquered lands in Eastern Europe from the Ottoman Empire and offered generous terms to colonists as a way of consolidating its hold on the new territories. Many Alsatians also began to sail to the United States, settling in many areas from 1820 to 1850.[32] In 1843 and 1844, sailing ships bringing immigrant families from Alsace arrived at the port of New York. Some settled in Illinois, many to farm or to seek success in commercial ventures: for example, the sailing ships Sully (in May 1843) and Iowa (in June 1844) brought families who set up homes in northern Illinois and northern Indiana. Some Alsatian immigrants were noted for their roles in 19th-century American economic development.

"There is an EU wide program to encourage schoolchildren in border regions to learn the language of their neighbors." German as a foreign language is not a substitute for German as a mother tongue. In the past, France has done everything to extinguish the German language and the German identity of the inhabitants of Alsace and Lorraine. The current non -binding offer to learn German as a foreign language is only an alibi that is supposed to distract from the French menticide - the extinction of the German soul.

But it belongs to France!!

Their statement pretty much proves who Alsace belongs to

@@rudiechinchilla6746 C'est une réalité. Mais je doute que cette réalité soit également historiquement juste. L'Alsace était à l'origine une province allemande avec des résidents allemands. La France a violé cette province. Et ce n'est pas suffisant. La France a tout fait pour éliminer la langue allemande et l'identité allemande de ses résidents. Nous voyons le résultat aujourd'hui. Ses frères et sœurs alemanniques à l'est du Rhin ne peuvent plus communiquer avec la SLA. Alsacien: Commentaire ils ont tué l'allandand qui est en toi! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e1q4isn6-ga.html

@@rudiechinchilla6746 Yes, but not as legitimate property, but as the stolen goods.

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Sadly because the architecture is typically German, especially those beautiful German medieval timber frame houses in the Alcace-Lorraine area, which, in German was called Elsass-Lothringen.

You are twisting history. Switzerland, the Netherlands, Belgium and the entire east of what is now France were part of the East Frankish, later German Empire when the Frankish Empire was divided after the death of Charlemagne. Their inhabitants were mostly Germanic and they all belonged to the German-speaking community. It was only in the course of later history that the Netherlands and Switzerland separated from the rest of the German Empire. The Low German dialect of the Netherlands has since gradually become independent of the general German language. Alsace and Lorraine were gradually conquered and annexed by France after the Thirty Years' War (1618-48). Especially after the First World War, France forcibly Romanized the conquered areas. It pushed back and banned the German language and declared the inhabitants of these areas to be French. Palestine Song (a song by German crusaders in Middle High German) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rE05Q1w_SKE.html The history of England is different. The English are related to us Germans via the Angles and Saxons, who come from northern Germany. The English language has many similarities with the northern German dialects. But England was never part of the German Empire. Rolling Home, Rolling home, rolling home across the seas. (Hamburg sailor's song) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YJRxNhq0zVE.html

Do not forget Mittelschaeffolsheim 😅😂

C'est une réalité. Mais je doute que cette réalité soit également historiquement juste. L'Alsace était à l'origine une province allemande avec des résidents allemands. La France a violé cette province. Et ce n'est pas suffisant. La France a tout fait pour éliminer la langue allemande et l'identité allemande de ses résidents. Nous voyons le résultat aujourd'hui. Ses frères et sœurs alemanniques à l'est du Rhin ne peuvent plus communiquer avec la SLA. Alsacien: Commentaire ils ont tué l'allandand qui est en toi! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e1q4isn6-ga.html

@JNeace-uk8ue And before the French conquests under Louis XIV the Alsace of German for centuries. Even after the annexation by France, his inhabitants were German. The French have done everything to extinguish the German language and the German identity of its residents. But the German DNA remains.

@JNeace-uk8ue Part 1: We're talking past each other. Nation and the members of a state are not identical units. One of the nation includes everyone who is of the same origin and share the same language and culture. A nation does not depend on statehood. German settlers in Eastern Europe, in the Baltic States and Russia are also part of the German nation. The German nation is as old as the French nation. Both developed according to the division of the Franconian Empire. The different state structure does not change that either. The realm of Germans - more precisely: the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation - was a federal state. France, on the other hand, developed into a central state early on. The German nation has formed from the Germanic tribes of the eastern part of the Franconian Empire. This included the Franks, the Alemanni, the Bavarians, the Saxons, the fishing, the Frisians and the Thuringians. The Germanic tribes in other European countries are genetically related, but are not part of the German core family. The romanized Gauls, on the other hand, are strangers for us. Hymn of the so -called Danube Swabians 1st verse: Greetings to you, Watch up, it calls time! Let us boast, let us praise, Our people unity! We are sons of a people: German language, German species, Who kept up the fathers We have been faithful. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GjZDavFGFXY.html

@JNeace-uk8ue Part 2: The French nation is a construction of the Jakobiners. The French nationals are not related to Germanic genetics with the romanized Gauls. The DNA of French nationals with Germanic roots are related to us Germans. They belong to the Germanic family, even if the French nationalists want to persuade them. We are calling your wolves ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nFAuPlh49Cc.html

Yes.

Alsace is French.

There was a brief period of German occupation but historically it's an ethnic minority within France that speaks an Alemanii tongue. Not every Germanic tongue is from Germany.

​@@JohnDove-d8d Since the division of the Frankish Empire after the death of Charlemagne, Alsace was part of the East Frankish Empire, later the German Empire. In the 17th century, France took advantage of a period of weakness in the German Empire and invaded and annexed Alsace. After the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71, Alsace returned to Germany. The Alsatians are Alemanni, like the German-Swiss and the Badeners. The Alemanni are a core tribe of Germany. Their language is a German dialect. The Alsatians are not only genetically German, but also have a German identity, at least until the French violently destroyed the German language and German identity of the Alsatians. Alsace is now part of the territory of France. As a result, they are formally French today, but different from the rest of the French. At the time of the Crusader Song, not only Alsace, but also the entire east of France was part of the German Empire. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rE05Q1w_SKE.html

@JohnDoe2JohnDove You are distorting history. Alsace was part of the settlement area of ​​the Alemanni. Since the death of Charlemagne and the subsequent division of the Franconian Empire, the entire settlement area of ​​the Alemanni belonged to the East Franconian Empire, later Germany. The Alemanni are Germanic people and are therefore different from the Romanic people of the West Franconian Empire. Alsace was not annexed by Germany, but by France in the seventeenth century. The return of Alsace to the German Empire after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71 only corrected a historical injustice.

Luckily enough for most people in both France and Germany nowadays the old feuds between the two countries countries definitely belong to the past. Modern Alsace is a successful and peaceful meet and mix of French and Germanic cultures. For people interested in architecture, it's fun to have a walk in some areas of e.g. Strasbourg and find out which buildings were built by the French and which ones were built by the German, especially in the 19th century.