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History of Every K-Pop Scandal with SM Entertainment 

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When it comes to SM Entertainment, even as the biggest company in the KPop industry, they are no stranger to controversy and scandals either. Similar to the YG Scandal video I did, this video is a chronological snapshot of all the scandals that have occurred throughout the history of SMTOWN. Hope you all found this interesting! There was A LOT to cover lol.
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KPop Stars Songs, Music Videos (MV), Scandals (Alphabetically) Discussed:
EXO-M Members Kris, Luhan & Tao Lawsuit
H.O.T. Disbandment
Han Geng / Hankyun Lawsuit
Henry - Boycott and Protest with SM Stock & Shareholder
Jessica of Girls' Generation / SNSD "Kicked Out"
Jonghyun of SHINee's Suicide & Mental Health Awareness in regards to SM's treatment of artists
JYJ / TVXQ /DBSK Lawsuit
Kangin of Super Junior - Assault, DUI Hit-and-Run Charges
No Minwoo of TRAX Lawsuit
Onew of SHINee Sexual Harassment Charge
S.E.S. Love Ban with Blonde Hair
Shinhwa Departure & Lawsuit
Siwon of Super Junior's Dog Bite
SMROOKIES / Trainee Yu Zhi Underage Past
Sulli's Departure from f(x)
Sungmin of SuJu Marriage & Boycott / Protest
Taeyong of NCT / SMROOKIES Scamming Past
Wendy of Red Velvet Cases of "Racism" or "Being Racist and Offensive"
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@DareDB
@DareDB 5 лет назад
Hey friends! I finally got this video finished lol. There were A LOT! (And I'm sure I forgot a few here and there. Oh well) Again, this was not meant to drag the company or its artists. Thank you all for watching! Please do me a favor and hit those like, subscribe, and bell buttons for me! Much appreciated!
@ohanabii
@ohanabii 5 лет назад
@MochiBias awww haechan's makes me sad TT i hate thinking about it also i think taeyong's scandal was later proven false or something like a misunderstanding where the thing he sent became broken in the mail??
@meaghannemack82
@meaghannemack82 5 лет назад
Thank your for including Shinhwa!!! I wouldn't call their SM situation a scandal though. They decided to stay together instead of staying with SM and became the first idol group to leave their label as a group and continue to perform as a group. But I will agree it was shitty of SM to not offer Dongwan a contract when it ended. I mean, have you heard that man sing? He is a powerhouse unto himself.
@Kx____
@Kx____ 5 лет назад
i'm so sad you did not include victoria and changmin's spoon scandal though haha, that was GOLDEN
@jamesrawlins735
@jamesrawlins735 5 лет назад
No SNSD Black Ocean?
@dananovikova9609
@dananovikova9609 5 лет назад
@@Kx____ what? Spoon scandal? 😅 Can you please tell more about this? I've never heard of it
@cWjkL8ysxOkrH66
@cWjkL8ysxOkrH66 5 лет назад
sm: overwork yg: underwork jyp: overwork only for the ones who profit more
@riahlexington
@riahlexington 4 года назад
Wow. This is sadly so true.
@lifeaslexisaleh4941
@lifeaslexisaleh4941 4 года назад
@@waverton1234 but paid high so yg is better
@lifeaslexisaleh4941
@lifeaslexisaleh4941 4 года назад
Yg is better coz they prefer quality over quantity and they act and are models so fair
@captainbeidou
@captainbeidou 4 года назад
lifeaslexi saleh how yg is better ? When BP is treated like trash and 2ne1's disbandment issues ?
@hexawira7134
@hexawira7134 4 года назад
@@captainbeidou you know, when a group became popular, that means they're promoted really well, by just look to 2ne1 and blackpink popularity, that's mean YG promoted them really well even though YG like to put them in dungeon
@randyx5631
@randyx5631 5 лет назад
Omg Y’all better thank S.E.S. for allowing your faves to color there hair. God damn that’s crazy they got banned for being blonde
@peacebismynetworkid4426
@peacebismynetworkid4426 5 лет назад
Randy X Facts!!!!
@vivipopisinflopera
@vivipopisinflopera 5 лет назад
Stan S.E.S.
@ohhrreo
@ohhrreo 5 лет назад
S.E.S = Our real and only Queens
@nctsgrass
@nctsgrass 5 лет назад
@@abrahamcastellanos1807 maybe but they still paved the way for coloured hair in kpop
@leelim6556
@leelim6556 5 лет назад
oml but its so interesting that back then coloured hair was not allowed and nowadays idols are dying their hair in multi-colours every comeback ((r.i.p their scalp tho 😔✊😂))
@kittyelf1485
@kittyelf1485 5 лет назад
I will never understand the whole Sungmin thing. He got married, he didn’t kill anybody. And I’m also one of those people who always felt Henry and Zhoumi were just as much a part of SuJu as the rest of them.
@merc5333
@merc5333 5 лет назад
I know. It's human nature to want to be with someone. People wouldn't like it if their companies banned them from dating or marrying. You know why? Cause it's stupid. It's stupid and dumb to say Idol's can't date. They're humans, fans do not own them. If you don't like them dating, boohoo. Like.... It's insane. The lack of humanity in the korean music industry is insane.
@kittyelf1485
@kittyelf1485 5 лет назад
Megan Z I agree. I wish the companies would realize these, sometimes very young kids are people and need to be allowed to act like it. And they wonder why so many of them end up depressed or worse.
@shashachuu
@shashachuu 5 лет назад
Megan Z I'll never understand "fans" who boycott a group because one of the members is dating. As a fan aren't you supposed to be supportive? Aren't you supposed to see that the person who made YOU happy through their music is happy too with their lover? They'll never end up with them anyways. This is sick and twisted honestly.
@andredrw289
@andredrw289 5 лет назад
shashachuu it’s because the companies push out the image that idols are available to their fans so it’s gives them the mentality that they can be with oopa or unnie when they’re not
@irr1188
@irr1188 5 лет назад
the whole situation about sungmin is a big mess, both party handled it badly. The fans have no right about he geting married but the way he block them from his sns doesn't help either. It's not just about he is geting marriage, it's more about how he handled it. Man, like it or not announce your marriage before a group comeback is bad timing. I'm not supporting anyone in this case but I think we international fan should stop exaggerating that kelf are mad because he is married, it's not as simple as that. sorry for my bad english
@mijeoo4912
@mijeoo4912 5 лет назад
the whole Taeyong incident got debunked later though. Turns out it wasn't even true, and he apologized for something he didn't even do... smh
@dawn6525
@dawn6525 5 лет назад
neogotmytrash anytime i think about it makes me so sad, he didn’t do anything wrong yet he had to take the fall for it
@tylee7155
@tylee7155 5 лет назад
I hope this video explain it well..I don't want other people who doesn't know about this to misunderstood...I don't want Taeyong getting hate anymore...please ...
@ijustwantsomemilk8900
@ijustwantsomemilk8900 5 лет назад
what happened?
@arshiaden4170
@arshiaden4170 5 лет назад
How was it proved to be fake? I’m pretty sure SM would deny if it wasn’t true
@m_mmb
@m_mmb 5 лет назад
neogotmytrash it’s sad how korean people still to this day disregard NCT because of this (and because of their # of members) NCT had one of the best debut songs yet charted not so high :(
@lovcrime
@lovcrime 5 лет назад
Super junior has been through a lot of things...
@choberi
@choberi 5 лет назад
and a lot of scandals
@endlessjoy218
@endlessjoy218 5 лет назад
But still holding strong! "The last man standing!"
@kloudie99
@kloudie99 5 лет назад
Ikr...
@roxasthebandicoot4492
@roxasthebandicoot4492 5 лет назад
I agree the stuff with fans getting overly mad is ridiculous.
@chanceussery4090
@chanceussery4090 5 лет назад
They had the most members so it's only natural that they'd likely have a higher scandal mark lol.
@soniciris
@soniciris 5 лет назад
I don't know what pisses me off more, the Sungmin thing or the Henry thing.
@eggdrop194
@eggdrop194 5 лет назад
both, they're both fucking stupid. There were girls cutting themselves over Sungmin getting married
@divine5599
@divine5599 5 лет назад
Both
@parkchimmin7913
@parkchimmin7913 5 лет назад
Kat Elizabeth They need to seek therapy.
@internationallyhandsomeism3406
@@eggdrop194 That's the girls' fault obviously, all he did was get married which is the most natural thing to do in the world
@eyelandgal
@eyelandgal 5 лет назад
Sungmin's scandal was more than just about him getting married.
@dawn6525
@dawn6525 5 лет назад
Taeyong’s scandal was proved to be fake. He didn’t scam anyone but he had to apologise anyway.
@truthseeker8200
@truthseeker8200 5 лет назад
How are you so sure? He sure has changed but I'm pretty you are just saying that because you don't want him to get hate. No offense
@dawn6525
@dawn6525 5 лет назад
Voopi Doopi I understand why you doubt me bc I am their fan but I wouldn’t protect an idol if they really did something wrong. if you are interested there is more information and evidence to show that he didn’t scam anyone in this link www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/enter-talk-the-full-story-of-taeyongs-scamming-scandal.57619/
@apollonnike
@apollonnike 5 лет назад
@@truthseeker8200 It's proven. After the year their debut it has proven to be wrong but nobody cared as they cared when he was said to be guilty at first.
@fakeslacker7132
@fakeslacker7132 5 лет назад
I think it's horrible how SM didn't respond at all, Taeyong had to go through all that by himself even though there were multiple proofs of it being fake.
@QRQ18
@QRQ18 5 лет назад
theNCTzen Ikr😭 i feel bad for Taeyong hopefully he realises that nctzens are always here for him😔♥️
@melancholymercury
@melancholymercury 5 лет назад
I think I repressed how bad a year 2014 was for Kpop and SM lol.
@amandavincent5488
@amandavincent5488 5 лет назад
yep, all I hearing "2014"
@voo211
@voo211 5 лет назад
And 2014 a bad year in Korea generally... Sewol Accident, until today always make me sad for every lost soul and mad at Government at that time...
@ajbrown7912
@ajbrown7912 5 лет назад
Aisyah Humairah don’t forget about the LADIES’ CODE accident...2014 was just the worst year in KPOP...
@jeancharlotte6814
@jeancharlotte6814 5 лет назад
i remember that after jessica been force out news breakout, sm stock go down so low immediately
@eri6984
@eri6984 5 лет назад
Than you remember 2009 and you know that 2024 is going to be 😵
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
suju fans did sungmin wrong....yall were selfish for that. edit: exo fans who hating on chen yall wrong too
@heyyysjlikethis7187
@heyyysjlikethis7187 5 лет назад
I completely agree, he only fell in love ffs 😔
@hyunjinwillbethedeathofme1543
@hyunjinwillbethedeathofme1543 5 лет назад
they weren't real suju fans
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
@@hyunjinwillbethedeathofme1543 the thing that bothered me was sm held a full on public forum for the fans to discuss this like....way to feed tye delusion and ruin someone career
@Muslimwomenpower
@Muslimwomenpower 5 лет назад
sungmin knew the consequences so he should just deal with it lol
@ericalee711
@ericalee711 5 лет назад
@@Muslimwomenpower Yes, because he knew that still 5 years into the future fans would not support him despite his various explanations and apologies (which he shouldn't even need to issue). The man did nothing wrong, it's just entitled fans being upset because one member didn't act in a certain way they wanted him to.
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
About the Tao Payment thing. He tried to pay, but sm never gave him the routing number to the bank. THEY delayed in giving him the correct information on PURPOSE so they could make it look bad on him.
@plantadelbosque
@plantadelbosque 5 лет назад
WHAT?! I'm not really into EXO so I didn't even know this D: which year was this?
@bpcurry4143
@bpcurry4143 5 лет назад
@@plantadelbosque man they did him dirty like come on man s*** u can't do homie like that **** h*** ..they cut his salary cuz they know that homie daddy's is rich like rich asf lol like Tata the Indian dude fr tho
@plantadelbosque
@plantadelbosque 5 лет назад
@@bpcurry4143 That is why the no payment thing always was fishy. Tao doesn't have money problems so why not paying?
@karenli5811
@karenli5811 5 лет назад
I don’t really thinks so but believe what you want.
@rhiannajaquilmac2668
@rhiannajaquilmac2668 5 лет назад
That is scary
@milicadjordjevic4498
@milicadjordjevic4498 5 лет назад
K-netz are scary. Sungmin didn't deserve that. Why do they act so teritorial when it comes to groups/group members??? I just don't get their mentality...K-pop is now becoming even a bigger thing, and you have "fans" like this all over the world. Yikes.
@am-gg9vs
@am-gg9vs 5 лет назад
I know they didn't even think about him or his feeling like I know you love your group. But he's still a person
@milicadjordjevic4498
@milicadjordjevic4498 5 лет назад
@RAWAN ALMADI as long it's in their ("fans") convenience, they will support them. They are not real fans. It's all fantasy, imagination.
@CherryBun0325
@CherryBun0325 5 лет назад
Foobar there are some K-fans that still don’t want them back in the group..and on Naver, they were ridiculing I-ELF, calling them “foreigners” and insulting their intelligence for, “not knowing the whole situation.”
@eyelandgal
@eyelandgal 5 лет назад
It was more than him getting married, he disrespected fans by sneakily including his gf's name in his autograph and giving her gifts that he got from fans.
@skillbopster
@skillbopster 5 лет назад
Asians get fanatical about things. It's nothing new.
@musicismydrugxo8217
@musicismydrugxo8217 5 лет назад
I still find it so unfair that Taeyong is still receiving backlash for his 'scandal' even after it was proven that it wasn't actually true. SM forced him to apologize, even though he didn't even do anything wrong, and people still say he's a scammer and a bully. I'm not being a delusional fan but honestly anyone who knows even a little bit about Taeyong can see that he would probably never do something like that.
@musicismydrugxo8217
@musicismydrugxo8217 5 лет назад
@Mean Whale there's a difference between sm controlling their artists' bad habits and forcing him to apologize when it was proven that he didn't do it. This scandal still impacts the way people see Taeyong and it made him anxious and sad when he just debuted. He felt for a really long time that he was pulling his group back and i know that sm is just doing what they think is best for their artists but sometimes their solution is just not the good one in the long run
@angels1077
@angels1077 5 лет назад
@@musicismydrugxo8217 since no one is taking the blame and knetz are going crazy, if they just leave it, what do you think would happen? Probably no more career. Sometimes, saying sorry even it's not your fault just to please the people around you, especially you are an artist, you have to do it. Everyone's eyes are on you.
@musicismydrugxo8217
@musicismydrugxo8217 5 лет назад
@@angels1077 this is a very difficult situation, and i'm not saying that i know better than sm in this case but i just wish they would support their artist. Maybe im just too righteous or too honest...
@angels1077
@angels1077 5 лет назад
@@musicismydrugxo8217 in my opinion, I believe SM are supporting their idols and protecting them. If SM is not being supported, he has probably already gone from the group. SM should have banished him already. SuJu's Sungmin and Kangin, Kangin we all know that he has some problems. They didn't " get rid from the group ", they banished him because of his actions and it affected the entire group, by doing that, it will teach Kangin for what he has done and hopefully he learned something from his mistakes. Just recently, Kangin's name was brought up together with JJY's chatroom scandal, you probably heard about it. Label SJ is established by SM, it's still SM's. Sungmin, what is SM did to Sungmin is not just by protecting Sungmin, it's also protecting Sungmin's private personal life (his wife) And of course the group. Knetz, boycotted Sungmin if SM continues on putting him in the group, Knetz might boycott the WHOLE GROUP. Which is a very bad idea. Since, they are in a GROUP, SM also has to protect the group or the other members. At least SM is better when handling scandals, look at JYP's Hyuna, when they found out about her dating with E'Dawn they forced her to leave the company. Just because she's dating. Goodness.
@christabuki5459
@christabuki5459 5 лет назад
It’s true that the rumours were not true, but the messages of him using bad languages was actually proven to be true. So he probably apologised more for that than anything.
@orbitbella2335
@orbitbella2335 5 лет назад
the fact that the taeyong scandal was later proven to be a hoax and sm still made him apologise 🤢🤢🤢
@Tingling10
@Tingling10 5 лет назад
RAYNER Sometimes idols are forced to apologize for things that they did not do wrong. A NMB48 ex-member was forced to apologize although she was a victim to 2 men attack, and one of her members leaking her private things.
@lovelydiva06
@lovelydiva06 4 года назад
The scamming thing was but not the bullying
@ppfle
@ppfle 3 года назад
Bro if sm didnt force him to do that yall toxic fans would cancel him. They basically protecting his career 🤷🏻‍♀️
@shiningksg
@shiningksg 5 лет назад
You did not include Irene reading a book about feminism that caused male fans to boycott her and burning Irene's merch. Edit: Yes, this is not actually a “scandal” but it became an issue. I still don’t get when some people in Korea feel bad or something about feminism.
@bpcurry4143
@bpcurry4143 5 лет назад
@@enviisyk nah Red velvet don't have white male fans, they only have ugly nerd asian boi that love em coz of theirs visual not for singing abilities 😂 😂.. U can see that nerd Asian boi at their fans meeting 😂 😂
@azhash2781
@azhash2781 5 лет назад
@@enviisykit wasn't white male fans doing the bashing but the Korean men. Feminism has a very negative image in Korea because of the crazy extremist feminists who go around attacking innocent men solely for being a man (they don't believe in equality but more in the "all men are spawns of satan and must die" mentality). Irene got hate because of the stigma attached to being a feminist in Korea
@tdelioncourt1268
@tdelioncourt1268 5 лет назад
I can't wait for the movie to come out, I really want to know the story of this book now.
@Claire-tq2dm
@Claire-tq2dm 5 лет назад
Gosh i dont even get why people hates feminism its just women wanting equal power as men and have their voices heard
@shiningksg
@shiningksg 5 лет назад
BP Curry excuse me, for their “visuals” ? Have you heard any of their side tracks/ b-sides, live performances? You can talk about Red Velvet’s skills as an artist when you’re done listening to their discography. I guess you’re one of the “listening to title tracks only” person.
@comeover99
@comeover99 5 лет назад
These are crazy but I think Seungri's crime alone simply swallow all these scandals of SM.
@Sunflower-gl4jj
@Sunflower-gl4jj 5 лет назад
💀
@brittanyrenee2209
@brittanyrenee2209 5 лет назад
What crime are you talking about?
@Sunflower-gl4jj
@Sunflower-gl4jj 5 лет назад
@@brittanyrenee2209 his club scandal...you can google it if you're interested lol
@brittanyrenee2209
@brittanyrenee2209 5 лет назад
@@Sunflower-gl4jj But the op said his "crime" and that's not accurate since there has been no evidence against him? There are so many people getting the facts mixed up because they just read headlines and then they go post about it when they really don't know what's going on.
@internationallyexquisite3830
@internationallyexquisite3830 5 лет назад
Nctvelvet for life seungri* and no the scandal started because burning sun used him as the face of the company not the other way around. don’t insult us reveluvs and nctzens by sounding stupid on something you don’t understand.
@maraross5449
@maraross5449 5 лет назад
so basically S.E.S paved the way AGAIN with beauty standards
@jeffybalpier7334
@jeffybalpier7334 5 лет назад
ses paved the way kpop for dyed hair.
@TaniaMitsu
@TaniaMitsu 5 лет назад
I don't know if Jonghyun's should have been mentioned in the video. I understand what the point was, the fact that SM was blamed for how he treats his artists regarding the subject of depression, but as far as is known, SM never pressed Jonghyun with his SHINee/solo activities or suppressed him with respect to his treatments, just for give an example. SM is a crap of company, there isn't doubt about it, but I don't see the meaning to relate it to what happened to Jjong. The subject of depression is something too big, it's not only in the music industry, in almost all of Korea (as a many others countrys) it isn't given the importance that it should have. Jonghyun struggled a lot with his depression, being with SHINee, composing, Blue Night, all that helped him with what he had, plus the support of his family and friends, but unfortunately his condition beat him. In the end, what happened wasn't the fault of anyone but the same illness that he suffered. As a shawol I just want people to stop relating him to his depression only and to remember him as the amazing and talented artist that he was and still is in our hearts. I'm sorry for the long comment, but even after a year has passed, this is still a really emotional and sensitive theme for me as well as for many others. Anyway, good video. Very informative.
@DareDB
@DareDB 5 лет назад
Well said. When it all came down to this video, I still felt like something needed to said since it was brought up a lot during that time. I know this month is Mental Health Awareness Month in the U.S. and I want to do something for it. Hopefully next week. Thank you for watching and for sharing your thoughts!
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
I agree you said better than me. jjong LOVED music and composing. Its just sad that he lost his battle :(
@vintagexparadise
@vintagexparadise 5 лет назад
@@DareDB he was killed by somene no autopsy
@JoanaRodrigues-tc5ek
@JoanaRodrigues-tc5ek 5 лет назад
I agree. As a shawol, it's sad to see people blaming the wrong reasons for his suicide. It strays us from what's actually important. Besides, I feel like at that point in his career he was very respected by the company both as an artist and as a person. SM is not an abstract concept, it's a company, and companies are made out of people. We often forget that
@vintagexparadise
@vintagexparadise 5 лет назад
@@JoanaRodrigues-tc5ek homicide
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
The Siwon thing. The lady refused to go to the hospital after the bite.
@caytlin100
@caytlin100 5 лет назад
96NightRider96 she was already sick with the infection
@godsympo9802
@godsympo9802 5 лет назад
And her family forced her yet when she died Siwon tried to give family money for their loss but family refused and didn't want to dogs death.
@caytlin100
@caytlin100 5 лет назад
Loveurbad gurl the dog it’s living with one of Siwons cousins. And they initially said that it’s was ok that they didn’t want nothing and everything was fine and like a week later after the funeral they want the dogs head. But initially they said that they were really close to the Choi and the woman who died was very close to Siwons parents and the dog and she wouldn’t want fights between the families because she was already sick. She will die nowadays. But they suddenly change, and dude the real villains are them not Siwon or his parents or the dog
@ToadyMcgee
@ToadyMcgee 5 лет назад
...So? She shouldn't have been bitten in the first place. The only reason she *was* is because the family didn't address the dog's biting problem which they were well aware of because it had gone after people before. Let's be real, they obviously couldn't take good care of the dog.
@caytlin100
@caytlin100 5 лет назад
ToadyMcgee My dog has bitten me multiple times because she is anxious and I am not dead, and I went to the hospital every single time. She already had the infection, with out without the bit she will get mortally Ill.
@FGest.07
@FGest.07 5 лет назад
You should have included how Taeyong & Onew's issues was resolved/proven false. People who do not know any better will think the accusation is true because you did not include that those were proven false. Those boys already suffered enough and these kinds of videos just bring back negativity.
@melaniebuilarsen93
@melaniebuilarsen93 5 лет назад
Wait when/how was Onew's issue proven false? Didn't they have multiple eye witnesses?
@ballaesmeralda
@ballaesmeralda 5 лет назад
@@melaniebuilarsen93 Onew 's case is a misunderstanding. Onew don't assaulted the girl for a sexual interest..he was drunk and falling he grabbed her legs...but all the witnesses said that he did not even know that he touch a woman because he was so much drunk and He wanted only to get up
@astouaiisha
@astouaiisha 5 лет назад
I remember for Onew he had just been casted for "AGE OF YOUTH SEASON 2" but got kicked out so they had to hire a new actor and refilm the scenes
@eyes0nyu
@eyes0nyu 5 лет назад
@@astouaiisha Onew volunteered to step down. The director had no plans (this was an official statement from the director himself) of replacing Onew.
@eyes0nyu
@eyes0nyu 5 лет назад
@@melaniebuilarsen93 Proves exactly the issue of the matter. People lynched him before getting proper reports instead of a badly translated tabloid article. There were multiples witnesses that said he was falling down drunk and they also witnessed him grabbing onto the girl as he fell down.
@veeva99
@veeva99 5 лет назад
I still feel bad for Sungmin for being pushed away like that. Sure, maybe he could have gotten married at a 'better' moment, but the fans had no right to react in the ways they did. I am still hoping to see a comeback with Sungmin there, since he is so talented and I miss seeing him in the line up.
@DareDB
@DareDB 5 лет назад
Even the "reasonings" why they're angry still seems extreme, and given the fact we're 5 years later, now they're just being petty.
@veeva99
@veeva99 5 лет назад
@@DareDB I honestly thought that they were being petty from the first moment that this started. But maybe that's just the Dutch mentality of "live and let live." It's their life and as long as they ain't hurting themselves or others they should do what they would like to do.
@shiningshinee6227
@shiningshinee6227 5 лет назад
what right moment dear , k-elfs will never ready look at heechul/leeteuk......Heechul in every video indirectly say he wants to date and all....they are going to be 40 in some years an still k-elfs want them to remain single yesung got hate for kiss in mv kyuhyun got hate for girl in mv don't know what is future of suju love life :( :(
@joycesamuel5598
@joycesamuel5598 5 лет назад
well, im almost 100% sure that suju had already known about this whole sungmin dating thing and ofc. they discussed his marriage before. and i think that if anyone thought that this was a problem for they would've talked it out. sungmin isnt that selfish neither ignorant of the schedule of the group. yet he got married and everyone was happy, also about the 'better' moment, sungmin got married just a few months before he enlisted so i do think that in the end he did the right thing.
@srr998
@srr998 4 года назад
Exo chen issue really remind me about sungmin. Fortunately, SM stand with chen and there are fans who up a petition to support chen stays in exo. But no such thing for sungmin. He is in hiatus for many years.
@peachxtaehyung
@peachxtaehyung 5 лет назад
The siwon dog bite thing shouldve never happened... Like siwon was never there so why did people boycott him?! Plus the womans own family accepted his apology!
@DareDB
@DareDB 5 лет назад
I think the worse part is that she neglected to get it treated. Like, why should Siwon suffer because of 1. Him not being involved. 2. The lady's choice of not acting on it.
@plantadelbosque
@plantadelbosque 5 лет назад
@Nela even nowadays there are articles literally treating him as an assassin, as if he was actively trying to do it... I try to laugh at it now, cause it really, really makes me angry
@ToadyMcgee
@ToadyMcgee 5 лет назад
Because she shouldn't have been bitten in the first place. The only reason she *was* is because the family didn't address the dog's biting problem, which they were well aware of because it had gone after people before. They all knew about it but did nothing. Let's be real, they obviously couldn't take good care of the dog.
@plantadelbosque
@plantadelbosque 5 лет назад
​@@ToadyMcgee While it's true his family didn't take good care of the dog for it to do that, It's the first time ever I read of other instances, do you have sources?
@ToadyMcgee
@ToadyMcgee 5 лет назад
@@plantadelbosque Really? It's pretty well known that the family would let the dog walk around without a leash and that it was aggressive and bit Leeteuk. This is not the ideal source but I'm heading to bed so it'll have to do for now. I'll find some better sources tomorrow www.asianjunkie.com/2017/10/23/video-reveals-siwons-father-lied-in-apology-past-posts-reveal-dogs-history-of-biting/
@yuckyjean
@yuckyjean 5 лет назад
Jonghyuns death was not a scandal at all it was just an unexpected event that everyone wish didn't happened or at least paid more attention to
@douxhana
@douxhana 5 лет назад
I think he just included it due to SM’s past of mistreatment of artists. -If that makes sense.- Though, I’m not exactly sure.
@sugarmochi3224
@sugarmochi3224 5 лет назад
This could have been stop. Jonghyun was going to a doctor and he told him that he didn’t have depression and that his sadness was part of his personality. Like what the heck. Korean are so close minded. You can’t just say that. Yes, people do have depression.
@sugarmochi3224
@sugarmochi3224 5 лет назад
I mean the doctor told Jonghyun that his sadness was part of his personally and that he didn’t had depression
@charly441182
@charly441182 4 года назад
Sugar Mochi also he told his friends and family in the letter but I guess no one took him seriously
@riahlexington
@riahlexington 4 года назад
Sugar Mochi I’m with you. It makes me so angry. Did SM provide that “doctor?”
@taemojkmt4369
@taemojkmt4369 5 лет назад
The Onew scandal still annoys me to this day. Those big kpop news sites (Allkpop in particular) mistranslated articles suggesting it was the private areas touched not the leg when no korean source even mentioned it. Even after being called out and being linked official police reports they only changed it hours later after most people had already seen it. If your a news source you should at least be translating articles correctly.
@SHINeeNAilee
@SHINeeNAilee 5 лет назад
People to this day still think Onew raped someone, and that's just... not the case. It annoys the crap out of me too. ///:
@voodoomagic90
@voodoomagic90 5 лет назад
Meanwhile people like Seungri who committed sexual trafficking and carried out prostitution rings and other idols in his friend circle who drugged and raped women all get serenaded as innocent and get away with their crimes with barely a slap on the wrist.
@ThanviVishishta
@ThanviVishishta 5 лет назад
@@voodoomagic90 Umm no. They're definitely having it a lot worse than Onew ever had. The comparison was really unnecessary. "get away with barely a slap on the wrist", some of them have been charged and arrested while Seungri is still awaiting trial. Nobody is getting away and nobody is going to forgive them. Meanwhile, people have already forgiven Onew.
@awesomeness967
@awesomeness967 5 лет назад
allkpop is trash im surprised people still go on that toxic website they must be new fans
@jeifrances1691
@jeifrances1691 5 лет назад
@@ThanviVishishta But Onew did not do anything. He was innocent. Seungri isn't, he even said so himself. Stop the comparison when Onew isn't a criminal.
@0ldreams
@0ldreams 5 лет назад
80% of this is about artists leaving and filing lawsuits 🤷‍♀
@kiwipineapple4123
@kiwipineapple4123 3 года назад
Sadly because of their slave contract, SM idols deserve better
@nicomartinelli4543
@nicomartinelli4543 5 лет назад
This video could be hours long considering all SM has done.
@jannatnaz4862
@jannatnaz4862 5 лет назад
Agree
@sophii7906
@sophii7906 5 лет назад
Imagine YG's
@saranguyen2788
@saranguyen2788 5 лет назад
@Kunjal Gawas If YG was as big as SM they would have similar issues. When I say big I mean in terms of size. SM has far more models,singers, actors, production and crew than YG. Not to mention SM has been around and relevant a lot longer. People forget YG disbanded his first girl group shortly after debuting because the public felt they were too fat. And they only forget because YG wasn't relevant at all when they debuted since this was before BIGBANG.
@angels1077
@angels1077 5 лет назад
@Kunjal Gawas I'd rather the company makes mistakes than the idols. 🤣 The most important is the idols public relationships with their idols, just FYI. And about overworking thing, EXO is out of the light for it haven't even a year, then fans keeps bugging SM to give them concerts or new albums. The fuvk is wrong with people. You complained about overworking, and then you complained for not giving them work. Hellshit!🤣🤣
@angels1077
@angels1077 5 лет назад
@Mean Whale at least, SM gives them the FREEDOM, the real FREEDOM that is not related to their works.
@nerdyniesha
@nerdyniesha 5 лет назад
Mr. Mimi(Zhou Mi) and Henry will always be a part of Suju to me! 💖
@gforskli4307
@gforskli4307 5 лет назад
Forever 15
@tdelioncourt1268
@tdelioncourt1268 5 лет назад
Same
@NanaKirae
@NanaKirae 5 лет назад
taeyong's case was proven to be untrue. sm made him apologise for something he didnt even do. he cried over it apologising when he didnt so shit. the company didnt protect him. they never protected any of their artists.
@13din
@13din 3 года назад
That’s quite sad.
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
i still want a suju reunion
@iseul8981
@iseul8981 5 лет назад
15..
@puffaishaaa7695
@puffaishaaa7695 5 лет назад
They will make a cb around july - dec , hopefully with full members
@endlessjoy218
@endlessjoy218 5 лет назад
@@puffaishaaa7695 I really am hoping that they literally meant a "full member comeback."
@puffaishaaa7695
@puffaishaaa7695 5 лет назад
@@endlessjoy218 i think they'll cb as ot9 only
@endlessjoy218
@endlessjoy218 5 лет назад
@@puffaishaaa7695 Noooooooooooooo...... :(
@cp-kv4ur
@cp-kv4ur 4 года назад
MAJOR SCANDALS: JYP: OFFENSIVE ACTS SM: DATING YG: DRUGS
@imnotyou7025
@imnotyou7025 4 года назад
*SM : SUICIDES
@baekines793
@baekines793 4 года назад
​@@imnotyou7025 I'm sorry, but that is very disrespectful of you to say that.
@imnotyou7025
@imnotyou7025 4 года назад
@@baekines793 sorry not sorry thats reality
@baekines793
@baekines793 4 года назад
@@imnotyou7025 no need to mention it though
@minamatyan888
@minamatyan888 4 года назад
SM slave contracts
@eyes0nyu
@eyes0nyu 5 лет назад
What was not mentioned about the Onew case was that the Gangnam Police corroborated every witness testimony in favour of Onew. Also, SM didn't ask the girl to drop the charges, she dropped it on her own. There was a coverage of the incident where the reporter said after the friends explained to the girl she sighed and said let them go. Now I'm not saying to pardon him for getting drunk and sloppy. Yeah, he needs to get called out on that - but rather hypocritical if you've ever been drunk and sloppy. But the amount of hate he got because he wasn't the perfect person they thought he was is more than harsh - it was downright unfair. 10 years (at that point) of good behaviour and people couldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. Netizens lynched him even before they got clearer translations and even after the investigation came out.
@loststars6533
@loststars6533 5 лет назад
I know! SHINee is basically my ult, and I've always had nothing but respect for Onew (who doesn't, honestly). It was heart-breaking seeing people tear him apart before the news could even cover the story properly. And once all of the details came out, it was clear a misunderstanding had taken place. Like you said, I'm not saying I'm okay with him having gotten dead drunk like that. It was irresponsible of him, to say the least. But for heaven's sake, it's not like he killed someone! And then he had to drop out of a show he was in, and then miss SHINee's Japan tour in September - all while he "reflected..." It was all so horribly unfair. Like you said, 10 years of perfect behaviour, and people threw him under the bus like that. Ugh.
@vintagexparadise
@vintagexparadise 5 лет назад
sm did ask the girl
@thepixie504
@thepixie504 5 лет назад
That's why I never relate to any "fandom" Im a part of TVXQs red ocean and I love watching other groups and singers. But the fandom is.... Really ridiculous. International fans seem a tad bit more realistic.
@loststars6533
@loststars6533 5 лет назад
@@thepixie504 Yeah, the only fandoms I consider myself to really be a part of are Aroha and Mydays (even then, I'm not super active or anything). I find the slightly less popular groups tend to have less crazy fans. Because there are less people in the fandom... haha :P Plus, Aroha and Mydays are just chill. I mean, every fandom has... problematic people. But not being "competition" to the other big groups means most people leave us alone, and we leave everyone else alone! Win-win! I think SHINee World is pretty chill overall. They seem to have aged well, at least :) But I think I was so late to the party that I just stayed on the sidelines. And at the end of the day, SHINee was/is way more popular than Astro and Day6, therefore the fandom is bigger (not to mention older), therefore there are bound to be more crazies :/ Fame has its pros and cons, I guess. ANYWAYS yeah I tend to stay away from fandoms. I enjoy my groups/artists as they are, without the need to mix the fandom in. It's easier that way >.
@eyes0nyu
@eyes0nyu 5 лет назад
@@vintagexparadise not according to the report. And if they did, that's not an admission of guilt. *They did what they were supposed to do - most especially because it was an accident.* Who else was supposed to stand up for him if not his label? I don't get this argument. It proves nothing other than people love to shit on SM.
@enviisyk
@enviisyk 5 лет назад
We need a jyp one now because everyone thinks he’s a saint but he’s actually really creepy and also overworks his idols, especially Twice
@saranguyen2788
@saranguyen2788 5 лет назад
Hopefully they mention the Jay Park and Wonder Girls sex scandal.
@praisethelordgriffith8338
@praisethelordgriffith8338 5 лет назад
@@saranguyen2788 why what happened?
@sara-ge5qe
@sara-ge5qe 5 лет назад
Sara Nguyen don’t forget that one where hyuna was preggo with jay parks baby
@jelljen818
@jelljen818 5 лет назад
@@sara-ge5qe that was just a rumor tho? She left cause of health issues
@luviezen7698
@luviezen7698 5 лет назад
@@angels1077 i guess TY is talking about when HyunA was still in JYP ent. Cube is her former company and Pentagon's too :)
@dawn6525
@dawn6525 5 лет назад
how sm treats their idols, particularly their foreign members, is so worrying
@nanaosei6613
@nanaosei6613 5 лет назад
Dawn racist pieces of sh*t...
@NoOne-cu5qz
@NoOne-cu5qz 5 лет назад
The sungmin thing always annoys me because there's so much bs going around. No one knows if his groupmates told him to wait. Plus "mimi" had been sungmin's nickname before he even knew his wife.
@NoOne-cu5qz
@NoOne-cu5qz 5 лет назад
@Nela yes! It's so stupid. The dude didn't do anything wrong to be chased out of the group.
@shiningshinee6227
@shiningshinee6227 5 лет назад
he was literally sitting with SUJU in supertv returns remember ?? Alsooo he was going to take part in PLAY album but those annoying k-elfs their ego doesn't satisfy them
@NoOne-cu5qz
@NoOne-cu5qz 5 лет назад
@@shiningshinee6227 there are even some I-elfs that want him out. I cant believe they threatened to boycott and stopped him from coming back.
@shiningshinee6227
@shiningshinee6227 5 лет назад
@@NoOne-cu5qz i didn't know there were i-fans also !!! what the hell seriously in m knowledge k-fans are more like they purchase shares in sm to control over suju.....Suju is having most difficult life
@Louisaaa-or1jo
@Louisaaa-or1jo 5 лет назад
No One actually when they did a show called radio star members actually said they were disappointed and thought their needed to be a better time and better communication. Theirs an article about it x
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
And the Taeyong thing...ppl really hunted him too hard for that. like
@RoseRose-qm7sk
@RoseRose-qm7sk 5 лет назад
I think it was proven later to be wrong... and like Taeyong like he can't do that...
@kmb9236
@kmb9236 5 лет назад
@@RoseRose-qm7sk it really was proofen wrong but people still hate on him for doing it even tho he never did it
@RoseRose-qm7sk
@RoseRose-qm7sk 5 лет назад
@@kmb9236 How can they omg like he is a baby...just watch him on Flinch he is soooo cute I can never hate on him
@kmb9236
@kmb9236 5 лет назад
@@RoseRose-qm7sk well antis always find a reason to hate him and why not using the scandal and look like a total clown to everyone else. It doesn't happen as often tho but when the video came out of him pushing a fan last year it was brought up again. It's sad how ignorant people can be
@RoseRose-qm7sk
@RoseRose-qm7sk 5 лет назад
xx_km.b_xx no matter how much they hate on him everyone knows Taeyong is a baby😂and tbh I’m just soo proud that he is the leader of the group, he is so hardworking, so sincere and I literally show him off to everyone both kpop and non kpop fans
@kiearranelson1100
@kiearranelson1100 5 лет назад
why is 99.9% of the scandals with super junior this kangin dude? 😭
@enchantixstar
@enchantixstar 5 лет назад
I feel so sorry for henry :''( y'all are awful for protesting to get rid of him from suju-m imagine how awful he must've felt
@areyoukirringmeirriyaa
@areyoukirringmeirriyaa 5 лет назад
ikr
@luxi8141
@luxi8141 5 лет назад
Jonghyun's part always hurt the most no matter how times goes by😢
@enviisyk
@enviisyk 5 лет назад
Kangin needs to stay away from alcohol, periodt
@stephenchoi4349
@stephenchoi4349 5 лет назад
Iliana Is Trash I think the first time Kangin made a mistake. The drunk driving thing? Also wrong. However, if someone attacks you (assuming the statement in saying that someone attacked him first is correct), then I think you have a right to protect yourself.
@puffaishaaa7695
@puffaishaaa7695 5 лет назад
If he stay away from alcohol , can u guys accept him back ?
@antoncutie
@antoncutie 5 лет назад
@@puffaishaaa7695 its up to people, but at least he will stop being an asshole if he stay away from alcohol...
@puffaishaaa7695
@puffaishaaa7695 5 лет назад
@@antoncutie and its already 4yrs right ? It's does not enough to show u guys that he is having a healthy life now ??
@antoncutie
@antoncutie 5 лет назад
@@puffaishaaa7695 sis, its not all about him, nobody give a damn about his healthy life, its about everything, he could kill someone's father, mother, child or lover and imagine its happen to ur close one...drunk driving is really serious problem... thats why he need to stay the fuck away from alcohol if he cant handle it... but if he change and be a better person now, then its good and i support it...
@mayamoon9207
@mayamoon9207 5 лет назад
The whole thing with Sungmin's marriage still pisses me off so bad. If you claim to be a fan of someone you should be happy for them when they get married not berate them and say they have to leave the group
@oberdamujigae
@oberdamujigae 5 лет назад
what I learned from this video is that k-ELFs are very entitled and SM will do anything to suffer no loss, even forcing slave contracts thanks derek for the video! definitely very insightful
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
yep i was so surprised when sm had that full on meeting with the cray cray elfs over sungmin. sm is pathetic, wont even take up for their own artist. Like Jaejoong said, "When they need us we were there. When we needed them we were like strangers." (or something like that)
@_cherrychi_
@_cherrychi_ 5 лет назад
oberdamujigae what are K-elfs
@oberdamujigae
@oberdamujigae 5 лет назад
@@_cherrychi_ korean super junior fans
@_cherrychi_
@_cherrychi_ 5 лет назад
oberdamujigae Oh okay thank youuu
@milicadjordjevic4498
@milicadjordjevic4498 5 лет назад
Kangin is one very troubled man.
@sadie5336
@sadie5336 5 лет назад
he stay doing shit
@oberdamujigae
@oberdamujigae 5 лет назад
he really needs to stay away from booze. learn to never drink it again and be intoxicated
@soniciris
@soniciris 5 лет назад
It's a huge bummer because his voice was always my favorite in SUJU but he has used up his second chances, you know?
@Kiya-mt2oh
@Kiya-mt2oh 5 лет назад
oberdamujigae but honestly that amount wasn’t that much when I drink that much alcohol I‘m still really responsible. I just don’t get hit and runs just stand up for your mistakes everyone makes mistakes it‘s embarrassing to just leave
@Maitray28
@Maitray28 5 лет назад
@@Kiya-mt2oh well this mistake can take someone life and you should never drink and drive 🙂
@heyyysjlikethis7187
@heyyysjlikethis7187 5 лет назад
I sincerely hope Kangin has gotten help during this hiatus.... from what I've seen in life, people usually act that way when they're dealing with something they don't know how to handle.. they get overwhelmed and then turn to negative things to help them relieve some stress (myself included in that "they" btw). I'm really worried about him.. at this point, I'm almost certain he won't be joining Suju again but that doesn't even matter to me. I just want him to get the help he needs so he can live a happy, healthy life from now on.
@oreydamichelle
@oreydamichelle 5 лет назад
he has been looking happier these past few days during his baseball games and also dyed his hair! i really hope he is💙
@pinkrockz123
@pinkrockz123 5 лет назад
I honestly think celebrity life isn't for him I also hope he has received professional help for his drinking. I also kinda hope he doesn't join their comeback I know many ELF want him back but I feel that will only hurt SJ more if he does a lot of people are not forgiving to driving while intoxicated even though he was forgiven once he ruined his chance by doing it again
@loststars6533
@loststars6533 5 лет назад
I don't follow Suju at all but my heart was breaking for him while I was watching this video. I thought "Dang, he's clearly struggling with some inner demons. And he isn't getting the right kind of help, seeing as there have been repeated incidents." But I'm glad he seems to be doing better nowadays. I also wish him a happy, healthy life :) Like @Graycat43 said, some people just aren't cut out for that kind of life. I'm sure Jonghyun wasn't, given the letter he left behind. It can really take a toll on people.
@puffaishaaa7695
@puffaishaaa7695 5 лет назад
@@pinkrockz123 and im here bcs i want kangin cb with suju again , idc about another people that still can't accept him . Suju make a cb for Elf not for haters
@pinkrockz123
@pinkrockz123 5 лет назад
@@puffaishaaa7695 that's great that you support him I'm no one to judge him or have a say on which members comback. I am also an ELF however because of personal reasons I cannot fully support him, I work with people who have suffered life changing injuries due to drunk drivers because of this I can't support him. However, I won't judge those who do because I believe people's position on it is based on their own experiences and believes. Also if he does comeback in their next cb I will still fully support it I love the rest of the members and I will continue being an ELF
@vanillaar655
@vanillaar655 5 лет назад
I THOUGHt it was proven that Taeyong was innocent ?
@lovelyrfc
@lovelyrfc 5 лет назад
vanilla ar yes
@awesomeness967
@awesomeness967 5 лет назад
yes people just made up rumors about him. i wish this person who made the video would clarify it bc some people still think it's true and hate on him for something he didnt do
@airielove
@airielove 5 лет назад
I still doesn't understand super junior's fan reaction when it comes to Henry and sungmin...
@gabrieln9145
@gabrieln9145 5 лет назад
Oh what I didn’t know about that Yu Zhi thing
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
we had it buried until now. he did get into singing/performing later back in china, but his weibo page is gone now tho....idk where he is now. i just know he liked basket balll a lottt
@lorena_erm
@lorena_erm 5 лет назад
Onew's issue is not true and he was proven innocent. You should've added it, to avoid confusion within fans. I don't want my boy to have a bad image after others watched this vid.
@HahaOK88
@HahaOK88 5 лет назад
*Stay strong Super Junior.* 💙 We will walk together to become a better person from now on.
@maria-8284
@maria-8284 5 лет назад
Im actually really proud of super junior. Theyve been thru so many scandals and stuff like that but looked hpw they turned out now! Now their in a really good place with true fans and still making bomb songs. Im happy that altho they went thru so much, they didnt just crumble and disband. Let's all just take a moment to admire how hardworking and how well they moved on and became better!💖 Edit: oh yah kangin is actually returning to the screens this year with a k drama!
@areyoukirringmeirriyaa
@areyoukirringmeirriyaa 5 лет назад
ICONS
@heemi5793
@heemi5793 5 лет назад
True. It was so amazing how after 14 years they are still active and having great bops and still enjoying performing. Even Heechul's not participating in performances, he always carry the name SUJU in him and promote the name anywhere he can. He's proud of the group. They all literally have no intention of leaving each other and disbanding. 14 years with majority of the members active is so amazing. Are they the longest kpop group promoting next to Shinhwa? Cuz that's so admirable!
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 3 года назад
@@heemi5793 he promoted for house party but not long
@nevereverigoteyesonyou8377
@nevereverigoteyesonyou8377 5 лет назад
I was proud ( and still am💙 ) that shinee barely had any scandals being such a successful group in this wicked company.......but than 2017 😫
@hannahfionna
@hannahfionna 5 лет назад
Uh? Nothing happened in 2018...?
@nevereverigoteyesonyou8377
@nevereverigoteyesonyou8377 5 лет назад
@@hannahfionna ya it was 2017 ......
@hannahfionna
@hannahfionna 5 лет назад
@@nevereverigoteyesonyou8377 yeah
@velvet8859
@velvet8859 5 лет назад
I found SHINee at August 2017 thank goodness I found it before December....
@nithishanithi8712
@nithishanithi8712 4 года назад
but still, we know that jinki's case was a misunderstanding and jonghyunnie is watching us from the stars💜
@LESLIE-gk9ip
@LESLIE-gk9ip 4 года назад
All of the Chinese members’ lawsuits against SM makes me really worried for NCT’s Chinese members...
@morphogenetic_
@morphogenetic_ 4 года назад
At least wayv is under a separate label, they don't have the same managing team as the rest of NCT (also in videos I feel like they're much closer to their staff!! It's heartwarming to see), the only thing is that SM is currently not promoting them well enough (although that may change with the new CEO and how well Turn Back Time is doing rn). But yeah I'm worried about renle :(
@estherlepage4155
@estherlepage4155 4 года назад
GO生 agreed! But I’m more concerned for Renjun cuz I’ve seen the different incidents with managers and how he’s treated quite differently. I don’t think it’s a problem for Chenle because he’s extremely rich and more than that, his family is extremely powerful so I don’t think SM would want any problems with him cuz he could literally just buy the company lmao
@wingkienusanti557
@wingkienusanti557 4 года назад
@@estherlepage4155 I'm with you. sm should've learned from the past with what happened to hangeng and exo. I'm worried abt renjun
@royalarmy2547
@royalarmy2547 4 года назад
THANK GOD JIN DIDNT SIGN WITH SM😥
@jungshooktothecore44
@jungshooktothecore44 4 года назад
ROYAL SAGGITIRIOUS umm why is Jin mentioned here? He isn’t Chinese
@syymmmmm
@syymmmmm 5 лет назад
Rest in peace jonghyun😭❤️
@SHANICEHIGGINS
@SHANICEHIGGINS 5 лет назад
So much shit happens in SM and in other companies, yet some people take offense when two people start to date each other... like priorities people. Just like people signing petitions to rewrite a season of Game of Thrones, because they hate it, when there are so many other important things in the REAL world to worry about.
@nightangel3578
@nightangel3578 5 лет назад
Anyone that's emotionally affected by a series finale, but not more emotionally affected by suicide, assault, and other real world problems are crazy to me.
@Nicola1279
@Nicola1279 5 лет назад
Wasn’t the Taeyong one proven to be false?
@Sunflower-gl4jj
@Sunflower-gl4jj 5 лет назад
I heard that too but idk
@LimitlessTY
@LimitlessTY 5 лет назад
Yes it was proven false. Kinda annoying that he didn’t include it. There is a whole article about it
@sleepyearth
@sleepyearth 4 года назад
@@LimitlessTY This channel is about clickbait.
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 3 года назад
@@sleepyearth it is?
@ludmilaribeiro2640
@ludmilaribeiro2640 5 лет назад
The Jessica thing is SO messed up. It happened so suddenly and AFTER her contract renew. We don't know what happened and we never got a statement about it from SM (I know they actually released one after her weibo post, but I don't believe a thing that was written there), the members cannot talk about her and the company is always trying to erase her from everything. She deserves better.
@Bran4pres
@Bran4pres 5 лет назад
Is it weird to say that I'm an SM stan only for the artists? Like if they all left the company I wouldn't still be one, instead I would just support the artists wherever they may end up.
@justanotherfangirl6360
@justanotherfangirl6360 5 лет назад
Agrippina Volturi Whitlock No cuz this is exactly how I feel lmao😂😂
@soobindoll9767
@soobindoll9767 5 лет назад
Same
@kittyelf1485
@kittyelf1485 5 лет назад
Who doesn’t feel that way? SM sucks but that’s not their artists’ fault
@sweetxlies6761
@sweetxlies6761 5 лет назад
Almost all SM stans just stan SM artists and not the company. Me included
@thegubster
@thegubster 5 лет назад
Everyone is a stan for the artists. It’s not like people stan the managers or something
@nightangel3578
@nightangel3578 5 лет назад
It's always been crazy to me that so many 'fans' have no knowledge about the JYJ vs SME situation. They made a move that was damn near unseen in Kpop. What they did opened the gateway for so many groups and individual acts throughout Kpop.
@killjoy8372
@killjoy8372 3 года назад
for JYJ you didn't mention how SM shadowbanned the three of them from tv to the point where the first time junsu appeared on tv was last year, after ten years, despite multiple attempts and expressing how much he wanted to appear on it again. he had to go into musicals because SM made sure the three would never be able to promote their music the normal way and that was the only way he felt he could sing on stage again. it was to a point a new law was made to outlaw this practice but it's ultimately useless and did nothing to help their situation. (apologies, i only follow junsu's activities not the other two so im less informed about them)
@TeamoJXZ
@TeamoJXZ 4 года назад
SM kicking Jessica out is the weirdest and dumbest thing I've seen
@meh8330
@meh8330 5 лет назад
But Taeyong's scandal was proven to be false?
@aizen3215
@aizen3215 5 лет назад
Meh yes it is
@nanaosei6613
@nanaosei6613 5 лет назад
Good but I found it hilariously hard to believe he did that but...u never know 🤷🏾‍♀️ why do ppl make false claims ? What do they every gain....
@baakojernigan7095
@baakojernigan7095 5 лет назад
I'm sorry but I just find Taeyong being a middle school scammer hilarious 🤣🤣
@zenz_bro
@zenz_bro 5 лет назад
You ain't the only one that laughed lol!! but didn't something happen to him that wasn't his fault and the company made him apologize anyway??
@TheJrockfreak
@TheJrockfreak 5 лет назад
Lol your not the only one, it was pretty funny
@monerizen
@monerizen 5 лет назад
Poor thing cried so much over this cuz people still criticised him after his apology, I didn't find this since the first time heard about this i saw him crying.
@LimitlessTY
@LimitlessTY 5 лет назад
Actually the whole thing has been proven false. It derived from one incident where he sent a toy and that toy broke during delivery. He offered a refund but the guy he was selling to refused and called him a scammer even though he really wasn’t when offered a refund
@shan2355
@shan2355 5 лет назад
same when im new to being nctzen and find out that, i was like is that really a big thing?
@samx1dongpyo522
@samx1dongpyo522 5 лет назад
Honestly the Onew and Seugmin (sorry if I misspelled or even butchered his name) of SuJu ones make me SO angry 😡😡!!! They’re a misunderstanding and overreaction respectfully. For the Onew one, he was drunk. Not knowing what he was doing and totally out of it. Now do I approve of it and is it an excuse, absolutely not. Onew as a fully grown man should be able to properly handle his alcohol and that could’ve totally prevented what happened. However, he did not whatsoever mean to do what he did and it was blown way out of proportion 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️. As for the Seugmin (or whatever his name is) one, this is honestly heartbreaking. All he did was fall in love and get married and now most of his “fans” turn their backs on him? That’s not what a fan should be. They should be happy when their faves reveal something like this. I wonder what those “fans” feel now that they’ve potentially prevented a group they claim to love from promoting with all members active. Now don’t get me wrong. I love SM for the groups and music they’ve made. SHINee is one of my top bias groups and SM really know what they’re dong in regards to music. However there’s SO much they could improve on as well that honestly makes me wish SM did a complete overhaul. SM definitely has a lot of issues that seriously need to be addressed 😔😔
@hannahfionna
@hannahfionna 5 лет назад
Onew's case wasn't even a "he was drunk and touched a woman" type of thing but it was more of an accident, since he tripped and accidentally touched her leg, there was absolutely not intent on his part, he never meant to touch her drunk or not, so it was completely blown out of proportion
@eyes0nyu
@eyes0nyu 5 лет назад
@@hannahfionna he was a victim of his fame, spotless image and fake woke people who was no more problematic than the next person.
@hannahfionna
@hannahfionna 5 лет назад
@@eyes0nyu Exactly, I agree with you!
@keyland_
@keyland_ 5 лет назад
1. *Onew was proven innocent* 2.its disrespectful for Jonghyun to be included here.
@aerisproperty779
@aerisproperty779 4 года назад
We stan an unproblematic queen, BoA. Imagine being 2 decades in the industry, still no scandals.
@shineeshawols5773
@shineeshawols5773 5 лет назад
I have an issue with one thing.... JONGHYUN. His death isn’t a controversy! At all.
@blackjem1699
@blackjem1699 5 лет назад
yeah I hated that he mentioned that leave our beautiful angel out of this
@linacolista8222
@linacolista8222 4 года назад
To the fans were mad about SuJu getting a new member, wait till you hear about Nct
@cheri___
@cheri___ 3 года назад
god I am so late to this but as an elf I was so happy to see a lot of nctzens giving love to the new members, I wish Henry and Zhoumi had the same warm welcome to the group.
@intanbarokah3017
@intanbarokah3017 5 лет назад
For me , Suju always 13+2 members :)
@beenarajeev172
@beenarajeev172 5 лет назад
Intan Barokah I m not a fan of Suju but how many members do they have currently (in total)?
@sanjanatirna
@sanjanatirna 4 года назад
@@beenarajeev172 currently 9. but Heechul is inactive due to his leg injury.
@tarofpsss
@tarofpsss 4 года назад
it's still fucked up how they say only 13. Henry didn't deserve this bullshit. He worked his ass off since he was 6 and still some people who called themselves ELFS turned off lightsticks when Henry was singing his solos while promoting with suju. Some fucked up shit right there if u ask me. Proof is in youtube search up Henry dingo.
@aquaamethysttears5183
@aquaamethysttears5183 4 года назад
This proves that SM has "contract" issues especially with their male groups. H.O.T, Shinhwa, DBSk & even Exo all filed lawsuit for their unfair contract, uneven profit distribution & even slave-driving. They're all popular & talented groups but SM wasted them all due to 💰. I always look forward to SM groups because they're all talented & has quality and yet they're also the hardest slave-drivers.
@Dastiel4ever
@Dastiel4ever 5 лет назад
It still pisses me off to no end that people hold a grudge on Kangin when TOP was forgiven and everything was forgot about. Kangin is sober, he's apologetic and wants to return and should be able to. As for Henry he deserved better than what the ELF fandom gave to him back then, it's better now but it was too late. But ELFs support all members regardless of whether they are active or not and he's doing good on his own.
@pizzapastasoso4498
@pizzapastasoso4498 5 лет назад
Dastiel4ever ok hello. No hatred as I am an ELF but I am also a VIP and I’m sorry but I have words. With all due respect, there is no reason to compare because both crimes are totally different. TOP smoked pot, yes. A drug that is hella illegal in Korea. && of course, He apologized for it and went back to military and served his country and has stopped and I’m positive will continue to stay sober after he comes home. Even though some have quote on quote forgiven him, a lot of people are STILL furious about it. It happened in 2017 and come 2019 people still treat it as if it was the worst thing ever. (I really hope he is forgiven enough to help out BB but that’s another topic lol) Bottom line, TOP had one run in with the law while Kangin has had about 4ish now. 2 being assault related and 2 being DUI related. I understand why people hold a grudge against him. I mean hell, I’m pissed by his actions but I still love him. Remember, this is not an attacky comment. I hope you’re doing well and have a blessed day 💕
@soniciris
@soniciris 5 лет назад
Begging your pardon but "ELFs support all members" is the biggest crock of crap I've heard in a month of Sundays.
@FirstLast-dt5jk
@FirstLast-dt5jk 5 лет назад
@@soniciris agree.. ELFs are one messy fandom. wonder why they never had fanwars? or even if they had one it gets solved quickly..know why? They have no time for fanwars when the fans themselves are busy fighting each other. I'm ELF and trust me I know enough of all the mess not only with SJ but with ELFs
@FirstLast-dt5jk
@FirstLast-dt5jk 5 лет назад
@@pizzapastasoso4498 thank you for this.. people need to stop discriminate TOP just bcoz he's from YG and part of BB. lol but people always want to bring down BB anyway.. and tbh i wish they just stop proclaiming they are VIP if they only like GD like hello? GD is not the whole BB he's part of it. If you like one fifth of the whole group it doesn't even counted as fans. ㅡ.ㅡ
@pizzapastasoso4498
@pizzapastasoso4498 5 лет назад
First Last First Last yooOOOOoooOOOO preach! Big Bang and G Dragon are not the same thing. BB consisted of 5( well now 4) talented talents to date in face of kpop. GD May lead but any VIP knows that BB is BB bc of all members not just the charismatic leader. You gotta have TOPs goofy, Youngbae’s dorky sincerity, Dae’s laugh, and GD’s compassion to create a (if you will) BIGBANG. But yeah, I hate when people have thrown any of the members under the bus especially as of late with the whole Burning Sun bullshit crime and bring up past mistakes and scandals the other 4 have done.
@glgarcia831
@glgarcia831 5 лет назад
*12:48* Did y'all also hear how his voice changed talking about Jonghyun?
@riahlexington
@riahlexington 4 года назад
Yeah 😓
@mariahp5235
@mariahp5235 3 года назад
Made Taeyong apologize for something not real but let Wendy be racist TWICE the whole reason I’m a ot4 now and some of y’all were fine with hating on Yeri when she did nothing problematic
@seokiology
@seokiology 3 года назад
IKR and yeri was the only member who spoke of blm and posted resources of it on her ig story. The audacity
@heenimho860
@heenimho860 5 лет назад
2:36 But this scandal really gets on my nerves, Zhoumi and Henry can’t promote with Suju now because they are only apart of a sub unit. This is really the fans fault
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 3 года назад
Henry left sm. And can’t zhoumi perform with the whole group?
@heenimho860
@heenimho860 3 года назад
@@brennathecatlover4360 they were originally meant to be apart of the main group but fans demanded them to not be added so SM put them in the unit
@brennathecatlover4360
@brennathecatlover4360 3 года назад
@@heenimho860 but there’s no unit so can’t zhoumi join the main group now
@yonasco14
@yonasco14 4 года назад
so basically Kpop idols don't even own their own lives ? they're owned by the companies and the fans ? like calm down jeez
@drainyang
@drainyang 5 лет назад
my tongue is burning from the piping hot tea you spilled in this :((
@pp-vw5jh
@pp-vw5jh 4 года назад
so ppl hated someone for getting married??
@Rose-yj1bi
@Rose-yj1bi 3 года назад
Because they had this stupid belief that an idol is theirs just because they buy cds, goods and attend concerts. They are horrible fans.
@cheyanneross5030
@cheyanneross5030 5 лет назад
You know, I knew about the Henry thing. I knew he wasn't well received. I just find it hysterical that SM is doing the same thing recently (NCT has 21 members now soooo) and no one seems to be up in arms
@mydogwasbrian
@mydogwasbrian 5 лет назад
This video was uploaded in May 2019, and Sulli took her own life last week 10/14/19. Sulli.... ❤️ Speak out against cyber bullying, please, if you see something say something. Let's police ourselves, everyone.
@inoor8230
@inoor8230 5 лет назад
I love how the voice became lower once he started talking about jonghyun😢😢
@arlynaparri8427
@arlynaparri8427 4 года назад
So this issue about new members being added to an existing group has been going on ever since. Now I know why some people can't accept that WayV is a Chinese sub-unit of NCT and that Xiaojun, Hendery, YangYang are also members of the group, making them 21. Like really, there's nothing wrong in adding new members, it's actually a great thing they decided to add these people for more talents, visuals and characters to show to the fans. And really, people will do anything and everything just to drag a person down 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@LimitlessTY
@LimitlessTY 5 лет назад
You are providing false information or at least not telling the full story. Taeyong’s scandal was eventually proved false and over exaggerated and it is sad to see you not include that part, as many people is still trying to defame him because of it
@DareDB
@DareDB 5 лет назад
But wasn't it shown "false" by fans? Did SM and Taeyong ever come out to say that it wasn't true? Taeyong apologized and even reflected on it in interviews after he debuted. Why would fans' theories have more credibility?
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
Well the toy story is true but it wasnt a big deal until fake rumors blew it out of proportion. They hunted him predebut and during nct u promos. when i saw him crying on that show back then, I was like....yall really hurt him for no reason.
@nanaosei6613
@nanaosei6613 5 лет назад
96NightRider96 aaaaaanddd this is why I hate humans ....
@idk6918
@idk6918 4 года назад
DareDB KPop because it “happened before” he got into S.M. How would they know his previous actions. S.M. never looks into scandals and that’s why they made Taeyong apologize anyways. If he didn’t apologize, he would have gotten more hate
@squigglyline2293
@squigglyline2293 5 лет назад
you know I get that elf’s only want the best for SUJU and I understand to some extent but sometimes they’re so negative
@miko7183
@miko7183 3 года назад
I hate SM so much. They still banning JYJ from TV shows till now because they are big company and power to do so. I hate them so much.
@hinatahyuga5230
@hinatahyuga5230 5 лет назад
SM Artists: I have a lot of scandals! YG artists: Hold my shades
@beenarajeev172
@beenarajeev172 5 лет назад
Pledis - We are the worst company ever SM and YG :Let me introduce myself
@lalisathequeenyep2386
@lalisathequeenyep2386 3 года назад
@@beenarajeev172 ts : wtf did you say ?
@syahindah6828
@syahindah6828 5 лет назад
taeyong's sc*m wasnt even true tho, sm forced him to apologize
@ravnphoenx
@ravnphoenx 5 лет назад
Can you do one of these videos for other companies, like JYP, BigHit, etc? I love your vids ❤❤
@alex-hc3sk
@alex-hc3sk 5 лет назад
lol bighit has like two groups under their name theres barely anything to cover it would just be bts
@ravnphoenx
@ravnphoenx 5 лет назад
@@alex-hc3sk I figured that might be the case but I wasn't sure if there were any scandals before BTS made it big. I thought that they had a couple solo artists who I don't hear too much about
@angels1077
@angels1077 5 лет назад
BigHit is fresh company. But once they become big, for sure they'll goona have problems too.😅
@heemi5793
@heemi5793 5 лет назад
@@angels1077 They are literally big for 2 years now LOL and they barely had any issues, oops literally no issues at all. As long as Bang PD is at hold on that company, it wouldn't be touched by negative issues. They were bombarded with rumors for the past years, but Bang Si Hyuk being a great CEO he is knows how to handle it.
@angels1077
@angels1077 5 лет назад
@@heemi5793 you just said it 2 YEARS. Compare to SM's 30 years 😅 plus the fact that SM has more people (Idols, Actors, Comedians, Models) like JYP, YG than BigHit. Once BigHit reaches that level of having so many people to handle, then you tell me.
@andredrw289
@andredrw289 5 лет назад
You know what I find really ironic about this video, no shade to anyone else but did anyone notice how the only act under SM that hasn’t had a scandal is BoA? Like every group under SM has had a scandal in some way shape of form but BoA?
@manav4669
@manav4669 5 лет назад
Umm dont know but Boa is always close to founder of sm Mr. Lee so man And right now she is one of the director of sm So........
@Lin-rs9pw
@Lin-rs9pw 5 лет назад
_but_ _.._ boa is *one* *person* there's lots of idols under sm that have not had any scandals, they're just _apart_ _of_ _a_ _group_ _that_ _has_ even though they're not directly involved _smh_
@andredrw289
@andredrw289 5 лет назад
Lin / I said act
@Lin-rs9pw
@Lin-rs9pw 5 лет назад
@@andredrw289 i know, but boa is still just one person so it makes sense that the solo act is the one that doesn't have any scandals.. lmao
@notmyname3556
@notmyname3556 5 лет назад
She's simply unproblematic, even her love life were peaceful.
@_cherrychi_
@_cherrychi_ 5 лет назад
Wth are wrong with these “fans”! First they want Henry to not get in to Super Junior then they try to take out Sungmin for marrying someone!! I feel so bad for the Super Junior members
@anmol7060
@anmol7060 5 лет назад
Clicked faster than the speed of lightening
@AnimeLoveLover123
@AnimeLoveLover123 3 года назад
It so sad to hear about how mistreated idols can be sometimes but good on the ones who fought back. Making the industry better.
@lesleyblackvelvet5802
@lesleyblackvelvet5802 5 лет назад
And that my friends, is why I always put up my "evil face" every time Korean netizens are mentioned
@joshr9812
@joshr9812 3 года назад
Jessica - the biggest/stupidest and most avoidable scandal in the history of sm. All they needed to do was say Sica was on hiatus. Even if there was fighting. Just on hiatus. 2 years 3 years 4 years whatever. Then when they all agreed they could have come back as 9. Instead they black listed her from appearing on music shows and had the members sign some kind of contract restricting them from mentioning her, her name or even 9 members 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 So bloody dumb
@Strawbubububerry
@Strawbubububerry 5 лет назад
What I wanna know is why does Korea do something about SM if they keep getting these complaints from idols. If you want to have kpop than keep the idols in good health and make sure they are treated right.
@FGest.07
@FGest.07 5 лет назад
If you think SM is the worst then I do not know what you would think of other smaller companies treat their own artists.
@Strawbubububerry
@Strawbubububerry 5 лет назад
@@FGest.07 I don't think sm is the worst I just think that that company and others should treat their idols better. If they can't somebody should do something
@angels1077
@angels1077 5 лет назад
@@Strawbubububerry I believe SM is treating their idols all the same though.
@heemi5793
@heemi5793 5 лет назад
@@FGest.07 I think SM is the worst tho. Well promotion wise, they have power, so if you get to debut, literally skyrocket popularity, but boii they are the worst in handling the artists as a person. SM literally treat them as product as oppose to small companies.
@stephenchoi4349
@stephenchoi4349 5 лет назад
A lot of the mentioned situations are not fully explained in fact and makes the artists look guilty for things they were found innocent for.
@transferstudent6137
@transferstudent6137 5 лет назад
trueeeee
@transferstudent6137
@transferstudent6137 5 лет назад
I wish he could've explained it better :( a lot of fans nowadays r younger so they might not know the whole story front and back :(( no hate tho but a full information would b nice
@shou199
@shou199 5 лет назад
I don't understand if the fans and people over obsessive or insecure
@yungrow5573
@yungrow5573 4 года назад
What the hell i love ur username
@Sb-kx9ne
@Sb-kx9ne 5 лет назад
Woah SM is full of shady business. I think the Tao, Kris and Luhan leaving was the biggest one for me.
@vyphan8911
@vyphan8911 5 лет назад
saw micky yoochun in the thumbnail and a tear instantly left my eye *whhyyyy*
@96NightRider96
@96NightRider96 5 лет назад
exactly...
@yanyayan9895
@yanyayan9895 5 лет назад
Afrer 10 years still feel sad to hear this news in 2019. The 3 members will always in my heart
@ummeafifa3735
@ummeafifa3735 4 года назад
Was waiting for someone to comment about this... I was wondering why his photo has been used here specifically out of three members of JYJ? I may be over thinking but I guess as Micky has already been involved in too many controversies, his photo is being used in the thumbnail to draw a bit more attention here...am I wrong?
@user-lk3fh8se8g
@user-lk3fh8se8g 5 лет назад
Damn That’s a lot of scandals my dude 👇 the amount of fans who are completely shocked/confused by this 😬
@abigaildelaney7653
@abigaildelaney7653 5 лет назад
Next week; History of YG Scandals *2 hour documentary* EDIT: I saw the YG video in my suggestions literally 2 minutes after posting this comment. I am displeased with myself.
@eunhaily8282
@eunhaily8282 5 лет назад
i love this commment ahysgurujtiy
@JennThi
@JennThi 5 лет назад
What I don't understand is why Jessica isn't able to do her clothing line alongside with GG activities but Sooyoung can. They both having their own clothing/merch.
@chaneljen7783
@chaneljen7783 3 года назад
Jessica’s leaving remains one of the biggest mystery in kpop
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