History of Minecraft World Generation - Generating the same world in (almost) every version 

Actually that was complete luck. Shorelines were greatly changed and the odds of it staying the same is quite small.

1.7 changed the "extreme hills" surface from *full grass* with the acceptation of caves and the stone chunk glitch which was removed in 1.7 were changed to a more diverse pattern of stone and grass, the ground layer of the biome was raised by 10 blocks, the mountains were generated shorter and spruce trees generate on them. 1.7 also changed the oceans by making them less wide and more deep, as well as changing the random patterns of sand and dirt bed with the occasional clay patch which you can still find in rivers, swamps and lakes that generate outside of the desert, masa biomes and extreme hills biomes generated after 1.7 and replaced them with a boring, plain gravel bed that would completely stayed untouched except for the occasional ocean monument until 1.13. 1.7 removed caves and ravines (with air), mineshafts and dungeons that would generate exposed to the ocean, the removal of the features listed above increased the demanded an aquatic update as before 1.7 all that was missing from oceans were exclusive structures, plants, live fish and the swimming machinic. 1.7 also changed Tundra biomes by swapping all of the oak trees with spruce trees to spruce things up for Christmas 2013 and the spruce trees still remain to this day. As well as removed dungeons generating with collapsed sand on top of them. 1.7 Changed the *log* top textures from all oak to the ones in the programmer art and classic texture packs today and finally 1.7 removed the singular rose, rose red, cactus green and dandelion yellow dyes as well as replacing the rose in the decorations tab in the creative inventory with the current day peony instead. But of course no-one cares about these features because they all were lost over 10 years (a decade) ago, no one cares about the world gen and focus more on the 1.9 PVC changes because they are just competitive freaks who focus on PVC which only changed on Java Edition, where as these features I have mentioned here affected Java, Console and Pocket Edition (all at different times) is literally called The Update That Changed The World and has been changed multiple times after that to the current world gen and textures. I will end on the fact that this knowledge needs to be spread to every player before it is lost to an endless void of being forgotten. Peace, out.

I consider 1.6.4 to be the best version of release minecraft, solely because of the 1.7 world generation changes. If it weren't for slime blocks and observers I would be fully content staying on 1.6 forever. Where did you get this in depth knowledge about the specific extreme hills changes?@@McCrafterZT8

​@@McCrafterZT81.7 messed up the world gen really bad. I think the excessive grass makes the game very ugly in particular. From that point, Minecraft didn't look like old Minecraft anymore. The new Microsoft look is even worse though.

@@adamiadamiadami I agree

Well we already kinda did similar stuff for that with the 256k data, by making a program that generates chunks in each version and compares them. It doesn't include population or structures as it's a massive headache to work around (loading chunks in different order gives different results for example). You can check out part of the results on hobune.stream/256k This is also how we discovered the version the current 2b2t map was started on, a specific release of craftbukkit beta 1.2 You can message me on discord if you want more info I guess idk

yoo

My dad bought the game for me right near the end of 2013; honestly, I can understand that statement.

so true... seeing a version i played on a tonne then going "THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO?!?"

That music makes me cry.

no you didn't spemd 10 years

​@@realcartoongirl ?

I thought the exact same thing lol, plus with that village generating towards the end and getting bigger in the versions after it really adds to the feeling of time passing

No they added new things so it will be different

Alpha just lost its world

@@realcartoongirlit wasn’t meant to be taken literally, he meant lore wise and head canon

Same tbh

yep its crazy

It nearly made me cry

what

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​I cried. I miss my old minecraft words. I used to play minecraft on an old ps3. Sadly my father formated the hard drive a while ago and now all those words only live in my memory

Yeah certain parts of the perlin noise calculations were in fact unchanged. The values used did change with biomes of course, but certain minute details still stayed the same.

Hey man, can you point to the details that stayed the same? I can’t find anything that was in b1.8 and stayed up until 1.16.5, or maybe that’s just me :(

@@samcraft3the bill in the top left corner with the small bump stayed the same terrain wise from beta 1.2 1:00 all the way until 1.16.5 10:09

Fr, i just think its insane that i started playing minecraft in around 2016, and just seeing it go by in a few minutes makes it feel like time went by *too* fast

@@-stewie- I started in early 2011. So its already almost been a decade and a half. What I'd do to relive that era again.

@@eric.waffles that means you started playing minecraft when i was 3 years old, that’s wild

its strange how you can see an echo of 1.0 in some of the 1.16 terrain, like the waterline is exactly the same shape even though the biomes have been completely transformed

@@Lord_Reeves Mostly unchanged code for the noise in specific biomes like beaches, so when they line up in multiple versions they give the same result

2012 for me

I feel a little different about this. Old school: first alpha - Beta 1.7.3 Classic Minecraft "the good ol' days" (has *that* feeling to it): Beta 1.8 - 1.7.10 Featured Minecraft (still has *that* feeling, but it's subsided for this new sort of feel): 1.8 - 1.12.2 Transitional Pains Minecraft (It feels different. This was the point where everyone was saying the game started to feel like modded Minecraft): 1.13 - 1.17.1 Modern Minecraft (Today. The world generation makes the game feel almost completely different the more you play. The new features also feel more gimmicky (not in a bad way)): 1.18-present

@@Alphie_ It's crazy how when you say "has *that* feeling to it" I exactly what you mean... Oh what I'd give to go back

​​@@Alphie_ underrated "opnion", not exactly opnion. But I agree. I just don't like people hating on the new versions because it's not nostalgic 1.13 was the "puberty" version of Minecraft, really big and desired changes, but not well executed. 1.14 also another desired change and better executed 1.15 some optimizations 1.16 a needed update, things started going on the right track 1.17-1.18 (wait, will you!? Meme). I remember seeing videos suggesting what the update could be like, but Mojang completely surprised us. 1.19 not that big of update, but a nice one. 1.20 they finnaly started adding user's and old ideas to the game 1.21 the update nobody paid attention, but also a needed one. The dungeons have not been updated since added, at least nothing major.

Mad Respect

I'm going to do the exact same in my Java world!

Rip your LP. Last updated 5 months ago

@@Bromon655 it is not death yet, it's on a halt. I gotta do some important life thingy things before I can continue with my LP. I already miss it, haven't played since then.

he too noob to get java working 😂

​@@realcartoongirlhes probably busy with life and he didnt have time to fix the issues with Alpha and infdev, Not everybody has the free time to do what they need or want so either give him credit for his effort to make this video or leave, theres no need to leave a negative comment because he didnt review a specific version of MC you wanted.

@@realcartoongirl how the hell is that a lame ass excuse??! He also put in his description and at the beginning of the video of why he couldn't do it, what? You gonna call that a lame excuse??

Skipping this comment is like living a happy life.

@@solarprogeny6736 You must live a sad life then. I'm so sorry to hear that.

That was actually a population order change, I shouldn't have changed the image since there wasn't anything inherently changed in the update

I have planned on making a video containing all the pre-beta versions, but not yet

@@Yqe- do it!

@@Yqe- DO IT!!

judging by the way you sound in your videos im going to have a guess and say you're lying

That was actually quite lucky, since so many other parts of the world generation changed. Some things did stay though and you can see it in those areas.

creative wasnt added until beta 1.8, are you sure u werent on pocket edition? it was like alpha for a long time and had creative

@@Archman155 nah it was an old pc

​@@Monkai_Monkaicould me Minecraft classic, there used to be a /fly command that gave you a glass platform you could "fly" with

I just wanted a good snow mountain generated in extreme/windswept hills with forests nearby for building, without 20 large cave openings and terrible-looking elevated plains. But it is so hard to find in 1.20

@@marixsunnyotp3142 I hate the mountains they look trash rip, the extreme hills they used to be everywhere

@@TY_Bager the new mountains are okay, but they're basically hollow due to new caves. Since I'm building with creative and commands I can easily cover the cave openings, but having large caves inside a mountain that I suppose to be filled is extremely annoying, you can't dig inside and make interior you like easily. The high altitude plains look terrible with the same vegetation colour as the plains and containing basically nothing. The steppes in biomes o' plenty looks better with different grass colour (still not my cup of tea but still)

@@TY_Bager the extreme hills now are extremely small and too broken to build on compared to old versions. I wanted to build on one because I felt nostalgic to a 1.7->1.8 world I lost, but I can't find an ideal terrain in 1.20(wanted to build in 1.20 because of more blocks and decorations(armour trims))

@marixsunnyotp3142 You could (I think?) go back and generate it in 1.7/1.8 and then move it fwd to 1.20

That happened 2 years ago but ok

Yeah Matt it's crazy.

You have become me! This is the main seed that I basically only use ever since 2017, as it was the one used in my only ever true single player world.

@@Yqe- In 2017 me, my kids and I started a multiplayer world (which my daughter already generated in 2016), and to this day we use this world. I guided it through all the small and big updates, with all new, newer and newest chunks generating around the oldes parts. 😀

I would do that if half those weren't lost (and also if I had enough time and motivation)

Due to how java randomness works, it inherently needs a starting seed to function, so every version with randomized world generation has it. Some may have started with a set seed, but I haven't checked if that is the case.

​@@Yqe- ah. Oh I also heard other people wants a part 2 to the video with the new versions are you going to do it or to busy with other things?

@@JPT2nd I'll probably eventually do it, but I have no idea when.

@@Yqe- ah alright. Nice video too

It's quite sad what happend to the minecraft franchise

im not saying i enjoy the changes but like the world gen originally: it has to go through some tweaks before it feels good and random again.

0:55 rangliand break up 1:08 Dracula and Sarkozy 1:12 Dracula and Sarkozy flooding and drifting by earthquake pulling away After 1:12 age of sand formimg

In 1:30 trees and snow formed in desert due to climate changes and a bridge water froze in somefair ice parts in Middle of darcula and Sarkozy due by D'Arcy On 1:44 June 8th 2012 climate change ends On 2:02 land has been growed in darcula

❤ 2:59 Sarkozy has no water in land in order to generate failed ❤ 3:11 on top and bottom Sarkozy has been named "Ozfork" and these two are changed colors to to climate affect even darcula and some islands even it changes land Climate affect ends in probably 2014 march ❤ 8:30 new names in ocean like Madrid Dhani Aston Martin gaskin Adrian Bangor and Dr ocean and ocean changes in 21th

8:39 few more updates till present 10:42 present

Many have done so, but you'd quickly notice one of the usual problems. 1. Getting stuck in ancient terrain. Starting in older versions means that your spawn will continue having that terrain type forever. This means that with each update you need to keep going further and further out to find new stuff. And of course, the starting terrain might get boring. 2. Finding a good time scale to do the updates is really tough. If you go too quickly you won't get to enjoy each update enough and eventually you will run out of updates, defeating the point of the playthrough. But if you go too slowly, you might get bored waiting for new stuff and just quit it altogether. I've noticed this from newer players who can't live without modern quality of life changes like shift clicking. 3. Deciding when to update and what updates to go through. Minecraft has been very inconsistant with version naming and release dates. Deciding which versions to go through is quite difficult.

A youtuber called paladin ryan us doing this

i've done it. very fun try not to generate all your strongholds before 1.0 otherwise you're gonna have to wait until 1.9

Agreed

I made a new world with the specific seed and then moved to the coordinates. I then copied the level.dat and edited it to have dirt to tower up with, and also the correct player rotation. Then I went to one version, loaded up the world with no chunks (so that everything would be generated), pillared up, rejoined (and entered exact player coordinates in the level.dat file), and then took the screenshots. After I had all the screenshots from the versions, I compared which ones actually had a difference and removed ones that were identical (otherwise clouds would keep moving around alot). The video itself was assembled manually, with me writing all the text myself based on changelogs, and also undocumented changes I noticed (like all the tree changes). In total it took around a day of work, but once I was done I felt that I could have made it better. Like for instance me starting in beta 1.0, and not entirely properly checking out every single world generation change, instead relying on the wiki. So eventually I plan on remaking the video, but I don't know if I could have the motivation to fully dig in to the code itself to know everything that changed.

@@Yqe- ah that sounds like a lot of work! 👏

what

C418 - Shunji literally been apart of the minecraft soundtrack for over 5 years

i know, for me on my xbox 360 a portion of my older worlds is kinda gone

​@@someperson_12345kinda sad and im rly mad at bedrock bc after caves and cliffs part 2 uptade my old worlds are gone on my bedrock kinda sad i have on it everything

Due to the perfectionist I am it would likely include every single alpha version that changed stuff. And not all of them are available. I have been thinking of making a comprehensive explanation of the entire history of world generation since Infdev, complete with code analysis and such. It would take a very long time to do however and I currently have other interests that I'm prioritising.

Then play it

@@Yqe- it Just doesn't feel the same way as when I was a child

1.12.2 didn't change world generation at all The most recent major additions at that point were from 1.7, released 4 years earlier

What do you think of the terrain in the 1.18 experimental snapshots?

@@zebulan1485 Well it definitely looks interesting, loving the new caves and mountains so far.

agreed. beta 1.7.3 had such a good mixture of crazy terrain for exploration/atmosphere and perfect landscapes for large builds

yes I do know that

@@Yqe- how come you dont use it for this video?

@@unrevoked7137 because I didn't want to have to go through the effort of downloading it, and every version isn't found

-1052545178 read the description

Then play it

actually true

the period between notch leaving and mojang getting sold were the worst time in general for the game imo, nearly half of the features added from b1.8 to 1.6 were half baked and obviously not playtested, it only started getting better with 1.7 where pretty much every major update since focused on fixing a problem caused by b1.8 to 1.6