History of South Africa - Episode I: The Beginning! 

Lol that's stupid

What happend before 1415. Dont be Koi with your answer.

Y didn't Portugal concur?

@@ralphjansen9205 the native africans

No !! I don’t understand why your spending so much time explaining Portugal part in this Video -- AS OTHER countries plays a much bigger part! South Africa was made by the Dutch and the British! Get your facts right and spend more time planning your videos!

😂😂😂😂😂 Mshini wam

yes that is europeans for you . so stupid

@GDemonatorWillpower

@@pvtcit9711 there are some facets of history that you just can't revise friend and that south africa first started in portugal is just that

Lazer Person bringing my own portable desalination system lol. Living in Dubai taught me well.

I wouldnt go there ever. They are about to have a civil war where they slaughter every white person within the borders. From your profile picture i assume you are black, but the country is still extremely dangerous.

Sir Richter Dangerous and Cape Town don’t belong in the same sentence. Most of my friends here in Dubai are from Cape Town and seem to move in and out with ease and tend to their properties with no conflict. Maybe you need a break from RU-vid 🤣.

@@ChefOrelleYoung I'm in Cape Town right now and it's as safe as can be 😊 I'm a 103lb white girl and have never felt threatened or unsafe, you'll be totally fine

sardonic I totally believe this.

How can you start with Portugal? 😂

@@nunyabeeswax554 Because he knows damn well whites are from Europe and not Africa.

@@nunyabeeswax554 because Vasco da Gama was the first European to "discover" the Cape, Not Jan van Riebeeck. And Google the real face of Jan van Riebeeck, he was blonde and chubby! Too much lies if yoy ask me.

The Boer will never admit that there were Black Africans in South Africa when they arrived.

@@SoniaJbrt It doesn't matter who discovered the Cape what matters is Africans were already there and their lans was taken away.

Say your school's history programme was deficient, we learn it at school.

They can’t reach you lies at school, there was never a bantu migration. But it’s Your choice if you want to learn rubbish

@@Belugacrip oh okay 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@MalkaMoon 🤣😂🤣😂litter

Emmanuel Sithagu it is. South Africa was sparsely populated by hunter gatherers groups (KhoiSan), the Bantu groups haven't moved into SA yet at the time of European arrival.

@@Phyto. the bantu actually moved in before the arrival of Europeans, however they were mostly on the East.

@@Phyto. you mad we ''bantu'' as you call us have been here for 1000s of years before europeans

@@cubancucumber lol we wouldnt tell you everything about ourselfs but we know our history

Lihle Sibiya bantu is a word used to describe the group of africans that spoke the bantu languages... its not meant to be racist or anything, its just a classification, it would be like calling someone english because they speak english (even if they are not necessarily from England, this is especially prominent when describing afrikaans and english people, we are both south africans but we are classified by our languages) ...

And I thank you! My thoughts exactly. Like someone else mentioned: the history of South AFRICA - but without a single African being mentioned

@@rynominnie83 yeah like what the hell

The history of South Africa starts in Portugal 🤣

@IM HO there's a difference between opinion and fact though. And there's also something strangely self-serving in telling the history of a country without mentioning anyone FROM that country. I don't need to start my own RU-vid channel to realize any of the

Haha thats Afrikaans white word just like voetsek which means voort se Ek.

And also the reason the Dutch's crops were failing because they were using crops that was incompatible to the climate and soil. 6:53

@Rocky Fletch Yes but the sotho people did and were in that geographical location. My point was that the map was a bid misleading in showing that the colonies had conquered more land than they actually did at that point in time.

@@goldust3212 Oh rubbish! Name a single indigenous crop grow in South Africa. Just one.

@@rochellesmal7770 More rubbish. The Sotho live in Lesotho because that is where the Zulu chased them to. They ran up into the mountains to escape the Zulu. And nobody wants to purposefully live up in those mountains. Especially as it's very cold and before the white man introduced blankets and clothing and shoes. What did the Basotho wear before the European introduced woven cloth?

@@mazambane286 My complaint is that the visuals on the map do not correctly reflect the timeline portrayed. The Mfecane started before the Dutch left the cape, the fact that they where chased to the mountains does not matter as it is still where they ended up and remained since that point. The Dutch & Zulu did not care for the mountains, as you said, and mostly avoided them so they where never conquered by either of them and they only became a British protectorate much later. It seems incorrect to mark that section of the map in 1814 as under British rule when the Dutch did not move out of the cape until 1835, so in my view the map is still misleading as it does not correctly portray the movement of the people at the time. Also, while I don't know much about the history of woven cloth I would like to point out that our species survived an Ice age before it was invented and that the Inuit survived much colder climates without woven cloth. Even if they did not have woven cloth at that point they obviously still had the ability to make clothes and more importantly did have the ability to create fire, which seems much more essential in order to survive colder climates. Honestly nothing in your comment contradicts what I said so why call it Rubbish?

`Dutchie` (Afrikaner) here. Thanks for the book reference, JCB

Agreed

And I thought my jokes were bad.

for saying south africa begins in portugal and spending the whole video not talking about what was actually happening in south africa and what it's people were doing?

He doesn't know history of South Africa this one, this is exactly what Hunt Davis was talking about. These people think African history began from Europe!😒

​@@nonickname8938Sadly the only people here when the Portuguese past here were the Koi and San. So this history sounds good to me as you can't create a history if there wasn't.

​@@andrewdutoit9571 Are you still peddling the empty land theory in 2023? Are you serious

@@yangasidziya3245 Not at all. When South Africa's History was first written there wasn't any alterior motives included. Today, the narrative will be that Jan Van Riebeek landed at the Cape and booked into the Holiday Inns and Simon van der Stel won all the wine farms in a crooked poker game from a drunk Koi whose drink was spiked by some dishonest White trash hooker.

The history of south Africa starts with the! Khwe and Xham

hawu zungu musa ukusihlaza, lomuntu uyasibhedela ukhuluma ngomlando wase south africa koda uqala le phezulu emazweni abelungu wena uyancoma ??

@@njabulomaseko2590 washaya nkabi yami , asingancomi umuntu esilulaza sinomlamdo ovuthwe kangaka singamaNguni

U are a joke as African 😂😂😂

😂🤣💯👌

Bantu expansion? Go back home bruh.. we about to vote.

Uyanya wena

​@@lindokuhlemthembu3015 They like this ke mf2, they make up their own bullsh*t history

Not colonised... Wow I can bet what your ancestors aren't African.

@goodafy tf does king Gumede KaZulu have to do with the history of south africa. The zulus first came to south africa in the late 1600 and early 1700 and then came through natal and setteld in present day kwazulu-Natal

@@itzmebuster5392 That's nonsense. Nguni people have been in South Africa as early as 300ad

Still falling for the propaganda I see

The Zulu didn't exist as a tribe in 1330 . The Bantu clans only crossed the Limpopo river about 600 years ago .

killowatra ibikio I wish.

Downtown Pretoria looks like Lagos

@@clancenix Would love to see it Urbanised.

It is urbanised?

Well they got driven off by the Bantu's and then you had 10000 people running around in an area the size of Texas.

Tseliso Molukanele my question exactly😠😠😠

But how can you prove that it didn't start in Portugal??? Because I'm an African person too.

Dangel Doodled Because there was already people there - which he failed to mention - and the low population of the area meant that Portugal wasn’t really interested in it and they never really left any impact.If he made a video about Mauritius or Reunion he’d probably be right seeing as literally nobody lived there beforehand but if anything the real turning point would be when the dutch arrive in the mid 16th century and found Cape town.

@@hwitbooi4671 1. Just because people were there doesn't mean the history of a political entity exists by default, otherwise the history of England would start long before the romans, Germany before charlagmange ect. 2. The native history is not known anyway so either way it still flies

@@davidhobbs5679 All isn’t completely unknown - Although it is true that a lot isn’t known because the original peoples didn’t have any written history. I just thought it was something he should have mentioned

Lol

KLM From the first lying words out of his mouth.

This is a stupid and pointless comment if you're not going to be more specific.

It is accurate though

We Are Watching You Humans what Africa history? The only people that populated SA were the KhoiSan hunter gatherers.

Yep Fuck this guy. So eurocentric and biased

@@Phyto. you do know that koisans are still African right?

@@Phyto. I am so welcoming the expropriation of land. Its gonna be beautiful to finally see you people kicked out of the land. You talk so much crap, and then you victimize yourself when the native blacks get sick of your antics. Everyone with any common sense knows the whites in SA are finished. But sure keep on with those lies. There where Xhosa, Zulu not to mention the KhoiSan still exist and live and have gone nowhere. I also dont see whties caring about Khoisan in any other way except to use them to further your filthy lies. Dont worry there are many ways to get you people to leave South Africa, and soon it will be more intense.

@Adrian Bradey Its all vauge as its taught by Oral Tradition which is unreliable at best. Since nobody bothered writing anything down or building anything lasting the biggest things that happened close to South Africa were Kilwa and the Kingdom of Zimbabwe.

and u should be ashamed

your ancestors in portugal?

Still waiting...

how is it awesome when the people of the land are not even mentioned, is South Africa in Europe or what, all this says is europeans got to South Africa

The amaXhosa never reached south of the Great Fish River. No Xhosa or any Bantu can claim any land in the Cape outside of the Transkei. Hamba msunu

and the 1660 war with Khoikhoi

@@nonickname8938 The Khoi are not Bantu though. The Khoi are indigenous to Southern Africa. The Bantu are not! As they hail from West Africa. And are recent arrivals in Southern Africa. In fact the Bantu arrived in South Africa after the Boers. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

@@mazambane286 what did I say about Bantu?

@@nonickname8938 Why mention the 1660 war with the Khoi?

He already starts with inaccuracies about Portugal . Firstly, there were no people on Madeira so it was not colonised. Islam had conquered Iberia so Reconquisita was justfied.

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Thank you!!!

Your comment is the best and way so underrated 🎖

@Rocky Fletch Well, this is not about generalizations but rather about vast Eurocentric misrepresentations

@@transcribemusic trust me in this - don't even try to reason with that troll. Next up he's gonna tell you that you're lazy for not making your own video on the subject instead of voicing your opinion on this misleading video I myself am a white South African and am proud of my (mostly) Dutch heritage, but I'm not naive enough to believe that there was nothing here before "my people" got here. Nor am I stupid enough to think that the history of my country started in Portugal in the 1400s (hence "The Beginning" in the title)

I love the way he has drama when he explains this story

that is because the video is missing some important facts

And naturally you care nothing about the other 92% of citizens who's history was completely glassed over in this... You really are not different to your ancestors.

The Khoi-khoi and Khoisans were a - now extinct - nomadic people who never ever got any culture going. We know them as strandlopers and bushmen. They didn't even make good slaves since they were too weak for hard work and fell sick easily. That's why the VOC imported slaves from Malaysia and Java. Now the Xhosa arrived in SA much later, a Bantu splinter group on the run from the mighty Zulu nation during a migration period. Guess that was only in the early 1800s. And in so far the historians are right when they claim that SA wasn't a black country, when the Portuguese, Dutch, French and English arrived.

@@orcaflotta7867 you're very toxic

@@vuyonjoli2549 Ya. So? I'm not here to soothe your nerves and make friends and similar BS, I'm only here to tell you what I know. The facts may be toxic. Too bad.

@@orcaflotta7867 You mean the same ones who were hiding artifacts when they debunked the empty land myth? Or the same ones who were claiming every African civilization was made by some lost tribe of Europeans? Funny how archeological says different to your revisionist history.

@@WilliamGarrow "You mean the same ones who were hiding artifacts when they debunked the empty land myth?" Sorry, English isn't one of my favourite languages but as I understood your sentence the ones who debunked the empty land myth also hid artifacts? That makes no sense and would totally debunk their debunking. Also what artifacts exactly? "Or the same ones who were claiming every African civilization was made by some lost tribe of Europeans?" Never heard of bullshit like that.I wouldn't believe it anyway. Europeans would first had had to get darker skin to do so. And why the fuk should they do that anyway. "Funny how archeological says different to your revisionist history." I never heard an archeologue say anything about it. I only read books and what contemporaries said about the cape area when they landed here. It's not my fault that all indigenous ppl they met were tiny, semi-starved and had not even tools advanced more than some flintstones. They were by all evidence a splinter group of the khoisans or khoikhois or whatever their name was. They called those little guys "strandlopers"(beachcombers), like they called their brethren up north in nowadays Namibia "bosmen" (bushmen). And when you have a look at the few survivors you'll see they don't have much in common with the proud Bantu warriors, which appeared on the scene around 200 years later. And now I'm getting angry with you. For realsies! How dare you calling it my "revisionist history"? You unspeakably evil meaniepooface moron! How dare you??? I said from the beginning that is what I know to be true. I have no political agenda and no interest in the whole thing. But try to think for a moment with your brain, not with whatever political agenda you must follow: If the Dutch merchants and first settlers had found any evidence of a functioning culture at the cape, they wouldn't have built a veggie garden and a village around it but just bought the veggies from the pre-existing culture. Or stolen. Or started a war. But obviously here was nothing worth to be stolen or waste bullets on. Not even a kraal or anything like that in the vicinity.

South Africa like Australia and Papua do not have civilization, no writing script, no university no mathematic no city, no medieval city with grand sophisticated architecture like Morocco, Spain, Arabia, Europe and India. no money, no palaces, castle, monument no Angkor Wat, Prambanan or Taj Mahal. Swahili coast rule by Omani Arab that why they used Arabic script. Mali copy Arab culture. and European bring civilization to Sub-sahara black, that why black easy to enslaved because of lack of civilization no Chinese, Arab, Indian, Malay, Thai, Korean, Persian be capture easily in larges number and ship to America, they easy to obey

As far as this video goes you people weren't in the picture yet.

Never felt more disrespected

It’s of course looking at it with a European perspective, as well as looking at what will be context for all the things that go down later on. He could talk about Khoi people’s living there for thousands of years but but it doesn’t matter a huge amount I what he will be trying to get at

@@gabrielseaborn257 the audacity ☹

Kamogelo Moloto What? The Europeans and Bantus brought conflict, and therefore they will be talked about. I think he could have acknowledged the native people of South Africa at first, but he didn’t. So we can’t really change that.

Sunny A And he lies a lot too.

A risk money was took from a friend who invented in AUTOMATE Company. In 1 hour ago.

"non-colonial history." That makes no sense. There is no history of South Africa before it became South Africa. SA's history starts at 1653. The video is about the country, not the region.

South Africa didn't exist before then.

@@c.b.s.3495 The landmass did, of course but the political entity indeed did not exist.

@@orcaflotta7867 Of course. Did you know that the people referred to as Black South Africans are not Native to South Africa? They actually arrived AFTER the Boers. Isn't that interesting?

What happened after Mapungubwe was built, did the people forget how to put one stone upon another or did the ones who built it pass away and he wasn't a nGuni as why did the building style not continue?

Who invented compensation and reparations? Hm? Hahaha

6:30 no gold, no diamonds, no platinum just veggies and cows 😉

Emma Lee Franklin wrong lol, it's Nah Mib

He moved up there because he was 'rutherless' with his orders. He is damaging and sadistic. He does get off on it. They had handlers in place that are elevated slaves that will have weapons. Or they just have elevated weapon slaves that are controlled and will listen to direction. They follow it out of fear of others and often because sadists themselves. They are promised things but are ultimately killed by another elevated with a directive. Frank will have a weapon himself to maim and torture others directly. They put on shows for slaves so they follow direction. That is how they become feared.

People need to learn about that.

Don’t waste your breath

How many more, dude, you're talking over a thousand years and there are only two ruins? And nobody is sure who built them for certain!

me too

It has already been told i.e. Mapungubwe and Great Zimbabwe

It's told in izithakazelo it doesn't go into detail but at least you get the gist of what was happening and who is who. Or am I wrong?

​@@Paballo_KgotleI really dispute that Mapungubwe and the Great Zimbabwe were built by Africans as what happened afterwards? Why isn't there any other like ruins been found anywhere else in Southern Africa built on the same style, did the Architects who built them die and the Africans just could do the stone work because those rwo ruins aren't just from a few centuries ago.

@@andrewdutoit9571 ok, aliens built them 👍

@@Paballo_Kgotle I fear you may be right, they called arabs.