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History of the Hungarian People’s Republic (PART 11: War prisoners and reparations) 

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This episode discusses Hungarian war prisoners and reparations to the USSR.
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SOURCES:
L. P. Lochner, ed. The Goebbels Diaries
Kertesz, Diplomacy in a Whirlpool
Tamás Stark, “Malenki Robot”
Joseph B. Schechtman, Postwar Population Transfers in Europe: A Survey. The Review of Politics, Vol. 15, No. 2 (Apr., 1953)
From the vanguard to the margins: workers in Hungary, 1939 to the present: selected essays by Mark Pittaway
Motive rumäniendeutscher Freiwilliger zum Eintritt in die Waffen-SS, in Die Waffen-SS, Neue Forschungen, ed. Jan Erik Schulte, Bernd Wegner, and Peter Lieb. Krieg in der Geschichte, Volume: 74, 2014
Henry A. Fischer, Hungarian Ethnic Germans in Waffen SS, part III
Edgar Snow, Peoples On Our Side
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Regarding the de-industrialization of Germany, see for example the "Morganthau plan"
Edgar Snow, Stalin Must Have Peace
A. A. Grechko, Liberation Mission of the Soviet Armed Forces in the Second World War
Paul Lendvai, The Hungarians
Halasz, Unkari: kuvitettu tietoteos
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Jörg K. Hoensch, A history of modern Hungary
Ernst Helmreich, Hungary
Eric Roman, Hungary and the victor powers, 1945-1950
Krisztián Ungváry, Hungarian Occupation Forces in the Ukraine 1941-1942: The Historiographical Context, The Journal of Slavic Military Studies Volume 20, 2007 - Issue 1
Aptheker, The truth about Hungary
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Csaba Békés, The Communist Parties and the National Issue in Central and Eastern Europe (1945-1947)
Árpád Pünkösti, Rákosi a hatalomért
Bela Zhelitski, "Postwar Hungary, 1944-1946" in The establishment of communist regimes in Eastern Europe, 1944-1949, ed. Norman Naimark & Leonid Gibianskii
Tismaneanu, Stalinism revisited
Documents on the hostile activity of the United States Government against the Hungarian People’s Republic
mltheory2.file...
Pünkösti Árpád, Rákosi a csúcson 1948-1953
László Borhi, Hungary in the Cold War, 1945-1956: between the United States and the Soviet Union
Rakosi, Speech at the Introduction of the Budget for 1953 in the National Assembly
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• RAKOSI: "Speech at the...
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Комментарии : 71   
@kawadashogo8258
@kawadashogo8258 Год назад
I always greatly look forward to these Hungary videos, and the instant I see that a new one has been uploaded I jump to it. This is an excellent and much-needed series. Your hard work is much appreciated, comrade.
@jmagowan12
@jmagowan12 Год назад
Let it be known comrade this is a masterpiece!
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 Год назад
Very interesting, and insightful analysis, especially about the relations of fascist war criminals in the war prisoners. That 95% of Transylvanian German men joined the Waffen-SS really is a scary number Oh also, in plural it would be "Volksdeutsche", not "Volksdeutsch"
@thefinnishbolshevik2404
@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Год назад
Its an astonishing number
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 Год назад
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 it does explain why the SS actually recruited from Volksdeutschen first to refill their ranks, and the Wehrmacht only second
@pedrocavalcante5822
@pedrocavalcante5822 Год назад
Were there many ethnic Germans in Transylvania?
@thefinnishbolshevik2404
@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Год назад
@@pedrocavalcante5822 half a million if I remember correctly. More than in Hungary itself.
@parallax9084
@parallax9084 Год назад
Can you please provide a source for this. Also do you maybe have a number for the amount of germans that joined the waffen SS in vojvodina (northern serbia)
@arjunbanerjee3475
@arjunbanerjee3475 Год назад
Thanks for all the work you do, comrade. Always learning from each of your videos ❤
@ZOGGYDOGGY
@ZOGGYDOGGY Год назад
I think that Admiral Horthy ended up living in Portugal after WWII. He was helped there by a conservative American. This, after Hungary had sent troops to aid Hitler in the invasion of the Soviet Union in June, 1941. I suspect that there are a lot of conservatives nationalists who still see Salazar as a hero, as there are citizens of Hungary who see Horthy as one. IMO, neither General Franco nor Horthy or Trump are/were fascists, but they were/are conservative nationalists who have used fascists to support their political power. Of course, fascists like Hitler and Mussolini did come to the aid of Franco during the civil war in Spain. And Franco, returned the favour by allowing 'the Blue Division' to be formed to help in the invasion of the Soviet Union. I would be curious to know more about Mannerheim's involvement aiding the fascist cause during WWII. Wasn't Mannerheim involved with the military planning for Operation Barbarossa? Isn't Mannerheim still the most revered leader in Finland?
@someesingh2827
@someesingh2827 Год назад
Brilliant video comrade! What are your plans for the next video? Just curious....
@Cartmanpov
@Cartmanpov Год назад
Could you explain why the Berlin wall was built?
@breadtheory
@breadtheory Год назад
Extreme amounts of espionage and infiltration of West German and other Western capitalist spies into GDR. I remember watching a (BBC?) documentary where they showed tunnels used by the Western spies to infiltrate GDR. The wall was to prevent that.
@spitoon
@spitoon Год назад
Stasi state or socialist paradise is a good book
@Cartmanpov
@Cartmanpov Год назад
@@spitoon Thank you!
@Oslya1
@Oslya1 Год назад
​@@CartmanpovI'm against the Berlin wall but I understand why it was constructed to protect the East German masses from ex-Nazis that the West German puppet government that serve their US overlords. I just wish the Western part of Berlin was liberated by the National People's Army and reunited with the GDR.
@nonono4160
@nonono4160 Год назад
You mean why did they erect a border between two states? Now, that's a tough question (if you are five)
@slipknotboy555
@slipknotboy555 Год назад
Great video as always!
@potatoman7604
@potatoman7604 Год назад
Actually not all Germans were deported from Poland and Czechoskovakia. Those that could prove to have been active in the anti-fascist resistance were allowed to stay (as were their families). They were regarded as heroes and valued citizens.
@thefinnishbolshevik2404
@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Год назад
correct
@anshumanjaiswal5787
@anshumanjaiswal5787 Год назад
​@@thefinnishbolshevik2404comrade. I have an important question regarding climate change. Please answer. It is an important querry.
@Salomane
@Salomane Год назад
Wonderful info
@shayan99999
@shayan99999 Год назад
36:40 Why did the soviets want the Hungarians not to send a delegation to Paris for the Marshall plan?
@thefinnishbolshevik2404
@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Год назад
Because the marshall plan was a way for the USA to make European countries reliant on itself and to export the crisis of overproduction from the USA to the marshallized countries
@parallax9084
@parallax9084 Год назад
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 I have heard of westerners making the argument that the USSR destroyed eastern europe by not allowing them to take the marshall plan. I completely disagree in this though and believe that all eastern european nations would remain unindustrialized, semi-feudal, illiterate colonial states just like during the inter-war period. What is the argument against this marshall plan argument?
@genbab6989
@genbab6989 Год назад
@@parallax9084 There is the point that the Marshall Plan would be given if and only if there was a market economy.
@parallax9084
@parallax9084 Год назад
@@genbab6989 yeah so their point is that the market economy should be the only one to exist in the first place. And that the USSR "ruined" eastern europe
@SyrianSocialist_
@SyrianSocialist_ Год назад
Great vid finbol , but when is the hungarian revolution vid ?
@kawadashogo8258
@kawadashogo8258 Год назад
He's been making vids about the Hungarian revolution this whole time. Or are you referring to the fascist counterrevolution?
@SyrianSocialist_
@SyrianSocialist_ Год назад
​@@kawadashogo8258the one that the westoids always mention to call us tankies 😂😂
@theaconite1400
@theaconite1400 Год назад
​@kawadashogo8258 I'd certainly like to learn about that counterrevolution since I basically only know about it from people saying "see communism bad because tanks sent to Hungary".
@niart4600
@niart4600 Год назад
Hey comrade, first of all I love everything you do, you are a great force for the proletarian movement. I do have a criticism. Your video on Maoism some years ago, in my opinion, suffers from a lack of investigation. If I could give a couple suggestions, I would recommend reading "A White Proletariat?" by MIM and the founding documents of the PCP. In my opinion, to say that the practice of revolutionary China contributed nothing to Marxism is an anti-scientific and dogmatic world outlook. The growth of the bourgeoisie within the party, New Democracy, PPW, and an expansion of dialectics are all fundamental advancements in theory, based in the practice of the PRC.
@ulyanov4704
@ulyanov4704 Год назад
Is it true that Finland had to cede territories to the USSR because they were involved in the siege of Leningrad?
@kawadashogo8258
@kawadashogo8258 Год назад
Finland was a fascist state allied with Nazi Germany, and paid the price for that. The USSR was actually extremely lenient toward Finland, considering the circumstances. All the Soviets wanted was a better buffer zone to protect one of their most important cities.
@angelobarros3499
@angelobarros3499 Год назад
Hello comrade, I would like to know where I could read those speeches by comrade Rakosi in english... I can barely find them anywhere save a few... Mainly on the indian website revolutionary democracy
@thefinnishbolshevik2404
@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Год назад
There's some on my blog here mltheory.wordpress.com/2017/06/11/marxist-leninist-theory/
@angelobarros3499
@angelobarros3499 Год назад
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Thank you Finbol
@tymanung6382
@tymanung6382 Год назад
Do you plan to also cover Hungarian Council Republic? &/or 1956? Some see all.3 as.examples of workers democracies . but were they really different, they had same form.but different political.contents?
@tymanung6382
@tymanung6382 Год назад
Koszonom, Thank you in Magyar).
@thefinnishbolshevik2404
@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Год назад
Yes I do
@pedrocavalcante5822
@pedrocavalcante5822 Год назад
I know a girl who married a German of Hungarian heritage. And when I asked, she told me, that he reported to her that her grandfather was sent to a prison in Siberia after Hungary was liberated by the Red Army.
@fun_ghoul
@fun_ghoul 11 месяцев назад
Maybe his Grampa was a Nazi.
@Coyle-qy3jj
@Coyle-qy3jj Год назад
Hey, can you talk about ingrian finns genocide? I think it happened in finland and people use it as a anti-stalin argument.
@n0110
@n0110 Год назад
Blud really has no credibility or sources eat shit from Simo Hayek ^_^
@genbab6989
@genbab6989 Год назад
Hello Finbol, big fan of the channel for a while. I wanted to ask if you have ever read Settlers by J.Sakai? If so, what are your thoughts on it?
@h.p.lovecraft6904
@h.p.lovecraft6904 Год назад
This is just feels like a lefty version of Evropa: The Last Battle
@panxd26
@panxd26 Год назад
Was the Greek revolution betrayed by Stalin or is this just a trotskyist lie?
@thefinnishbolshevik2404
@thefinnishbolshevik2404 Год назад
The Soviets supported the first successful revolutionary war in Greece. I think the Greeks launched a second adventurist uprising because Tito told them to do it. And when it failed Tito closed the border, making it impossible for them to escape, and then made an alliance with the Greek fascist government. While Tito betrayed them, the USSR kept giving the Greek communists aid through Bulgaria and Albania. The Greek communists escaped to the USSR. Their leader Zachariadis was imprisoned by Khrushchev and the party was smashed and purged by revisionists.
@kawadashogo8258
@kawadashogo8258 Год назад
@@thefinnishbolshevik2404 I know people are always barraging you with requests for videos, so sorry to do this lol, but I think it would be awesome if you made a video about the Greek revolution someday. Of course it would require some rigorous research to filter out all the lies and distortions, so it's a lot to ask. But just someday if you have the time I think that would be cool.
@Va-jx8ye
@Va-jx8ye Год назад
I have started studying communism recently and have some questions about it: 1. What will be the incentive for a worker to work under communism? Who will force him/her to work? 2. What will be the force stopping groups of workers from collectively stopping to work? 3. What will happen to police?(an organisation, declaring laws on a population and punishing for their violations can be considered a state)? 4. Will workers have the right to have weapons under communism? 5. Under communism, will the workers of different jobs work the same amount of hours per day? P.S Why did you delete my comment about my mother's negative experience in USSR?
@waltonsmith7210
@waltonsmith7210 Год назад
The organization that does that stuff. That's wholl force them to work. There's all kinds of incentives one could think of besides money. I don't know why you're married to this one horrible way of doing things
@Va-jx8ye
@Va-jx8ye Год назад
@@waltonsmith7210 1. Look at question number 2. 2. If not money, then what?
@theaconite1400
@theaconite1400 Год назад
1. Under "pure full-blown" communism, the incentive to work would probably include an enjoyment or satisfaction of the job, the need or desire for whatever is produced from that job, and perhaps over things that would depend on the material conditions that resulted in the building of communism. I would think their would either be some kind of collective pressure to encourage people to work or people would simply work for the previously noted reasons. 2. Refer back to 1. Basically if they decided collectively to stop working, I'm not sure there would be a force to force them back to work and I'm not sure it would matter anyway. 3. There would no longer be police in the way we currently think of them. There would probably be some kind of collective law enforcement but I don't think we can guess exactly what it would be like. It would depend on the material conditions from now through socialism and into communism. 4. Probably 5. Again I don't think this is answerable as it would depend on the material conditions that gave rise to the formation of communism. These are interesting questions to think about but they definitely come from a starting point of Idealism (the philosophy) and not Dialectical Materialism. Marxism and the best forms of Anarchism are based on Dialectical Materialism not Idealism so it makes answering these types of questions problematic.
@theaconite1400
@theaconite1400 Год назад
Questions about socialism in a given place and time (past, present, or near future) are probably a lot more productive than speculative questions about communism in the far future.
@derpjesus3468
@derpjesus3468 Год назад
@@theaconite1400 There is a lot of poverty in my country, it is also true that communism will not only bring much more poverty (we would become another Venezuela or Cuba), but also the loss of our freedoms and social rights. And the vast majority of Peruvians want to be free, we do not want to end up emigrating en masse to the USA or other countries because of the misery and the suppression of freedom that communism brings. We do not want dictators of the right or left. We want to perfect our weak democracy and maintain our civil rights and liberties, which has proven to be the best system of government in history. Wouldn't you reject that your President forcibly close your Congress, change your Constitution and take away your liberties? What Peru is currently experiencing is the attack by the extreme left infiltrated by the movement Sendero Luminoso. The blockade of roads and the setting fire to public institutions such as airports and the looting of private institutions is not a social protest but the attack by Sendero Luminoso, the Maoist extremist group that already caused the death of more than 70,000 Peruvians in the 80s and 90s. The extremists support Castillo who has the same Maoist Marxist thought and who tried unsuccessfully to shut down Congress and become a dictator. According to police intelligence reports, 8,000 people are causing the damage, many of them with proven ties to Sendero Luminoso.
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