HMS Bristol (Type 82) - Lone Survivor 

Love to see more of these as you get an opportunity. Loved it!

Sorry a bit of an odd duck of a question perhaps, but would you be able to ask CPO Griffin if his book would be available as an e-book (would rather like for a kindle version (or other e-book formats) given that I'm currently unable to be collecting large amounts of physical books as I once was) Secondly, any "one-off" type classes you'd like to go into detail for a future video?

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That was one of the most profound things I've ever heard you say. The thing you said about receiving a book from someone and because you got to hear stories about what happened by the people that were there actually made the history come alive a lot more than just the facts of what happened. And that is because when something is happening there are numerous people there & so you get multiple points of view because of the different perspectives. One person may see a lot of things that someone else did not. And so it's NOT just something that happened, it's something a lot of people experienced.

I remember this one from the heyday of the Cold War, the one really powerful surface ship in the RN. That Navy in the Cold War really baffles me. Even after the Empire was gone, they just kept on building as many warships as they could.... instead of the best ones they knew how. This quantity over quality approach make them seem like the Red Army of the seas!

I had the same thought reading the title before watching. I thought Cold War or Missile stuff was off limits

I had the same though as well. Thought Drach might have hit his head on something.

Seems Drach is running out of pre 1950s ships.😅 No, we can't be that far in can we?

The gates just opened for Cold War era ships then 😮, but for real I would never complain about the type of ships that drach reviews since his quality in videos are unmatched 👍

@@TrickiVicBB71 the exception is if he can get someone who is a subject matter expert on the ship/system being discussed.

Yes. That was excellent. It seems like a lot of people have big ideas about saving storied ships, but it turns out saving a ship is the easy part.

While all true, ultimately most of it does come down to government bureaucracy and regulations.

Ikr never though he would post a ship out of the 1940s haha. Would be cool to see other cold war ships though, such as HMS Hermes, Ark Royal, Type 42 destroyers etc.

He said he'd do more modern ones if he had a guest, so he could blame any breach of classified info on them. Presumably he'll also go beyond 1950 if he's at the physical ship since he has mentioned visiting Nautilus if possible.

@@kanrakucheese I wonder what he would cover if he did a colab with the Mighty Jingles?

Drac has said since the beginning he will always welcome any of anyone with modern post 1950s experience or study and his posts

@@jon-paulfilkins7820 Both Drach and Jingles have appeared together for quite a few episodes of "Armchair Admirals" in the World of Warships channel talking about various WW 2-related events (Arctic convoys, Taranto, etc.) -- there's even one episode where they both appeared alongside Indy and Spartacus on the Pearl Harbor episode! 😀

What? push ups? Clearly push ups

@@AIRRAID2 deep full penetrating push-ups

As a young man, its a part of your life, its your home away from home, its booring day after day, its hard work and beeing seasick, it sucks most of the time, but after all when you are thru with it, you have done something, you are a part of something, and as an older man it makes you proud having been part of something larger than yourself.....

Ah, sadly I hated it. A terrible interviewee who couldn’t even remember to mention Bristol’s key design weapon system of Sea Dart nor explain the gleamingly obvious lack of a helicopter hangar, and had to be regularly prompted by yourself. Crew anecdotes are interesting as a sideshow, but the Drach channel is founded upon historical factuals. Would’ve been so much better if you’d done the research and presentation yourself.

Loved him on that panel. When I heard his voice I was like "WAIT A MINUTE!" HEH

I was on Bristol then, Toronto was one of the best visits I ever went on, We were so well looked after by locals, Our Mess was ‘Adopted’ by a local Rowing Club!

​@@davidbaglee7738 I'm glad to hear it is as happy a memory for you as it is for me.

Bristol also seems like she had a *lot* of room for more armament than what she carried. I have no idea how expensive that would've been, but it seems like a major refit that stripped out the steam engines, moved the Sea Dart launcher slightly so that the empty aft space could be used for full helicopter facilities, and replaced the Ikara launcher with a second Sea Dart launcher, that would've made for a really good destroyer.

@@RedXlV The trouble with a double-ended Sea Dart arrangement is that you don't really get much benefit out of it unless you add more Type 909 fire control radars, and those things are BIG and awkward. You can't just put them on masts: the radar and the 'office' underneath it and one unit, so it has to be mounted on superstructure. They did design a double-ended 'Type 43' in the late 1970s, but it still ended up at 7000ish tons.

Excellent idea!

The Type 42's were smaller at 120ish meters in Batch 1 and 2 ships...but ended up needed to be enlarged by Batch 3 because of seakeeping issues. Bristol was a better design outright

VLS cells make modern warships look empty.

It's like owning any other vehicle. It's not the buying, it's the maintaining and housing after. The older it gets, the more maintaining required.

Which is a shame.

The navy wanted cruisers but had the nouse to call the destroyers to get them past the treasury.. As for her being a museum ship... Can't help but think health and safety will destroy this country completely one day...

While Bristol is the size of a cruiser, she only had the armament of a destroyer. I always found it inexplicable that the Type 82 was designed with so much empty space and made so little use of its size.

@@RedXlV Even though contemporary American ships made her look paltry, she was still the most powerfully-armed ship then-built for the Royal Navy. BRISTOL's design originated in the post-war cruiser studies, and she was used for "cruiser duties." More tentatively, in the sales sheet to which CPO Griffin refers in the video (the one where they say she MUST be scrapped), she was described as a light cruiser - recognition for what she was, at last. (I will kick myself forever for not saving a copy.) 😊

@@jaisheelal4006 I was more comparing Bristol to her immediate predecessors, the Type 42 destroyers. While they have a significantly smaller Sea Dart magazine, otherwise they're 3/5 Bristol's displacement but *almost* match her armament (especially once Ikara got retired, since it was replaced by nothing instead of installing any new weapons in that now-empty forward deck space) while also having a hangar for the helicopter. And the Type 42 Batch 3 (enlarged to 2/3 Bristol's displacement) even included room to expand the Sea Dart magazine to almost as large as Bristol's, though for whatever reason (presumably the Royal Navy's eternal budget shortfalls) this option was never utilized. I feel like Bristol would've been an exceptional ship for her era if all that empty deck space aft had been utilized for a hangar (given her greater beam than the Type 42s possibly even hangars for *2* Lynxes) while raising the Sea Dart launcher so that it fires over the top of the hangar. Then replacing the Ikara launcher with a second Sea Dart launcher forward. Also, given that Sea Dart and ASROC are very similar in both length and diameter, it seems as if it wouldn't have been that difficult to modify the Sea Dart launcher to be compatible with both missiles (like what the US Navy later did with Standard MR and ASROC with the Mark 26 launcher). And instead of installing new steam turbines after they were destroyed in that original fire, just replace them with another pair of Olympus gas turbines.

Yes, very exciting when she visited Bristol in the early 80s

Yes, it would be great to save her as a RN Falklands war memorial ship.

@@99IronDuke HMS Amuscade is coming back from Pakistan for a museum in Scotland.

Had even just the initial pair of the carriers been built, there never would've been a Falklands War. Argentina would've never dared to pick a fight with a Royal Navy *that* powerful. It would also be interesting to see how the Royal Navy handled replacing the Phantoms when the time came. Would they have made a "Sea Tornado"? Bought some F-14s? Just held out with the Phantoms into the 90s and replaced it with a "Sea Typhoon"?

A Sea Tornado and Sea Typhoon would have been quite likely. Maybe the French would have stayed in the program too, instead of developing their own carrier planes, like the Rafale. Typhoon and Sea Typhoon probably would have become a multirole fighters? 🤺😉

Types 10-29 = ASW frigates Types 30-39 = GP frigates Types 40-59 = AA destroyers Types 60-79 = ADW destroyers Types 80-99 = multi-role sloops/destroyers Ships are assigned Type numbers at the design stage, so the gaps (such as why the RN is going from T23 to T26 frigates) represent designs that were proposed but never ordered.

@@jozg44 Thank you very much from the colonies.

Lord Drachinfel!

@@tbjtbj7930 St Drachinfel, the Patron Saint of Naval Gunnery. 😉