That’s nice meanwhile there country is falling apart and getting invaded by migrants but they’ll never forget that experience. I’ve forgotten mine as I lie here in the cold, hungry
She looks such a small ship to make such a journey. Mind you, she's about 3 times the length of HMS Bounty which puts Captain Bligh's skills in 1789 in perspective.
@@BlueSteel331 I wasn't aware of that but my home town of Dun Laoghaire in Ireland is linked to him. When it was decided to build the magnificent Dun Laoghaire harbour to give safe anchorage to ships, Bligh made a survey of the bay in 1800. I often think about him when I walk on the East pier of the harbour.
Wasnt that the Bull walls of Dublin port?, sand drifts on the Approaches were causing problems to shipping, bligh was given the jobs to sort something out.
@JohnDoe-ee6qs I understand Bligh was engaged to look at the silting problems but they didn't accept all his recommendations. Fascinating man. Imagine that he first went to sea around the age of 8 years.
It is an extraordinary place! Visited there in HMS Monmouth in 1995. Took some guts in the part of the Bounty mutineers to land there and then maroon themselves by burning the ship to the waterline!
Great to see the RN in the Pacific! HMS Tamar was also the name of the old navy base in Hong Kong. Been there a few times in my RAN days, including the junior sailors’ bar on the 14th(?) floor of the Prince of Wales building… 🤣🇦🇺
@@Cheeseatingjunlista mate, I saw in 1990 there! The headaches were real! I also remember a Pom with a Mini Clubman pick up 6 of us one afternoon after we staggered out of the POW building and poured us out at the far end. Our CO and XO happened to be at the gangway, and were far from pleased. There were consequences…🤣🇦🇺 Wasn’t there a bowling alley on one floor as well?
@@NoName-ds5uq That was at the old Fleet Club, half a mile along the harbour, outside Tamar, ground floor, on the way to Wanchai.........many games and dangers just beyond.........😁
I agree, it’s great to see the RN in the pacific after its fleet has been cutback so much after WW2. Although, plans are underway to expand the RN and pivot towards the pacific again with the new ships and nuclear submarines being built in the U.K.. but we aren’t building them quicker enough and will need to reopen old shipyards to build up the fleet. Also, there’s a problem with recruiting new naval personnel because of politics but recruits can also be from the commonwealth as well.
Visited there on the Puma, 1968. Too rough to get ashore. Pretty sure we were anchored in the same place. The Islanders were superb boatmen and managed to pick up the supplies we were carrying. The Headman, name of Christian came onboard. Big strong man. A lot of us were fishing, catching dorado which ended up in the Chinese laundry.
@@Cheeseatingjunlista Yes. by way of Gibraltar, Simonstown, Beira patrol, Mombasa, Aden evacuation, Singapore ( refit ), Hong Kong and then to Australia and the pacific islands, USA, Mexico, Panama Canal, Kingston then back to Guz. Best commission ever.
@@timothykelly7974 Was in Aden as a child on our way back to UK after our first tour in HK, on the P&O Oriana. I remember us standing off the port a little way with Ribs with armed marines in patrolled round the ship. We had just come from Ceylon where Civil War had broken not long out after we left. Heading north, we went thru Suez, with the 67 war breaking out a couple of months later. You seem to have left no similar trails of chaos!! Sounds utterly fantastic your trip, wish I'd managed that myself- alas Aden still in the chaos today. Good continuing luck to you.
@@Cheeseatingjunlista Well thank you for your kind remarks. The world was a fairly peaceful place in the days I served. I was very lucky in the ships I served on. All long range diesel frigates which were sent to the most remote places. We could travel 10,000 miles at economic cruising speed, 10 knots. The ship had 8 main engines and to go across the pacific we generally ran on one engine, driving one prop, giving us 10 knots. I missed out a couple of places the puma visited. Falkland islands, South Georgia and way down the Antarctic peninsula to Deception island. Sailing in and around massive icebergs. Such beauty in the pristine seascape.
Visited Pitcairn Island when serving on HMS JAGUAR also visited Fiji, Tahiti in the same period of time. Finally the COOK Islands and on towards the Panama Canal
Missed this by a few days, landed a few days after they left, was on Azamara onward, landed over 200 passengers for the day, it was my 110th country, so a really big deal for me.
Keep it going, good job mates. My son is named Christian after officer Fletcher, “mutiny on the Bounty”, marlon Brando, good movie. The sun never sets on the Empire. Fare winds and following seas Sailors! 🇬🇧🇺🇸.
Some years ago I was selling books on a well known auction site. One was bought by a chap on Pitcairn Island. The book? A recounting of The Mutiny Aboard HMAV Bounty using part of Capt. Bligh's log with additional notes.
Avoiding the dangers of a lee shore...? Bridge team constantly monitoring anchorage bearings..? Main machinery at 5mins notice.? Let's hope the holding ground is good.
Calling a bunch of unarmed people in rubber dinghies the same level as The Normans is very pathetic lol. Most ‘invaders’ come via air travel and overstay visas. Not by rubber boats in the channel English people never cease to fail me on their lack of awareness on their own country 😂
I know the island due a visit of a Dutch TV presenter. (Floortje Dessing🥰) She visited the island twice, and stayed there for a while to join the people who are living there. Very interesting, but too remote for me.
@@trevorhart545 Which part of coast guard ships do you not understand? Coast guard ships with a crew of less than 20 (Compared to 35) are similarly armed and never leave a country's territorial waters. RN's River-class offshore patrol vessels are performing the same duties as the coast guard of most nations. BTW, the non-ocean going patrol vessels i.e. even gun boats of most other countries' navy are better equipped than the RN's River-class offshore patrol vessels.
Yes that's it's roll it's an OPV not a warship. UK does not have a separate Coast Guard the Royal Navy also covers such duties. All it has is a 20mm gun they're for border protection, anti-smuggling & fishery patrols not fighting wars. With that said they're outfitted with the same BAES CMS-1 combat management system you will find on the frigates & its Terma Scanter 2D radar can support fire control. If the need ever arises they can be quickly up gunned as the base infrastructure is already there to take more powerful weapon's such as defensive & anti-ship missiles.
Imagine if HMS Tamar had gone through a timewarp and arrived at Pitcairn as the mutineers were arriving; that would have given Fletcher and his mates a big fright ... And The Bounty is one ship that Tamar might have half a chance of beating in a fight too.
Half a chance? The HMS Tamar has 30mm guns with an effective range of 3000m . Do you have any idea what 30mm does to a wooden ship? 30mm may not sound like much, but armour piercing will rip straight through 30-50cm of wood. They go through 10cm of concrete!
Half of them are in nick for raping their own children, causing most of the rest of the population to bugger off. So, not very peaceful. In the UK all the people originally migrated there ALL of them, Did you go to school?
I remember HMS Tamar as shore base and HQ of the South China 'fleet'. We used to go swimming there in their salt water pool - with water from Hong Kong harbour, try it now, you'd be dead in a week - it was in walking distance from my school in Victoria Barracks, but we were taken in Army buses. We once took a cutter, proper old wooden boat with inboard motor to the Navy outpost on Stone Cutters Island, once in the harbour, now contiguous with Kowloon, reclamation claiming the waves. It had a peeble beach, we had a swim, pretty much where the enrty to the container port now is. Weird to see the name reborn on clear blue water off one of the last vestiges of the Empite I was born into. All things must pass, O Mane Padme Om
@@Oxley016 I was going to reply that "lookong cool" isn't exactly camouflage, but I looked up dazzle camouflage in Wikipedia, and it actually singles out Tamar's paintwork! Here is what it says: In 2021, the Royal Navy painted HMS Tamar, a River-class offshore patrol vessel, in patches of black and four shades of grey. It described this as "dazzle camouflage", making the ship the first Royal Navy vessel to have such a paint scheme since the Second World War. It stated that the scheme was "more about supporting the unique identity of the squadron" than for concealment. So it looks as if you're absolutely right!
@@kennethgarland4712Actually DESPITE Wikipedia it is to breakdown the shape so making it difficult for an enemy to decide on Friend or Foe. Not like say a MBT Camouflage scheme though some have tried a similar set up on a Challenger II modified for Street Fighting, that was displayed 2-3 years ago. The dazzle effect was tried out by RN in WW1. There is a group that believe that the straight lines and similar shades adjacent "fools the brain" in interpreting what the eye sees. I believe Mr Polaroid Film inventor produced an article in the late 1970s for Scientific American and a similar article was published in National Geographic Magazine about 4 years ago. Concept is over 100 years old.
@@kennethgarland4712 Yeah the paint might confuse the odd optical sensor but it’s not going to stop modern radars from seeing the ship. Also, other ships in the class have been painted in similar ways.
Pitcairn needs a prefabricated ship terminal just off shore with an opening bridge to shore for biological control of imports. It also needs a runway for STOL aircraft from neignbouring french Islands. 40 people living on the Island is too small. UK must put in place economic activity to bring more people to the Island. The 40 people may want the isolation, but it is bad for children. The Pitcairn Islands must have a normalised society, The UK has too often not respected the rights of children across Great Britian - this should not continue at far flung out posts of Empire. If the UK won't do it China should - and will do it in the medium term if the UK does not act.
It is not a fighting ship primarily. It is an OPV optimised for anti piracy, anti drug runners and especially as a contact and PR ship. Also assist in caribeann during cyclone season
The UK should transfer sovereignty to New Zealand, while Australia should transfer sovereignty of Norfolk Island also to New Zealand. New Zealand is the closest physical major nation to either island and also administers the Cook Islands, Niue and Tokelau. Many Norfolk Islanders are related to Pitcairn Islanders.
@@senianns9522 Really? Why? So an arse like you can be proved right? Xi maybe a thug, but he has a brain, there is no benefit, read Sun Tse and get a grip
It looked like a Council of Europe flag to me, and the UK's still a member of that organisation so I can't see how anyone could have a problem with it.
It has, actually. Pitcairners have lost their single-market access for their honey exports, and their travel rights in French Polynesia, where the nearest hospital is.
Looks like they are in a lovely cruise. Maybe the tax payers money would be better spent by patrolling the English Channel and stopping the immigration boats?
@@AtheistOrphan0:47 Pitcairn wasn't technically part of the EU but has still been hurt by Brexit. Previously Pitcairners had access to the single market, which was important for their honey export business, and visiting rights in French Polynesia, which was important for medical care. These were _not_ preserved in the Brexit deal.
