HMS Victory: Total Guide (1/2) 

just wondering will you ever make a world war 2 documentary

This is seriously good

🤔 wonder is ur gonna and recreate at 1v1 scenario of HMS Victory vs USS Constitution 😎

Are you guys British, English maybe at Epic History?

Fabulous understatements convey knowledge. Yes, obviously underwhelming.

The first time I heard Epic History TV state this line I thought "The Whale and the Elephant" would be an interesting title for a book on Anglo-French relations.

Unstoppable force meets immovable object

Understand the metaphor but two more ferocious animals should’ve been chosen IMO. The Tiger & the Shark!

errm, Arthur Wesley would like a word with you sir!

One can see similarities to Carthage and Rome, Carthage the dominant naval power, Rome, the dominant land power.

XO

Agreed, 'tis absolutely first rate in both respects.

Agreed, another superb piece of historical documentary. Epic History keeps knocking these out of the park, and i'm very pleased to see them continue the Napoleon era theme!

Bravo Zulu 🇨🇦

Indeed.

I know what you mean, I got the same, "hairs on the back of your neck ", feeling standing almost on my own in Ford's theatre in Washington DC.

I knelt and touched the brass plaque. Nelson had one eye and one arm both battle wounds his strategy was to cut the line. This meant a line of ships would normally just lob broadsides at each other. Nelson attacked in a perpendicular fashion allowing British ships to fire at the bows and sterns the least defended and weakest point of the ship. The British would fire two broadsides as they passed between two ships sending cannonballs down the length of the enemy ships. Horrific mayhem destroying guns and gun crews yet leaving the masts and sails intact so the ship could be taken as prize.

@@julianwaugh8221 you missed out the worst part of this, to perform this strategy the 2 lines of Royal Navy ships had to sail directly into the broadside of the enemy ships, taking fire as they approached at less than 10mph for some time before their own guns came to bear

ТО ЧТО ПИШИШЬ . 91 ГОД ВОЙНА В П5РСИДСКОМ ЗАЛИВЕ.?! ХА-ХА. ЛОВИШЬ. С КЕМ ВОЁВНИЧКИ ВОЕВАЛИ А ТАК ГОДКОВ ИМЕЕШЬ.

Nelson used to suck his officers off whenever they won a battle to boost morale

It was exhilarating to watch. Nelson is one of my favorites. Epic History is the best!

The music alone is worth switching on for. All I could think of during the early theme of this video was Charles Nove’s voice booming, “Napoleon had taken on an enemy army almost twice his size, & beaten it four times in just six days.” You guys know what I’m talking about.

A term? I learned more here than in school mate

Schools continue because they are businesses or serve to indoctrinate the masses such as to believe patriotic lies. That is their true purpose. They are obsolete.

@@scintillam_dei i wouldn't go this far but they sure have their fair share of propaganda

That’s one of the most British things I’ve ever read

I saw Warrior too during a port call while in the US Navy. We were there for 4 days, and I got to see quite a bit of the dockyards and the ship itself. It was an amazing experience to see such a ship, still so well preserved.

I live here in pompey, you can spend a week here and still not see all the naval history in the area. The dockyard, the d day museum, the submarine museum, the royal armouries.. the list goes on. Never gets boring.

Visiting HMS Victory is on my bucket list.

Yeah, the fact that she was built basically entirely by hand is even more mind boggling

The British fleet had a total of 18000 personnel in its fleet at Trafalgar, 312 are listed as American.

We need each other now more than ever.

​@@johnjamesflashman6856, we do.

@grene1955 That is a lovely comment. i am lucky, i get to visit the dockyard four or five times a year, and i love the place, it is nice to know that you enjoyed it too, thank you.

I had to rewind that too to comprehend it properly. They should’ve put some wheels on the damn thing & sent it across the land battles.

It's a logistical issue. Hauling the same number of guns across land requires draft animals to pull the guns, draft animals to pull the powder, draft animals to pull the shot, draft animals to pull the fodder for all the draft animals pulling everything else, draft animals to pull the food and supplies for all the extra soldiers guarding the draft animals. An army can only get so large before it becomes immobile, needing all available supply just to keep it in place. Ships were, funnily enough, the absolute best use of your cannon in terms of logistical ease.

Brits won at Trafalgar because the Napoleonic forces were controlled by masons who colluded with the British, granting them the victory. Anyone who believes this PG Disneyesque Brit-supremacist version of history is naive. Napoleon and Hitler were Templars (which became masons), so they weren't actually serving their country's interests each. They were actors whose theatre of war was of a double meaning. That's why Hitler, the guy who wore a Templar cross 'cause he was a Templar, let the Brits escape at Dunkirk. Only a fool would believe he did that "to be nice." They invaded Russia to destroy their countries. They intended to lose. France got streamrolled by Nazis becasuse they let them (the higher ranks opened the gates, so to speak). Again, only children believe the government lies about history. My series on the overrated, 2nd biggest empire, of the Brits, proves what I say.

Demond LaPlace I heard it was not so much a logistical issue, but an Oudinot one 😉

@@scintillam_dei Nurse... nurse!!!

Shame on you but if you visit be warned the stairway's are very steep you have to be in pretty good shape to do the tour.

Agreed!

Agreed. There is another channel that did a 3D render of this same ship with even more detail. The video is called "How an 18th Century Sailing Battleship Works". It's a fantastic addendum to this video.

​@@Metal0sopher Yeah the channel name is Animagraffs, I actually came to this video after watching theirs. Both of them are really well made and detailed. They've put a lot of work into it.

Madness isn’t it

Tbh I kind of thought it would have been more than that. Especially given the fact there's over 26 miles of rope.

@@sonofeast11 I thought those giant anchors would weigh more than just four tons.

that's a scary sight to see when you are a 3rd rate ship of the line and you see a giant 1st rate faster than you closing with full spread of canvas.

@@davidriadi7999 With full sail out it looks less like ‘closing’ and more like ‘swooping’ in on you like a seabird of prey.

Same here, but i was happy to remember that there is a part 2.

Are you enjoying the company of men?

@@sonnymp1337 what are you on about?

DONT believe all England histories and British storytellers. “Abraham Lincoln” Spain navy were much better. France army was much stronger. The Pirates: Irish and British’s

@@ahoosifoou4211 Don’t feed the trolls👹

THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH PATRICK BRIANS NOVELS ( IM TRYING TO GET THREW THE FIRST NOVEL), IS THAT ITS HARD TO FOLLOW AND UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OF THE NAUTICAL TERMS OF ITS TIME, DIFFICULT FOR MOST I WOULD SAY !!

​@@rogervonschleusingen4603 I'm at book 14. You'll get used to it. You of course don't need to understand every little thing, the precision nonetheless adds to the experience.

In the Wardroom?

The senior rates mess?

Private pub located about 100 yards from the ship.

@@masonjarhillbilly it’s got the cheapest bar in Hampshire on board too.

​@@spookyt8692 That private bar was the cheapest. They would not allow me to buy anything. I did give several of them a tour on the USS Eisenhower and my squadron aircraft the next day, loaded them up with ship and squadron trinkets. Great experience. One of the highlights of my 20 year career in the US Navy.

I saw it to had a great day in Portsmouth

I think victory has been under constant restoration and very little of the original ship remains

@@sizzler2462 yes when I was there 20 years ago I was blown away when a guide told me that almost all of the ship had been replaced piece by piece over the years and none of the present wood had been at the battle of Trafalgar.

@@kathrynstemler6331 This is true of all wooden ships constantly in the water. They sell little pieces of old wood from Constitution in the gift shop.

My dad was a shipwright and worked on hms victory and there is pretty much no original parts of the ship left as its all been replaced

I just got all emotional, thinking about having the privilege of walking around Victory, of looking after her alone, at night, i'm like you, i also would find it a bit terrifying. i envy you Sir. Thank you for looking after one of our National Treasures.

I am green with envy! I have toured the Victory, but getting to toast the Queen with the Executive Officer must have been unbelievable.

You lucky, lucky barsteward! What an honour... but well deserved.

I can imagine that.

I was never on the Constitution, but i toured the Constellation in Baltimore about 40 years ago a very similar ship.

Brilliant story and memory to look back on.

Yes yes yes! I love context that makes you sit down and process things. Very nice.

While things seemingly moved more slowly than today the developments described are, considering the speed of communications, things moved quickly.

Victory whas as well the worlds fastest 1st rate, able to reach ~10+knots as a hobby sailor myself I find this Incredible for a ship with such wide beam and deep draft. I,ve sailed on a dutch flute as a climber-boy. But seeing a sailing victory whould be a sight to behold let alone being in the mast

@@loekstrobbe626 she was/is magnificent of course , but the 74 gun ship of the line, proved to be the best compromise . And it was a French design originally.

@@michellebrown4903 Yes the Brotish considered their best shipyards to be located in France.

I agree. It’s easy to forget that just because technology didn’t advance as fast as it does today, doesn’t mean the people were any less intelligent. With what they had, they were just as thought-out and creative! Not to mention that in 200 years, people will likely say the same about us…

Experience is the best teacher.

@@Esork1 If we are on the same trajectory as we are now, in 200 years most people will be a peasant / slave class with only a few extremely wealthy globalists who shut down all dissent and thought - stagnating society. 200 years from now looks abysmal - if humanity even exists after the NATO push for nuclear war

If only Napoleon knew when to die like a soldier as well !

@@JM-cg2mj he was wounded several times. Seems like he was saved to serve a greater purpose!

The man is immortal

Dude, for you to visit England, it's a short train ride (or plane ride). For me to visit, I'd have to cross two oceans, or 3 continents (for some reason, there aren't any flights across the pacific from Australia to England). Just save for a month and you're there.

@@Raz.C I gotta cross an entire continent, a hemisphere, the largest sea in the world, another continent , then the train ride from France to Britain

I went to see her a few years ago, so exciting to feel the centuries old atmosphere as though you were breathing the same air as Nelson. But there were many other great ships, often built by your ancestors in Nantes and Toulon. Also, the Americans were beginning to make great ships, of oak so thick that cannon balls bounced off. Of course Nelson was a man apart, so bold and aggressive, and Trafalgar was his masterpiece and epitaph. Anyway, HMS Victory awaits you in Portsmouth Dock! Vous serez le bienvenu.

'Master & Commander' GREAT film, arguably the best depiction of life at sea in those times ..... ...

@@dancarter482 They put in so much effort then used mealworms instead of weevils 🙄😬🤣.

Amazing what you can do with CGI isn't it?

DONT believe all England histories and British storytellers. “Abraham Lincoln” Spain navy were much better. France army was much stronger. The Pirates: Irish and British’s

@@rodrigomoreira9237 wat

@@rodrigomoreira9237 Is that why the English Frigate sank more Spanish Galleons than what the Galleons could sink, which the Spanish stop using them because they were easy targets for the much faster Frigate before the start of 1800s, also Spain was a conquered country by Napoleon, and the agreement that was made between Spain and France split Spain, with many taking to the hills and fighting the French, the French and its allies out numbered the British Troops in Spain and Portugal, but still lost in Spain

@@southerneruk We can't forget that Portugal had the fastest ships. even because the British and French had never captured one single ship from Portugal. But your point of view is good.

you could ask any historian from france, spain, portuguese and italian then you will understand that the english always distort history.

Shes Amazing and we are so lucky to still have her . Makes me a little sad to think of what happened to another great ship HMS IMPLACABLE. A third rate 74 gun ship of the line Fought in the battle of trafalgar originally she was French captured by the English survived first World War and the 2nd World War to be taken out to the solent in 1949 and flying the french tricolour and Union flag to be unceremoniously blown up with charges and sent to the sea bed . How could the navy do that . Gone forever

Thank God they didn't do the KingsAndGenerals thing and just turn into propaganda channel

The figures for the Spanish and French fleets are not accurate. British ships could fire faster, but not 5 or 6 times faster. Even though they were better trained, there is a physical limit on the fire rate, which is the time that must elapse in order to cool off before putting more gunpowder. The Combined Fleet lost due to many factors, only one of which was the training and the speed of fire. Spanish navy commanders were generally on par with their British counterparts, but the economic situation of Spain was dire, so most of the sailors were obtained through conscription as there was not enough money to pay them. And because of the British blockade, there was no chance of training them at sea either. Also, it can be argued that the Spanish commanders hated the French more than the British and did not respect Villeneuve due to his abysmal leadership in the battle of Finisterre which saw a few of the Spanish ships of the line captured when they could have achieved victory if supported by the French. French naval commanders were inept because France had lost its Naval tradition with the Revolution. The only merit of Villeneuve before Trafalgar was being able to save a few ships from destruction in the battle of the Nile. Underfunded and under command of an inept admiral, the Combined Fleet spent most of its time at port with no chance of sailing and improving its crew's skills. Also, the size of the Spanish and French fleets could not compete with the Royal Navy, which made its commanders more cautious. Nelson could afford to lose ships at Trafalgar, but Spain and France could not. Thus, the allied fleets tried always to place themselves in the leeward position in order to escape if possible. The direction of the wind made their ships tilt and fire to the masts and sails of the British ships, while these could fire at the hull of the Allied ships. That, combined with the fact that the British had more first rates at Trafalgar than the French and Spanish, which allowed them to fire from a deck higher, gave them the advantage at the battle. Spanish and French ships tended to be better designed than their British counterparts, but that difference was slight. Also, worth mentioning is Villeneuve's clumsy U-turn at the beginning of the battle and the lack of support of Dumenoir's vanguard to the main body of the Combined Fleet. The Spanish and French were extremely brave to fight the British under these circumstances, but the conditions made the chance of victory very remote.

Wow. Your amazing. You know so much I bet.

@@augustosolari7721 That's a lot of words to say almost the same thing I said.

@@augustosolari7721 Excellently said, very true indeed.

@William Ewart Gladstone they were. Maybe not at the level of Nelson, but Gravina and Churruca were very competent.

Same. Also because they don't invade you with 3384 videos

DONT believe all England histories and British storytellers. “Abraham Lincoln” Spain navy were much better. France army was much stronger. The Pirates: Irish and British’s

Ocean doesn't smell. Sweaty hard working men do though.

@@samhamsord7942 I’m so sorry to do this, but your statement about the ocean not having a smell is ridiculous my friend. It absolutely has a smell. “This pungent gas is what gives ocean air "sort of a fishy, tangy smell," said study author Andrew Johnston of the University of East Anglia. But while "it was known that quite a lot of bacteria could [produce DMS], no one had thought to ask how," Johnston told LiveScience.Feb 1, 2007” And “dimethyl sulfide It's summertime, and for many of us, that means the beach. It is impossible to be a beach dweller and not notice the unique and wonderful smell of the ocean. By all means, take a deep breath. But what you're smelling is actually a fairly hideous chemical called dimethyl sulfide.Jul 20, 2021”

@@nooneimportant460 The very thing that you bringing so far stretched unpopular theories only proves my point. Besides, it's not my point, but one I heard from a professional seaman. I know sea has some smell - but that only close to shore, and it's not sea, but mix of dead weeds and stuff washed ashore. In the open sea there is no smell.

@@samhamsord7942 smh…. Whatever you say man. I too have been to open sea. It has a smell. I’m not going to argue with someone who’s reply is “bro trust me”. Ocean air has a smell. If you don’t think so fine. But I can provide endless sources saying otherwise. Have a nice life. Not going to argue, nothing I say or provide will you ever even consider. You have already made up your mind and there is no changing it. I wish you all the best in life

@@nooneimportant460 I didn't made up my mind, I'm not that dull. In fact you now partially changed it. If you have been to open sea and do insist it has smell - I will add it to my understanding of the question. It's just explaining it through chemical formulas makes it sound as if it doesn't have smell one can describe with human words. And I watch one ex-captain on YT who once said open sea don't have smell, so that makes me think it either has none or it's so thin that it practically doesn't matter. I only was near sea some time, and can say I had two experiences - on calm weather there is no smell and just something more of washed ashore stuff giving it.. but on one very windy day there was very fresh and delightful smell "of the sea" but I don't fully understand how it works and why it only felt on that windy day. So based on your answer I'll add to my understanding that there is something.. although I still don't fully understand what exactly it is, is it different then ashore and does it always there? And if it even differs from one ashore.

I had a days visit on this ship loved it

How right you are.

That's fantastic. I'd like to hear it sung.

Like their Castle construction video, I really like these topics that are not about events & battles per se, but about the engines & constructs that informed the battles & time.

Have you been to see Victory in Portsmouth? Its there you can visit it!

Given most homes would be about 2 stories high (maybe 3) a 3 gun deck ship would tower over them, then add in the masts and it would be like looking at a sky scarper.

The Victory was taller and larger than the tallest and largest structure in Portsmouth at the time which was a church.

@Aqua Fyre Aircraft carrier in WW2 is nothing. Britain built only 10 1st rates in the entire 18th century. It is similar to that of the Kirov for Russia or US Supercarriers today.

The Great Pyramids are 146 meters and were around at the time.

I envy you there. HMS Victory is on my 'Bucket List'.

@@487409c I've seen the Constitution and it was nice. Ill see the Victory one of these days. The ship that does it for me is the one my grandfather helped build: USS Enterprise CVN-65

@@487409c fantastic day out, they let you keep your ticket for a year! Mary Rose exhibit is incredible, then Victory, then Warrior are the three main ships. The comparison between Victory and Warrior from about 50 years after Trafalgar is fascinating. Then there's a massive museum including one of Victory's shot ridden sails, Nelson's dress coat, a panorama painting of the battle, there's a couple of other small military vessels and an interactive exhibit for the kids. Oh and it includes a harbour tour where if you're lucky you'll see some of the navy ships. I got a photo of Victory next to HMS Hermes and Fearless in the 80's.

Imagine if she could speak. Or what Slade would say to see her all these years later.

It's stunning !

Wow that's an epic career! It's people like you that should make a YT channel and record your memories and thoughts. Even just in audio if you don't want to be known, add to the history :)

Am currently reading this series of books and have to agree with you there. Roll on Part 2.

I have read the O'Brian books a number of times and am now rereading the Hornblower series. Truly fascinating, and this vid gave me a new understanding of the working of these massive ships

That would be indeed great!👍👍👍 It´s the other legendary Ship in the Battle of Trafalgar, a Ship which didn´t exist any more.

@@NicolaW72 So you've heard of it, that's good 😎 I guessgood legends spread fast👍

@@davidmartinsantillana4195 I would say many people are aware of this legendary ship!

@@ZolaMagic25 I don't know if a lot of people are aware or not, I just like the way this channel does the videos and the ship is legendary, that's why I suggested it

Read Master and Commander. Or watch the movie. Or do both :)