A Clearwater police officer is facing an ultimatum in her East Lake neighborhood: Stop parking her marked police cruiser in her driveway, or pay hundreds of dollars in violation costs.
I live in South Africa and often shake me head in disbelief at what rules and regulations and power these HOA's have. It seems unbelievable at times. Who would ever want to live like that? Certainly does not make sense to me.
i have a vacation home in Masthope, PA. our HOA is chill. as long as you don't leave garbage on the property, no one bothers you. i've left commercial vehicles, trailers and other stuff in my drive way for weeks. no one gave a s**t.
@@AB-ez4rm Oh; I own it: 'Fee Simple'. I didn't sign any 'hoa' with the government. The extortionist doesn't own any part of it. It's a mistake to voluntarily surrender your rights; even if somebody is already violating them.
@@michaelpcoffee - If you bought "real estate", then you DID in fact sign on for the government lording over your property. "Real estate derives from the French 'réal etat' (meaning royal state). So when push comes to shove, it is sovereign, state-owned land... you rent it from the government. Stop paying your rental fee (property taxes) and you'll find out REALLY fast who actually owns your land. And if you were to strike oil in your backyard, you'd also find out very quickly that it isn't yours. They WILL come to claim it.
@@Mr.Ekshin French law has no jurisdiction in the United States. 'Fee Simple' means I have full ownership of the land and everything attached to it. An agreement requires informed consent on the part of both parties. I would like to see a copy of the deed or title that says anybody else owns my property. The extortionist does not own his victims or any of their property. You voluntarily surrendering ownership to them applies only to you.
@@michaelpcoffee - Again... if you purchased "your" land as real estate, you don't own it. You may own the structures built upon it, but you lease the land from the government. If you truly own the land, then you hold it under allodial title, meaning it's yours... no taxes or government rights over that property. Allodial (think "striking the mother lode") means you truly own the land, all mineral rights to it, and no government body can come along and claim that land under "eminent domain". No taxes may apply, and it stays in your family after you die... because it's yours. But last I checked, only two states in the US still allow allodial titles, and those are grandfathered. That means as soon as the holder passes away or sells the property, they become real estate, and revert to state territory.
I live in a HOA community it depends on who’s running it . Some are cool & a lot them will play u by the book . In some places u just can’t avoid them . It’s all about perceived property value .
Where's Waldo just because you have to do it doesn’t make it fair. You work hard for your money to buy your dream property. As long as you maintain your yard and make sure you don’t have broken down vehicles in driveway you should be able to park your work vehicle. But as long as your comfortable living on eggshells I guess.
I love this sage advice morons always offer up in comments🙄 No one asked so STFU. It’s not the answer everywhere for everyone. It must be nice living in your sheltered corner of America where HOAs aren’t everywhere and there’s a legitimate choice. Here in the big city suburbs in the western US that’s not how life works.
Never, never, never, ever *subject yourself* to a HOA! You acquiesce your *RIGHTS* to enjoy your property and your RIGHT to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
That’s kinda hard to do a lot o new constructions are under Hoa so it’s either. Buy your own land buy all the necessary permits to build or buy a older house that’s not in a Hoa it’s going to cost more money upfront to have your house built
@Oh Wait I only found something backing you in a story about Illinois, which sucks when it comes to people's rights. You need to divorce yourself from your rigid stance.
I think that is part of the qualification. A normal person can not be the a president of an HOA. Only people that apply are people that like controlling and like having power
and the fact they they referred it to their attorney means that they are probably spending thousands of dollars of the resident's money on fighting this.
@@NoteFromSELF Well, you do get some people on them that get a power trip...but overall I think they are necessary and most are run by fare, rational people.
Had a friend who lived in a HOA neighborhood. Pick up trucks were not allowed to park within the neighborhood unless garaged. Contractors were only allowed access during business hours. I drive a beater pickup and they always seen me coming, it got to the point where I would harass them with my presence. They would try to call a tow service to remove me but the tow service said they were responsible for the bill if no law was being broken. Since I was a visitor I just told them to kiss my trailing part.
When I lived in Florida my house was just outside of an HOA and they still wanted to come by every couple of weeks to try to tell what I could and couldn't do, which 100% of the time it resulted in them telling them to kiss my Irish Ass. I would INTENTIONALLY leave the 18 inches of property between my property line and the start of the HOA gate unmowed and when the city would come by to tell me to clean it up I'd tell them "it isn't my property, go tell the HOA to mow it, it's theirs". I ended up having to file a property restraining order and took them to court, when I sold my house I gave the new owners the restraining order because it was for the property not just me and less than a week after they moved ion they had the HOA president arrested because she came over running her mouth to them not knowing they already had the 411 on the HOA.
@@martuuk8964 nobody is claiming otherwise. The problem is many who attain BOARD status go hog wild on the rules and fail to exercise discretion. Having a police car in the community does NOT bring down the value. A police car is not a commercial vehicle. But someone reads too deeply and then goes nuts. They get a taste of power and start abusing it.
@@martuuk8964 what that is the most idiotic thing I have ever red... 99.99% of all house in Canada are not under HOA, and the vast majority of them are in good condition.
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@Joseph Mason all liberals must not have porch/landscape lighting in use from Dusk til Dawn. Fined for 911 calls outside of medical services would make a start
I still don't understand why anyone would ever live in a HOA community. The thought of someone telling me what I can and can't do to or on my property blows my mind.
There are always people who want the value of their property protected by Gestapo. As one of those fools said: The HOA makes sure that no illegal immigrants can buy a house in my neighbourhood and start using their driveway as a scrapyard. That's what keeps the value of my property intact.
My little sister had two older contractor trucks on her rural property and wanted to sell them. I told her no! As she lived alone I wanted her safe. What idiot would break into a house where it looked like construction guys lived there?
My town kept having out of state people robbing us, so we bought some old ass crown vics that were junk and painted them like cops cars and set then up on the main road, haven’t had a theft in a couple years now.
@@FNKY767 For Australia, Strata Scheme is the closest to the US's HOA. Read www.realestate.com.au/advice/starters-guide-strata/ Strata Scheme comes with the Owner's corporation. Strata Scheme is usually used for townhouses and apartments. Australia's contract law is not allowed to break government laws which include consumer laws.
The sad part is that the officer has to spend his money on attorneys fees for this litigation and the HOA spends “YOURS” to validate their power 🙄🤦♂️🤷♂️
Another sad part is that the officer is a woman and saying “his money” means you didn’t listen. Be that as it may, this is insane. Who do these HOA board members think they are? This borders on evil.
For those looking for updates: The HOA yielded because there was a grandfathered in permission from the former HOA that "let" the officer park her unmarked police vehicle. The new HOA said that the next owner must sign an affidavit explicitly acknowledging they are not to park government vehicles in the drive way. Clearwater HOA has not issued a comment beyond "speak to our attorneys" After hearing that multiple HOA's and their parental management companies are not allowing marked or unmarked government vehicles to park in their perspective driveways, state legislators passed and signed a bill into law allowing Marked and Unmarked government issued vehicles to park in their neighborhoods and in their driveways. Clearwater HOA to this day has made no further comments.
I would love to see them try to enforce that rule on say a bunch of FBI agents (or other federal agents) who setup in a house in that HOA for an operation nearby and what the response would be.
Typical HOA. Under pressure and bad publicity, they will bend this one time for this one owner. But they will not examine whether the policy itself is counter-productive. Why? "We don't want prospective new owners to get the impression that people who live here have jobs."
@ruthgar9753 Pro-tip If some agency "sets up" in a home to surveil a target, you won't notice anything different about said home. You know, because surveillance shouldn't be noticed if done properly.
@@ruthgar9753That is why some HOAs are under federal investigation for stealing millions in fees. There's even fed indictments on a lot of HOAs board members for fraud.
Followups for those reading several years later: She was allowed to park in the driveway after showing it was grandfathered into a previous HOA agreement. In 2020 S.B. 476 allows LEO to park a unit on their HOA property.
Why didn’t the HOA look that up on their own without harassing her????? My mom kept ALL records of the board of directors meetings at her mobile home park and looked them up with each new atrocity the Board tried to do.
Thank you for the update. GOD BLESS OUR LEOS! No doubt the HOA oligarchs, with their requisite delusions of grandeur, made lemon-sucking faces about the ruling and stew in denied omnipotence. What ABSOLUTELY horrid people.
@ actually I am a non union electrician with all the benefits and amenities of a union electrician without having to join any group. I had a choice and I chose to not live under anyone's thumb. I do not live in an hoa for the same reason. I live in a beautiful home because I want it that way, not because someone tells me it has to be that way. I am not victim blaming. You are not a victim if you willfully cause your own struggle. So drop that argument. People have lost sight of the idea that you can do what you want when you want how you want, if willing to put the effort in. If you make the choice to live under someone else's control you can't really complain you knew full well what you were getting into. There are full disclosure laws in effect everywhere in this country. So save it. You have the choice you either do what you want hard or easy or you take the easy way out and conform. Everything is a choice and all choices have repercussions. I am simply pointing out that the choice that was made has a repercussion that clearly wasn't thought thru. You can't renegotiate a contract after you sign it.
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@@mattb1331 BTW, your argument is akin to someone having issues with the city and you saying that's what you get for living under the authority of a city rather than living out in the country. Or it's akin to someone getting overcharged for electricity and you saying that's what you get for being under the authority of a electric distributor rather than living off the grid.
In that sense you are correct but if you signed something you don't like you are not a victim. Typically most contracts are not eligible for renegotiation unless more responsibility is added or situation changes. You can't decide you are better at what you signed that you thought and ask for more. It doesn't work like that. That's why it's called a contract. An agreement you make a choice to sign never something you are forced to sign this isn't Russia. You have a choice. And like I said I have a lot more benefits and greater salary than most in my field I chose to work for a good company. I did my research and made a choice. Also I live in a very nice community of people that maintain their homes because they want too not because they are told too. So I guess I have never had an issue with my community that's 10 min away from my job. I again put in the work to find what I wanted. I made the choice not someone else.
@@marvinflatt6947 yes. what about it? In the immortal words of will Smith Don't start nothing and there won't be nothing. And never mess with the police.
@@timothyterrell1658 Same will smith that thinks sharing his wife is no big deal...that one? So then why does that make it alright. Don't live in a HOA area would be better. Personally I have several. Police cars in the area I live in, and don't have alot of cars broken into like other area's of my town.
Having been on the board of a HOA neighborhood of 278 homes where everyone buying a home was given a copy of the by-laws ahead of the time of purchase ( dues are voluntary & used to upkeep landscaping @ entrances) things went well in the neighborhood for a couple of decades until . . . LOL sorry about that, my kitten stepped on my tablet & sent comment before I finished typing. Until a couple of folks decided they did not like the way things were being run and hijacked the HOA. They sent out an ugly letter in the name of the board and alienated quite a few, if not a majority, of the home owners. The dues were raised to 2 1/2 times what they had been. They personally contracted an on-going debt and now that a large portion of the HOs have quit paying dues they are screaming "it's not fair" that the board members are personally obligated to pay for the on-going debt which THEY themselves incurred on behalf of the HOA. These people had visions of grandeur, pretending they lived in the likes of a fancy gated community with lots of amenities when it was nothing of the sort. It is an average older neighborhood well located with medium priced homes. The ring-leaders lied, manipulated, & duped people to get their way and within a year they were found out and the folks that had been doing the grunt work abandoned their jobs &, if the letters they send out are to be believed, the HOA is no longer financially sound. They wanted power & weilded it with little regard as to how it would impact others, demanding standards above & beyond the by-laws, wishing to force their neighbors to submit to their ideas of how their landscaping should look & whether they could have certain pets such as a parrot. They became yard gestapo, calling out code enforcement on their neighbors for the most ridiculous of PERCEIVED infractions. To be fair, there were a couple of violations that were cleared up & improvements seen but at what cost? HOAs CAN be a good thing IF reasonable, caring people are voted in to hold office and reasonable by-laws are adopted. Reasonable folks do not want to live in a neighborhood where their single most costly asset is devalued because of their neighbors lack of awareness or caring. But they also don't want to feel like they are being watched & reported on, or their rights infringed. What harm is done when a grandparent has a very nice playhouse built in their backyard & paints it pink to the delight of their grandchild? I can't see it being a permanent fixture. How does that devalue anyone's property. It's not a brothel or a drug den for goodness sake. The HOA in this video, in my opinion, is crazy. I would more than welcome a police car in my neighborhood! ! ! Just googled "lawsuit over playhouse" & was unprepared for the results. Seems there are a lot of unreasonable folks in this country. Absolutely mind-boggling. BEWARE THE HOA! ! !
Yet another reason I'll NEVER be a part of an HOA anywhere. I'll be damned if I'm going to allow others to tell me what I can and can't do on MY property!
Or at least have a black and white, clear statement of what the rules are up front when you buy and not add to them or change them after you buy. That is what most HOA's do. They add interpretive guidelines and rules after the fact. HOA = the only legal form of communism in the USA.
Colby Cheese it all comes down to the HOA rules. My parents’ last two houses actually had HOAs. One only cared about the bike trail system that ran along the rear lot line and the playgrounds at the junctions throughout the subdivision. The other mainly cared about upkeep of the residents’ yards, snow removal, and community building upkeep.
@@bwakel310 Close enough. A small minority decides to effectively take control over your home and financial assets based on whimsical decisions and personal grudges in secret meetings (which they usually are) with little to no due process and almost no accountability. Sounds like communism to me.
@@donmulder8061 HOA is akin to the British East India Company which is dismantled by the British government after it created a large mess. British East India Company = corporate dictatorship and it was legal until the British government has dismantled it.
The police officer needs to find out who the board members are. Down the road, if a board member calls 911 for their choking child, the police should have a “slow response.” I guarantee the HOA board will reverse their decision very quickly once they realize that they effed up.
The HOA is just people.. Usually homeowners on a board decide the rules. If you move into a HOA/regulated community and then don't like the rules... That is a problem of your own making.. either convince the board to change the rules or move, and this time don't pick a place that is going to control what you do.
This is why I feel lucky to not be in an HOA. We upkeep our house and maintain a good look, but if we let our grass grow, noone is going to fine us. I can leave my project car in my driveway and noone bats an eye. It's lovely
Same. I can see the appeal of a HOA though for a Karen type person that wants to control what their neighbors do. I live in a dense city area, 1/3 of the houses are worth over 500k (some million dollars single family homes within blocks) - feel the need to point that out since someone said basically most houses over 500k are in a HOA lol. Everybody minds their own business, one persons lawn is a beautiful garden, another is just grass with a collection of statues/art, another has some nice cars under covers, and the next has some signs about peace and unity and the next has some long grass because they dont cut often - no rules and everybody still loves their neighbors. Some people loose their jobs and houses get run down. Living next to a basically abandoned house is not the end of the world.. (there is no squatting/breaking in type crime) and soon enough someone else buys it and they might completely remodel it and now your next to the most expensive house on the block... it all works out.
Better recheck nuisance laws where you live. I'm not in an HOA but there are city ordinances regarding junk and excessively tall grass. Every city has them, but the number of compliance officers is usually small. Where I live, you get 2 warnings to cut your grass before the city just comes and does it, and bills you $150.
@@michaelhollon5332 Yep, but the law for my city is the AVERAGE height of the lawn has to be over 1ft to be in violation. So pretty much you can do what you want. Also rules that you must shovel your sidewalk in the winter 24H after snow, but unless your in the loop with major foot traffic you have a few days and by then a nice neighbor with a blower will probably do it for you. My brother lives in a suburb and he has so many rules, can only have 1 garage, can only have 1 shed etc etc. I can build 20 sheds on my property if I want in the city.
@@kevindenning7361 I work as a civilian around an agency and while some can be the person you would hang out with after work some are just raging a holes.
Not really. You can take them down with the law itself through a lawsuit because an HOA doesn't have the power over the Constitution lol or some other laws. Let the "law" they claim to bootlick come and kick them back later
@@electric6877 Before you purchase a home in HOA community.. You are quite aware of the rules and you sign paperwork saying show so you just can't move in and decide cause you're a cop or not that you don't want to follow the rules
@@melvinhume9865 what part of a Police vehicle is not a " Commercial Vehicle " do you not understand . They did not disobey HOA rules by parking a "Government Vehicle" in the driveway .
@@melvinhume9865 Not true Melvin. I know many think it is and I used to think that as well. Things have changed. The "Declaration of CC&R's" now usually has very vague language like a "reasonable number of pets IAW rules and regulations adopted by the Board from time to time," or "must maintain a neat and orderly home in accordance with the rules and regulations adopted by the Board from time to time," and so on. You have no idea what they are going to come up with when you buy a home. The board can get together in the street one night for a beer and say, "Melvin's little ficus tree on his porch has to go," and next week you get a new rule posted that says, "No ficus trees on porches." If you don't comply, they cite you, fine you and then if you don't pay that fine they put a lien on your home. You just assume that your neighbors will not screw with you. My neighbors on the board have screwed with me in every HOA I lived in just because I stood up to them when they tried bad stuff like I described. They do not like that. That is when they adopt a new rule tailored just for you. Like making us get rid of one of our cats (we didn't - we just dumped our single family home on the market at a low price and bought a nicer non-HOA home out in the boondocks - the whole HOA paid for the bad board making us hate living there so much that we took a loss).
I would never, ever buy a house controlled by an HOA, after you have raised money for this purpose, are you going to be controlled by people who have contributed nothing towards your house? This is ridiculous
HOA is just an excuse for being bored with your life and being able to be a "boss with authority" from home.... basically when the karen asking for the manager actually becomes a manager😂😂😂
Who was the jackass that put it in the rules that was against law enforcement vehicles parked in their community. HOAs need to understand that having that car there is a deterrent. Criminals go where there is a lesser chance to get caught or shot. The board member against this is either a criminal or got caught doing something wrong.
1st question when buying a home: "Is there HOA?" Then make sure you let them know WHY you don't want the house: "Because there is friggin HOA. Buh-Bye"
My response would be "Okay I'll buy your nice home in your HOA community. But if you ever pull any tricks, you'll wish you never let me in this neighborhood. You might think youre tough and bad, but I am the police. And I can and will make your life a literal living hell....and get away with it." Ah, the beauty of being a cop. When you know that absolutely no one can ever touch you. XD
The easy answer is to not live in an HOA community, but it many places, this is incredibly difficult to do. I know in my area most developments are controlled by HOAs. I'd have to move pretty far away to escape them. There needs to be local/state/federal legislation to reign in the abusive terror they rain down.
@@billydelacey I'm smart enough to know they *can* serve a legitimate purpose but often don't. For example, someone needs to manage common landscaping and a community pool (if they have one), but that's basically all I want an HOA to do.
@@jimroscoviusNot all of us can just move where our jobs are located nor where our social connections reside. In addition, the overwhelming majority of cities in my area are covered in HOAs. It's not easy to escape them. I'm lucky in that I don't have one, but the cost was to live in a special taxing district.
Oaf Not all HOAs are evil. The last two houses my parents owned had HOAs. One collected a small fee (think it was about $40) each year from everyone towards maintenance of the bike trail system and playgrounds in the subdivision. The other had a monthly fee but it went towards yard work and snow removal along with upkeep of the community building.
@@Renville80 Not all HOAs are evil but most are seriously flawed. The whole construct is flawed and needs reform. Your parent's HOA is commendable but not a justification for solving this issue.
A lot of areas where people need to move to for work, almost all of the available homes are in HOA neighborhoods, as the houses without HOA’s are usually sold in a bidding war since they are so few and far between, and may end up out o most people’s price range. Therefore they have no choice but to move into an HOA neighborhood, you see that in Georgia all the time. I have driven through non HOA neighborhoods before, and have done weekly since moving down here in 2016, while driving family around town. I have yet to see a single “For Sale” sign in a NON HOA neighborhood. They are almost everywhere in HOA neighborhood though.
Your government is not only suppressive but also a terroristic organization which started dozens of wars in foreign countries since WWII. Many of them based on lies as you all could learn when some of the documents were declassified or leaked.
Government is much worse. They will literally take your house away if you don’t pay property tax. They will throw you on the street. HOA will just put a lien on your house so you can’t sell.
@@millerscorner2 hey i always had my hand raised and i dont act like that. dont put the overachievers into the karen category. the ones who do this stuff are people who were shamed as kids and never had control, so now they do shit like this to make them think they finally have it. i see the same people in school districts and really any place where you have power over a large amount of people. its insecurity, not ambition
That is like calling a business/office and getting snotty with the receptionist/secretary. It makes it difficult to get much if anything accomplished if you tick off the gatekeeper.
Man-made rules & laws are generally flawed because they are made up by humans who have likes & dislikes, good opinions & beliefs and bad/faulty opinions & beliefs which tend to slant things and sway judgment. A single person or group of people cannot foresee the end effect of their rules or all the circumstances that may arise from their decisions. People should not be so unbending or act as if man-made decisions are iron clad, cast in stone! Humans are not omniscient or omnipotent. It is best to leave some wriggle-room for unforseen circumstances that may arise and deal righteously & compassionately with them. The Golden Rule is the perfect rule. It should be the yardstick by which to measure and not self-will & self-justification. People are too quick to cut off their nose to spite their face. There should be room for compromise in most of these HOA cases. It just takes compassion, patience & wisdom to deal with these situations. Love thy neighbor as thyself!
Ppl that complain about HOA are stupid for moving there in the first place. I was looking into property in Florida some were HOA read the rules and regulations didn't like them so I got property in a non HOA area it's that simple.
@@_Otaku-kt8be It's really not that simple. There are towns that are dominated by HOAs. They're everywhere in some places. You look at the rules, and you think okay, I can live without a privacy fence. But the next thing you know they're up your ass about something else.
There’s a cop that lives less than a block away from me and has his cruiser outside every night. My car has still been broken into twice in less a year. Not exactly a deterrent.
@brian. Not going to deter anybody really. There was a story some years back about a guy breaking into a cops house stealing his uniform, gun and cruiser and he started pulling people over to ask for cash from people to avoid giving them a ticket.
That HOA is nuts...I am on a Board and we do have a regulation against commercial vehicles being parking in the open by the residents..but I would certainly grant a variance (exception to the rule) in this case.
I live in the neighborhood I grew up in and I'm 65. Never felt the need to tell my neighbors how to live their life or how to keep their property. The city has an ordinance on tall grass, junk cars, etc. That has always been enough for me. I'd be happy to live near a local sheriff or police officer--more security for sure.
You're absolutely right. America needs to outlaw this "HOA" nonsense and go back to real neighborhoods. What's going on with this "HOA" total b.s. is absolutely ridiculous and is driving housing costs through the roof causing a huge housing crisis.
I will NEVER live under an HOA. But IF the officer agreed to whatever language is in the written agreement, then she should abide by that agreement. But yeah, I think the HOA should change its rules.
I lived in an hoa and I loved it. I didn't love every rule. But I understood they were there and if I wanted to live there, I need to follow them. I loved not dealing with the nuisances of my neighbors that I had dealt with on public Street housing in the past. If those problem came up, just as they always show, the hoa doesnt mess around and put and end to it. I lived one house away from hoa president and her and her husband were in their 60s and still liked to go out and party. I loved them. It was such a peaceful neighborhood where people moved in out of respect for the rules.
Regardless of the eventual outcome, they bought a unit in the HOA and should have been aware of the rule about no government owned vehicles. They should abide by it until successfully challenged, or move.
@@AhHereWeGo fucked with an officer? Or enforcing the rules the officer agreed to upon signing the contract? I forgot cops can just violate contracts they sign becuase they are cops.
@@angelaevalynnwainwright4494 HOA are out of control. For some reason my mom moved into a HOA. They told her how to keep the house, who comes and goes. I had a good time when I showed up on my Harley Davidson and my brothers came in with a couple of Ninja motorcycle.. The look of sheer horror
The fact that we as homeowners, have no say when a cop parks in our driveway says slot about pick "over reach".... Nothing like having to get out of your car to ask them to move off your driveway so you can access your property itis outrageous
Just suck it up like everyone else there that has to clean their garage. Geezzz buttercup
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Wait, so nobody can park in their driveway? LoL, I love watching these poor plebes get controlled. I have 6 cars and no I'm not going to build 3 more garage spots for all my cars thank you very much.
@ if their cars have advertising (company vehicles) etc .. they're not allowed to park in the driveways. It's a dumb ass rule. I would never spend my money on a home you can't even be free on. I don't get why people do it!! But they've signed agreements and I believe they have to pay yearly dues to the Home owners association. It's stupid
SCREW THAT, I'M A COP!!! I'm SPECIAL! The rest of you "KNAVES" need to abide by the rules, but NOT ME! It's not a "commercial" vehicle, the MONEY it is used to collect "DOESN'T COUNT".............WTF? I guess once you get a taste of "RULES" not applying to you, it becomes an all out addiction.
No, what you are seeing is what I call the news effect. You only see that which is way out of the norm making it news. 99.99% of the time, the HOA is just taking care of the neiborhood so you don't live next door to somone who wants to run a junk yard from their front yard.
Anyone peeping thru my window with a camera on a stick would get the camera AND the stick shoved up his backside before getting curb stomped as a peeping tom.
@David Freer Got a feeling I know who's going to show up at the next meeting...LoL "Did you know that the average American, breaks a law a day, without noticing...?"
The most that HOA's should do is pick up trash, mow common areas and maintain the streets in areas where these services are not provided by a municipality.
im glad our hoa is simple. we pay a yearly fee which goes to maintaining our roads and plowing in the winter. all we are expected to do is upkeep our properties and mow since we are in a high fire zone. we also have two officers living in the community so it also makes us all feel safer.
Always wondered why someone would live in an HOA community. Seems they like to be told what, when and how to live their lives. Different strokes...I guess.
@@societyschild6055 the theory was to avoid your neighborhood from turning in to a dump .have some order and keep things neat . avoid your neighbor from putting a thousand gnomes in his yard etc. Orderly neat and all the same some people like that. But some HOAs go overboard but also its necessary to to be strict hard to draw the line. I have rental property in HOAs and non HOAS . you sometimes have asshole neighbors in both. But HOAs attitudes and the way they talk to us is outragous.
Steven Tunis maybe this will help ya sometimes people make up idiotic rules and there are even laws still on the books that would blow your mind that haven’t been enforced in decades it doesn’t take a genius to realize when people are on a power trip and that’s what this HOA is doing
@@martinthomas1293 Possibly, but did she or did she not sign an agreement to follow said rules when she moved into that area? If she did, and is now asking for special treatment, she is in the wrong.
Rule of law is not in the same category as rules per say . One has to learn to respect Law enforcement and they also must respect the citizenry . Irish citizen
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@@ivermectin1908 Who gives a fuck. I have homes in multiple HOAs and they told me shit someone would have a gun in their mouth.
This should be another lesson for everyone do not move into an HOA they will control everything you do that will look for ways to still your home then worse than Hitler
I rented a home I owned to a County Sheriff in my FL town. ALL the neighbors were ecstatic to have a LEO living on the block. She stayed for 3 years then bought her own place. I was sorry to see her go.
Here is an update An officer with the Clearwater Police Department who had been told by her homeowners association's board of directors that she could not park her marked squad car in her driveway is now getting permission to do so. According to ABC News, the officer's family had a grandfather letter from the previous board telling them they could park the cruiser in the driveway. The rule is aimed at commercial vehicles, which the officer's attorney says should not apply to police cars because they are not commercial enterprises. The family's attorney, Kelly Blum, said in a statement, "My clients are pleased Cross Pointe Homeowners Association, Inc., came to its senses, at least in this particular instance. The good guys won."
"they got permission." so everyone there has to play 'mommy may I?' the police should be the last ones to have to ask permission to have a vehicle at a residence's home (if there's trouble, they're closer to respond than ghost busters!)
No person should be able to take there vehicles home. They need to drive to the office get debriefed and go to patrol. Officers need directions and directives everyday so that they know and honor there oath. I have two siblings that are officers and that should always know who they serve.
@@kaos1881 So, I will tell my friends who are first responders that instead of responding straight to the house that needs help, that they should go to the headquarters first.
Mark8675332 so you can start work the second you walk out the door or do you have to drive to the area or even the county you don’t live in to get to work. As a tax payer I want them to know better and be held accountable for the wrongs they do and power they use. I have worked in public service as my wife still does, but we don’t ask for special service or to treated any differently from others. As bringing that intimidating vehicle does show how a person is using it as intimidation. Just as cops nowadays don’t like it when citizens record them people don’t want to feel imprisoned in there own home or even walk around there own block. Remember as public service is a self gratifying occupation.
@@kaos1881 Well, many are duty while at home. I was a first responder for 10 years and many went to the scene from their house. If you have a CPR, one can respond to the squad and the other to the home and start care right away, every moment helps save a lfe
