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Hobie 16: Epoxying the BEAMS to the HULLS 

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@TomKirkman1
@TomKirkman1 6 месяцев назад
I have done this and it makes a huge world of difference for these boats. No racking. The windward hull flies bow to stern, all at the same time.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
That's what i'm hoping.
@neophobiagarage1845
@neophobiagarage1845 6 месяцев назад
Great video Joe, please make sure that you wear protective glasses when you handle the hardener. These amines just blind you once a tiny drop gets in your eye. To save your eye you would have to use a special buffer solution that you do not have. Once you reach the hospital it is too late and the damage is done. Forever.😢
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the heads up. I’ll definitely take you advice
@JodyCybulski
@JodyCybulski 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, did not know that. I haven’t used glasses yet. But will now
@geraldraab9715
@geraldraab9715 6 месяцев назад
west system makes a prethickened epoxy called gflex 650..my buddy's and I have glued up 6 boats with it..simple 1to 1 ratio....great stuff...1 box will do all 4 castings and rear x bar...great job Joe! If you are ever in Oc NJ come sailing!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
Good to know, I’ll see if I can get some
@joshpickering8495
@joshpickering8495 5 месяцев назад
I've just glued up my old hobie as well, and a few tips I can offer... Have some acetone and rags on hand to clean up any epoxy that gets where it shouldn't be. After I glued it up, I had some sagging of the epoxy out of the joints (maybe I didn't thicken it enough), so I wrapped the joints with insulation tape to prevent this. Might be worth having a roll of tape available in case. I've heard it's a bad idea to epoxy in the side bars, it can cause the corner castings to break at some point in the future. A good silicone is a better option for those joints.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tips - I'll let everyone know if my castings fail due to the glued side beams. They were so loose that I felt that i had to do it! One return tip was to put sealant around the bottom of the castings
@robbyshuman233
@robbyshuman233 6 месяцев назад
Just recently did a bottom job on my boat using west systems and micro balloons as well, your mixing looks spot on! Thinking really hard about epoxying the frame and pilons on my 83 16 next winter
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
I'll let you know how it turns out.
@James-fb7nh
@James-fb7nh 6 месяцев назад
Joe, as mentioned above the thickened Gflex from West System is perfect for this, with out needing any additive to thicken. . We have glued up several boats and they are still stiff and going strong after years of fun in the ocean. If you are ever on the East coast here in the US come to Ocean City New Jersey. Its the Hobie capital of the Mid Atlantic. You'll fit right in!
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
I'l have to hit NJ next time. Thanks.
@offordgraham
@offordgraham 7 месяцев назад
We normally use more epoxy, and breather hole in the top of the casting to let the excess out
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
I wish i'd seen you comment before making the video! Yes, I thought I should have used more. She's feeling rigid but how it will cope with some heavy wind blasting is the test.
@hobie16amateurhour52
@hobie16amateurhour52 6 месяцев назад
All good comments. Diagonals and level are important on the next go around. Slow hardener is key. It happens fast and you’ll need time. Please do one of the new worlds boats if ash will approve. You’ll be able to see the difference in the hull slop on any bridle wire camera shots
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
Ha! I think approval will not be given on one of the new boats. I certainly wouldn;t
@dave1082
@dave1082 7 месяцев назад
Did you check the diagonals? One bow could further forward than the other. We used to check the diagonals when tightening up the tramp. A fellow sailor in my area back in the 80's had a cradle for glueing H16s together. The old boats from California has looser castings than the French boats. Measure from port bow pin to starboard rudder pin and visa versa, as well as for level. Also there is 2 part tickened epoxy in a big double syringe that works pretty well.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
I wish i'd have seen your comment before making the video. No I didn't check. Hopefully the boat will be straight enough not to notice. I st least made sure that the boat was level.
@dave1082
@dave1082 6 месяцев назад
you can still check. The French castings are a lot better than the old California ones, maybe the diagonals are fine. IDK if it matters if the boat is a little better on one tack than the other. @@JoyriderTV
@Notturno25
@Notturno25 Месяц назад
Hi Joy! how long did the epoxy became dry and we can mount back the trampoline?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV Месяц назад
I left it for 3 days to be sure - I think 1 day would be enough though.
@lelandlee8656
@lelandlee8656 7 месяцев назад
Now everyone is gonna go out and glue their hulls 😂
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
Ha! Yes, I'd wait until i report back after sailing her!
@rjfleet
@rjfleet 7 месяцев назад
I've read that the West Epoxy will release if heated to around 140F degrees.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
Good to know. I'll try that at the other end of the season.
@chrisfisichella6659
@chrisfisichella6659 6 месяцев назад
@@JoyriderTV heat will definitely make the epoxy flow again. It's reversible.
@FrankJohnson-d5v
@FrankJohnson-d5v 7 месяцев назад
Where in America Joe? If you're coming my way, the first round is on me 😉
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
Ok, I'm in! Starting off Lake Lanier Georgia this Sunday, down to Navarre Fl Monday then to Ocean Springs Ms Wednesday.
@FrankJohnson-d5v
@FrankJohnson-d5v 6 месяцев назад
@JoyriderTV Wow quite the itinerary 👍 Nice beaches up there in the Florida panhandle for sure but about 10 hrs from me, on a good day, traffic-wise. But if I launch the cat. Friday, I could get there at least by Monday 🤔 Wnds allowing ofc... Check Google Earth for Clearwater Beach FL. In many ways, better than the panhandle, but in many other ways not as good. Just different, each great in their own way 🙂 Sunsets on Clearwater Beach are better, sipping a nice brew on the sand, watching the girls go by 🥰. The beaches on our west coast face west so the sunsets are awesome whereas up there you're facing south so...but the sands are a touch softer, "sugar sand" squeaky underfoot even. A couple of great restaurants down here too. Be sure to try and get over to go out on Pensacola Beach pier. Great spot. 👍 Also, the water is much more clear up there. Good diving in that respect. Down here we have Tampa Bay real close and its estuaries can make the water a bit murkier. Here's to hoping you have a great time. 🍺 🍻 first 3 on me 😂 Would be funny if Leeland Lee and I showed up there and said BOO, huh 😉 P. S. We have Pier 60 here, also a great pier...lots of tasty Snook to be caught via rod and reel for a fish fry 😋 From or near (on my Aquasport) that pier. I'm lucky to live in Florida \o/ Though Vasaliki looks pretty awesome in its way too.
@alextheboatguy399
@alextheboatguy399 6 месяцев назад
Hey Joe I have a question can I rent a sailboat like a laser for some time at wildwind?
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
Yes absolutely. Monday and Friday mornings not so good. Email: ash.deaton@wildwind.co.uk for details
@meric1888
@meric1888 6 месяцев назад
have converted my hobie passport to a tri-maran with solid twin outriggers jo. its a sailed up beast..luck with the epoxy/siko job...cheers
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
Very cool!
@meric1888
@meric1888 6 месяцев назад
ta ...have a wonderful time in the states Jo...yesxa stroke stuffed me but my love of the water and sailing has helped soo much...🎉​@@JoyriderTV
@meric1888
@meric1888 7 месяцев назад
maybe you were a boat builder in another life jo...cheers
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
I don't think so! I'm just kind of guessing, seems to work though.
@offordgraham
@offordgraham 7 месяцев назад
I don't think the side bar epoxy stiffens the boat, it's more the cross beams that help.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
For sure - I wanted to glue the sides because they were so worn, there were small chunks of metal coming off.
@meric1888
@meric1888 6 месяцев назад
hey joyrider groupies...in the not too distant future cats will have foils on hulls i think... cheers
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
It certainly could be on the cards!
@pburgvenom
@pburgvenom 7 месяцев назад
Even my HORRIBLY abused 14 and 16 Lots of mast high swells, wave riding and jumping never had a problem… but I imaging some do loosen up
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
This one had so much independent hull movement that I felt that it was time to fix it. Hopefully the difference will be significant
@offordgraham
@offordgraham 7 месяцев назад
Marine grease, on the pilons, come off easy.
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
Another in the category of 'should have done that'
@pburgvenom
@pburgvenom 7 месяцев назад
🍕I Like Pizza🍕
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
Who doesn't?
@nossaart710
@nossaart710 7 месяцев назад
Plis Brasil, legendas português 😢
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
Yes, sorry, it sometimes takes a few days for youtube to make the subtitles available. As soon as they are available, i will include the translations.
@nossaart710
@nossaart710 7 месяцев назад
Legenda em português 😢
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 7 месяцев назад
Sim, desculpe, às vezes leva alguns dias para o youtube disponibilizar as legendas. Assim que estiverem disponíveis, incluirei as traduções.
@HobieHighLife
@HobieHighLife 6 месяцев назад
conventional wisdom said not to epoxy the side rails
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
I'd have to ask why? They were rattling around a lot - very worn down, I thought if i was making front and back permanent then why not do the sides?
@HobieHighLife
@HobieHighLife 6 месяцев назад
I guess the logic is that tramp tensions the sidebars... you will be able to report how it goes with it all epoxied though.
@meric1888
@meric1888 6 месяцев назад
when epoxy is total dry ...smere a little sikoflex around the glue job to stop salty water corrosion... could become soden over time... use masking tape and remove it when siko is tacky....cheers
@JoyriderTV
@JoyriderTV 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tip, I will do that when I get back
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