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Hobie Passport 12.0 Demo and Review: Best Cheap Pedal Kayak? 

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I took out a Hobie Passport 12.0 from the Headwaters Adventure Company for an on-the-water demo and review. Is this the best cheap pedal kayak?
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Комментарии : 145   
@HeadwatersKayak
@HeadwatersKayak 4 года назад
Thanks for always being so on it with these reviews Moo.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thank you for letting me take the kayak out for a spin. Always fun trying out different kayaks.
@alchemistlee5882
@alchemistlee5882 3 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors Thank you for the video. How do you put the rudder up right before you land? Thanks.
@garybeckwith9045
@garybeckwith9045 Год назад
I am 73 and live in Japan on the entrance to Tokyo Bay looking for a good pedal kayak. I have been in contact with the local Hobie office and am impressed with their service. Your review has sold me on the 12 vice 10.5 without sales promotion comments. You touched on material flexiblility and surf launching which is exactly the information I was looking for. Knocking rudder down was a question I had that no video I've found to this point touched on. Thank you!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors Год назад
Thank you. Enjoy your new Passport 12.
@traviswhitworth6506
@traviswhitworth6506 4 года назад
When I get my wife a pedal kayak, this is the first one were going to demo. She just wants to use it for rec.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
It will an excellent kayak for rec. Yes I always recommend demo'ing before purchase. Thanks for watching.
@jerrykrobby
@jerrykrobby 4 года назад
Interesting opening comments on a 13 foot 30" wide kayak. I am wanting Hobie to stretch out the Revo 13 & 16 models by 9" to 1 foot and increase the width by one inch and add a rectangle center hatch. This would make the Revo 13 right at 30" wide. I believe it would make both kayaks faster and increase stability.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
To be honest, I absolutely love the dimension of the Revo 13. If I were to change 1 thing, It would be narrowing the kayak 0.5 inches to 28 inches. I think 13.5 feet length provides good speed without compromising portability. The truth is 13.5 feet is the maximum length that I can store at my home 😂🤣.
@jerrykrobby
@jerrykrobby 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoorsThanks for the feedback. Looking at Hobie's track record many are saying either this year or next year they will be revamping the Revo following the revamping of the Outback. As with the Outback any changes to the Revo would be welcomed by some and hated by others lol. Take care sir.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Updating a Revo is long overdue I think. They pretty much didn't change the hull for over a decade. When they do revamp it, I hope I can store it at my home 😆😆.
@oldguyriders
@oldguyriders 2 года назад
Great review. I like all of your reviews and insight. I like how you show the bottom of the kayak which is often overlooked in reviews. I’m going to buy a Hobie passport 12 so I really appreciate the nice job you did on this review. Thanks.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
Thank you. I really appreciate it. Yes, I think the showing the bottom is very important because you can get a very good idea of efficiency and stability just by looking at the hull.
@truenorthangler
@truenorthangler 4 года назад
Great review MooMoo. Really happy with your demonstration. Great yak for someone with a smaller budget.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks Adrian. You can't really beat it for the price.
@Yak-life757
@Yak-life757 4 года назад
I just subscribed to your channel and your review on this kayak helped me before purchasing my passport 12. Thx Moo!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Grats on Passport 12
@sperrinoutdoors7642
@sperrinoutdoors7642 4 года назад
Great Review and demo buddy thanks for sharing
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thank you 😊
@Fishing247
@Fishing247 4 года назад
Great review as always Moo.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thank you as always
@ChipsOutdoorChannel
@ChipsOutdoorChannel 4 года назад
When I first saw that kayak, I thought it looked like a great option! Seems like it's a great kayak for the price! My wife has been wanting to get one like this. I'm not convinced she's going to use it enough but we'll see. I better not let her see this video or she'll be wanting this one 😂
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
If she doesn't uses it, you can you it. Win win situation 😉
@ChipsOutdoorChannel
@ChipsOutdoorChannel 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors Moo, you're married... What's mine is hers and what's hers is hers haha!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
@@ChipsOutdoorChannel 😆😆😂😂🤣🤣
@GoTrails
@GoTrails 4 года назад
Beautiful place for kayaking, Thanks for posting ...
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks 😊
@harryprothero7960
@harryprothero7960 3 года назад
Two on order... thanxs for the review!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 3 года назад
thank you for the comment.
@westcoastfishingbrossuarez7436
@westcoastfishingbrossuarez7436 4 года назад
Thanks bud I think I’m going too try this one over the new foot paddle kayak that I’m waiting for u too make on the new vibe foot paddle this one seems too fit my budget great video keep them coming. Would this kayak be good for the ocean and for sturgeon of course the type of fishing that you do?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Yes, this would be good for all the fishing that I do for someone on a budget. Like I said in passport 10.5 video, the bow end sits a bit lower on the water so you might get more water coming over on to the deck in choppy conditions which I don't mind at all.
@westcoastfishingbrossuarez7436
@westcoastfishingbrossuarez7436 4 года назад
Ok sounds good yea I wouldn’t mind that at all because we are on the water and that close too the water. That’s perfect then
@MobyLife
@MobyLife 4 года назад
You have great weather there, I see :) Cool review!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thank you. It was a warm day out.
@pingpong808
@pingpong808 4 года назад
I agree, a 13’ long, 30” wide Passport, or even better, a Compass, would be the sh!t, but a 14’ something long, 29” wide Revolution would be my dream! I love my Revo 16, but it can get sketchy with a lot of gear, and a big tuna on big water. Also, the front hatch on the 16 isn’t easily accessible. Going to trade it in soon for a Revo 13, unless Hobie comes out with an updated Revo line of kayaks for 2021.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
I would love to have a Revo 16 in my fleet but I do not have a storage for it. My Revo 13 barely fits. But, I do like the idea of 14 foot and change long Revo.
@OfficeofthePacific
@OfficeofthePacific 4 года назад
Great job, Moo! Rock on!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks 😁
@OfficeofthePacific
@OfficeofthePacific 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors just out of curiosity what is your favorite kayak if you could only pick one for ocean fishing?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
@@OfficeofthePacific Hobie Revolution 13. In my opinion, it's got perfect combination of portability, efficiency stability and of course the pedal drive.
@OfficeofthePacific
@OfficeofthePacific 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors okay. Great. It seems like the Outbacks take a lot of water over the bow... especially the later models. I was all set to get an Outback 2020 and then a buddy of mine changed my mind. It doesn't seem like there is a perfect kayak out there. They all seem to have good and bad points. For now I'm gonna stick with the junker I have... I'm kind of digging it so far. Cost me a whopping $234 before taxes... 🤣😂🤣😂
@hookjawhunters9419
@hookjawhunters9419 4 года назад
Nice boat review moo! Nice light weight boat.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Especially for the price, can't beat it.
@julianalderson3938
@julianalderson3938 3 года назад
Great vid, prob rather a compass. But gets pricey an for what i want looks good. Few mods. Had a cheaper pedalfish 10 but yer was noisy n felt like might give up any minute, plus rudder cable issues. Passport looks solid cheers.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 3 года назад
For the price it's solid
@joenguyen-vlog8063
@joenguyen-vlog8063 4 года назад
Very nice! I guess the foot padder kayak is in. 😃
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
I love paddling but pedal kayaks are so convenient when fishing, especially when you are trolling.
@buddywilsonhjh9147
@buddywilsonhjh9147 4 года назад
That's a pretty good deal on those I was really going back and fourth when I was buying but I really do like my pelican. Ready to get it out more 👊✌️
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
I have not seen a pelican pedal drive in person yet. I look forward to seeing in your video at least.
@buddywilsonhjh9147
@buddywilsonhjh9147 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors it has the rudder deploy rope like you were saying this one is missing. I really like it. It tracks nice even with rudder up 👍. It feels roomy for a yak 💪👍
@JohnAmes
@JohnAmes 4 года назад
Thanks buddy for the great video my friend
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks John 😊
@GINCHANNELcar_moto
@GINCHANNELcar_moto 4 года назад
Very nice. So beautiful
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks 😊
@piyachetty3023
@piyachetty3023 3 года назад
Awesome review moo thanks 👍
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 3 года назад
Thank you
@sagishimonovitz
@sagishimonovitz 11 месяцев назад
Based on your ocean experience, what would you recommend for a sea worthy with good secondary stability pedal kayak under $2000? Not looking for a fishing kayak. We are currently thinking that the Passport 12 R might be the best compromise.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 11 месяцев назад
Yes Passport 12 would be a good choice for under $2000 especially now with the Hobie sale. Also look for used Revo 13, Compass, Outback. Oldtown Salty would be a real good option if you don't mind the prop drive and if you can find a used one. I have not tried but FeelFree Moken 12 pedal drive and Lightning Nomad could be good options too.
@sagishimonovitz
@sagishimonovitz 11 месяцев назад
@@MooMooOutdoors outback is too heavy. It would be a second kayak on a roof rack with my Swell Scupper. I have not found the others in Southern California at reasonable prices. Thanks again for being one of the best content generators out there. I find your content reasonable and reliable. Not driven by giveaways from manufacturers as far as I can tell.
@comcast515
@comcast515 4 года назад
Great review Moo!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thank you. I greatly appreciate it.
@maldrury8313
@maldrury8313 4 года назад
Nice review Moo. You make an important point regarding the weight for cartopping and transporting. There are some really good kayaks available that I would never consider because they are too heavy. If you are launching over sand it can be hard work getting the yak to the water even on a cart with sand tyres.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks. I don't know how people do it with heavy kayak.
@joshdrums5126
@joshdrums5126 4 года назад
Great video. Does the compass have deployable rudder? I'm trying to decide between the two. I will be doing mainly bay fishing so will be getting into shallows.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Yes Compass does just like the Outback.
@stephendenlinger3514
@stephendenlinger3514 2 года назад
Hey Moo, great review. Much appreciated. Quick question... Does the rudder come up when reaching the beach? Otherwise, how do you get the rudder up when returning to shore? Thanks.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
Yes, as long as you are going forward the rudder will come up. The rudder system is my least favorite part of this kayak.
@stephendenlinger3514
@stephendenlinger3514 2 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors Hey Moo, can't thank you enough for your prompt reply. Another question... I'm thinking of the Passport cuz of its light weight and transportability for exploring the Mexican coast from Los Mochis south toward Puerto Vallarta and Mazatlan. Is there a better choice for coastal cruising that you would recommend?
@1FishinAddict
@1FishinAddict 4 года назад
Should atleast come with 180 drive as standard.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
That would be nice
@RoadLifePursuits
@RoadLifePursuits 4 года назад
Do you think it's better than the OT Topwater 120 PDL? It looks a little tippy to me... Of course, I have the TW 120 PDL :O
@kencar8961
@kencar8961 4 года назад
Looking forward to Moo's opinion on this...
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Topwater 120 PDL and Passport 12.0 is a different animal in my opinion. It will depend what a individual kayaker want out the the boat. As for me, I prefer lighter and narrower kayak since I cartop my kayak 99% of the time and I prefer speed/efficiency over primary stability. That's why my main kayak is Revo 13 and I want to see Hobie to come out with 13 foot and 30 inch wide Passport. If you are a bigger person who needs extra primary stability or someone who simply wants extra stable kayak, Topwater would be a better fit. Topwater 120 is the most affordable kayak in it's "big kayak" class (with Hobie ProAngler and Native Titan) and a great option for those who are looking for extra stable kayak in my opinion.
@fischfreak1
@fischfreak1 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors i have also a revo13 grate kayak and super fast. I hope hobie make a new revo in some years...
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
@@fischfreak1 I think it will be hard to improve Revo 13 when it comes to the hull. I think they really nailed it. They can improve on sonar pod though.
@justinluc5345
@justinluc5345 3 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors how is the stability of the Topwater compared to the Passport in the swells? I think you mentioned in the other video that Oldtown high seat position makes it too heavy in open water.
@HBMaverick
@HBMaverick 4 года назад
Looks like a great kayak! 👍👍😎 ~Maverick
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Pretty nice kayak. Can't beat it for the price.
@fishnmusicn
@fishnmusicn 4 года назад
Great review Moo. This will be an excellent choice for pedal kayaks in this price range if more people will see it.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Yes great yak for people on a budget
@stevet8121
@stevet8121 4 года назад
When you come back to the beach how do you get the rudder up out of the way?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Cool thing about Hobie stow rudder is that when it hits the ground while going forward it will just lift up without getting damaged as long as the rudder is not locked in (no locking option on passport). I keep the rudder down when I'm surf landing during high surf for extra tracking.
@stevet8121
@stevet8121 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors Thanks, I didn't know that.
@RIDEON909
@RIDEON909 3 года назад
I was wondering that same thing
@christoefur8891
@christoefur8891 4 года назад
Hi Moo Moo Would you use this surf launching and in the ocean?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Yes I would since this actually paddles better than Outback in my opinion but you'll have a lot of water over the bow since the bow seats lower to the water.
@christoefur8891
@christoefur8891 4 года назад
MooMoo Outdoors thanks Moo!
@alex123803
@alex123803 4 года назад
Do you recommend this kayak for a beginner( want to get into kayak fishing) ?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Yes I do recommend this kayak to beginners and those who's on a budget. You do have to spend a little more for better quality.
@HopskysLounge
@HopskysLounge 4 года назад
looks like a nice kayak
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
For the money, great yak. Thanks Hops.
@jeffreyau1286
@jeffreyau1286 2 года назад
I’m a serious bass angler( sometime do tournament) And do a lot stand up fishing. Do u think this kayak can do the job or just more like a leisure fishing boat.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
I recommend Outback if you are serious bass angler. More primary stability so much easier to stand and fish. Also, better for rigging especially if you want to install side scan or live.
@tara_d_2020
@tara_d_2020 4 года назад
Hello! I am purchasing this exact kayak and also have an outback with factory roof rack - did you use anything extra for your roof rack or just tie downs? Thanks SO much!
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
No extra. Just tie downs.
@tara_d_2020
@tara_d_2020 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors Thanks again!
@dkat1108
@dkat1108 2 года назад
The rudder being manual kinda stinks...How do you pull it up when your coming in on some surf ?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
The rudder is my least favorite of this kayak. However, it does come up when you hit the ground going forward.
@freshsaltyfries5078
@freshsaltyfries5078 2 года назад
Passport vs salty pdl which is better?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
I have never been on the salty pdl but judging by the hull design salty pdl is more suitable for the ocean.
@jjz4874
@jjz4874 2 года назад
Is white hull will scare fish away?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
I have no clue if the color matters at all.
@The_Big_Soup3
@The_Big_Soup3 2 года назад
Never in my life would I ever see a video labeled "Best cheap pedal kayak?" when the kayak is 1800 dollars.
@travisf7849
@travisf7849 4 года назад
Would you pick this or the lightning strike?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
I don't know because I haven't tried the lightning strike. I'm not a big fan of the hull design of the lightning though.
@jjz4874
@jjz4874 2 года назад
Which one pedal faster? Passport or outback?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
I didn't have the gps but passport felt faster getting up to speed due to haul design and the weight. As far as the top speed, I'm not sure.
@freshsaltyfries5078
@freshsaltyfries5078 Год назад
Passport vs hobie lynx which is basically ride?
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors Год назад
I'm not understanding your question.
@freshsaltyfries5078
@freshsaltyfries5078 Год назад
@@MooMooOutdoors great review I had a question I’m interested in a hobie kayak don’t want something to heavy. Between passport vs lynx which kayak performs better for fishing?
@benruthlessburger8905
@benruthlessburger8905 4 года назад
Can you do the sport next ? Thx
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Are you interested in Hobie Sport for yourself? It's a very small kayak made it a very small person.
@tylerruben6177
@tylerruben6177 4 года назад
You think itd be easy to stand up in still at 6'4
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
The kayak itself might not fit you well because I'm at 2nd or 3rd notch with my Revo 13 but I had to go 4th notch with passport 12.0 on the mirage drive. Standing up shouldn't be an issue but the chair does sit a little low and does not have height adjustment. How much do you weigh?
@justinluc5345
@justinluc5345 3 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors would you recommend this for a 240 lbs person? With minimal gear onboard.
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN
@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN 2 года назад
It probably wouldn't be that hard to make a lifting mechanism attached to some cord and a cleat, same with lowering, it wouldn't be hard.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 2 года назад
Great idea
@jiyoonvlogs
@jiyoonvlogs 4 года назад
Một mình lái thuyền đi câu cảm giác thật thú vị 🤗👍🥰
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Kayaking is so much fun. 😊😊
@Daniel-wb5zu
@Daniel-wb5zu 4 года назад
damn that's a good kayak for the price
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
You can't beat it for the price 😉
@bassiclogic
@bassiclogic 3 года назад
You can convert that drive to a 180 drive for less than $300.00
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 3 года назад
You won't be able to convert but I think you can upgrade. If you can it should be less than $300.
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 3 года назад
NVM you can but conversion kit is around $350.
@cortezthekiller8178
@cortezthekiller8178 3 года назад
Does it have reverse
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 3 года назад
Passport does not come with 180 drive but you can upgrade.
@brappie8571
@brappie8571 4 года назад
Dropped a like 👍
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks 😊👍
@rubyredlopez4
@rubyredlopez4 4 года назад
I recommend checking out the anglerfishing app. Big fan i watch all your videos im from the bayarea
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Thanks for watching and the comment. Is "anglrfishing" the one you are talking about?
@dannyo957416
@dannyo957416 4 года назад
I had the 10 foot version, I hated it the rudder is horrible
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Yes the rudder is my least favorite part of this kayak.
@CheekyMonkey888
@CheekyMonkey888 Год назад
I just bought the 12r version, immediately changed the rudder, hull slap is non effing stop, does hobie even test these things
@israelrivas134
@israelrivas134 4 года назад
A Passport 13, 30inch lol MO you asking for a 2021 revo 😂
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Yes that is $1599 😜😂🤣. Passport 12.0 is basically a cheap compass or Outback 😉.
@israelrivas134
@israelrivas134 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors I was thinking of getting that one but idk about the stability and it may seem good on a lake but in the ocean whole different scenero
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
@@israelrivas134 It all depends on personal need but passport 12.0 has plenty of stability in my opinion. As you know I fish out of Revo 13 and I prefer narrower kayak than wide kayak with more primary stability. A master kayaker once said "there is no tippy kayak, only tippy kayaker." 😉
@israelrivas134
@israelrivas134 4 года назад
@@MooMooOutdoors that's true! One wave comes lol then you fall😂 not the kayak the kayaker
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
@@israelrivas134 😂😂🤣🤣
@koboykncsukabumi679
@koboykncsukabumi679 4 года назад
fishing mania
@johorvath42
@johorvath42 4 года назад
Doesnt look like a 6'4 guy would be comfortable peddling that unfortunately
@MooMooOutdoors
@MooMooOutdoors 4 года назад
Unfortunately not. For a 6'4 person, Revo 13 and Outback would be good.
@luuquangminhpro
@luuquangminhpro 4 года назад
so nciey girjedn
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