Running this on a a Sig p320 XTen. Satisfied with the brightness for sure. Feels well built and relatively user friendly. Would love to see a Holster for the Xten from you as its difficult enough to find them with light bearing compatability.
Love the videos and the research you do. Very informative, methodical and concise. I also love the holster I got from your company. I've seen your light shootout videos and I thought it would be interesting to see a video of a light shootout from one particular brand at a time(the best Surefire or best Olight). Then take the best of each brand and have a best of the best shootout. That way if someone is partial to one brand over another they can watch one video of that manufactures lights and make a decision of which light from that brand would work best for their application. Keep up the great work gents!
I've owned most of the more popular lights in recent times minus the Modlight and Inforce but the Holosun really surprised me as far as the light intensity and build construction. Went ahead and bought one for $89.99 from my FFL that ive done a ton of business with. Placing my order for a compatible holster right after this.
Tricky momentary mode? Guess we’ll have to wait for the x2 model. Lol. In all seriousness their red dots are great. I can afford “top tier” but choose to run 509’s and aems due to the great feature set. This will probably be the light to beat at some point. Great honest review. As usual.
with how many versions they have of this light now you should do a comparison video and give your opinion on if you were to buy a holosun pid which one you would buy
I just stumbled on to this channel and I’m glad I did. This is phenomenal information and very well put together. Thank you for taking the time to do these videos. I’m very impressed.
I'll probably still get it to review but the low run time, press in switches, and low mode have me face palming. PSA to all weapon light manufacturers...STOP MAKING WEAPON LIGHTS WITH LOW MODES. Anything that requires low mode is an admin task in which case you use a separate admin light.
I actually sort of like the low mode pitch dark situations. It doesn't totally screw your night adjusted vision. Personally, I feel like it's just one more thing to break though, and I'm not a fan of using a weapon light in general as a civilian. I try and avoid pointing my weapon at anything before it's been positively ID'd.
@abc4781 I do use a light, it's just not mounted on the front of my pistol. In a tactical or home defense setting, pistol lights are fine. If it's an EDC/CCW you may want to look at your state/local laws on brandishing a firearm. Remember, when the light is mounted on the gun, whatever you point the light at is also being flagged by your muzzle. Personally, if I'm in a position where I need a flashlight to ID a potential attacker, I've already screwed up on the grounds of situational awareness and making smart choices... in the event I do find myself in that position, though, I'll probably just fall back on what I've trained on as military police in the past, and a civilian now: Hold the light in my non dominant hand with the tailcap at my thumb, and rest my firing hand on my non dominant wrist. Sure, you're lacking on followup shot speed, but if you're fighting with a flashlight in the dark, that's probably not going to be an issue. I like the idea behind a weapon light, it's garbage laws that make them a potential problem. 🤷♂️
Very interesting. Really like Holosun optics, but I will stick with Streamlight as they have excellent products and very good customer service if needed.
I don’t know why ppl bash on press in paddles. Although I have to use the Surefire X300 for duty and have gotten used to it, I don’t really care for the flip down switches. It doesn’t feel natural to me. Press in switch on the other hand feels more natural for me, which is why I always wanted to like the Inforce APL models but we all know Inforce sucks. This light from Holosun looks promising. Thx!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I think it comes down to preference. I'll share mine, and let folks like you make up their own mind. I will say that momentary mode is near useless using side press-in paddle switches -- only about 1 in 5 people will keep their finger on the switch under fire.
Training will likely resolve the momentary switch activation issues for most folks. I see this product being popular with the first time, home defense type gun buyer who doesn't want to spend too much.
Yes... or just don't use momentary. That said, there are proven designs that work better, such as the TLR-7A switches. Perhaps Holosun will come out with a P.ID rev A... :)
Momentary should be used for the flash and move technique. You shouldn't hold it down for more than a second or two. For that you would use the on-off position.
@@WerkzHolsters I have 2 of those lights and they are absolutely great so far. TLR1 HL was my favorite till this came out. I’m a bit of looks snob as well and holosun just looks and feels amazing. I do miss the strobe opyof TLR1 but slightly prefer PID switches. Thank uou for always being ahead of the game when it comes to lights. Cheers!
Interesting offering from HS but the extended time and press for momentary is far too lang for my taste. That’s the same reason I stopped carrying Olight. As always, great video.
Both being Chinese companies (well, Holosun is claimed to be an American company owned by Chinese tho), which light company would you rate higher, holosun or Olight? Or something else like Fenix?
@@dearbulls k well you said both being Chinese companies I assumed you meant the 2 primary lights featured in this video which was streamlight and holosun
I'm upgrading my pl mini 2 soon I was trying to decide between this and the TLR 1. Thanks for the awesome review, all though I really like rechargeable and it looks bright, I'm going with the Streamlight
@WerkzHolsters will you please make an OWB holster for this setup? I run this light and absolutely love it and I based my purchase off of this video and I am very happy with it, especially since I have the PID matched up with the Holosun EPS Carry and it works great and looks dope. So how about making your Origin Outlier, PLEASE make this here OL US Army Veteran happy! I guarantee you will have at least one sold already if you do. BravoJulietAlpha Out.
@@TheWeekendShooter308 There are just so many Glocks out there that we typically release holster support first for Glocks. That said, Sig has been coming on strong. I like offerings from so many companies, but Glock and Sig seem to be the most popular among my customers. Thanks for the feedback!
They are different. The old square claw you have is going to be more aggressive. If you want an aggressive claw, (#1) you're set. If you want a less aggressive claw, then the newer rounded (#2) claw is the ticket. I (Jamison) prefer the more aggressive square claw.
@@WerkzHolsters awesome and thank you. Yes the square one is a little harder than some others to get in and out. I will try the rounded one. This was my first Kydex holster and I have to say.. I’ve tried a bunch since and yours truly is underrated. Thanks again for always responding too.
Nice review, but as far as larger pistol wml's go, I'll stick with my Surefire X300U's. I'll pay the higher price for the known reliability of Surefire and the greater compatibility with holsters.
@Werkz Holsters Love my Werkz appendix holster for my Hellcat Pro with a tlr7 sub. It was my first purchase from Werkz and I will definitely be a repeat customer.
@@carbonking53 I'm thankful for you and your kind words. We now have an Origin for your setup... you might want to check it out if you ever want to carry OWB. Blessings!
GREAT comparison vid! Thanks for the work put into this. I'm considering if or what light I should put on my Beretta A300 Ultima Patrol--both lights look pretty good and I tend to like sideways touch, so might consider the Holosun. In your opinion, do you think these lights would both handle a semiauto shotgun recoil without issue?
Holosun makes great red dots and now have introduced a weapon light that appears to be a third date between Olight and Streamlight. It’s a good price for those who like to experiment with gear, but honestly- most of Holosuns market until 3 years ago was non LE and non military. Until they get a big government contract, don’t expect robust performance (constant 1,000+ lumen/ high candela) for hours of time.
I love Holosun, but if I can get a similar product from a US-based company at a comparable price, 9/10 I'm going to go with the US company, unless it's aesthetically unpleasing or there are some issues with the company itself. Now, if it were competing with something like Olight, I'd go with the Holosun every time.
Jan, I tend to agree that a low mode is pointless (with weapon mounted lights, at least), ESPECIALLY if we're talking about something like an Olight PL3 Werkz reviewed where you can never be sure which mode you're going into. However, since Holosun was smart and made it so that you have to very deliberately switch to the low mode and you can eliminate the fear that you'll accidentally activate it, I actually think this could be useful for training. Most of the actual low/no-light shooting I do is done out in the woods where there's zero light at all, and since halving the output should double my battery life without actually risking anything, I could see switching to low mode for situations like that and just always carrying it on high mode. As easy as batteries are to change and as cheap as 18350s are, this shouldn't really even be necessary, but when you might only get like 30 minutes out of a battery I suppose it is a nice feature. Plus if you're doing a lot of reps you can avoid getting the light hot and throttling the performance anyway. For that reason, as a feature that doesn't hurt the usability or experience at all, I'm glad they included it. I have the P.ID High Candela version on the way, along with a holster for it, and I'm pretty exited to try it. Since the high mode is like 42,000 candela and the low mode is half of that, it should still match the performance of my TLR-1s. I think that would be plenty bright for most of the actual training that I do.
@@BuckTheSystem I appreciate your insights here! And yes, thankfully, the low mode seems to stay away from normal operations if you don't want it, which is critical.
Someone needs to create a Bluetooth touch screen style button that can go on the accel cuts, or gas pedal area, that communicates with lights. That way no extra pressure is added to the light, causing point of impact shifts, and makes use and accuracy less of a training curve and forefrontal brain factor. Also, screw Surefire, with their "activates when drawn" feature. That will definitely get cops and CCW folks killed. Giving away any tactical position, and also reduces battery life. Way too gimmicky for my taste.
Holosun made a great light at a great price and then messed it all up with an absolutely stupid switch design. The idea of holding for momentary and quick press for constant is stupid. Just make the switch simple, on/off.
@@WerkzHolsters i really hope so. Holosun does seem to be very good at innovating and pushing the boundaries of what a product can be. Now that they’re in the light game it’s only a matter of time before they come out with something that is a beast
For a lot of people it is going to be a selling point, and Holosun will sell a ton of these--look at how many people have the Olights... But I agree--for me, being able to replace batteries as needed is a must.
@@charlie-tangomotors2516 Exactly. Stock up on a few, carry charged ones like you do CR123s, and cycle out as needed. But you don't throw them away, and you have the option to charge on the weapon.
