Homelander vs. Ryan Begins! Butcher's Death Triggers a Supe Civil War EXPLAINED | The Boys Season 4 

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He probably has an idea

That's actually a point I feel like they've just decided not to bring up anymore. Plot wise it doesn't make much sense why this would be a one off incident and Homelander is into the milk stuff and being told he is the most oppressed person in the world.

Yet no one thought of this brilliant idea.

@@solaire07 it's possible that Ryan realized this at the end of his big speech on TV and that's why he stepped away instead of finishing his speech

It tells us he isn't dead, and his parasite/cancer is alive and well.

Maybe it means the good in him died, and all that's left is his inner demons? 🤔

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what about his inner becca? the hell happened to her? she kept butcher in check

The cancer will take control is my prediction ​@@Adventist1997

Is this a prediction or leaks?

@@Pubert-hu1sy Educated guess

it's illegal to have cctv cameras in california to texas so he might not be caught tbh

​@@SinisterTheScorpionNo it's not an educated guess Kessler hasn't attacked unless Butcher is gonna die.

Butcher is gonna kill neuman next episode

I mean if Sister Sage was gonna kill him anyway and that was her plan all along and she is a million times smarter than him, then as dumb of a decision it may have been to replace her, he at least put some distance between them and stopped her from being able to sabotage him directly internally (I know im playing devils advocate here, but im not trying to defend him, just a thought I had.)

@@astromeo3467lol. That’s a weak attempt. See how he was about to cry when those politicians were giving him soft ball questions?! And Firecracker might go next because she clearly doesn’t know how messed up he is. Plus, he was so upset that he REJECTED HER? Bruh.

@@kelthekonqrr oh no I in no way think it was purposeful, I am just saying he may have inadvertently avoided direct sabotage that wouldve resulting in his failure and murder (if it bought him a bit kore time to live it was definitely a case of him failing upwards lmfao)

Fire Cracker has killed people

What I don't get is why would sage leak real information to sage

Ngl I'd be laughing my ass off

This was my theory after finding out about the shape shifter also,this way Sage would destroy his reputation as the saviour😂

What does debunking homelanders plan mean and do? Its like the blackmail "leverage" the boys used in season 1 and 2, which is a weak ass excuse to keep the plot moving despite the fact that by its own internal logic, it shouldnt.

That is probably what will happen...

Unfortunately that’s not what happens. Neuman dies and the president is arrested for plotting to have her killed. There is no president left and the treasurer guy (the old dude from the tell knight party) shows homelander to soldier boy

Ooooooooo that's a good one

She wont WARNING THIS IS NOT A PREDICTION THIS IS ACTUAL EPISODE What will happen in episode 8 1. Hughie will propose to shapeshifter 2. Neuman will be killed by butchers powers (terrible cgi) 3. Malory dies killed by ryan after they capture him 4. Homelander tells the seven to kill EVERY human in the tower, they lock all the doors and bloodbath begins 5. Ashley tries to save herself and takes the v that she stole from homelander, the noir comes to her room to kill her but compound v has bad effect on her, her skin falls apart and this is the most gory scene in the series, 6. Homelander Releases all the locked up supes from cia facility 7.ryan kills nurse in the vought tower and is happy about it wants to kill and homelander is terrified 8. We see soldier boy being "killed" by homelander, he gets his life supplies turned off by him 9. We see fights as, kimiko vs sam, Frenchie vs cate, starlight and hughie vs cindy and butcher vs neuman, 10. Assasination on singer wont work because when hughie and shapeshifter sit in the bunker, hughie notices that statlight is not "real" 11. Assasination may not be happening but still supes ABSOLUTELY take after the whole city if not country and they are telling people to kill all the starlighters 12. All of the boys have to leave the country 13. Butcher is terrified of his powers and drives away because he killed neuman infront of hughie and her daughter and zoe reminds him of ryan killing his own mother Thats pretty much it you can ask me for something

stupid theories

@@fObickksource: trust me bro

@@carlosahumadda5320 yea xd Check my comment

I think that maybe when The Deep broke the aquarium some of the shattered glass may have hurt the octopus

You're as useless as Aquaman marine biologist. Get a real job.

why did she suffocate so quickly if she comes out of the tank to havee sex with deep?

Not a fish but that’s besides the point. I agree with what you said.

I honestly was thinking so much about this too. Like...that octopus wouldn't have died there. Those things are notorious for being difficult to contain I'm aquariums because of both of these facts...well that and also their high intelligence, as can *also* figure out how to open doors and containers.

Spoilers No he is more powerful than Homelander

I was thinking the same thing!

She will show up in the next epsiode

Oh they brought back love sausage too,The next season Is getting real!!!! Ill see yall next season.

Not at all, only similarity is that their father and son

Except homelander is the child

Don't pollute this fine tv show with your anime trash.

@@nemanjajovanov shut up

@@nemanjajovanovyou’re corny

Butcher and Homelander are literally the pillars of this show. Season 5 would suck without Butcher

​@@amanms1999I mean they can revive soldier boy

@@amanms1999 aye ur right no butche = trash show

He cant be as good as that,there will be darkness in him but he can still save people.

​@newhybrid101 It's not the fact that Superman is necessarily better than anyone. It's the fact that with all his powers, he chooses it to use it for the benefit of others. Supes is flawed, and he deals with darkness every day, yet finds the will to overcome it every time. That's what separates him from Homie. Anyone is capable of being Superman in sense of selflessness. Ryan is surely capable of being on Superman's level.

​​@@CyreseParrishNo.Look how Superman was raised and how Ryan was raised. Superman didnt have a father like Homelander. Superman was raised better,in a far better enviroment and much more mentally healthy etc. I have read the leaks for the future of The Boys,Ryan will still have some of Homelanders darkness in him You cant just erase all that trauma. Superman had two very loving parents and then learned about his other two real parents who were also great and loved him. Its not comparable. And again,spoilers say he kills someone and enjoys it,granted he does to escape from them trying to do to him what they did to Homelander as a kid

@newhybrid101 Yes, Ryan's trauma is definitely valid, and he sure does have a much rougher upbringing. Childhood upbringing is the foundation for how we all grow our to become. But while Ryan has gone through terrible trauma, Superman himself has gone through tons of extreme trauma as well. So has Homelander. The difference? Homelander allows his trauma to utterly consume him to the point where he's warped from an outgoing potential hero to an irredeemably selfish and vainglorius monster driven by darwinism, vengeance and a superiority/inferiority complex. Ryan has already shown signs of ultimately stirring away from his father's path. He was really only under the care of Homelander through his own choice, sure. But even a sociopathic narcissist like Homelander is capable of displaying some form of genuine love, and he was more outwardly affectionate towards him than Butcher, Ryan's only other choice of guardian at that point. But between the bonding time he had with Butcher behind Homie's back and constantly having to confirm to Voughts' increasingly taxing commands, all the while dealing with a stuck up and full of themselves father figure who is dismissive at best or forces(subtly or otherwise) into playing into the fantasy of holding this healthy father/son relationship, Ryan is slowly realizing how not just how corrupt Homelander(and by extension, Vought) is, he is also waking up to the notion of how much Homelander truly sucks to have as a dad. Ryan has the potential to overcome his trauma and become a "Superman" in his own right. Remember, Superman is symbolic for doing the right thing, regardless of what's happened to you in the past, or who you are or what power set you have. None of that matters as long as you can find a way to be in touch with your better self. Of course, I really don't need to get into Superman himself. That'd be redundant. My point is that your trauma doesn't give you the right to act like Homelander when you can be more like Superman. Regardless of whatever someone goes through, they ultimately have a choice to do right or wrong.

😂😂😂 stop joking.

Having theories is fine Having stupid theories is messy

@@andresfelipegaspar2980 Turns out I was about 80% right.

You are wrong

@@amir_wws he is right, none of the main cast are gonna die, homelander dying is gonna be the final episode

@@jaspermcgloin6728 you didn't read the leak did you

@@jaspermcgloin6728well, he didn’t say main cast..

@@amir_wws it doesnt matter they arent killing homelander or butcher like everyone says

WARNING THIS IS NOT A PREDICTION THIS IS ACTUAL EPISODE What will happen in episode 8 1. Hughie will propose to shapeshifter 2. Neuman will be killed by butchers powers (terrible cgi) 3. Malory dies killed by ryan after they capture him 4. Homelander tells the seven to kill EVERY human in the tower, they lock all the doors and bloodbath begins 5. Ashley tries to save herself and takes the v that she stole from homelander, the noir comes to her room to kill her but compound v has bad effect on her, her skin falls apart and this is the most gory scene in the series, 6. Homelander Releases all the locked up supes from cia facility 7.ryan kills nurse in the vought tower and is happy about it wants to kill and homelander is terrified 8. We see soldier boy being "killed" by homelander, he gets his life supplies turned off by him 9. We see fights as, kimiko vs sam, Frenchie vs cate, starlight and hughie vs cindy and butcher vs neuman, 10. Assasination on singer wont work because when hughie and shapeshifter sit in the bunker, hughie notices that statlight is not "real" 11. Assasination may not be happening but still supes ABSOLUTELY take after the whole city if not country and they are telling people to kill all the starlighters 12. All of the boys have to leave the country 13. Butcher is terrified of his powers and drives away because he killed neuman infront of hughie and her daughter and zoe reminds him of ryan killing his own mother Thats pretty much it you can ask me for something

@@fObickk yeah and how do you know this?

@@jaspermcgloin6728 leaks? Like bro all people in the reddit watched the episode i dont know how you guys still on some theories and shit

@@fObickk The reddit post was taken down and people could be lying like they always do

@@fObickkwait so does ashley die? her skin falls apart and then?.

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Nope. Simply because another season is already confirmed

Yeah, but there is another season.

Bro made the boys into an anime with the flashbacks 💀

I wonder what could possibly enrage him. Maybe the story of his conception....?

She knew everything about MM somehow, she definitely knows SB is alive

@@47dynasty28 I wonder if she's gonna go get Soldier Boy then

@@brodybayne he’s definitely going to return so that could be possible

Stan would probably suffer a heart attack from shock.

@@commodorezero despite what homelander thinks Stan doesn't hate him

The writers said that when he gets enraged his heat vision is ALREADY far stronger. But thats only when he is very pissed off

@@newhybrid101 i think that's because he was literally born with the powers and didnt get them in a lab so he cant loose powers and its more connected to his emotions

Maybe your right

Different octopus

​@@Lumantrixuh no that was Ambrosia

I can see that happening. I can see Ryan 10-20 times stronger then Homelander. Would be funny for his ego.

he could be telepathic with humans and just hiding it, dolphins brains are more like humans than fish?

@@seabreeze4559 I doubt it because he never seems to know what anyone else is thinking or feeling, was thrown off by Sage who's digits ahead of him IQ wise. And dolphins are smarter than fish and most mammals, their brains are bigger than humans but that's also a lot of fat to protect the brain from the cold, and while they are intelligent their brains are very different than humans because they evolved from a different branch of species. So if anything telepathy should be harder with them, and yet...

Oh, knowing this show, he'll definitely find out. I wouldn't be surprised if Homelander admits what he did to his mom during a fit of rage.

what does this even mean bro

This

No homelander is a play 9n homeland security. Not a home run

@victornieves1794 it's a reference to homeland security

@victornieves1794 .... homelanding isn't a baseball term dude. It's a home run or landing a homer/home run. This isn't a matter of debate its the comic creators reason. In the comic he has no connection to baseball and his fake back story is an alien who fell from space. Sound familiar

No it’s not bro

Just speculation he's not dead lol