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Homemade Railway Wheels! (For the 15" narrow gauge railway.)

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I made a set of four train wheels for my new field railway, and on the way I learned a lot. About flanges and flares, treads and tolerances. I hope you will learn something from this too, and maybe be inspired to build your own garden railway - it's such an exciting thing to do : - )
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@matthiaswandel 3 года назад

Loving this series. Maybe move the outer disc closer to the center in the ‘pipe’ section where the load will be more often to support the rim better?

@doobedoobedo1 3 года назад

I suspect over such a short span and with the circular shape, that 3mm steel is going to be pretty rigid. I guess it would depend ultimately how much load each wheel was bearing whether the ease of just lining up against an edge was outweighed by the extra strength.

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Thanks Matthias. Yes, I was even wondering if 3 discs would be worth it. Hmmm. It just depends which part of the whole arrangement is the weakest. More experiments needed!

@massimookissed1023 3 года назад

@@WayOutWestx2 , I was thinking you could fill the wheels with concrete. Oh, and there's an ad for polytunnel greenhouses under this vid. Google is on to you...

@lancesurgeon7614 3 года назад

I am looking forward to the next episode of “Tim the Tank Engine”!

@perr1don 3 года назад

Tim and Sandra your channel is a breath of fresh hair!

@Gorgonzola1970 3 года назад

A veritable exhibition of home-engineering genius! A masterclass in bodge your way to success! The true spirit of the pioneers of the industrial revolution reborn as Tim in a cluttered shed.

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Ha!

@rustinmyveins 3 года назад

“A horrible derailment in the donkey field...” That’s just a quote begging for wider use! Absolutely love your channel, Tim and Sandra!

@Nighthawkinlight 3 года назад

Wow those flanges came out amazing for pounding them out with a hammer! You think you could make much larger and sharper cones in your roller?

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Yes, but it would struggle with wide pieces over 4mm thick. (Well, I'd struggle anyway!)

@Greasyfingers60 3 года назад

I love your videos. Me and my son are following your progress from over in the USA.

@MarkMcCluney 3 года назад

Wow. That home-made pipe bender is worth tuning in for alone! Cheers mate.

@WayneCarolan 3 года назад

I’ve been really looking forward to this one. Thanks as always Way out West.

@jameskniskern2261 3 года назад

And how lucky we are that you are showing us what you are learning! Thank you.

@JeffMeadowsOutdoors 3 года назад

With your creativity I would not be surprised to see you build a locomotive to pull the railway cars. Your videos are very enjoyable to watch.

@ajdexter4195 3 года назад

Wooden wheels with a steel band around the wood for reinforcement, almost like the steel on a barrel? Love seeing the videos and how you come up with The solutions, much inspiring.

@rcfokker1630 3 года назад

That was my first thought, too. Very strong and cheap. You'd probably get away with the wheels running directly on the axles, with a good dollop of grease. I reckon that would be OK for this little project. Or, you could press in some simple bushes.

@samvalentine3206 3 года назад

I think that's how they made RR wheels back in the day. Just like RR rails were wood with iron nailed on top.

@ShortOrderCook 3 года назад

You never cease to amaze me Tim - (and you too Sandra - I'm sure you were cheering from the side-line 😄). Great episode!

@eckosters 3 года назад

I have always loved trains. Now that I live in Canada (since nearly 20 years), I don't get to ride them anymore. Strangely, for all my love of trains, I never wondered how they stay on their rails. So I'm loving this series and am in total awe - again - of your ingenuity.

@carralumsden8853 Год назад

Love it! I need your skillset for all of the metal work and engineering ideas I have. I'm watching the remainder tomorrow. Thank you for sharing. Peace and Blissings

@PaulMcGuinness 3 года назад

Am I the only one who comes here to listen to the melodic and calming tone of Tim's voice? (The engineering stuff is also good!)

@tiitsaul9036 3 года назад

I love your project. I’m so glad you are able to share tour contraptions with us.

@thaliahelene 3 года назад

Epic, Tim! So glad you have a workshop to expand your projects ^_^ Can’t wait for the iterations. Now, Tim’s cast iron foundry...mind boggle.

@viconichol 3 года назад

honestly this is the tread that must have a conus shape so that the wheels pair always tries to slip to the center of the railroad

@SimJackson 3 года назад

It really goes to show that you can cobble anything together with a bit of know how, so long as you're not too fussed about how it looks when you're finished so long as it is functional! Really simple rail design and points and a good idea for homemade wheels too! Keep up the good work!

@roseroserose588 3 года назад

Re tapers on treads: If you have enough spare material on the wheels it might be worth a go, if the tapers are opposite the cart should naturally fall into the middle of the tracks, which i believe should help with navigating corners without too much scraping! I think you could cut in a modest taper with an angle grinder and a rotating stand to keep them even (:

@roseroserose588 3 года назад

Having watched a bit further on and seeing you cnc the flanges, I wonder if you could do something similar with the tread? CNC cut the cone shape then roll it into position! CNCing the "spoke" sections also means that if you wanted, you could do custom design wheels! Perhaps you could have people on your patreon design wheels and cut them all out as a fun way of getting involved, assumign it wouldn't take too much extra time for you of course

@graemewhite5029 3 года назад

My neighbour bought a heap of small railway sleepers and a couple of bogies from a local peat works that was closing down (to preserve the bog ecosystem). These industrial peat bogs use lots of narrow gauge systems, might be worth checking for similar as there may be one or two of these in Ireland, to be sure !

@the_retag 3 года назад

There are loads in Ireland, he already checkes and they use a too large gauge

@terryfromsouthcarolina4601 3 года назад

I must admit the trains in the barn and backyard caught my attention first off. Back in the late 70's I was quite smitten by a fair young Irish lass that was an exchange student at Vanderbuilt University in Nashville Tennessee. I loved the sweet sound of her voice and could have spent eternity listening to it. But alas, she was already spoken for. So now that I hear that wonderful accent it takes me back to a much simpler time. Keep up with your railway videos and good luck! Have fun and be safe! Terry from South Carolina USA.

@leslieaustin151 3 года назад

Tim, were you trained as an engineer? If not, ingenuity is certainly in your blood! This is remarkable stuff. Thank you. Les

@kirstenwhitworth8079 3 года назад

Oh, well done! I am looking forward to seeing the next in series to learn about bearings and why you cannot make them yourself. I wish my father were still alive to see these; he loved trains and modelling. He taught me to love "puttering about" as he called building things in his garage.

@dodgydruid 3 года назад

You could have used scrap brake rotors which would have made mounting onto bearings a bit easier just using car bearings, stub axle's with a disc on would be very light too. Just trim the height of the disc down to suit and then turn a chamfer at the edge to give you the turn point. Also means you could knock up a mechanical brake with some ease too :)

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Thanks. I did look at them but I'd need a good lathe for them, wouldn't I? Hmm..

@josephpostma1787 2 года назад

Interesting Semi-Cyrilic namer-tag. You know pronouncing the first part of your name in russian/cyrilic is pronounced Shat suggesting poop.

@RoseThistleArtworks 3 года назад

Your inventiveness is always surprising and so interesting. Thank you for taking us along on the journey. Those look GREAT!

@dannystephane4644 3 года назад

Using brake rotor from an old truck might save lots works and the flange are already there just need to be modified cut and ground on an angle Just an idea look great can’t wait to see the finish rail and carts

@alexnosheds 3 года назад

Steel-on-wood friction points (in old windmills and water mills for example) used to be lubricated using tallow (animal fat). You may be able to get away with no ball bearings at all in a low-speed application like this- some hard-ish wood and the galvanised pipe, and maybe a drilled hole with a grease nipple in the wooden part to easily deliver grease to the friction points? Following this project with great curiosity!

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

thanks, Alex. Yes, watch this space!!!

@jigsey. 3 года назад

I'm sure this was how British rail used to make rolling stock on the Grantham to Skegness line 🤣🤣... Fantastic video

@ajaxengineco 3 года назад

Certainly. Same track-laying 'n all!

@mattsan70 3 года назад

You Tim and another Tim (Hunkin) are the most quintessential british back yard workshop inventors.

@noeonoohno4219 3 года назад

😭 he's not British but i think he would be gracious enough to forgive you.

@gonzo_the_great1675 3 года назад

I was thinking just the same. Though this Tim is not technically in Britain. (BTW, TH has some new videos coming out on his site and YT channel)

@mattsan70 3 года назад

@@noeonoohno4219 I thought Tim was from Wales I know he used to live there then moved to IRL

@tropifiori 3 года назад

Amazing- the way you think through these problems and then execute them with whatever is on hand! Happy Easter

@PlanetMojo 3 года назад

It seems as though setting up a small back-yard foundry may have been easier. There are a lot of other things you may want to cast as well, and you could sell $500.00 train wheels yourself. 🙂

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

I'm tempted!

@falifeshow 3 года назад

Wow! Bravo! I'm always surprised by your ingenious ways to solve this projects. I'm really into this project, and excited to see it working! My best for you and Sandra. Fabrizio.

@davekimbler2308 3 года назад

Looks like you know what you want and how to get it ! I was thinking riding lawnmower rims cut in half . 2 rims per car = 4 wheels

@johndouglasdawson7298 3 года назад

Great video watching this on Easter Sunday just brightens up my day. Thanks.

@AlbertFilice 3 года назад

Well done! Those turned out great! It's so fun watching your little track come together.

@Tolono 3 года назад

Here's an explanation of tapered tread: Imagine your wheels are going through a right-hand curve. As the wheels roll straight ahead the left flange will hit the rail, so the right wheel is rolling on the rail on the edge of the wheel opposite the flange. If that part of the wheel were narrower, the circumference would be smaller so that wheel would travel a shorter distance than the other one, making the train 'steer' around the curve and stay centered in the track! The flanges mostly won't touch the rail, so the wheels can't ride up and derail, and there's less friction from the wheels not sliding in a curve.

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Thanks. Yes, I know the theory and I will make some to compare, but I just wanted to show that straight treads work well too, and are much easier.

@MegabyteMii 3 года назад

I get more and more excited seeing how this project progresses!

@neilallen8351 3 года назад

Hello Tim & Sandra, I only discovered your channel a few weeks ago off the back of your railway project. I’d like to thank you for your lighthearted approach and most enjoyable content. I have now watched nearly all of your videos and I’ve enjoyed every one. There is so much valuable information in your content. It’s great to see someone who’s content to think outside the box and not afraid to share your learning experiences, even when sometimes there’s more learning to be done. Please keep doing what your doing and sharing your life.

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Thanks, Neil!

@brucesherman5625 3 года назад

I think your way of engineering solutions to various problems is fantastic. I always look forward to the next video .

@readmedottext 3 года назад

that was impressive! it is wonderful watching your working railroad come together with ingenuity and work.

@alanm3438 3 года назад

Wow, your do a lot of thinking and you reinvented the wheel. It looks like it will do the job. I am sure that the four wheels will carry at least a ton. Very good design and strong.

@Visigoth_ 3 года назад

I absolutely love this channel... you're the only RU-vidr doing this kind of content. - I'm seriously considering installing my own track on the Family Farmstead. 😃👍

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Thanks, Nathan. Go for it!

@nathandtanner 3 года назад

So inspiring to watch your projects. Thanks for sharing these videos, I love them

@forestreese1704 3 года назад

Loving the railway vids Tim. Keep up the good work!

@kranzonguam 3 года назад

Very interesting! Love the way you can think around problems! Take good care!

@michaelmcclafferty3346 3 года назад

Good job Tim. You are a clever and hardworking man.

@Apollo_Vanron 3 года назад

Very interesting! It's cool to see how far it has come along so far. Really neat stuff.

@teddill4893 3 года назад

Beautiful design. The wood side frames and bolster look great.

@raisagorbachov 3 года назад

Next... build a locomotive! What you could do is to make a pedal-powered loco, where you pedal to get the thing to move - take bits from a bicycle.

@roc31539 2 года назад

You are a Genius Master Craftsman ! Thank You

@springwoodcottage4248 3 года назад

Vinegar will take off galvanising, submerge in & leave over night. Still I burned a hole last week in my jeans that would take 3x1 Euro coins, while welding mild steel with no coating, red hot metal in my jean turn up and just far enough from my leg that I didn't realise I was on fire & I didn't see the smoke through my helmet. Thanks for sharing!

@qpeciarz1902 3 года назад

You are genius ! Easy methods , cheap tools and, most importantly - working brain !

@notapplicable430 3 года назад

I've been working on the railroad...all the live long day. I've been working on the railroad...just to pass the time away!

@WilliamAlanPhoto 3 года назад

RR Tim is progressing wonderfully!

@shtetc 3 года назад

Looking forward to the next episode! Good luck!

@Ellnebo 3 года назад

if you have a sufficiently large metal lathe you can turn wheels in it and have the tread be conical. This will reduse Flange contact and in the long run reduce maintenance.

@the_retag 3 года назад

Railway wheels are usually also shaped like a section of cone, so they self-center on the rails and you get less grind with the flanges Shape like this

@nidgeoldham8966 3 года назад

Maybe try using car brake discs ?

@kevincoogan3518 3 года назад

Brilliant ! Just shows how much can be done with so little.

@Geeraffe 3 года назад

wonderful compelling viewing - the branch line would make the fat controller very jealous

@dws2313 3 года назад

Amazing! Especially forming the flange.

@krissfemmpaws1029 3 года назад

There is an old limestone quarry near my home, a while back I looked at couple of the ore carts and their wheels. There was a flange that mounted to the axle and the wheels bolted to it like a car wheel. I couldn't tell if the wheels were pressed or spun into shape.

@timjw5704 3 года назад

Great video Tim. Good to see the whole process from problem to solution, although I've always found my original solution needs development

@christopherbraiden6713 3 года назад

Thanks for the video, you are a very ingenious person learning more from you as I want to build my own G scale railway wagons!!😎🐓🐓🇬🇧

@ronmartinmhg2804 3 года назад

Great stuff, Tim. Why did my schoolboy song 'Riding down from Bangor.' start to play on my mind. I can't wait for you to get your bearings. Sometimes I have problems finding mine;-) Keep them coming.

@stewartalbert3523 3 года назад

BEARINGS , some old farm machinery used hardwood liberally greased for slow speed fairly heavy loads .

@murmenaattori6 Месяц назад

Used drum brake rotors can be utilized very well for this by welding up a larger edge. Especially ones with combined disc and drum brakes, you can use a lathe to cut out excess material from the disc edge.

@jerrydempsey3490 3 года назад

You are a truly clever man. Your ideas incredible. Thanks for a fun video.

@SamDru 3 года назад

Your the first person who told me that galvanized welding fumes are poisonous 😕😕😕 Thanks 😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

@yeagerxp 3 года назад

Awesome 👍👍👍Thanks for sharing. Happy Easter and stay safe

@myoldreteacher 3 года назад

This is incredible. I love this video series.

@liefdegator1 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing. it is fun seeing you create this

@richbuilds_com 3 года назад

You have a fantastic story telling voice mate. It's only just occurred to me that you sound like / have the same accent as a lot of the narrators of kids shows in the 70's I grew up listening to.

@samvalentine3206 3 года назад

He does have a wonderful story-telling voice, doesn't he? Sandra too! Years ago I told him the same thing that I thought they could make a fortune on narrating books! Now wouldn't that be a way to bring in the euros to pay for the toys, Mr. Tim?

@gibbosj08 3 года назад

i was wonering how you would overcome the sharp turn in the point section this is simple but very effective wider wheels and a nice steep wheel flange brilliant video cant wait for the next 👍

@James02876 3 года назад

Scrap brake drums come to mind as wheel candidates, depending on what's available near you. Nice diy wheel design

@thornwarbler 3 года назад

Those wheels are great. Would a greased hardwood bearing block suffice, bear in mind thats what were used on slipways to launch ships. They would be cheap and easily made with what you had at hand ..............just a thought 😉

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

watch this space!

@jccooluser 3 года назад

That is just amazing , to just build something worth hundreds in a few hours

@calvinthedestroyer 3 года назад

The wheels look great.

@kieran.stafford 3 года назад

Impressive Tim. BTW I hereby volunteer to come and tidy up your workshop:) My OCD can't bear it much longer :)

@samvalentine3206 3 года назад

We'll get together as a team to make it a group effort!

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Ha! thanks, guys. I'll try to do better (but there's never any time for tidying!)

@bill45colt Год назад

greaaaatly impressed with your wheels!!

@benrodir2 3 года назад

I love this channel so much.

@bluelilly22222 3 года назад

You are an brilliant person.👌👍

@Santafefrank 3 года назад

Looking good Tim

@pamelacourtney8998 3 года назад

Definitely hypnotic. Blessings to all ⚘

@ratchet1freak 3 года назад

the taper on the tread is there to center the axle on the rails, if the axle is off center it means the outside wheel has a larger circumference and because the wheels are locked together it means it will travel further and recenter. it also means there is less wear on the rails from grinding off the flanges.

@boswell255 3 года назад

I think you might be underestimating the role of the taper in keeping the wheels on the track. It acts as a self correcting mechanism - if the wheels drift to one side, the radius of the section of the wheel in contact with the rail becomes larger, while the opposite radius becomes smaller. As a result, one wheel turns slower and the other faster causing the axel to correct. This design handles corners perfectly too, as the whole assembly slides out to the outer radius of the corner so that the inner wheel is turning faster (picture a bolt rolling around on a workbench.) It works even without flanges. The flanges are a failsafe more than anything else and make very little contact with the rails (train journeys would be a much screechier affair if they did.) An easier way to think about it is to imagine two cones glued together at the base rolling down two suspended rails. Imagine how much farther they would get compared to a flat cylinder, sliding off at the slightest bump or bend. Train designers just cut out all the extra bits of cone they didn't need that might get in the way, but the principle is the same. If the wheels you've got are working fine it's no big deal, but I'd recommend at least doing some small scale experiments to see if you could improve on the design for future iterations.

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Thanks, Steve. Check out this one... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VG49XIr_T4Y.html

@boswell255 3 года назад

@@WayOutWestx2 Well don't I look silly now. That's exactly sort the video I had in mind that you'd make detailing your experiments though. If only my amazing powers of prediction could be made to work forwards in time!

@doct0rnic 3 года назад

After watching this series, I was trying to figure out how to make wheels, one way I though was similar to wagon wheels, making a wood wheel possibly with spokes with a steel tread that is heated and shrunk around the wood.

@safiaihsan284 3 года назад

I always enjoy your vlogs

@loam6740 3 года назад

Can't wait to see you riding down the rails on a pump car one day!

@AJWGBFX 3 года назад

Sorry, rude of me, l meant to add what a wonderful series this is - still very jealous - railway, welding, lots of hammering etc

@tom_tom_go 3 года назад

This is all very narrow gauge, I love it!

@thomaslindstrom3673 3 года назад

Beeing the chairman of a Swedish museumrailroad it is booth intressting and funny to watch Your railroad projekt. Keep the good work up! 👍😀

@WayOutWestx2 3 года назад

Thanks, will do!

@777brucekim777 3 года назад

I was watching a video recently how train wheels go around corners. The wheels are not flat but have a gentle slope. The video is on RU-vid.

@normanboyes4983 2 года назад

Absolutely brilliant.😀👍

@peterjensen1229 3 года назад

I know what you’re doing Tim. These wheels look exactly like the Lamborghini Diablo wheels. Nice!

@vrbszk 3 года назад

video was great as always😍 by the way, usually they do conic treads to reduce sliding friction in curves (I don't think your wheels will cause any troubles, just wanted to mention)

@donwright3427 3 года назад

Old propane cylinders may yield sime usable material for wheels I would think.

@andymanaus1077 3 года назад

I've cut them open for various projects and have to report that the metal isn't nearly as thick as I thought it would be. Old domestic cylinders only have wall thicknesses of about 1.2mm. On the other hand, industrial gas cylinders have much thicker walls, up to 10mm in my experience, but are very difficult to come by and generally only come in diameters of 20cm or less. Note to anyone thinking of cutting open old gas cylinders: They MUST be thoroughly degassed and filled with water to disburse any remaining fumes before putting a cutting tool anywhere near them. They MUST have their valve assemblies removed in order to prevent any chance of explosion, even after degassing (steam explosions can be just as dangerous as gas explosions).

@grahams5871 3 года назад

I hope you try conical treads instead of the cylindrical treads you have there. I think it will keep the flanges away from the rails and will make going around curves a lot smoother because it will allow the outer wheel to ride up to the wide part and speed up. With cylindrical wheels , your flanges will be scraping against the track all the way around the curve.